Rozz:
lol you have also refused to mention the name of your church here, why are you hiding it

Rozz:
you are saying we should leave Trinity when you know that the explanation for the three states of water still centred around Trinity

Rozz:
lie lie johnw47 good morning, you slept all night today

DrLiveLogic:

You are assuming things too quickly. I believe we should leave the spiritual and first understand the physical that is easy to relate with.
So I ask again.
Is it true that even though water exists in three states, it is still the same substance, yes or no?
it's a very simple question and no one can insult you for a right answer.
I believe you were taught in secondary school or can't you remember?

johnw47:

lie lie rozz, there's no fool like a fat ass fool
are you drunk or on drugs

DrLiveLogic:


Do you realize you're making a fool of yourself before everyone. Is it blindness or inability to comprehend things? Can you read no 2 slowly now..







Did you not read this before, oga stop going in circles.



Listen, chap! If you know you don't have the answers to my three questions, let's wait for your friends to come help you. Don't waste people's time with rigmaroles.
My 3 questions are simply meat for you all to chew so I can test the strength of your teeth and so far you're all tripping over yourselves. I am still coming with other questions that are like bones when you finally can chew the meat. LMAO.



Hello. If you wanted God to guide us all, why open a thread? And if you said you want to just learn, why are you yet to answer my question on the three states of water? Did you not see it?




Cc: johnw47, achorladey, Rozz, Maximus69, TATIME, Janosky, Peacefullove, haywizzy007, Acehart, solite3, KNOWMORE56, hoopernikao, Peacefullove, DappaD

solite3:
Jehovah witness confusion,

they always diverse from issues to straws.

can any Jehovah witness point out a verse that says Jesus is Angel michael?
at least Trinitarians can show you verses that show that Jesus is God.
Johnn1vv1
Janosky, peacefullove, Maximus, Dappa, Rozz etc oya show a verse that says that Jesus is Angel Michael.

Rozz:
lol,now this is the real you. deeper life boy

hoopernikao:


@Peacefullove

Ensure all you are saying doesnt contradict this yous aid above some weeks back.

You can see your explanation of Everlasting Father and also Mighty God. You seems not to be consistent again.

God is called gibbowr, only God is referred to as everlasting personality. Hence the one who has the power to give eternity. Everlasting Father, Father means father not brother o. Just make sure you arent mixing things up.

Rozz:
you are saying we should leave Trinity when you know that the explanation for the three states of water still centred around Trinity

Rozz:
Im a core science student and I perfectly understand that, and also know the point you are driving at

hoopernikao:


You guys have a way of trying to muddle things up. You will need to calm down as i need to take you step by step.

1. I asked you for the early church who preached Jesus as Angel, you mentioned Justin Matry without a single quote from his work? Justin Matry works arent hiding, go and do your search yourself and read all his texts and submissions. I am not sure you are patient enough to read that is why you are quoting wikipedia. In such serious discussion as this?

My friend, you should go and read Justin Matry well. He spoken expressly on the Father, Son and HolyGhost.

His writing are in absolute submission to Christ as incarnate of the God. Different personality. Go and read before you start quoting him please.

When i see your seriousness we will visit 1 Thess 4:16 well and have a full discussion. I am yet to see that.

DrLiveLogic:

Good girl. I'm happy you're a science core and I wouldn't mind knowing what part of science you specialize in.
Now then, just follow me on cruise mode and our jet will land safely. LMAO

You have passed the first test, I assume, understanding the three states of water.

Now just go through my 3 statements below. Don't answer the questions yet o. No need for that now.
First, I just want to know if you understand everything I said there very well or if there is any part of the below you don't really get? Ask anything you don't understand there, don't bring up other things yet o, just focus on the below and ask me to clarify where you don't understand my statements.






#1 NUMBER OF GOD
It is obvious that in order, God is the only Being who can be "First and Last/Beginning and Ending/Alpha and Omega" at the same time because he existed before every created thing and is the only One who will remain when he decides to end all existence.
The Simultaneous "First and Last" is a number only the Uncreated can have.

Isa 44:6 Thus saith YAHWEH, the King of Israel, and his Redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

We see here that YAHWEH, the God of Israel is "First and Last" and is the only true God. Follow me now.

Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, Who is, and Who was, and Who is to come, the Almighty

We see that God calls himself by this number, "First and Last" and also the "Who is, was and is to come". He further calls himself, the Almighty/Omnipotent (El-Shaddai), an OT title of YAHWEH. Angels are mighty, even Michael is very mighty but only YAHWEH is Almighty/Omnipotent. Now watch!

Rev 11:17-18 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, Who is and was and is to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned

We see here that it is the same YAHWEH Almighty who sits on the throne worshipped by the same title "Who is, was and is to come". So, comparing the OT text and also the two verses in the Apocalypse, It is clear that YAHWEH Almighty's number is "First and Last"

Now let us find out who is this YAHWEH Almighty, The First and Last, Who is, was and is to come?
In the beginning of the apocalypse, John meets with Jesus Christ, who introduces himself as

Rev 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last...
Rev 1:17-18 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

We see that this is Jesus Christ who was dead and resurrected. By his number here, "First and Last/Alpha and Omega/Beginning and Ending", we see that this same YAHWEH Almighty of OT and Jesus Christ of NT are one Being.






***These are two of my three questions.

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

2.) Jesus will judge the living and the dead and the same one is seated on the throne of God and the Lamb, as one Being with God receiving the worship of the elders.
Now with all the above, can any creature be worshipped besides God as Jesus was worshipped by the angels and all the elders fall on their faces and worship Jesus, the judge of the dead and living, even calling Him Almighty.?


3.) Does any creature have the single sovereign throne belonging to both Father and Lamb in one Being from which the river of life flows?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and the Lamb.

johnw47:


lie lie rozz, like i said, such a fool

and such a liar of course:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

you don't answer those simple questions asked you because you don't know the answers, laugh, oh most duh unintelligent one

DrLiveLogic:

Good girl. I'm happy you're a science core and I wouldn't mind knowing what part of science you specialize in.
Now then, just follow me on cruise mode and our jet will land safely. LMAO
You have passed the first test, I assume, understanding the three states of water.
Now just go through my 3 statements below. Don't answer the questions yet o. No need for that now.
First, I just want to know if you understand everything I said there very well or if there is any part of the below you don't really get? Ask anything you don't understand there, don't bring up other things yet o, just focus on the below and ask me to clarify where you don't understand my statements.
#1 NUMBER OF GOD
It is obvious that in order, God is the only Being who can be "First and Last/Beginning and Ending/Alpha and Omega" at the same time because he existed before every created thing and is the only One who will remain when he decides to end all existence.
The Simultaneous "First and Last" is a number only the Uncreated can have.
Isa 44:6 Thus saith YAHWEH, the King of Israel, and his Redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
We see here that YAHWEH, the God of Israel is "First and Last" and is the only true God. Follow me now.
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, Who is, and Who was, and Who is to come, the Almighty
We see that God calls himself by this number, "First and Last" and also the "Who is, was and is to come". He further calls himself, the Almighty/Omnipotent (El-Shaddai), an OT title of YAHWEH. Angels are mighty, even Michael is very mighty but only YAHWEH is Almighty/Omnipotent. Now watch!
Rev 11:17-18 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, Who is and was and is to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned
We see here that it is the same YAHWEH Almighty who sits on the throne worshipped by the same title "Who is, was and is to come". So, comparing the OT text and also the two verses in the Apocalypse, It is clear that YAHWEH Almighty's number is "First and Last"
Now let us find out who is this YAHWEH Almighty, The First and Last, Who is, was and is to come?
In the beginning of the apocalypse, John meets with Jesus Christ, who introduces himself as
Rev 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last...
Rev 1:17-18 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
We see that this is Jesus Christ who was dead and resurrected. By his number here, "First and Last/Alpha and Omega/Beginning and Ending", we see that this same YAHWEH Almighty of OT and Jesus Christ of NT are one Being.
***These are two of my three questions.
Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.
2Ti 4:1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;
2.) Jesus will judge the living and the dead and the same one is seated on the throne of God and the Lamb, as one Being with God receiving the worship of the elders.
Now with all the above, can any creature be worshipped besides God as Jesus was worshipped by the angels and all the elders fall on their faces and worship Jesus, the judge of the dead and living, even calling Him Almighty.?
3.) Does any creature have the single sovereign throne belonging to both Father and Lamb in one Being from which the river of life flows?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and the Lamb.

Rozz:
atleast help us with another verse,you keep recycling old verses

MuttleyLaff:
You're doing a very too good work DrLiveLogic. Oinn, fantabulous you kept me busy reading through all this morning, lmao.

Rozz:
Hes intelligent but concerning this, it's more of a spiritual guidance.

Rozz:
Hes intelligent but concerning this,it's more of a spiritual guidance.

Rozz:
atleast help us with another verse,you keep recycling old verses

MuttleyLaff:
You cracked me up yesterday, leaving me bursting out in laughter on the public walkway reading this comment and especially the last sentence above.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb8KZps4woA
Those arent brothers in the above video, that's one person, and it is Agent Smith, from the film Matrix
Just look at that kkins\25! Beautiful isnt it?
That's child play for God to do, meaning easy for God to do more than one place at the same time within the same dimension or multi dimension

kkins\25, did you see how Agent Smith was multiplying himself, by saying more, huh?
Did you watch him being in more than one place at the same time within the same dimension, hmm?
Is it far fetch or difficult to believe, that God can do more and better than multiplying Himself like done by Agent Smith, in that sci-fi film, erhn?
Is it something hard for God to, as well do, huh?

Maximus69:


Deeperlife nah!
Kumuyi is not here so they always feel the few quotes programmed in their skulls will be enough to woo followers for Kumuyi!

MuttleyLaff:
You're doing a very too good work DrLiveLogic. Oinn, fantabulous you kept me busy reading through all this morning, lmao. Those easy simple, harmless, straightforward and direct questions will prove the nemesis for any that has the balls to answer them in the same format and numbered up order you asked

Also when you asked what's your church/denomination, just know you had touched a raw nerve and whoever that asked has become uncomfortable, so why they insist to know, just to create a distraction, lmao

MuttleyLaff:
This is the beauty of breaking bread and sharing it in opened topics like as this one. Interlocutors bring along food, you eat with them on the table, chew the food but making sure not to swallow the bones but to spit them out, lol

... my position, is God is not a "not-known-number" of person. God, as a matter of fact then, is, x-person and so God, in effect is, ∞-persons, as in, meaning, God is infinite or infinity.

God is someone without any bound, without limit, without an end. God is the first and the last, God oxymoronically has no beginning and no end. God is someone bigger and larger than any specified number, even three or trinity. This means, dont put God in a box. It explains why God in His infinite wisdom didnt allow the the word trinity to be printed black and white kokoro out in the Bible, lol

Now going to what you referenced and about the point made by Biblespeaks when he laid bare Matthew 24:36. Well, you've likely, often heard it said, if you want something done right, you have to do it yourself. Something to be done right is exactly what it's all about and so what God did. This is a matter of the classsic diy aka Do-It-Yourself.

God, can send Himself on an errand, and did send Himself to earth, in the form of Jesus Christ because God simultaneously can be in more than one place at a time (i.e. God can be in Heaven and on earth, at the same time) Note that, Jesus didnt correct people that addressed Him as God, for example, where and when said: "My Lord, My God" to Him

Christ cannot share the same body with God the father, because God is formless. God has no clear definite shape or size. Jesus Christ is the product of God projecting Himself as a human being in the person of Jesus Christ on earth. Jesus Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. Why does Jesus Christ need to be a human being on earth?. Fundamentally, it is because one needs a human body to lawfully and have a permitted way to legally operate on earth. God is not going to be a law breaker and be breaking Genesis 1:26-28

Now, though Jesus is God, He did not think of equality with God, as something to cling to. Instead, He gave up his divine privileges. He took the humble position of a servant and was born as a human being, and so God appeared on earth, in human form, as in, the person of Jesus Christ, God's Son, which means, it is a guarantee and not rocket science, that fathers will always know things that sons will have no idea or knowledge of.

This isnt news anymore

Rozz:
lol,now this is the real you. deeper life boy

TATIME:


The OP mentioned the name of a religious group that abhors trinity,and each of the religions trying to exhibit trinity has spoken different things.
So it's appropriate to ask "which church" a person belongs to ascertain where each speaker actually got his own definition!

DappaD:

“At least Trinitarians further exhibited their emptiness and lack of regard towards Jehovah God ” should be the better narrative.
Oga solite3 you are a confused and misinformed trinitarian, only that you have your own version of trinity . See what you said:

Are you lying to yourself or is DrLiveLogic lying to you?
After DrLiveLogic succeeded in confusing you the more, you went ahead to make the following statement:

Stick to what you know and stop being carried about here and there! Ephesians 4:14

Janosky:


SHAME ON YOU....
Na Photoshop graphics you dey parade for here.

You get cross inside your house and pyramids symbols dey your house and your Church.
Bros you are a hypocrite

Janosky:

A Person (Human person or Spirit person) is a Being.
1 Corinthians 15:40,44.There is a physical body (human beings- man, animals ) and a spiritual body (spirit beings-God, Angels, demons).

But triune pagan IDOL WORSHIPPERS TWIST it to sweeten their Trinity SCAM.