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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 7:40pm On Jun 30, 2020
babytoun:


Ok...So if he is only marginally better defensively ,why spend that much money on him? The way ismaila sarr and Mahrez dealt with him killed my interest . If Telles can be signed for half that price why not explore that

On this conversion of Declan Rice to CB i hope its just press talk ...because that will be too much of a risk ..

.besides what is lampard going to do with Ampadu whose defensive intelligence is better that most of the guys we have now

I really wanna see Ethan Ampadu, Marc Guehi and Ian Maatsen break into the team.

I wish Maatsen can just blow the way Lamptey did..too bad Lamptey was a RB, and we already have James
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 7:44pm On Jun 30, 2020
hensben:
Kovacic will play CM while Kante CDM in 4231 formation. Havertz will play as AMF or SS to Warner. Kovacic will support Kante in tackling while also driving the ball half way for Havertz, Pulisic or Zyech to take it upfront. Lampard want to have more creativity and goals upfront so do every CFC fan out there. Our goal return this season have been poor so far.
So we can agree 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are Lamps' preferred formations.

But let's not forget one thing: we might be seeing a two - striker formation next season with Tammy and Timo, I think Lampard hinted on that.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Inerepamo(m): 7:46pm On Jun 30, 2020
BlueMann:

So we can agree 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are Lamps' preferred formations.

But let's not forget one thing: we might be seeing a two - striker formation next season with Tammy and Timo, I think Lampard hinted on that.

what will then happen to jorginho you guys are doing as if he does not exist jorginho is a good miedfielder
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 7:48pm On Jun 30, 2020
BlueAngel444:
Don't forget Pulisic could also play CAM, use both feet, drift to the left or right and play passes like that. I prefer him on the wings because of his speed but he is also very direct. 1 key difference is his aerial ability.

Maybe Lampard tries to use two forwards and plays Havertz as a RF with Timo as a LF. Not sure Havertz plays in a midfield three or drop deep like how Barkley, RLC or Mount can.

Well let's see what happens, if the 70m+ bid is accepted and see where and how he will play.

Lampard wanted more creativity they got him Ziyech, he wanted more goals having lost Hazard, Timo Werner was signed. Chelsea's focus should be on CB and LB, and give him the Ben Chilwell and Rice he wants, if he wants to even keep Drinkwater he should ahead as long as don't go back to bakayoko
No need to try Pulisic in AMF seeing that he is still young and need to master that LWF perfectly. It’s not bad to have two creative player as it will confuse opponent more. Havertz can score with his head too, he is dangerous in set piece.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:48pm On Jun 30, 2020
Thecassanova:

I think Lamps likes 2 AM (two 8’s) now. Kante at DM flanked by two 8’s that can keep us in attack & also sit deep to defend. See for example against city, Mount & Barkley didn’t expose Kante & were good offensively too. If we get Havertz, he will play as one of the 8s. Two attacking 8s may be the future like PEP or 05 Mou. If so where does Kovacic play?

We’ve used 2 AM’s (Mount & Barkley) to win twice; against relegation threatened Villa, & pack the bus with a city side. I think it will work.
Does Havertz track back?, he seems more like a forward player than what Mount and Barkley play.

Ok you ask where does Kovacic play? It seems signing Havertz may not favor some things, signing him at 70m+ which would be record signing for Chelsea and with his salary even won't just sit on the bench.

Jorginho could have been sold for at least 65m, so will he and Kovacic stay on the bench or what of Mount even if Chelsea sell Barkley and loan out RLC players who may even get better but maybe signing Havertz might work.

It's funny, watching Havertz highlights and those of Barkley at Everton and RLC last season they are just as talented, it's just form, consistency and synergy with team mates. The defensive aspect of Havertz game should be considered if it's 8 he will play.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:52pm On Jun 30, 2020
Inerepamo:


what will then happen to jorginho you guys are doing as if he does not exist jorginho is a good miedfielder
are you minding them, he started very well this season. His defense his passes, It like they only remember the few bad games he had. I'm sure about Gilmour's last match most ain't shouting Gilmour like before.

At a time most were shouting start Emerson, start Emerson fans eh cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:56pm On Jun 30, 2020
hensben:
Kovacic will play CM while Kante CDM in 4231 formation. Havertz will play as AMF or SS to Warner. Kovacic will support Kante in tackling while also driving the ball half way for Havertz, Pulisic or Zyech to take it upfront. Lampard want to have more creativity and goals upfront so do every CFC fan out there. Our goal return this season have been poor so far.
and you left out Abraham, let it shock up when Werner doesn't play CF or his goal output is just 15goals.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Inerepamo(m): 8:01pm On Jun 30, 2020
BlueAngel444:
are you minding them, he started very well this season. His defense his passes, It like they only remember the few bad games he had. I'm sure about Gilmour's last match most ain't shouting Gilmour like before.

At a time most were shouting start Emerson, start Emerson fans eh cheesy

they just seem to forget jorginho has been the one controling chelsea position in the miedfild the last 3 matches chelsea played really awful but we one we were even luck leicester were missing their chances if not that match would have been 3-0 by half time
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 8:06pm On Jun 30, 2020
BlueMann:


On a more serious note, you've got a point sir.

But at least he got an assist so let's let him rest small

He is playing way below his abilities every time so needs to be called out as not to get carried away by the ordinary performance he pull out there
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:07pm On Jun 30, 2020
Inerepamo:


they just seem to forget jorginho has been the one controling chelsea position in the miedfild the last 3 matches chelsea played really awful but we one we were even luck leicester were missing their chances if not that match would have been 3-0 by half time
I think the lengthy period of matches he plays affects him. If not for his performances while Kante was injured and out of form out midfield would have been horrible and I don't think Kovacic would have improved the much he did. Probably the reason was Jorginho's leadership and why Lamps made him vice captain and refuse to sell him to Juve
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:09pm On Jun 30, 2020
Here's the report forget the nonsense Dago says

Manchester City have agreed to sell winger Leroy Sane to Bayern Munich.

The Germany international will join the Bundesliga champions for an initial fee of about £44.7m in a deal that could rise to £54.8m.

Reasons for the low fee

City have also negotiated a 10% sell-on clause, with the fee representing their largest ever outgoing transfer deal.

It is also understood City were unwilling to get close to the estimated £20m annual salary Sane will receive from Bayern.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Inerepamo(m): 8:10pm On Jun 30, 2020
BlueAngel444:
I think the lengthy period of matches he plays affects him. If not for his performances while Kante was injured and out of form out midfield would have been horrible and I don't think Kovacic would have improved the much he did. Probably the reason was Jorginho's leadership and why Lamps made him vice captain and refuse to sell him to Juve

yeah you're right also agree just hope he proves them wrong
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Thecassanova: 8:11pm On Jun 30, 2020
hensben:
Kovacic will play CM while Kante CDM in 4231 formation. Havertz will play as AMF or SS to Warner. Kovacic will support Kante in tackling while also driving the ball half way for Havertz, Pulisic or Zyech to take it upfront. Lampard want to have more creativity and goals upfront so do every CFC fan out there. Our goal return this season have been poor so far.
IMO, Only few games we use a 4231, it’s a waste using Kovacic & Kante at that 2 when Kante wouldn’t not a b2b. Kante is enough in DM, We should look forward to killing our opponents off with wider goal margin. So to put attack minded players on deck, We will mostly use a 4-3-3 with 2 AM’s.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 9:01pm On Jun 30, 2020
Thecassanova:

IMO, Only few games we use a 4231, it’s a waste using Kovacic & Kante at that 2 when Kante wouldn’t not a b2b. Kante is enough in DM, We should look forward to killing our opponents off with wider goal margin. So to put attack minded players on deck, We will mostly use a 4-3-3 with 2 AM’s.
If we sign Havertz Lampard will use 4231 formation more. We are playing 2 AMs because our attacking players are not productive enough in terms of assist and goals. With Zyech, Havertz and Warner we will have more return in attack while Kova and Kante do their job. Mostly against big teams these two need to start.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 9:03pm On Jun 30, 2020
BlueAngel444:
and you left out Abraham, let it shock up when Werner doesn't play CF or his goal output is just 15goals.
If Warner click Abraham is sub at best, he can’t even time his run always offside.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 9:04pm On Jun 30, 2020
BlueMann:

So we can agree 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 are Lamps' preferred formations.

But let's not forget one thing: we might be seeing a two - striker formation next season with Tammy and Timo, I think Lampard hinted on that.
Yeah two strikers is possible in some games.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 9:05pm On Jun 30, 2020
Inerepamo:


what will then happen to jorginho you guys are doing as if he does not exist jorginho is a good miedfielder
Jorgunho will play las las
Between now and the end of next season, the fixtures will be very congested.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Herbiedeen(m): 9:11pm On Jun 30, 2020
Name one player from each club to create a XI
1) REAL MADRID
2) BARCELONA
3) ATHLETICO MADRID
4) LIVERPOOL
5) MANCHESTER CITY
6) CHELSEA
7) MANCHESTER UNITED
cool TOTTENHAM
9) BAYERN MUNICH
10) BORUSSIA DORTMUND
11) JUVENTUS
for fun
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 9:16pm On Jun 30, 2020
Costa has bleeped up three times now
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by seankafor(m): 9:20pm On Jun 30, 2020
Wait.. I think say this line pk rule has been scrapped

Many goalkeepers flout that shiit angry
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 9:21pm On Jun 30, 2020
The way Barca go suffer when Messi finally leaves ehn...... shocked
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Thecassanova: 9:34pm On Jun 30, 2020
hensben:
If we sign Havertz Lampard will use 4231 formation more. We are playing 2 AMs because our attacking players are not productive enough in terms of assist and goals. With Zyech, Havertz and Warner we will have more return in attack while Kova and Kante do their job. Mostly against big teams these two need to start.
Again we don’t need Kante-Kovacic in that 2 in 4231. Only Kante will do. For example, city attack is productive enough in g+a & use 4231, but 1 of the 2 is attack minded while the other is defending. Kovacic can’t offer us great attack. Even Utd lineup today have Matic (defend) & Pogba (attack) in the ‘2’ midfield. Unless you say Kante will play b2b, but we can’t trust Kovacic in that position to shield the CBs. When Kante was in midfield 2 with Drinkwater & Matic at Lei & Che, he was more of a b2b.

Compare the pictures below, If we use Kante-Kovacic in the 2’ can it boost more progressive football play? Cos I want to see us dominate next season & not keep recycling back-side passes like the times we were using Kovacic-Jorginho-Kante against relegation teams. Though I do agree with you against big teams.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 9:57pm On Jun 30, 2020
BlueRayDick:
The way Barca go suffer when Messi finally leaves ehn...... shocked
LA liga will be open and competitive cheesy Madrid and ATM will win like 2 each before they smell it again
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 10:00pm On Jun 30, 2020
Herbiedeen:
Name one player from each club to create a XI
1) REAL MADRID
2) BARCELONA
3) ATHLETICO MADRID
4) LIVERPOOL
5) MANCHESTER CITY
6) CHELSEA
7) MANCHESTER UNITED
cool TOTTENHAM
9) BAYERN MUNICH
10) BORUSSIA DORTMUND
11) JUVENTUS
for fun
Oblak

S. Ramos VVD Alaba

Kante

Pogba Sancho


Messi


P. Dybala H.Kane R.Sterling


Formation=3-1-2-1-3
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 10:07pm On Jun 30, 2020
Herbiedeen:
Name one player from each club to create a XI
1) REAL MADRID
2) BARCELONA
3) ATHLETICO MADRID
4) LIVERPOOL
5) MANCHESTER CITY
6) CHELSEA
7) MANCHESTER UNITED
cool TOTTENHAM
9) BAYERN MUNICH
10) BORUSSIA DORTMUND
11) JUVENTUS
for fun
1. Ramos CB
2. Messi RW
3. Oblak GK
4. VVD CB
5. KDB CM
6. Kante CDM
7. Bruno CAM
8. Kane CF
9. Davies LB
10. Hakimi RB
11. Ronaldo LW
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 10:12pm On Jun 30, 2020
Messi gets his 700th goal with a Penaka cool
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 10:14pm On Jun 30, 2020
BlueAngel444:
LA liga will be open and competitive cheesy Madrid and ATM will win like 2 each before they smell it again

Athletico don't like they will do something like that.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 10:18pm On Jun 30, 2020
That Costa's goal for Juve tonight is far better than Dybala and Ronaldo's goals and those goals were crazy

Juve 3- genao 0
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 10:19pm On Jun 30, 2020
BlueRayDick:
Messi gets his 700th goal with a Penaka cool
nonsense PK
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 10:21pm On Jun 30, 2020
BlueAngel444:
That Costa's goal for Juve tonight is far better than Dybala and Ronaldo's goals and those goals were crazy

Juve 3- genao 0
now genao score a beauty my gosh
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 10:24pm On Jun 30, 2020
BlueAngel444:
1. Ramos CB 2. Messi RW 3. Oblak GK 4. VVD CB 5. KDB CM 6. Kante CDM 7. Bruno CAM 8. Kane CF 9. Davies LB 10. Hakimi RB 11. Ronaldo LW
Hakimi>Inter Milan
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 10:26pm On Jun 30, 2020
BlueAngel444:
nonsense PK

It doesn't change the fact he scored a nice goal to get his 700th

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