I didn't zoom right into the murkiness. You know when someone whose main city is 90% slums like Lagos or KInhsasa or Kano claim they have no slums it rather shocking.

Samorobo2:


Lol rvp never posts slum .he is a decent man the height of hypocrisy on this thread irritates me..

rvp20182:
Darslums - Kinshasasa - lagos - those are same categories.

We are talking expansive slumspolis stretching as far as the eye can see.

We are not talking Kibera, Mathare - little illegal island in the nooks and crannies of a great city like Nairobi or even Joburg - we are talking a SLUMPOLIS - metropolis of slums.

DarSlums

I am sorry but you can't heckle Lagos just cos you. So desperately want to defend your slum...face it Nairobi is a slumpolis and Adissa ABBA ,Dar is better than that thick forest road -less slumpolis you call a city ..

Capetown - 1.2 million people live in slums across the city - with about 400,000 people live in Khayelitsha. That is bigger than Kibera.

But I bet the immigrants are main slum-dwellers.

Austine1213:
Khayelitsha,

The circled are the slum part of Khayelitsha

rvp20182:
I didn't zoom right into the murkiness. You know when someone whose main city is 90% slums like Lagos or KInhsasa or Kano claim they have no slums it rather shocking.

Outside your tiny little cubicle sized cdD (CBD , upperhill, Westland) which has terrible basic Infasturture the rest of Nairobi is a slumpolis like Eastleigh..save for maybe few places like Karen and the rest..just forget Langata...it's gives a ghetto road-less vibe for a supposedly posh area....
You have no shame...90% of nairobi is slum...now deal with that and quit projecting your flaws in others..

Abohboy:
I will not even lie, 85 percent of Lagos island is a slum, thst is a fact poor roofing, old buildings but there is now hope because they have just finalized the design of the Lagos island regeneration plan, it basically entails moving some of the people currently living in those buildings to the new ilubirin housing scheme, rebuilding the balogun market and turning it into a massive mall, than demolishing the rest of the buildings and turning them into high rises see pics down below, the last pic is construction progress on the low cost apartments for the people living in the slum of Lagos island.

At least the buildings in Lagos island- no matter how badly built- are mainly built with blocks and concrete unlike Kenya's slums which are built of iron sheets.

But I don't think this plan would work. To me the best way to get people out of slums is to improve the economy. This would in turn enrich the people. They can then upgrade their own homes. That's how it was done in places like Brazil. Not just demolishing people's houses and promising to move them elsewhere. Before you know it now they would sell the plots to rich politicians. Then the slums would surface elsewhere much bigger. Ask the Kenyans .

rvp20182:
How does one start to mentions slums in slum city. It's impossible. I cannot do it for Darslums. I cannot do it for Kinshasasa. I cannot do it for Lagos. Or the ultimate Slumpolis KANO city .

What I can do is to name the nice areas.

The rest you can happily classify them as slums.

In Nairobi, Joburg, Capetown - you can say - behold there is a slum - it's clearly demarcated and countable.

But for DarSlums outside the few decent areas - the rest of the city is a SEA OF POVERTY.

You don't need to project..calm down and sort your integrated slumpolis "Nairobi and worst of all MOMBASSA"

You are envious of the green city in the sun.

We don't joke with the environment - looks at these million of houses including large hospital about to be brought down for encroaching on forest land in Langata


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-XXfNmR_T0

Samorobo2:

I am sorry but you can't heckle Lagos just cos you. So desperately want to defend your slum...face it Nairobi is a slumpolis and Adissa ABBA ,Dar is better than that thick forest road -less slumpolis you call a city ..

forgiveness:


9. Grocery Bazaar

10. Grand Square supermarket and stores

11. De Prince

The difference btw Kenya and Nigeria slums. Nigeria slums are legal. In Kenya they are illegal and constructed with temporary materials - because they will eventually be demolished. They don't have title-deed - and are not expanding. They are established along river beds or public reserve land - so nobody can invest serious money in them.

Now for Nigeria - you have allowed 85% of your city to turn into a huge integrated slumpolis.

And as Abbhoy said - the only solution is demolition.

And strictly enforcing zoning and building codes.

Otherwise as long as anybody can do anything in Nigeria - you're creating an urban jungle.

You're ready to pay the price. In Kenya we demolish multi-million houses routinely.

obaaderemi:
At least the buildings in Lagos island- no matter how badly built- are mainly built with blocks and concrete unlike Kenya's slums which are built of iron sheets.

But I don't think this plan would work. To me the best way to get people out of slums is to improve the economy. This would in turn enrich the people. They can then upgrade their own homes. That's how it was done in places like Brazil. Not just demolishing people's houses and promising to move them elsewhere. Before you know it now they would sell the plots to rich politicians. Then the slums would surface elsewhere much bigger. Ask the Kenyans .

rvp20182:
Nairobi city = Nairobi County = boundaries defined in 1962. This was due to the 2010 constitutional impasse when it was decided that boundaries of counties revert back to 1963.

Nairobi Metro as defined by gov - is huge. Nairobi has expanded into a metro covering 4 counties. The built-up area is in my view 6000km sq...

Tatu city is not in Nairobi - but in the metro. The same with Nortland and Konza. The same with 2 River malls and many other things.

All three of those residential Estates is dead save for Tatu...

Nigeria can never think about demolition such house for encroaching on a forest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guSGrUZtDyA

Annael:

Young boy.
The only town with biggest slums in Africa is Nairobi
Dar es salaam is another level.
Come and visit Dar es salaam.
We have everything.

They should learn to accept that and stop projecting on others...

rvp20182:
That is true. Nairobi has big slums. Your city is a slum with a few nice areas. Big difference. Nairobi is a metropolis. DarSlums is a SLumpolis. Kinshasasa, Lagos and Kano are example of your buddies.

KANO is the ultimate slumpolis of 4m people whose biggest highlight is a roundabout.

Kinshasa is on another level - 20m people living in shanties that expand as far as you can see.

Darslums - at least you got half-decent business district - more like Lagos.

At least Kano sti has some modern area..Mombasa CBD and Nyali which apparently is dubbed as the best neighbourhood in Mombasa is a slum....so what's your point again..

rvp20182:
Capetown - 1.2 million people live in slums across the city - with about 400,000 people live in Khayelitsha. That is bigger than Kibera.

But I bet the immigrants are main slum-dwellers.

Lol 400 000 is the total population of Khayelitsha

80% of Khayelitsha is formal

rvp20182:
Picture of what. Nairobi has enough pictures. You want me to show you Nairobi city as of 1963...north, south, east, west? or you want Nairobi metro.
The only ugly part of Nairobi old - is East - Eastland - but it would still look like Darslums or Lagos best areas.

Lagos is definitely not on Nairobi lower level...don't even dream of it...

Millions of tourist who charter direct flights to Mombasa from Europe and elsewhere don't know what you're talking about. Others who come with cruise ships - we even now have cruise ships terminal - have never heard of your nonsense.

As the peak season gathers momentum, Mombasa is looking to have unprecedented number of tourists, thanks to the increased number of direct international airlines landing at the coastal city.

The city, known as Kenya’s gateway, has seen seven airlines launch dedicated international flights to serve the rising number of tourists eager to sample the sunny, sandy beaches and a wide menu of other attractions.

Samorobo2:


At least Kano sti has some modern area..Mombasa CBD and Nyali which apparently is dubbed as the best neighbourhood in Mombasa is a slum....so what's your point again..

rvp20182:
Capetown - 1.2 million people live in slums across the city - with about 400,000 people live in Khayelitsha. That is bigger than Kibera.

But I bet the immigrants are main slum-dwellers.

Khayelitsha can compete with Nairobi best surbubs

What is it that Nairobi has that Khayelitsha don't have?

Blame mr Google.

Austine1213:


Lol 400 000 is the total population of Khayelitsha

80% of Khayelitsha is formal

Nairobi best suburbs stop smoking illegal stuff. Nairobi has cape-town and Joburg - on it's sight - they are near equal. I know it's hard for you to accept but reality is reality.

Austine1213:


Khayelitsha can compete with Nairobi best surbubs

What is it that Nairobi has that Khayelitsha don't have?

rvp20182:
The difference btw Kenya and Nigeria slums. Nigeria slums are legal. In Kenya they are illegal and constructed with temporary materials - because they will eventually be demolished. They don't have title-deed - and are not expanding. They are established along river beds or public reserve land - so nobody can invest serious money in them.

Now for Nigeria - you have allowed 85% of your city to turn into a huge integrated slumpolis.

And as Abbhoy said - the only solution is demolition.

And strictly enforcing zoning and building codes.

Otherwise as long as anybody can do anything in Nigeria - you're creating an urban jungle.

You're ready to pay the price. In Kenya we demolish multi-million houses routinely.

I agree with you in most parts but 85% of Lagos is not slum, the buildings in Lagos island, have zinc roofing which makes them rusty, and the buildings scare very old and near collapsing I would say 60-70% of Lagos is slums but not 85% let me show you a map of Lagos and circle the areas with slums

rvp20182:
Nairobi best suburbs stop smoking illegal stuff. Nairobi has cape-town and Joburg - on it's sight - they are near equal. I know it's hard for you to accept but reality is reality.

Lol nairobi can't even stand up to Rustenburg standards

Abohboy:
I will not even lie, 85 percent of Lagos island is a slum, thst is a fact poor roofing, old buildings but there is now hope because they have just finalized the design of the Lagos island regeneration plan, it basically entails moving some of the people currently living in those buildings to the new ilubirin housing scheme, rebuilding the balogun market and turning it into a massive mall, than demolishing the rest of the buildings and turning them into high rises see pics down below, the last pic is construction progress on the low cost apartments for the people living in the slum of Lagos island.

This is what you are known for..you try your best to appear so apologetic to Kenya so you can convince them about a new project...you threw Lagos island under the bus so you could convince them about the new plan for that area...it's like making a big sacrifice to achieve a greater goal...

You need to stop most of this lies and persistent attempt to impress Kenyans and make them accept your point of view....the rusted brown roofing of balogun market is the only ugliness that place and that where the govt intends demolishing..the rest places is nothing like you described..

It will take a lot of hard work to fix Lagos. First gov just needs to start zoning laws. They will declare illegal to roof a house with zinc or tin. The owners will have to bring down their roof and roof properly. 2ndly they declare they must re-paint the buildings. Plant flowers, trees and the works.

It won't just happen. In Nairobi - City authority - regularly orders people to re-paint their houses. They also have strict zoning laws. And strong resident associations. Mombasa ordered people to even paint in only two colors.

Gov has to interfere on people's live to make sure they don't live like rodents.

Lagos - start with zoning laws - choose roofing materials - colors - and name it. Also, start tree planting - and beautifications.

Those unable should sell their land to keep up with standards and go to low-income areas.

You cannot have everyone doing whatever they want

Abohboy:


I agree with you in most parts but 85% of Lagos is not slum, the buildings in Lagos island, have zinc roofing which makes them rusty, and the buildings scare very old and near collapsing I would say 60-70% of Lagos is slums but not 85% let me show you a map of Lagos and circle the areas with slums

rvp20182:
Blame mr Google.

You can see from the pics from google maps, you can try here maps if you want


Tell me What is it that Nairobi has n Khayelitsha dont have?

Absolutely nothing

Unless you're setting the standards and marking them.

Austine1213:

Lol nairobi can't even stand up to Rustenburg standards

Abohboy:


I agree with you in most parts but 85% of Lagos is not slum, the buildings in Lagos island, have zinc roofing which makes them rusty, and the buildings scare very old and near collapsing I would say 60-70% of Lagos is slums but not 85% let me show you a map of Lagos and circle the areas with slums

You so desperately want to inform them about the Lagos island regeneration. ..you know my..those places stretches to obalende..tell me since when did obalende become a shanty slum....you say rubbish alot

Tell me what Rustenburg has that Nairobi don't or anything in South Africa - that won't be available in Kenya. What a prick.

Austine1213:

You can see from the pics from google maps, you can try here maps if you want

Tell me What is it that Nairobi has n Khayelitsha dont have?

Absolutely nothing

Nigeria will only fix it's issues when it get out of GRAND DELUSION that they are best in Africa. You need to admit that you're indeed in a hole - and try to fix it.

But here you want to rail-road every Nigerian to continue in this grand delusion - while poverty is increasing.

You cannot fight facts.

Samorobo2:


This is what you are known for..you try your best to appear so apologetic to Kenya so you can convince them about a new project...you threw Lagos island under the bus so you could convince them about the new plan for that area...it's like making a big sacrifice to achieve a greater goal...

You need to stop most of this lies and persistent attempt to impress Kenyans and make them accept your point of view....the rusted brown roofing of balogun market is the only ugliness that place and that where the govt intends demolishing..the rest places is nothing like you described..

rvp20182:
Tell me what Rustenburg has that Nairobi don't or anything in South Africa - that won't be available in Kenya. What a prick.

Nairobi vs Khayelitsha

What is it that Nairobi has that Khayelitsha don't have?

You have 1.2m (out of 3.5M) people living in slums in Cape-town - nearly all of them blacks. You can choose to engage in schoolyard pranks with Samrobo but I won't dignify your nonsense.

While Nairobi was ranked no 14 worldwide in eco-friendliness - your best Cape town - came - nearly at 50.

Nairobi is moving forward as you regress.

Austine1213:


Nairobi vs Khayelitsha

What is it that Nairobi has that Khayelitsha don't have?

rvp20182:
It will take a lot of hard work to fix Lagos. First gov just needs to start zoning laws. They will declare illegal to roof a house with zinc or tin. The owners will have to bring down their roof and roof properly. 2ndly they declare they must re-paint the buildings. Plant flowers, trees and the works.

It won't just happen. In Nairobi - City authority - regularly orders people to re-paint their houses. They also have strict zoning laws. And strong resident associations. Mombasa ordered people to even paint in only two colors.

Gov has to interfere on people's live to make sure they don't live like rodents.

Lagos - start with zoning laws - choose roofing materials - colors - and name it. Also, start tree planting - and beautifications.

Those unable should sell their land to keep up with standards and go to low-income areas.

You cannot have everyone doing whatever they want

There are already zoning lawsin place but Nigeria has a large population so it is hard to maintain , And you need to stop acting like Kenya doesn’t have slums either.

Austine1213:


Nairobi vs Khayelitsha

What is it that Nairobi has that Khayelitsha don't have?

This is the most annoying and egoistic statement I have ever heard since I joined Nairaland .
But it's okay. South Africa hoyeee.!!