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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by babytoun: 5:09pm On Jun 30, 2020
BlueAngel444:
let Lampard just have his Chilwell, if he still wants to start Alonso that's his choice. At least the excuse of being that our lb is slow to track back will reduce. There are very few exceptional LBs in the world all of them have their own wahala

Ok...So if he is only marginally better defensively ,why spend that much money on him? The way ismaila sarr and Mahrez dealt with him killed my interest . If Telles can be signed for half that price why not explore that

On this conversion of Declan Rice to CB i hope its just press talk ...because that will be too much of a risk ..

.besides what is lampard going to do with Ampadu whose defensive intelligence is better that most of the guys we have now
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 5:22pm On Jun 30, 2020
babytoun:


Ok...So if he is only marginally better defensively ,why spend that much money on him? The way ismaila sarr and Mahrez dealt with him killed my interest . If Telles can be signed for half that price why not explore that

On this conversion of Declan Rice to CB i hope its just press talk ...because that will be too much of a risk ..

.besides what is lampard going to do with Ampadu whose defensive intelligence is better that most of the guys we have now

About Ampadu, except we start using 3 at the back. Why spend that much on him, well Madrid and City bought both their mendy are about 50m and 58m respectively. I don't see how a young LB would be sold for less from a team Leicester.

For Alex Telles, that was the lb I preferred but read he is heading to PSG for 25m

About Rice, he did his youth football with Chelsea so some of the staff know if he is good enough to play CB apart from watching his game over the years. Besides it's not the first time a midfielder converts to CB and does well
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:23pm On Jun 30, 2020
BlueAngel444:


Chelsea will likely get Chilwell for 50m+ because he is 4yrs younger, if not then maybe Tagliafico, they must be considering what the point of spending 25m on a playing then in 4years time spend more on trying to get another LB that is if Tagliafico is able to adjust properly to EPL and perform for those years.


As for a CB, Using Rudiger and Christensen as a first choice could get better. Seeing as Chelsea won't buy Koulibaly for 60m+ because he getting close to 30 has some point but if Rice can play CB then buying him would be cheaper and better.

Both of them as well as Upamenaco and even Tomori are of similar height, as long as Rice is good in the air we should get him. we either keep Zouma as a bench player he is now or sell him and buy a CB.

Buying Havertz!? Lampard has said they ain't moving for him. I believe the reason Chelsea gave Giroud a year extra is because Werner will play mainly from the left wing, while Giroud and Abraham will play CF.

whether Chelsea uses a 4-3-3 or a 4-3-2-1 if contains a DM, a CM, an AM, a right attacker, a left attacker and a striker.

If Lampard mainly uses Kante as a DM, and could use Jorginho, chelsea refused to sell, for teams that sit back to defend. Kovacic, Barkley, Gilmour, RLC could play CM. Barkley and RLC are squad players

Lampard will likely play Mount as an AM or better still either Ziyech plays it or Pulisic

Kepa; Cesar, Rudiger, Andreas, Ben; Kovacic, Kante, Ziyech, Pulisic, Werner, Abraham

with Ziyech as creativity plus Kovacic (or mount, Barkley, RLC), then Pulisic and Werner running the flanks forward, cutting the lines and all.

Who would you bench to guarantee Havertz starts!?
You made good points except Havertz is not a winger, he is AMF/false 9 at best. He will easily bench loftus cheek and Barkley who are CAM/AMF like him. Mount has work rate, he is a utility player too. But in all, Havertz will bring a lot to the team, his splitting passes and eye for goal as AMF is what we need so that Kante and Kova can play their CDM and CM effectively without thinking of moving the ball that much to connect with the attackers, Havertz will be responsible for that. Zyech is a dribbler so playing him as AMF/CAM will be too risky, he should play RWF.

Lastly, if CFC sign Havertz they will definitely sell one or two midfielders to create space. We need quality not quantity if we want to really compete for Epl title next season.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by babytoun: 5:37pm On Jun 30, 2020
hensben:
You made good points except Havertz is not a winger, he is AMF/false 9 at best. He will easily bench loftus cheek and Barkley who are CAM/AMF like him. Mount has work rate, he is a utility player too. But in all, Havertz will bring a lot to the team, his splitting passes and eye for goal as AMF is what we need so that Kante and Kova can play their CDM and CM effectively without thinking of moving the ball that much to connect with the attackers, Havertz will be responsible for that. Zyech is a dribbler so playing him as AMF/CAM will be too risky, he should play RWF.

Lastly, if CFC sign Havertz they will definitely sell one or two midfielders to create space. We need quality not quantity if we want to really compete for Epl title next season.

when you compete on 4 fronts you need quality and quantity in a way
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 6:12pm On Jun 30, 2020
airmark:


Going going Man united. grin
cheesy This place go burn down after the fourth win.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 6:13pm On Jun 30, 2020
It is only Lampard who knows what he sees in Chilwell. undecided
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 6:16pm On Jun 30, 2020
hensben:
You made good points except Havertz is not a winger, he is AMF/false 9 at best. He will easily bench loftus cheek and Barkley who are CAM/AMF like him. Mount has work rate, he is a utility player too. But in all, Havertz will bring a lot to the team, his splitting passes and eye for goal as AMF is what we need so that Kante and Kova can play their CDM and CM effectively without thinking of moving the ball that much to connect with the attackers, Havertz will be responsible for that. Zyech is a dribbler so playing him as AMF/CAM will be too risky, he should play RWF.

Lastly, if CFC sign Havertz they will definitely sell one or two midfielders to create space. We need quality not quantity if we want to really compete for Epl title next season.
I like Havertz, the clips of him I have seen and on game console. Havertz dribbles as well but maybe more direct than Ziyech or even kovacic in midfield. Well let Chelsea sign him first
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick9(m): 6:21pm On Jun 30, 2020
announcement Leroy Sané: the Transfer to @fcbayern is done! @BILD_Sport
Price £15m + Boateng.

St Pep working wonders again in the transfer market...
Lol

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:26pm On Jun 30, 2020
kendrick9:
announcement Leroy Sané: the Transfer to @fcbayern is done! @BILD_Sport
Price £15m + Boateng.

St Pep working his wonders again in the transfer market...
Lol

Red flag, Fraudiola won't be that stupid. grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Thecassanova: 6:28pm On Jun 30, 2020
hensben:
You made good points except Havertz is not a winger, he is AMF/false 9 at best. He will easily bench loftus cheek and Barkley who are CAM/AMF like him. Mount has work rate, he is a utility player too. But in all, Havertz will bring a lot to the team, his splitting passes and eye for goal as AMF is what we need so that Kante and Kova can play their CDM and CM effectively without thinking of moving the ball that much to connect with the attackers, Havertz will be responsible for that. Zyech is a dribbler so playing him as AMF/CAM will be too risky, he should play RWF.

Lastly, if CFC sign Havertz they will definitely sell one or two midfielders to create space. We need quality not quantity if we want to really compete for Epl title next season.
I think Lamps likes 2 AM (two 8’s) now. Kante at DM flanked by two 8’s that can keep us in attack & also sit deep to defend. See for example against city, Mount & Barkley didn’t expose Kante & were good offensively too. If we get Havertz, he will play as one of the 8s. Two attacking 8s may be the future like PEP or 05 Mou. If so where does Kovacic play?

We’ve used 2 AM’s (Mount & Barkley) to win twice; against relegation threatened Villa, & pack the bus with a city side. I think it will work.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:29pm On Jun 30, 2020
Glad Pulisic is coming out of his shell to boost our chances of clinching a top 4 spot.

Havertz seems a cool choice for Chelsea to put up a strong fight for the EPL title next season and also perform well in Europe.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by eph12(m): 6:30pm On Jun 30, 2020
airmark:


Red flag, Fraudiola won't be that stupid. grin

Fraudiola is desperate right now
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:35pm On Jun 30, 2020
Ighalo presented a welcome gift to DJ Cuppy, who just joined the scummies.

Would be a big shame if she's given a baptism of fire should Man Utd suffer a defeat in tonight's game against Brighton.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:36pm On Jun 30, 2020
Roland17 I have news on the Leroy Sane front

I remember telling folks here that Bayern will sign Sane for around 50M and they were swearing and all

Now go check Fabrizio Romano twitter feed

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:37pm On Jun 30, 2020
Thecassanova:

I think Lamps likes 2 AM (two 8’s) now. Kante at DM flanked by two 8’s that can keep us in attack & also sit deep to defend. See for example against city, Mount & Barkley didn’t expose Kante & were good offensively too. If we get Havertz, he will play as one of the 8s. Two attacking 8s may be the future like PEP or 05 Mou. If so where does Kovacic play?
Kovacic will play CM while Kante CDM in 4231 formation. Havertz will play as AMF or SS to Warner. Kovacic will support Kante in tackling while also driving the ball half way for Havertz, Pulisic or Zyech to take it upfront. Lampard want to have more creativity and goals upfront so do every CFC fan out there. Our goal return this season have been poor so far.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:37pm On Jun 30, 2020
eph12:

Fraudiola is desperate right now

I will be happy if he mistakenly brings Boathand to epl. cheesy

gensteejay:
Ighalo presented a welcome gift to his ex, DJ Cuppy, who just joined the scummies.

Would be a big shame if she's given a baptism of fire should Man Utd suffer a defeat in tonight's game against Brighton.

Anichebe's ex, not Ighalo's.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:39pm On Jun 30, 2020
airmark:




Anichebe's ex, not Ighalo's.
Thanks for the correction.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by seankafor(m): 6:40pm On Jun 30, 2020
gensteejay:
Ighalo presented a welcome gift to DJ Cuppy, who just joined the scummies.

Would be a big shame if she's given a baptism of fire should Man Utd suffer a defeat in tonight's game against Brighton.
is cuppy ighalo ex?

Then he must be probably knacking her on tha other room..

And I learnt he is divorced his wife or they having some internal marital issues
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:41pm On Jun 30, 2020
seankafor:
is cuppy ighalo ex?

Then he must be probably knocking her on tha other room..

And I learnt he is divorced his wife or they having some internal marital issues
I made a mistake. I meant to say Victor Anichebe's ex.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by seankafor(m): 6:42pm On Jun 30, 2020
airmark:


I will be happy if he mistakenly brings Boathand to epl. cheesy



Anichebe's ex, not Ighalo's.
okay..this cuppy too dey do busy body for celebs..

Before it was Anthony Joshua.. now ighalo..

What does she want undecided
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:42pm On Jun 30, 2020
BlueAngel444:
I like Havertz, the clips of him I have seen and on game console. Havertz dribbles as well but maybe more direct than Ziyech or even kovacic in midfield. Well let Chelsea sign him first
Yeah he dribbles only when it is necessary unlike Zyech who intentionally want to beat his opponent before making a cross which is a proper winger trait and it’s good. Havertz is like Ozil of Real Madrid, they give splitting passes and are very clever with the ball.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:45pm On Jun 30, 2020
babytoun:


when you compete on 4 fronts you need quality and quantity in a way
Yes but your starting eleven should be majorly quality with little quantity.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:48pm On Jun 30, 2020
Godx:

Hazard was in the same position as Leroy and went for about 100million. Man city won't sell him for anything less than their initial asking price. 60million for a player of Leroy quality is a joke.

Godx:

City already told them to F.uck off
Swissh:
It makes sense to keep him for another season if Bayern don’t match his valuation or get close to it. It shows the club is strong and will get another season with him. Their current valuation is about 70million which is even reasonable.

Bayern don’t seem to value Leroy too much with such derisory offers.

Godx:

Man City don't need Bayern money. They value one more season of Leroy than the rubbish offer Bayern are offering. It's a perfect F.uck you to Bayern and I love it.

When I told you about Sane some weeks ago

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:49pm On Jun 30, 2020
raumdeuter:


They dont know Bayern has the strong hand in this deal

1. Sane has 1 year left on his contract
2. Sane has been injured for the past 9months and many clubs might be iffy on gambling on him returning to full fitness
3. Pep for some reason doesn't see him as a sure starter which Bayern promised him
4. Covid has ruined the income of many clubs so prices will crash
5. City is under FFP scrutiny and have to sell before they can buy also have to balance their wages
6. City might be banned from football for 2yrs and their players won't play CL for 2yrs, Players like KdB already said he is open to leaving
7. City won't want to sell Sane to a local rival
8. Sane is German and for National team interest would be protected at Bayern

Bayern made the move and deposited 40M, its left to City to return the money. Its like the strategy you use for Ibo sellers, give them money and see if they will return it. In many cases they will want to hold the money and just tell you to add small

Dont be shocked to see Bayern adding another 10M making 50 and the others will be in add ons. Roland17 would be happy

Remember someone told you this

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:51pm On Jun 30, 2020
Expert17:
They don't spend anyhow is different from stingy......
Man city will decide to take 40-50m for Sane or watch him leave for free..
Aaron Ramsey left arsenal for free, a player that shud hv fetched arsenal like 50m, ... The same arsenal can't pay Nicolas Pepe's 72m fee once.

They did the smart thing
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kendrick9(m): 6:53pm On Jun 30, 2020
raumdeuter:







When I told you about Sane some weeks ago
Bayern got lucky Sane got an injury
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by seankafor(m): 7:12pm On Jun 30, 2020
Hehehehe.. grin cheesy

Maybe I can now walk freely on my streets grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 7:17pm On Jun 30, 2020
raumdeuter:
Roland17 I have news on the Leroy Sane front

I remember telling folks here that Bayern will sign Sane for around 50M and they were swearing and all

Now go check Fabrizio Romano twitter feed

I remember you were adamant about his price post-surgery. I am just happy the nightmare is over for the kid. He needs to buckle down now and prove his worth. He is definitely at the top of the pecking order looking at Bayern's roster.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:25pm On Jun 30, 2020
Roland17:


I remember you were adamant about his price post-surgery. I am just happy the nightmare is over for the kid. He needs to buckle down now and prove his worth. He is definitely at the top of the pecking order looking at Bayern's roster.

Barring injury he locks down the left wing immediately. Though on paper its Coman Gnabry and Sane for the wings but I expect an injury free Sane to lock down one side and Gnabry to get the other

Pep probably wont use him anymore this season and Sane sef should avoid any useless thing wey go cause injury, even contact in training should be avoided

He needs to report to Munich ASAP to start his training, There is a season ahead of us and Euro 2021 where he can make a push for his shirt

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/jun/30/bayern-munich-strike-deal-to-sign-leroy-sane-from-manchester-city-for-41m?CMP=share_btn_tw
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:29pm On Jun 30, 2020
Godx:


40m being their opening offer? lol If Sancho is going for 100million, Leroy should be nothing less than that if not more. Bayern are trolling.

Are we trolling?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:33pm On Jun 30, 2020
hensben:
Yeah he dribbles only when it is necessary unlike Zyech who intentionally want to beat his opponent before making a cross which is a proper winger trait and it’s good. Havertz is like Ozil of Real Madrid, they give splitting passes and are very clever with the ball.
Don't forget Pulisic could also play CAM, use both feet, drift to the left or right and play passes like that. I prefer him on the wings because of his speed but he is also very direct. 1 key difference is his aerial ability.

Maybe Lampard tries to use two forwards and plays Havertz as a RF with Timo as a LF. Not sure Havertz plays in a midfield three or drop deep like how Barkley, RLC or Mount can.

Well let's see what happens, if the 70m+ bid is accepted and see where and how he will play.

Lampard wanted more creativity they got him Ziyech, he wanted more goals having lost Hazard, Timo Werner was signed. Chelsea's focus should be on CB and LB, and give him the Ben Chilwell and Rice he wants, if he wants to even keep Drinkwater he should ahead as long as don't go back to bakayoko
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:36pm On Jun 30, 2020
Belotti Relapsti has scored (another penalty)

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