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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 11:03pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
Maximus69:The bolded! ![]() They must resolve the issue first ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 11:06pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
johnw47: See response o! Sebi it's a blind person that asks the one seeing to lead the way, oya nah answer. Oya open his eyes nah, the question how many persons is that spirit at John 4:24. At least teach first before you begin worry over whether student go pass abi he go fail! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:07pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
DappaD: poor queer are you a lie lie rozz clone? |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:08pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
Maximus69: ooh duh confused fool, God is a Spirit what are you trying to say |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 11:09pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
johnw47: You don't need to bite me nah! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:14pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
DappaD: like all false jw's you say anything tell me what are my beliefs, oh sawdust for brains false jw fool better still post my quotes oh fearful one: Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:16pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
Maximus69: that's it run away again coward |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:17pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
solite3:A Person (Human person or Spirit person) is a Being. 1 Corinthians 15:40,44.There is a physical body (human beings- man, animals ) and a spiritual body (spirit beings-God, Angels, demons). But triune pagan IDOL WORSHIPPERS TWIST it to sweeten their Trinity SCAM. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:20pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
Janosky: have you only just discovered that God is not three spirits, oh great fool reply to what i say fearful one: Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 11:22pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
johnw47:If because of you, thief enter your church this night Your daddy G.O go vex oo Leave phone and go and watch the gate oga johnw47 ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:28pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
DappaD: typical fearful false jw you cannot reply to things i say have to make up confused nonsense: Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. 1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:45pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
DappaD: you haven't read it but it's garbage there is no fool like a false jw fool 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:57pm On Jul 01, 2020 |
DrLiveLogic: Bros, John 20:17 & Revelations 3:5, Matt10:32, Jesus Christ says himself is accountable to his God and Father. John 17:2, Matt28:18, Did Jesus CONFESSED his God and Father gave him authority? Jesus Christ is loyal to the core. ![]() Yes ! Psalms 139:7-8 is clarified in Psalms 33:13-14. From His residence in heaven, Yahweh sees all Sons of men and inhabitants of the earth. Yahweh no dey your toilet or bathroom. ![]() John 15:15,John7:16 who taught Jesus? His God and Father,Yahweh taught Jesus. Deut 6:13 (Matthew 4:10 ) Jesus CONFESSED Yahweh NEVER commanded anybody to worship Jesus. Trinitarian Hebrews 1:6 FRAUD is MISLEADING gullible sheeples. Hebrews 1:6 Yahweh says pay homage to the son, NOT worship. Bros, 1 Cor3:6-8, Paul and Apollos are one ? Yes ! Mark 19:4-6 Husband and wife are one? Yes John 17:22 Jesus disciples are one just as Jesus and his father are one? Yes. 1 Corinthians 3:23 "You (disciples) belong to Christ, in turn Christ belongs to God" Case closed. If DrLiveLogic no agree, " 2 Corinthians 11:31 " the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ knows I am not lying" 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 12:05am On Jul 02, 2020 |
DappaD: DappaD: there is only two minutes between your two posts you that impatient to jump in the fire |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 12:06am On Jul 02, 2020 |
DappaD: DrLiveLogic: ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 12:33am On Jul 02, 2020 |
Look at the BELOW.......Imitate their Faith book.....page 106 footnote to paragraph 22. Links provided https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102013258 THE SOURCE of this “CALM, LOW VOICE” may have been the SAME Spirit who was used to deliver “JEHOVAH’S WORD” mentioned at 1 Kings 19:9. In verse 15, THIS SPIRIT is referred to simply as “JEHOVAH.” We might be reminded of the SPIRIT EMISSARY whom JEHOVAH used to GUIDE Israel in the WILDERNESS and of whom God said: “My NAME is WITHIN HIM.” (Ex. 23:21) We cannot be dogmatic on this point, of course, but it is worth noting that in his prehuman existence, Jesus served as “the Word,” the special Spokesman to Jehovah’s servants.—John 1:1. The above extract from the book(Imitate their Faith) is KEY as the answer derived from the questions below will have to be SUBSTITUTED back into above. Follow closely as much as possible. It will lead you to something interesting as it relates to JEHOVAH and JESUS in the land of JWs. Question 1. Who is the SPIRIT EMISSARY whom JEHOVAH used to GUIDE Israel? 2. God sent which angel ahead of Israel when bringing them out of Egypt? (Ex. 23:20, 21) Answer 1. It is reasonable to believe that the angel who had ‘Jehovah’s name within him’ was God’s firstborn Son, who later became Jesus.—9/15, page 21. https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2010929#h=7:0-9:0 Answer 2. Spiritual Prince of Israel 2, 3. What ACTIVE role did GOD’S SON play in Israel? 2 Centuries before the founding of the Christian congregation, JEHOVAH had an ANGELIC LEADER over his people Israel. After bringing out of Egypt, Jehovah told them: “Here I am sending an ANGEL AHEAD of you to keep you on the ROAD and to bring you into the place that I have PREPARED. Watch yourself because of him and obey his voice. Do not behave rebelliously against him, for he will not pardon your transgression; because MY NAME is WITHIN HIM.” (Ex. 23:20, 21) It is reasonable to believe that this ANGEL, who had ‘Jehovah’s name within him,’ was GOD’S FIRSTBORN SON. https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2010685#h=4:0-6:0 So in essence the ANGEL here is JESUS CHRIST THIS SAME SPIRIT that was REFERRED to as JEHOVAH In 1 Kings 19:15. Now let's substitute the answer back...... THE SOURCE of this “CALM, LOW VOICE” may have been the SAME JESUS who was used to deliver “JEHOVAH’S WORD” mentioned at 1 Kings 19:9. In verse 15, THIS JESUS is referred to simply as “JEHOVAH.” We might be reminded of the JESUS(EMISSARY) whom JEHOVAH used to GUIDE Israel in the WILDERNESS and of whom God said: “My NAME is WITHIN HIM.” (Ex. 23:21) We cannot be dogmatic on this point....... @ DrLiveLogic JWs will tell you TRINITY is dead and buried but will be the first to jump on any thread about the same TRINITY. They equally have their version of TRINITY which is JEHOVAH_________JESUS_______ORGANIZATION(WTBTS as controlled by the Governing Body(not inspired) yet they go against that of those they called CHRISTENDOM FATHER________SON__________HOLY SPIRIT In reality if your not a member of the ORGANIZATION you cannot have JESUS and JEHOVAH that's the biggest palaver of the whole scenario. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 12:55am On Jul 02, 2020 |
achorladey:Congrats for making a fool of yourself ![]() ![]() Now before we begin to address any of the things you've said above, CAN YOU LET ROZZ AND THE VIEWERS OF THIS THREAD ON NAIRALAND KNOW THE RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION YOU BELONG TO AND ITS STAND ON TRINITY? Please speak now or forever hold your peace. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 1:08am On Jul 02, 2020 |
^^^ if i belonged to a religious organisation i wouldn't tell of it either they are wanting to mock it as they do all churches other than their own antichrist - antichristian sect they claim to know Him but are as blinded as hell: 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 1:25am On Jul 02, 2020 |
brocab: bro, i though you would have joined solite3 against these pesky little false jw's i'm enjoying reading more than posting |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DrLiveLogic(m): 3:54am On Jul 02, 2020 |
BREAKING NEWS!!! (brought to you by FOX news) ![]() The self-acclaimed unstoppable force of JWs have met their sudden demise at the instance of an immovable object. It appears anything that has to do with the number 3(like trinity) always causes them untold problems and fear. LMAO. Just 3 questions to answer unanimously and boom! old papas ran for cover. And can you guess who is behind the immovable object of 3 innocent questions www.nairaland.com/attachments/11845036_20200627154731_jpege70455fb4bca413fbe532611361b0bfb Yep. That little child up there has made old papas to gather for emergency meeting laughing so hard. LMAO. Didn't you read? "out of the mouth of babes and sucklings, He will quiet the enemies"(Ps 8:2). But little do they know the baby is spying on their meeting because he's so tiny they can't even see him. ![]() www.nairaland.com/attachments/11845037_img20200702022550_jpeg3eb3e72000f0dab918536a911584c9b0 I told Rozz to see how a little cute kid knowing only so little but who wants to learn will dismantle wisdom of old papas who don't want to learn anymore. Now I've given you milk, my baby food to drink and y'all old papas can't digest it. Unknown to you I'm reclining in my chair about to bring hard meat that'll choke your throats and then finally I'll bring bones to scatter your toothless gums. See below how I'm plotting your downfall. LMAO. www.nairaland.com/attachments/11845038_20200702022900_jpeg36a65634e95ee60d0ba249768ec6b71e But one by one. First, I want it to be very clear how empty your lies and gun barrels are and that is already 90% obvious. Then when your bullets are wasted, I'll bring forth my remaining ammo of the Godhead prerogatives. Remember, I'm doing all this just cos I really love y'all, DappaD, take note please, and want to save you from destruction and I will explain to DappaD later on about the real trinity pagan worship origin. Btw, I just learnt from this thread that this is even JW building. ![]() www.nairaland.com/attachments/11845039_20200701115214_jpeg4eb332885a094b983547f6a4a07121b9 johnw47:Bwahahaha! LMAO. ***Warning!!!!:*** Any JW that quotes me, if I hear "pim", you will meet with those 3 "gbosa" that you've been running from. ![]() NB: Take note people that all their scripture quotations trying to show disparity between YAHWEH and Jesus all have to do with when Jesus yielded up His Omnipotence to become a servant. They are deliberately avoiding what was written about before creation and after creation. A big thank you too to all who are dismantling JW lies both from history, from their own internal papers and from bible. Well done everyone. Cc: johnw47, achorladey, Rozz, Maximus69, Janosky, Peacefullove, solite3, hoopernikao, Peacefullove, DappaD. 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 4:17am On Jul 02, 2020 |
DrLiveLogic:dont you sleep |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DrLiveLogic(m): 4:22am On Jul 02, 2020 |
Rozz:LMAO. Do you know what the time is where I am? |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 4:26am On Jul 02, 2020 |
DrLiveLogic:you don't share the same time with us |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DrLiveLogic(m): 4:35am On Jul 02, 2020 |
Rozz:Wait first. Let's leave that matter for Mathias. You told me you wanted to learn how to be spiritual. Well, I cannot help you except I know your stand. Even if you say you don't want insults here, which I'm yet to understand. You can at least PM me your stand, and what your confusion actually is and also what you understand and don't understand yet from what I've been posting here. Can't you do that if you're serious? 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 4:41am On Jul 02, 2020 |
Lately I haven't heard from anybody-let alone Solite3-I have been casually arguing the Word to the unbelievers-but you know how it is, it's the Word of God that never makes any sense to the JW's.. johnw47: 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 4:44am On Jul 02, 2020 |
Let's not forget-everything concerning the Word of God is beyond your understanding..Jesus's followers are already united-and preaching the Word of God-oop's I don't see you there.. Maximus69: 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 4:46am On Jul 02, 2020 |
As always... solite3: 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 4:52am On Jul 02, 2020 |
DrLiveLogic:lol you have also refused to mention the name of your church here, why are you hiding it |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DrLiveLogic(m): 5:00am On Jul 02, 2020 |
Rozz:First of all, you never asked me so I'm hiding nothing but even if you did, I will ask you why that is important to someone who doesn't know anything and who just wants to learn the truth of Jesus's divinity. Is it not enough for the Bible to show you no matter the church? Do you know also that I've found out that only JWs are interested in knowing people's churches. So if you keep asking that on this thread it gives more reason to believe that you're a mole or something. Btw, I'm not going to expose your stand to anyone if that's what you're scared of, as I'm mature enough to respect people's privacy. So the fact that you're deliberately hiding your stand even when I suggested PM makes you seem very suspicious. 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 5:11am On Jul 02, 2020 |
DrLiveLogic:lol,i actually got interested in asking people their church when I realized that most of you guys hide the church you attend,thats just it. Are you a pastor?i I think I need God's guidance not really spiritual help, there's so much contradictions in Christianity 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DrLiveLogic(m): 5:35am On Jul 02, 2020 |
Rozz: There is no confusion in true Christianity, forget what you see on the surface. It all arises from poor learning and deviating from what Jesus taught. Every contradiction in Christianity comes with improper teaching and misunderstanding of scriptures like these JWs who cannot answer my questions have proven how badly they're taught. But a proper teaching, no one will be able to gainsay. Have you seen any JW here able to stand up to my simple 3 question challenge. All of them running helter skelter. Anyway, I can also tell you how you can always know the marks of who to listen to and who to avoid but not on this thread. Maybe when you tag me in another thread. As for whether I'm a pastor, JWs always like to know that too, they've been tagging me that here so that I will respond but I have avoided that on this thread. So leave that one if you say you're not of them. What matters is the Bible. I can help you there whenever you want. Now let us leave trinity first, what did you understand about the three states of water? 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 6:02am On Jul 02, 2020 |
DrLiveLogic:you are saying we should leave Trinity when you know that the explanation for the three states of water still centred around Trinity |
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