Maximus69:
It's OK let's forgive them again this second time!
Remember they're all coming each to spew his own PERSONAL gibberish against JWs, we know they're not in agreement over their useless Dogheads yet they've all refused to mention the name of their shrines they nicknamed Church.
OK two of them entered one chance over the personality of Jesus.
But me o, any other Trinitarian can come up i'll be ready to respond, as for Solite3 and DrLiveLogic, they must tell me the outcome of their family meeting before any further discussion!

johnw47:


blinded false jw janosky

God is a Spirit
when are you going to have the courage to reply to what i say in my posts oh fearful blinded one:

Rev 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

DappaD:


It seems pastor johnw47 has begun his night shift.

Maximus69:


See response o!

Sebi it's a blind person that asks the one seeing to lead the way, oya nah answer.

Oya open his eyes nah, the question
how many persons is that spirit at John 4:24.

At least teach first before you begin worry over whether student go pass abi he go fail!

johnw47:

ooh duh confused fool God is a Spirit
what are you trying to say

DappaD:
There's actually no difference between DrLiveLogic and johnw47
Both misinformed churchgoers and self-acclaimed “Bible scholars”
Always recycling scriptures that don't agree with their line of thought.

Maximus69:


You don't need to bite me nah!

solite3:
can't you spot the difference between person and being? cc Rozz

Janosky:

Confirmento
God is NOT 3 triune spirits.

Trinity GIBBERISH goes down to the Sewage Tank.

johnw47:



like all false jw's you say anything
tell me my what are my beliefs, oh sawdust for brainf false jw fool

better still post my quotes oh fearful one:

Rev 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

DappaD:

If because of you, thief enter your church this night
Your daddy G.O go vex oo
Leave phone and go and watch the gate oga johnw47

DappaD:


Another load of garbage that I won't bother to read.

DrLiveLogic:


Exactly as I thought. I know you will all avoid my straightforward questions and begin to cherry-pick scriptures. Please give a unanimous answer to all and not just some, of the following questions otherwise your exclusive answers are your wrong interpretations. All must go together otherwise your answer is wrong.
I'm going to continue presenting these questions all together until any of you can attack them all together. I'm not here for rigmaroles. If you can't attack them all together, then Jesus is one Being with YAHWEH

1.) Even if creatures share any titles with God, can any creature have the number First (before existence) and Last (after all existence is dissolved) at the same time? Please tell us which.


Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2.) Now with all the above, can any creature be worshipped besides God as Jesus was worshipped by the angels and all the elders fall on their faces and worship Jesus, the judge of the dead and living, even calling Him Almighty.?


3.) Does any creature have the single sovereign throne belonging to both Father and Lamb in one Being from which the river of life flows?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and the Lamb.

If you need help with the answers, refer to my thesis and attack it


Take note people of what this man DappaD has said stripping God of His ability to dwell in different realms at the same time? He says God cannot dwell in two realms at a time.
Even though Jesus said he was on earth(Son) and in heaven(as Father) at the same time because he and the Father are one.

Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven
Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.

and even though the Bible says
Psa 139:7-8 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.

Has he ever read the Bible? or is it only what his elders tell him that he believes?
Tell us again DappaD, is God Omnipresent?



All you JWs quoting scriptures about God being greater than the Jesus. Is it not because Jesus left his Godhead to become a servant/man, that the Father was greater in ability?
Was he not always First and Last with the Father before and after creation?


No Rozz, they are quoting scriptures about after Jesus left his Godhead to become a servant. But read carefully and you will see that before that He was First and Last before and after creation.




Cc: johnw47, achorladey, Rozz, Maximus69, TATIME, Janosky, Peacefullove, haywizzy007, Acehart, solite3, KNOWMORE56, hoopernikao, DappaD, Peacefullove

DappaD:

You've not answered my own question, which is straight and direct.

Was Jesus lying to his disciples at Matthew 24:36?

“Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” ?

Was Jesus also lying when he said God is greater than he is? John 14:28 ?

And please stop copying and pasting these scriptures like you even understand any of them. Thank you.

DappaD:


Answer me YES or NO. Everyone on this thread that can bear me witness that it is a very simple question.

DappaD:

I already said I'm not answering your stupid questions because you don't even know the scriptures you're quoting.

DrLiveLogic:

Bwahahaha! LMAO. Another JW bows out. Next!

achorladey:

Look at the BELOW.......Imitate their Faith book.....page 106 footnote to paragraph 22.
Links provided

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102013258

THE SOURCE of this “CALM, LOW VOICE” may have been the SAME Spirit who was used to deliver “JEHOVAH’S WORD” mentioned at 1 Kings 19:9. In verse 15, THIS SPIRIT is referred to simply as “JEHOVAH.” We might be reminded of the SPIRIT EMISSARY whom JEHOVAH used to GUIDE Israel in the WILDERNESS and of whom God said: “My NAME is WITHIN HIM.” (Ex. 23:21) We cannot be dogmatic on this point, of course, but it is worth noting that in his prehuman existence, Jesus served as “the Word,” the special Spokesman to Jehovah’s servants.​—John 1:1.

The above extract from the book(Imitate their Faith) is KEY as the answer derived from the questions below will have to be SUBSTITUTED back into above. Follow closely as much as possible. It will lead you to something interesting as it relates to JEHOVAH and JESUS in the land of JWs.

Question 1. Who is the SPIRIT EMISSARY whom JEHOVAH used to GUIDE Israel?

2. God sent which angel ahead of Israel when bringing them out of Egypt? (Ex. 23:20, 21)

Answer 1. It is reasonable to believe that the angel who had ‘Jehovah’s name within him’ was God’s firstborn Son, who later became Jesus.​—9/15, page 21.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2010929#h=7:0-9:0

Answer 2. Spiritual Prince of Israel

2, 3. What ACTIVE role did GOD’S SON play in Israel?

2 Centuries before the founding of the Christian congregation, JEHOVAH had an ANGELIC LEADER over his people Israel. After bringing out of Egypt, Jehovah told them: “Here I am sending an ANGEL AHEAD of you to keep you on the ROAD and to bring you into the place that I have PREPARED. Watch yourself because of him and obey his voice. Do not behave rebelliously against him, for he will not pardon your transgression; because MY NAME is WITHIN HIM.” (Ex. 23:20, 21) It is reasonable to believe that this ANGEL, who had ‘Jehovah’s name within him,’ was GOD’S FIRSTBORN SON.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2010685#h=4:0-6:0

So in essence the ANGEL here is JESUS CHRIST THIS SAME SPIRIT that was REFERRED to as JEHOVAH In 1 Kings 19:15.


Now let's substitute the answer back......

THE SOURCE of this “CALM, LOW VOICE” may have been the SAME JESUS who was used to deliver “JEHOVAH’S WORD” mentioned at 1 Kings 19:9. In verse 15, THIS JESUS is referred to simply as “JEHOVAH.” We might be reminded of the JESUS(EMISSARY) whom JEHOVAH used to GUIDE Israel in the WILDERNESS and of whom God said: “My NAME is WITHIN HIM.” (Ex. 23:21) We cannot be dogmatic on this point.......

@ DrLiveLogic JWs will tell you TRINITY is dead and buried but will be the first to jump on any thread about the same TRINITY.

They equally have their version of TRINITY which is

JEHOVAH_________JESUS_______ORGANIZATION(WTBTS as controlled by the Governing Body(not inspired)

yet they go against that of those they called CHRISTENDOM

FATHER________SON__________HOLY SPIRIT

In reality if your not a member of the ORGANIZATION you cannot have JESUS and JEHOVAH that's the biggest palaver of the whole scenario.

brocab:
How are you bro, good to have you back ?

johnw47:

DrLiveLogic:
BREAKING NEWS!!! (brought to you by FOX news)


The self-acclaimed unstoppable force of JWs have met their sudden demise at the instance of an immovable object.
It appears anything that has to do with the number 3(like trinity) always causes them untold problems and fear. LMAO.
Just 3 questions to answer unanimously and boom! old papas ran for cover.
And can you guess who is behind the immovable object of 3 innocent questions
www.nairaland.com/attachments/11845036_20200627154731_jpege70455fb4bca413fbe532611361b0bfb


Yep. That little child up there has made old papas to gather for emergency meeting laughing so hard. LMAO. Didn't you read? "out of the mouth of babes and sucklings, He will quiet the enemies"(Ps 8:2). But little do they know the baby is spying on their meeting because he's so tiny they can't even see him.
www.nairaland.com/attachments/11845037_img20200702022550_jpeg3eb3e72000f0dab918536a911584c9b0



I told Rozz to see how a little cute kid knowing only so little but who wants to learn will dismantle wisdom of old papas who don't want to learn anymore.
Now I've given you milk, my baby food to drink and y'all old papas can't digest it. Unknown to you I'm reclining in my chair about to bring hard meat that'll choke your throats and then finally I'll bring bones to scatter your toothless gums. See below how I'm plotting your downfall. LMAO.
www.nairaland.com/attachments/11845038_20200702022900_jpeg36a65634e95ee60d0ba249768ec6b71e



But one by one. First, I want it to be very clear how empty your lies and gun barrels are and that is already 90% obvious. Then when your bullets are wasted, I'll bring forth my remaining ammo of the Godhead prerogatives.
Remember, I'm doing all this just cos I really love y'all, DappaD, take note please, and want to save you from destruction and I will explain to DappaD later on about the real trinity pagan worship origin. Btw, I just learnt from this thread that this is even JW building.
www.nairaland.com/attachments/11845039_20200701115214_jpeg4eb332885a094b983547f6a4a07121b9




***Warning!!!!:*** Any JW that quotes me, if I hear "pim", you will meet with those 3 "gbosa" that you've been running from. and explain why the elders fall on their faces to worship Jesus, the Almighty.


NB: Take note people that all their scripture quotations trying to show disparity between YAHWEH and Jesus all have to do with when Jesus yielded up His Omnipotence to become a servant. They are deliberately avoiding what was written about before creation and after creation.
A big thank you too to all who are dismantling JW lies both from history, from their own internal papers and from bible. Well done everyone.




Cc: johnw47, achorladey, Rozz, Maximus69, Janosky, Peacefullove, solite3, hoopernikao, Peacefullove, DappaD.

Rozz:
dont you sleep

DrLiveLogic:

LMAO. Do you know what the time is where I am?

Rozz:
you don't share the same time with us

johnw47:


bro, i though you would have joined solite3 against these pesky little false jw's

i'm enjoying reading more than posting

Maximus69:


The so called disbelievers are waiting for the PERFECT definition of TRINITY from Trinitarians, for almost 2,000 years now TRINITY has been causing confusion amongst it's adherents because they can neither come up with one definition nor one unified form of worship under which they can have PEACE, each is emerging with it's own definition, code of conduct, form of worship and titles all under the same mother (TRINITY) Revelations 17:5

Because of TRINITY many people have been killed for asking questions regarding the confusion caused by this harlot, TRINITY is called harlot because she commits adultery with world rulers by pushing her adherents to participate in the politics of wherever they live and everyone knows that when people engage in politics heads will roll and blood will flow! Revelations 17:8

Jesus' followers will be united in preaching and teaching zealously for God's Kingdom (government){Revelations 12:17} but the children of the harlot will be fighting and killing one another for prominence and governance of the world. Revelations 17:18

All these are sacred secrets that only the Born Again Christians can unravel, whenever anyone reads this texts without guidance of God's holy spirit, they'll continue to apply it literally that's why all of you only focus on the literal meaning of words like "burning by fire or lake of fire" but when you read other part of the same book of Revelations, you'll keep off because it's beyond your understanding!

solite3:
they are running away with tails in between their legs.

DrLiveLogic:

Wait first. Let's leave that matter for Mathias. You told me you wanted to learn how to be spiritual.

Well, I cannot help you except I know your stand. Even if you say you don't want insults here, which I'm yet to understand. You can at least PM me your stand, and what your confusion actually is and also what you understand and don't understand yet from what I've been posting here. Can't you do that if you're serious?

Rozz:
lol you have also refused to mention the name of your church here, why are you hiding it

DrLiveLogic:

First of all, you never asked me so I'm hiding nothing but even if you did, I will ask you why that is important to someone who doesn't know anything and who just wants to learn the truth of Jesus's divinity. Is it not enough for the Bible to show you no matter the church?


Do you know also that I've found out that only JWs are interested in knowing people's churches. So if you keep asking that on this thread it gives more reason to believe that you're a mole or something.


Btw, I'm not going to expose your stand to anyone as I'm mature enough to respect people's privacy if you're scared of that. So what stops you from a PM on your stand about this divinity matter, your confusion and where you need help spiritually.

Rozz:
lol,i actually got interested in asking people their church when I realized that most of you guys hide the church you attend,thats just it. Are you a pastor?i I think I need God's guidance not really spiritual help, there's so much contradictions in Christianity

DrLiveLogic:


There is no confusion in true Christianity, forget what you see on the surface. It all arises from poor learning and deviating from what Jesus taught. Every contradiction in Christianity comes with improper teaching and misunderstanding of scriptures like these JWs who cannot answer my questions have proven how badly they're taught.

But a proper teaching, no one will be able to gainsay. Have you seen any JW here able to stand up to my simple 3 question challenge. All of them running helter skelter.
Anyway, I can also tell you how you can always know the marks of who to listen to and who to avoid but not on this thread. Maybe when you tag me in another thread.

As for whether I'm a pastor, JWs always like to know that too, they've been tagging me that here so that I will respond but I have avoided that on this thread. So leave that one if you say you're not of them.

What matters is the Bible. I can help you there whenever you want.



Now let us leave trinity first, what did you understand about the three states of water?