Rozz:
both parties have proven to be right, how do we know the real truth

The truth will speak with one mind as in the same definition not contradicting opinions.

According to DrLiveLogic's analogy TRINITY means Jesus and Jehovah is the same person.

According to Solite3's analogy, TRINITY doesn't mean Jesus and Jehovah are the same person.

Yet the both of them wants JWs to agree that they're saying the truth!

Rozz:
Both have Bible quotes supporting their claims

They presented their own interpretations and opinions of those Bible scriptures!
Mind you, the Bible is not just some generic book. The truth found in it is ABSOLUTE
Different opinions do not matter as regards to the Bible. Since it can only mean one thing.

Rozz:
Both have Bible quotes supporting their claims

I've told you the simple way to send the spirit of falsehood into the abyss.

©Ask which Church do you belong?
This question is the most challenging because if you're not worshiping the true God, there is no way you can boldy say it in the public, you'll rather like to hide under a common worldly concept that's approved by the world.

©Ask how their God is benefitting it's adherents. Jesus said "by their FRUIT you will know them" {Matthew 7:20} so in the midst of those worshiping the true God, the spirit of God will be active,qualities like LOVE,JOY,PEACE,PATIENCE GOODNESS, GENTLENESS,FAITH MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL will be evident in their gathering. Galatians 5:22-23

But if you're waiting for arguments and quotations each person will be quoting as long as you can't decipher the correct application of the quoted texts!

Maximus69:


The truth will speak with one mind as in the same definition not contradicting opinions.

According to DrLiveLogic's analogy TRINITY means Jesus and Jehovah is the same person.

According to Solite3's analogy, TRINITY doesn't mean Jesus and Jehovah are the same person.

Yet the both of them wants JWs to agree that they're saying the truth!

If the so-called trinitarians can't even agree on their subject of trinity, why should people even be listening to them?

Rozz:
lie lie john47 are you tired

lie lie rozz, laugh, u poor duh, there in no one as unintelligent as you

DappaD:

Thank you, only Jehovah bears the suffix “El Shaddai” meaning “Almighty God” (Genesis 17:1, 28:3)
At Isaiah 9:6 the word translated “Mighty God” is “El Gibbor” and referred to Jesus Christ.

oh duh, Almighty and Mighty are diffrent words and so of course they are diffrent in hebrew as well
and by the way, YHWH is called EL Gibbor too:

Jer 32:18  Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God(el Gibbor), the LORD(YHWH) of hosts, is his name,

johnw47:

God is omnipresent

God has the power to see everywhere but because he is Holy his eyes are too pure to look at certain things that humans do to their fellowman {Habakkuk 1:13} that's why he had to send his angels to go and investigate thoroughly if the reports brought to him regarding Sodom and Gomorrah is true! Genesis 18:20-21

He sent out his active force to search for those whose hearts are pure and loyal to him {2Chronicles 16:9} so when Jesus said "where two or three are gathered in my name" it means he is present only in the midst of those doing his father's will not everywhere.

That's why we disagree with the omnipresence scam Sir!

DappaD:

Jehovah God has a dwelling place in the spiritual heavens (1Kings 8:34,43)
This teaching of Jehovah being omnipresent is found no where in either the Hebrew or Greek Scriptures!

There he goes again! He keeps on quoting scriptures that are saying the exact opposite of his trash doctrine

Philippians 2:5-6
Keep this mental attitude in you that was also in Christ Jesus who, although he was existing in God’s form, gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.

What is this God's form ? It simply means divine nature of a being
God is in the form of a Spirit (John 4:24) and no man has seen Him at anytime (Exodus 33:20, John 1:18, 6:46)
Jesus was of divine nature before he came to the earth. The Bible makes it clear on that! (Proverbs 8:22-31, Micah 5:2, John 3:13)
What Jesus meant in John 3:13 was that no righteous man had gone up to heaven before he came! Even King David his forefather was still in the Grave! Acts 2:29-35 . Faithful men and women of old are all in God's memory to be resurrected later on. But they're in the Grave and no where else.

For the latter part of Philippians 4:6:

“gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.”

What is meant here, is that although he was of divine nature, like the rest of the angels in heaven, he never gave consideration to the thought that he should in anyway be equal to God. Since Jesus himself acknowledges that God is higher than him (John 14:28)
Jesus when telling his disciples about the signs of his presence said that no one else apart from God knows when the time of the end would come, even Jesus himself does not know, yes he said it with his mouth(Matthew 24:36)

Like I said, you're just a hopeless “Bible scholar” who has no scriptural background. Continue quoting scriptures that don't align with your line of thought and keep showing how ignorant you are.

Exactly as I thought. I know you will all avoid my straightforward questions and begin to cherry-pick scriptures. Please give a unanimous answer to all and not just some, of the following questions otherwise your exclusive answers are your wrong interpretations. All must go together otherwise your answer is wrong.
I'm going to continue presenting these questions all together until any of you can attack them all together. I'm not here for rigmaroles. If you can't attack them all together, then Jesus is one Being with YAHWEH

1.) Even if creatures share any titles with God, can any creature have the number First (before existence) and Last (after all existence is dissolved) at the same time? Please tell us which.


Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2.) Now with all the above, can any creature be worshipped besides God as Jesus was worshipped by the angels and all the elders fall on their faces and worship Jesus, the judge of the dead and living, even calling Him Almighty.?


3.) Does any creature have the single sovereign throne belonging to both Father and Lamb in one Being from which the river of life flows?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and the Lamb.

If you need help with the answers, refer to my thesis and attack it


Take note people of what this man DappaD has said stripping God of His ability to dwell in different realms at the same time? He says God cannot dwell in two realms at a time.
Even though Jesus said he was on earth(Son) and in heaven(as Father) at the same time because he and the Father are one.

Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven
Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.

and even though the Bible says
Psa 139:7-8 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.

Has he ever read the Bible? or is it only what his elders tell him that he believes?
Tell us again DappaD, is God Omnipresent?



All you JWs quoting scriptures about God being greater than the Jesus. Is it not because Jesus left his Godhead to become a servant/man, that the Father was greater in ability?
Was he not always First and Last with the Father before and after creation?

Rozz:
Both have Bible quotes supporting their claims

No Rozz, they are quoting scriptures about after Jesus left his Godhead to become a servant. But read carefully and you will see that before that He was First and Last before and after creation.




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DappaD:

If the so-called trinitarians can't even agree on their subject of trinity, why should people even be listening to them?

People should listen to them because they approve all the pagan festivities like Birthday, Christmas, Easter, New Year, Valentine and interfaith.
So since they don't have any specific rule that binds them together as one, majority who loves lawlessness (iniquity) like them will embrace them!

Rozz:
Both have Bible quotes supporting their claims

what is the biblical support to show that Jesus is Angel micheal at least Trinitarians there is biblical support that Jesus is God

Maximus69:


People should listen to them because they approve all the pagan festivities like Birthday, Christmas, Easter, New Year, Valentine and interfaith.
So since they don't have any specific rule that binds them together as one, majority who loves lawlessness (iniquity) like them will embrace them!

so called Jehovah witness organisation are having freemasonry ( Satan) symbol.

DrLiveLogic:

Exactly as I thought. I know you will all avoid my straightforward questions and begin to cherry-pick scriptures. Please give a unanimous answer to all and not just some, of the following questions otherwise your exclusive answers are your wrong interpretations. All must go together otherwise your answer is wrong.
I'm going to continue presenting these questions all together until any of you can attack them all together. I'm not here for rigmaroles. If you can't attack them all together, then Jesus is one Being with YAHWEH
1.) Even if creatures share any titles Can any creature have the number First (before existence) and Last (after all existence is dissolved) at the same time? Please tell us which.
Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him
Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.
2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2.) Now with all the above, can any creature be worshipped besides God as Jesus was worshipped by the angels and all the elders fall on their faces and worship Jesus, the judge of the dead and living, even calling Him Almighty.?
3.) Does any creature have the single sovereign throne belonging to both Father and Lamb in one Being from which the river of life flows?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and the Lamb.
If you need help with the answers, refer to my thesis and attack it
Take note people of what this man DappaD has said stripping God of His ability to dwell in different realms at the same time? He says God cannot dwell in two realms at a time.
Even though Jesus said he was on earth(Son) and in heaven(as Father) at the same time because he and the Father are one.
Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven
Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.
and even though the Bible says
Psa 139:7-8 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
Has he ever read the Bible? or is it only what his elders tell him that he believes?
Tell us again DappaD, is God Omnipresent?
All you JWs quoting scriptures about God being greater than the Jesus. Is it not because Jesus left his Godhead to become a servant/man, that the Father was greater in ability?
Was he not always First and Last with the Father before and after creation?
No Rozz, they are quoting scriptures about after Jesus left his Godhead to become a servant. But read carefully and you will see that before that He was First and Last before and after creation.
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Have you ever been to a circus to watch clowns at a life performance?

Solite3 has falsified all your lengthy epistle with just one phrase, he said "Jesus and Jehovah are NOT THE SAME PERSON".

So first of all convince him as your fellow Trinitarian before expecting JWs to take you serious, because to JWs you're all clowns!

solite3:
what is the biblical support to show that Jesus is Angel micheal at least Trinitarians there is biblical support that Jesus is God

Jesus is angel Michael!

©Jesus is the only begotten son of God {John 3:16} all angels are sons of God {Job 38:7} but one is singled out as the archangel (Michael) Revelations 12:7

©Jesus is the one that came to die for our sins {Isaiah 11:10 compare to Isaiah 15:2} because he loved humans out of all the creatures God made through him {Proverbs 8:31} and the only angel mentioned to have stood for God people is called (Michael)! Daniel 12:1

©Jesus is the one God's word said will lead the heavenly armies against Satan and his forces! Revelations 12:7 compare to Matthew 25:31

©Jesus will speak with the voice of the archangel! 1Thessalonians 4:16

©Jesus always revere Jehovah as his God and Father so Michael who is the only one referred to as the archangel must be the first and greatest of all the sons of God, no other person could have such glory apart from Jesus whom the Bible referred to as God's only begotten son (Jesus)

If anyone is still in doubt of this, let him point to any peaceful and united organization on planet earth because God's word called Jesus "the Prince of Peace" {Isaiah 9:6} there is no doubt that the group having this spirit person in their midst must be known globally for their LOVE {John 13:34-35} JOY {John 15:11} and finally PEACE {John 14:27}

Maximus69:


Have you ever been to a circus to watch clowns at a life performance?

Solite3 has falsified all your lengthy epistle with just one phrase, he said "Jesus and Jehovah are NOT THE SAME PERSON".

So first of all convince him as your fellow Trinitarian before expecting JWs to take you serious, because to JWs you're all clowns!

solite agree with Dr live that Jesus and Yahweh is one being.

Maximus69:


Jesus is angel Michael!

clown, hahaha you are a comedian, Maximus.

DappaD:

Thank you, only Jehovah bears the suffix “El Shaddai” meaning “Almighty God” (Genesis 17:1, 28:3)
At Isaiah 9:6 the word translated “Mighty God” is “El Gibbor” and referred to Jesus Christ.

Thank you very much DappaD. You have put the nail to the coffin. Indeed only YAHWEH is Almighty.
And we can see here that the Almighty is one with the judge of the dead and the living, Jesus Christ, who the elders worship.

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

Thank you DappaD for your help. Please preach to your brothers too. LMAO.


Maximus69, stop trying to create confusion between me and solite3. I cannot lose my focus, go back and attack my questions or excuse from the thread.
If water, a single substance, can exist in three states viz. Ice, liquid water and steam, is it too hard for the Creator of water to be one Being(substance) manifesting His three states at the same time and is it too hard for Him to also manifest these three states one at a time?

Rozz, you also should answer this question about water. I want to know if you are understanding.


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Rozz go to this thread below to get explanation of what trinity is about.

https://www.nairaland.com/5954015/what-doctrine-trinity

All who wish to learn about the trinity of God should visit the above thread

DrLiveLogic:

Thank you very much DappaD. You have put the nail to the coffin. Indeed only YAHWEH is Almighty.
And we can see here that the Almighty is one with the judge of the dead and the living, Jesus Christ, who the elders worship.
Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

Thank you DappaD for your help. Please preach to your brothers too. LMAO.


Maximus69, stop trying to create confusion between me and solite3. I cannot lose my focus, go back and attack my questions or excuse from the thread.
If water, a single substance, can exist in three states viz. Ice, liquid water and steam, is it too hard for the Creator of water to be one Being(substance) manifesting His three states at the same time and is it too hard for Him to also manifest these three states one at a time?

Rozz, you also should answer this question about water. I want to know if you are understanding.


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you can see this thread below,
https://www.nairaland.com/5954015/what-doctrine-trinity

solite3:

you can see this thread below,
https://www.nairaland.com/5954015/what-doctrine-trinity

Aiit. Thnx.

Maximus69:


God has the power to see everywhere but because he is Holy his eyes are too pure to look at certain things that humans do to their fellowman {Habakkuk 1:13} that's why he had to send his angels to go and investigate thoroughly if the reports brought to him regarding Sodom and Gomorrah is true! Genesis 18:20-21

Pro 15:3 The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.

Maximus69:
He sent out his active force to search for those whose hearts are pure and loyal to him {2Chronicles 16:9} so when Jesus said "where two or three are gathered in my name" it means he is present only in the midst of those doing his father's will not everywhere.

That's why we disagree with the omnipresence scam Sir!

your active force is the scam in your post, truly God is not just present when two or three are gathered in his name, He is omnipresent:

Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.


God is everywhere
Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?



God is everywhere but you don't believe God's word and think scriptures contradict scriptures
you don't know the scriptures, or God

DrLiveLogic:

Thank you very much DappaD. You have put the nail to the coffin. Indeed only YAHWEH is Almighty.
And we can see here that the Almighty is one with the judge of the dead and the living, Jesus Christ, who the elders worship.

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

Thank you DappaD for your help. Please preach to your brothers too. LMAO.


Maximus69, stop trying to create confusion between me and solite3. I cannot lose my focus, go back and attack my questions or excuse from the thread.
If water, a single substance, can exist in three states viz. Ice, liquid water and steam, is it too hard for the Creator of water to be one Being(substance) manifesting His three states at the same time and is it too hard for Him to also manifest these three states one at a time?

Rozz, you also should answer this question about water. I want to know if you are understanding.


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John 5:22-23
For the Father judges no one at all, but he has entrusted all the judging to the Son, so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him
This includes the authority Jesus was granted by God (Matthew 28:18)

It's like you need to visit a psychiatric hospital, one can clearly see how insane you've become

DrLiveLogic:

Thank you very much DappaD. You have put the nail to the coffin. Indeed only YAHWEH is Almighty.
And we can see here that the Almighty is one with the judge of the dead and the living, Jesus Christ, who the elders worship.

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

Thank you DappaD for your help. Please preach to your brothers too. LMAO.


[s]Maximus69, stop trying to create confusion between me and solite3. I cannot lose my focus, go back and attack my questions or excuse from the thread.[/s]
If water, a single substance, can exist in three states viz. Ice, liquid water and steam, is it too hard for the Creator of water to be one Being(substance) manifesting His three states at the same time and is it too hard for Him to also manifest these three states one at a time?

Rozz, you also should answer this question about water. I want to know if you are understanding.


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Noo
Resolve the issue first with your fellow trinitarian before we can even think of listening to the garbage you're uttering.

solite3:
solite agree with Dr live that Jesus and Yahweh is one being.

trinity never said Jesus and the father are the same person

Rozz please save me from these Trinity confusionists o!
The same Solite3 typed both, perhaps i'm having problems with my glasses o!

Attention everyone on the thread!

Please help me ask who typed this o!

solite3:
You just go all out like attack dog against what you don't even understand,
trinity never said Jesus and the father are same person

Maximus69:




Rozz please save me from these Trinity confusionists o!
The same Solite3 typed both, perhaps i'm having problems with my glasses o!

lol

DappaD:

Noo
Resolve the issue first with your fellow trinitarian before we can even think of listening to the garbage you're uttering.

I wonder o!

Which one do they expect us to take now?

Is it that Jesus is the same person as Jehovah~ DrLiveLogic

Or

Jesus and Jehovah are not the same person~ Solite3

Rozz what did your own Pastor say on the matter jare!

Maximus69:


I wonder o!

Which one do they expect us to take now?

Is it that Jesus is the same person as Jehovah~ DrLiveLogic

Or

Jesus and Jehovah are not the same person~ Solite3

Rozz what did your own Pastor say on the matter jare!

lol don't want another diversion hmm

solite3:
You just go all out like attack dog against what you don't even understand,
trinity never said Jesus and the father are same person.

solite3:
solite agree with Dr live that Jesus and Yahweh is one being.

He has hurriedly agreed with Pastor Dr Live that they are the same being
Oga solite stick to your own narrative let someone take you serious haba

Maximus69:


I wonder o!

Which one do they expect us to take now?

Is it that Jesus is the same person as Jehovah~ DrLiveLogic

Or

Jesus and Jehovah are not the same person~ Solite3

Rozz what did your own Pastor say on the matter jare!

Rozz can see that from all that's been played out here, they have no strong basis for their arguments.

DappaD:

John 5:22-23
For the Father judges no one at all, but he has entrusted all the judging to the Son, so that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him
This includes the authority Jesus was granted by God (Matthew 28:18)

It's like you need to visit a psychiatric hospital, one can clearly see how insane you've become

You JWs have nothing in your arsenal but simple delusions. Why do you keep bringing up scriptures of when Jesus was on earth and limited as a servant, when he chose to become less than the Father?
LMAO.
Why running away from the end of time where He is called Almighty, YAHWEH's title?
Quit with all your avoidance tactics and attack my questions altogether. LMAO.

I'm going to continue presenting these questions all together until any of you can attack them all together. I'm not here for rigmaroles. If you can't attack them all together, then Jesus is one Being with YAHWEH

1.) Even if creatures share any titles Can any creature have the number First (before existence) and Last (after all existence is dissolved) at the same time? Please tell us which.


Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2.) Now with all the above, can any creature be worshipped besides God as Jesus was worshipped by the angels and all the elders fall on their faces and worship Jesus, the judge of the dead and living, even calling Him Almighty.?


3.) Does any creature have the single sovereign throne belonging to both Father and Lamb in one Being from which the river of life flows?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and the Lamb.

If you need help with the answers, refer to my thesis and attack it

DappaD:

Noo
Resolve the issue first with your fellow trinitarian before we can even think of listening to the garbage you're uttering.

bwahahaha! scaredy cats looking for diversion. Face me and stop trying to group people together.

Maximus69:


I wonder o!

Which one do they expect us to take now?

Is it that Jesus is the same person as Jehovah~ DrLiveLogic

Or

Jesus and Jehovah are not the same person~ Solite3

Rozz what did your own Pastor say on the matter jare!

It's so easy to know when people have no knowledge. Why not face me one on one and attack the simple three questions above or are they too hard for you. LMAO
Answer my question on water and the three states then I will show you how one Being can exists in three different states as if each state is a distinct individual. But first, answer my three questions. LMAO

Rozz:
lol don't want another diversion hmm

Rozz I have not seen your answer to my question on water and it's three states. Forget all these diversions these people are trying to come up with. Your answer will make you understand the Godhead.

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Pastor DrLiveLogic,

When Jesus' disciples asked him for the sign of his presence and when the end would come at Matthew 24, are you saying Jesus was lying to his disciples? Please tell me let me know!

Matthew 24:36

“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.”

Since in your narrative, Jesus and God are the same person, then that means Jesus was lying to his disciples?

This one shock me

DrLiveLogic:

You JWs have nothing in your arsenal but simple delusions. Why do you keep bringing up scriptures of when Jesus was on earth and limited as a servant, when he chose to become less than the Father?
LMAO.
Why running away from the end of time where He is called Almighty, YAHWEH's title?
Quit with all your avoidance tactics and attack my questions altogether. LMAO.

I'm going to continue presenting these questions all together until any of you can attack them all together. I'm not here for rigmaroles. If you can't attack them all together, then Jesus is one Being with YAHWEH

1.) Even if creatures share any titles Can any creature have the number First (before existence) and Last (after all existence is dissolved) at the same time? Please tell us which.


Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2.) Now with all the above, can any creature be worshipped besides God as Jesus was worshipped by the angels and all the elders fall on their faces and worship Jesus, the judge of the dead and living, even calling Him Almighty.?


3.) Does any creature have the single sovereign throne belonging to both Father and Lamb in one Being from which the river of life flows?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and the Lamb.

If you need help with the answers, refer to my thesis and attack it



bwahahaha! scaredy cats looking for diversion. Face me and stop trying to group people together.

It's so easy to know when people have no knowledge. Why not face me one on one and attack the simple three questions above or are they too hard for you. LMAO
Answer my question on water and the three states then I will show you how one Being can exists in three different states as if each state is a distinct individual. But first, answer my three questions. LMAO






Rozz I have not seen your answer to my question on water and it's three states. Forget all these diversions these people are trying to come up with. Your answer will make you understand the Godhead.

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Another load of garbage that I won't bother to read.