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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:20am On Jul 02, 2020
Ghana cedis and Zambia Kwacha are beyond help. They have done that since 1960s.
BeforeJuly:

brozay you seem not to grasp a thing in this argument.
what is the depreciation rate of the dollar to cedi?

do you know what it means for your currency to have depreciated at this extreme rate since 2007 when it was just re-denominated?

do you even know the future of the cedi?
it's on a continuous downward trajectory. wink

you must be kidding fam.

I'll let this die here after this. no time for this back and forth.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Dlonra(m): 7:21am On Jul 02, 2020
samorobo:


Shut up Kenya is a failed state .it funny to see how you pride yourself over hosting refugees from war torn shiithole....I am not trusting you, Kenya is a fradulent joke of a failed state..live with that and avoid your delusions

Kenya Cannot be Failed cause it houses tans of Nigerian Migrants flocking in as they escape Nigeria grin grin grin
If we were South Africans thousands of Nigerians could have gone through hell.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:23am On Jul 02, 2020
Nonsense. Lagos state GDP is 33B dollars - including Lagos Slumpolis - even with cookery that is Nigeria's GDP - according to these guys - Lagos State GDP is about 50B as of 2017
https://medium.com/kingmakers/how-we-projected-the-gdp-for-states-in-nigeria-5ccc5e2c85f7
BeforeJuly:

ok I'll put it in the simplest of terms cos I see you're rearing to go.

GDP is obviously the value of all goods and services produced within the borders of a State right? ok cool.

Kenya's GDP >>> $89bn (pop. 51m)
Lagos GDP >>> $130bn (pop. 20m)

does this shorten your understanding curve?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Dlonra(m): 7:27am On Jul 02, 2020
Samorobo2:


Oh shut up and honour to gullible Kenyans or better still feed that to Adhoboy....
This is a permanent building, built with concrete and keep expanding...Guess what, it is a slum in Nairobi...A legal integrated slumpolis.....
As a nairobian you either live in Westland(parkland, south b ,south C, and killimani included)Karen,CBD, upperhill,Langata or you live in places like this or Roysambu, Eastleigh, Zimmerman...and worse off you end up in kibera, . Mathare, kwangware.

Most Nairobians live in the metropolitan areas like Kiambu, Kajiado & Machakos. It's also funny you mentioned Roysambu a Nigerian migrant neighborhood grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by BeforeJuly: 7:29am On Jul 02, 2020
Dlonra:


Kenya Houses the Largest IDP Camps in Africa & borders one of the most dangerous countries in Africa but still allow them to coexist in Kenya.
refugees are different from free roaming foreigners.
it's almost like you're obligated to do it cos most of the humanitarian agencies are sited there.
Nigeria is probably the worst positioned country in Africa too. we are surrounded entirely by french colonies who always subtly undermine Nigerian efforts. Nigeria handles more diplomatic brouhaha than most african countries too.

Dlonra:

When Nairobi is Bombed by extremists from Somalia Kenyans don't go killing Somalis.
at least I can give you that.
also many Boko Haram members are chadians and Nigeriens.

Dlonra:

We've got one of the Most diverse African Population. We've also got Nigerians & a Nigerian neighborhood called Roysambu.
Nigeria probably has a migration issue that we literally don't know.
I see east africans in eat africa.
a Kenyan family came to my neighbors house for Christmas holidays 4 years ago.
foreigner numbers aren't just pronounced cos we're still overwhelmed by our large population and no one would notice any foreigner that isn't white.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:31am On Jul 02, 2020
BeforeJuly:

ok I'll put it in the simplest of terms cos I see you're rearing to go.

GDP is obviously the value of all goods and services produced within the borders of a State right? ok cool.

Kenya's GDP >>> $89bn (pop. 51m)
Lagos GDP >>> $130bn (pop. 20m)

does this shorten your understanding curve?
Lagos gdp isn't $130bn
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 7:38am On Jul 02, 2020
jln115:
Lagos gdp isn't $130bn

I’m pretty sure it is and if it isn’t it is at best 96 billion dollars, no lower than that otherwise your lying
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:41am On Jul 02, 2020
Abohboy:


I’m pretty sure it is and if it isn’t it is at best 96 billion dollars, no lower than that otherwise your lying
give me a source which states its 130 billion then I'll believe you..... But sources at hand put Lagos state gdp at 96 billion as you said
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:51am On Jul 02, 2020
It has to be higher than Kenya; Slumpolis need to massage it's huge ego.
Abohboy:


I’m pretty sure it is and if it isn’t it is at best 96 billion dollars, no lower than that otherwise your lying
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:57am On Jul 02, 2020
So Nigeria claims to have 50% of it's population living in urban areas. That is 100M people. Lagos unofficially host 20m (officially census only counted 8M their last census). Those who actually voted in last presidential election were less than 2m...less than Nairobi voters.

Now how can rest of Nigeria faked GDP of 400B - hosting 80M urban nigeria - be worth way less than Lagos Slumpolis.

And there is nothing "special" that Lagos has - compared to other Nigeria cities and towns. It all the same urban sprawl of low key integrated mixed housing .

jln115:
give me a source which states its 130 billion then I'll believe you..... But sources at hand put Lagos state gdp at 96 billion as you said

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 8:03am On Jul 02, 2020
rvp2018:
It has to be higher than Kenya; Slumpolis need to massage it's huge ego.
Shut up.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 8:05am On Jul 02, 2020
rvp2018:
So Nigeria claims to have 50% of it's population living in urban areas. That is 100M people. Lagos unofficially host 20m (officially census only counted 8M their last census). Those who actually voted in last presidential election were less than 2m...less than Nairobi voters.

Now how can rest of Nigeria faked GDP of 400B - hosting 80M urban nigeria - be worth way less than Lagos Slumpolis.

And there is nothing "special" that Lagos has - compared to other Nigeria cities and towns. It all the same urban sprawl of low key integrated mixed housing .


Really, your nonsensical rants do nothing for anyone the last presidential election there were 27 million votes in total, but it had the lowest turnout ever in history of Nigeria. So why do you expect the number To be big I’m not sure what your trying to say, but Lagos is not like other cities in Nigeria, it has ports, headquarters of lots of companies the largest airport in Nigeria, soon to have the largest rice mill in Africa as well. Whatever your trying to say make it make sense.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:05am On Jul 02, 2020
Now I won't. So Nigeria GDP is Lagos (1/3 or 1/4 depending on the source), Agriculture (1/4 to 1/3 depending on criteria) and Oil. I guess the rest of Nigeria cities and towns simply don't exists.

Nigerians are funny people.

Abohboy:

Shut up.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:09am On Jul 02, 2020
27M voted nationally. In Kenya 19M I think voted. Our population is 47m - and yours nearly 200m. Nairobi county had about 2m votes. Lagos state 1.1m. Your Lagos governor got less votes than Nairobi governor.

Stop cooking figures. Lagos is only 20M from Lagos state stats estimates- from a governor elected by 700,000 people - with his competitor at 200K. Nairobi governor Sonko got 1M - and his competitor also 1m votes.

Lagos 20M figures like Nigeria population figures are grossly exaggerated. Census found out only about 8M people in the entire Lagos state.

Now talking of largest port - Mombasa has bigger port than two ports of Lagos. Nairobi JKIA handle more passengers and aircraft that Lagos airport.

None of them claim to be 100B GDP based on that alone.

What does Lagos generate? It's manufacturing sector is nothing to write home about?

The same state gov have come up with grossly exaggerated GDP figures of 136B dollar


Abohboy:


Really, your nonsensical rants do nothing for anyone the last presidential election there were 27 million votes in total, but it had the lowest turnout ever in history of Nigeria. So why do you expect the number To be big I’m not sure what your trying to say, but Lagos is not like other cities in Nigeria, it has ports, headquarters of lots of companies the largest airport in Nigeria, soon to have the largest rice mill in Africa as well. Whatever your trying to say make it make sense.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 8:13am On Jul 02, 2020
jln115:

Bro your Country is a sh1thole that can barely compare with Lagos............ [s]yet you want to lecture us, saying we are Zim waiting to happen? Bro our constitution is one of the best in the world, our economy is diverse, our Banking sector is as solid as a rock, our reserve bank is independent and doing exactly what it should, the JSE is growing every year............Regardless of what you think SA is never going to end up like Zim!

Also Government is failing to create jobs and to grow the economy.........kicking out Whites is only going to cause more poverty as now more people are going to be without jobs....the role of a Government is to protect all its citizens, not just one racial group!!

And great Kenya kicked out Whites and Indians.....and guess what, its a massive sh1thole, compared to SA where Black SAns are earning 5 times more than Kenyans are[/s]

Remember this?

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 8:14am On Jul 02, 2020
rvp2018:
27M voted nationally. In Kenya 19M I think voted. Our population is 47m - and yours nearly 200m. Nairobi county had about 2m votes. Lagos state 1.1m. Your Lagos governor got less votes than Nigeria governor.

Stop cooking figures.

Now talking of largest port - Mombasa has bigger port than two ports of Lagos. Nairobi JKIA handle more passengers and aircraft that Lagos airport.

None of them claim to be 100B GDP based on that alone.

What does Lagos generate? It's manufacturing sector is nothing to write home about?


I’m not going to argue with you about any of this, Lagos produces a lot of things through it’s manufacturing sector cars, plastic bags, plastic cups, phones, smart cards, ID cards, credit cards, shoes, slippers, juice, chocolate, you name it. And it’s not like other Nigerian states don’t produce anything, akwa ibom State has a gdp of 13 billion dollars, and they have the largest coconut oil refinery in Africa, largest syringe factory in Africa, one of the largest electricity meter factories in Africa and one of the largest plywood factories in Africa as well. And as soon as they build their port which will be larger than Mombasa port, their gdp could grow even larger. But of course you will just say wet dreams so this is just a waste time.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:18am On Jul 02, 2020
Akwa Ibom - I can believe their figures - 13B dollars - when producing 0.5m barrels of Oil daily make SENSE.

Lagos state cooks figures better than Yemi Kale does in Abuja. They cooked their population to 20m. They cook their gdp estimates. LAGOS governor won 75% of the vote - 0.7M votes grin grin grin. He cannot tell Nairobi governor or his competitor anything.

Lagos has no manufacturing worth anything; it would be exporting a lot of stuff - and Nigeria won't be importing nearly everything.

You're in stage 1 of manufacturing - doing import substitution of agricultural goods.

The laughable stuff you describe about smart cards syringes - just show how backward Nigeria is! Those are basic stuff that are done in any decent city.

Abohboy:

I’m not going to argue with you about any of this, Lagos produces a lot of things through it’s manufacturing sector cars, plastic bags, plastic cups, phones, smart cards, ID cards, credit cards, shoes, slippers, juice, chocolate, you name it. And it’s not like other Nigerian states don’t produce anything, akwa ibom State has a gdp of 13 billion dollars, and they have the largest coconut oil refinery in Africa, largest syringe factory in Africa, one of the largest electricity meter factories in Africa and one of the largest plywood factories in Africa as well. And as soon as they build their port which will be larger than Mombasa port, their gdp could grow even larger. But of course you will just say wet dreams so this is just a waste time.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 8:23am On Jul 02, 2020
jln115:
so kikuyu1 was wrong when he said Europeans are Neanderthal descendants ?

Well he cited his sources on the effects of those Neanderthal genes... Which won't be wrong as they've been linked to cause a number of disorders but still they imparted a good number of advantages for example, lightskin & a relatively thicker blood which allowed you guys to survive the northern winter.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:28am On Jul 02, 2020
Justnotyou:


Well he cited his sources on the effects of those Neanderthal genes... Which won't be wrong as they've been linked to cause a number of disorders but still they imparted a good number of advantages for example, lightskin & a relatively thicker blood which allowed you guys to survive the northern winter.
Ok then so if Europeans have Neanderthal genes and East Africans have 25% European genes doesn't that mean Kikuyus(who are E.African) also have Neanderthal genes?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:29am On Jul 02, 2020
Justnotyou:


Remember this?
Fair enough..........but was I wrong though? Lagos does have a bigger GDP than Kenya.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 8:32am On Jul 02, 2020
BeforeJuly:

ok I'll put it in the simplest of terms cos I see you're rearing to go.

GDP is obviously the value of all goods and services produced within the borders of a State right? ok cool.

Kenya's GDP >>> $89bn (pop. 51m)
Lagos GDP >>> $130bn (pop. 20m)

does this shorten your understanding curve?

grin from before July I suspect huh... Well we're in July & Lagos nominal gdp has yet to come close to half of Kenya's. Even when we compare the gdp ppp's like most of you guys prefer it's not any better.

I suggest you get yourself up to speed. Economy isn't necessarily pegged solely on gdp.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:33am On Jul 02, 2020
Lagos only have bigger GDP than Kenya in your dreams.
jln115:
Fair enough..........but was I wrong though? Lagos does have a bigger GDP than Kenya.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 8:33am On Jul 02, 2020
jln115:
Fair enough..........but was I wrong though? Lagos does have a bigger GDP than Kenya.

Sources please.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:37am On Jul 02, 2020

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 8:37am On Jul 02, 2020
rvp2018:
Lagos only have bigger GDP than Kenya in your dreams.

They mostly compare their respective ppp's to kenyas nominal gdp & spit all over our faces with their ignorance. Even guateng in 2020 doesn't have a higher gdp compared to Kenya's GDP.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 8:38am On Jul 02, 2020

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:41am On Jul 02, 2020
They just like repeating popular lies in their countries bereft of any interrogation.
Justnotyou:

They mostly compare their respective ppp's to kenyas nominal gdp & spit all over our faces with their ignorance. Even guateng in 2020 doesn't have a higher gdp compared to Kenya's GDP.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 8:42am On Jul 02, 2020
jln115:
Gdp of Kenya is $89 Billion and Lagos state over $90billion........

https://qz.com/africa/676819/lagos-is-africas-7th-largest-economy-and-is-about-to-get-bigger-with-its-first-oil-finds/

Last I checked we're on 2020, & that's Lagos ppp not nominal gdp. Still Kenya has the 6th largest gdp in Africa meaning they still can't measure up being the 7th largest eCoNomY.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:43am On Jul 02, 2020
Anybody can write any nonsense in Quora. Lagos state generate 1.3B dollars internal revenues. Kenya with less than 100B dollars GDP generate 21b dollar revenues. You want to compare the two. Don't reason like a Neanderthal.

Lagos state like every Nigeria state spew all sort of propaganda including declaring their economy the 7th in Africa.

jln115:


https://qz.com/africa/676819/lagos-is-africas-7th-largest-economy-and-is-about-to-get-bigger-with-its-first-oil-finds/

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 8:45am On Jul 02, 2020
jln115:
Ok then so if Europeans have Neanderthal genes and East Africans have 25% European genes doesn't that mean Kikuyus(who are E.African) also have Neanderthal genes?

0.3% never beyond 1% hence the effects are greatly diminished, that's why kikuyus & other East Africans aren't as pale compared to Eurasians.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 9:07am On Jul 02, 2020
Dlonra:




1. Google
2. Coca cola
3. Facebook
4. Toyota
5. Scania
6. Samsung
7. Avic international
8. Asus
9. Airtel
10. BBC
11. CGTN
12. IBM
13. Kasperaky
14. LG
15. Nokia
16. Sony
17. World Bank Africa HQ
18. IMF
19. Mitsubishi Africa
20. United Nations HQ.

These are some of the international companies & organizations with Continental Headquarters in Nairobi. Some serve as HQs for both Africa & the Middle East.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_and_organizations_based_in_Nairobi
Nairobi is the Silicon Savannah of Africa. A Giant tech hub.

Do more research

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:13am On Jul 02, 2020
rvp2018:
We don't appear to be doing well - we are doing well - pictures and videos speak for themselves. That is why we buried Nigeria long time ago. You cannot compete with our cities and of course our rural areas. Our slums are better than your slums because they at least have basic amenities.
If there is one basic thing this thread has done, it is to expose Kenya's lies to the world. For generations you have lied about your data and put forward a front as a tourist haven. But now we know you are not only poor but starving and dominated by slums. And that your economy is far smaller than it is. My boy, Kenya is the worse country on this thread.

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