Austine1213:


The people are being moved into formal housing as we speak

Pictures please.

Google Maps is online. Thank you. Just tell me what you're doing to addressing the growing slum problem in your cities. 1.2M out of 3.7M residents is the figure I have gotten.

Austine1213:


I can show you a map of Capetown

Rvp has run with his tail between his legs, after I posted the evidence. Kenya’s gdp does not even compare to the income of a single tiny state in Nigeria, which will soon have a larger more efficient port, more factories, larger refineries, better transport, better housing than the whole of Kenya,

rvp2018:
Unlike Kenya towns and cities - South Africa is creating brand new slums every day - as more and more people are driven into poverty. But now you want to engage in childish debate comparing Nairobi with your brand new slums.

Kibera and all Nairobi slums were all started in 80s - by Sudanese Nubians who found themselves illegals in Kenya - and there is rarely any new slum you'll see.

Look at your brand new slums - in few years - Joburg, Capetown and name them will be sprawling slums. Already 1/3 of cape-town are slum dwellers - and the numbers are increasing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOgYkE4W0Y4

From a middle class country to third world country.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19VGE204Mt4

Lol Kenya telling other African countries about slum..most especially SA...

Lol you are an IRREDEEMABLE fool....Kenya is a shiithole and you shouldn't project that in others .

Dlonra:
Tatu City residential apartments taking taking shape.

Tatu estate taking shape with about 20 red and cream building..smh..

All African countries have estate

Justnotyou:


The numbers are sane enough to be believable. But you're not necessarily using the right base or even the right growth rate.

I have even been generous with the rates I used. Kenya can not be growing at 4% while unemployment is growing. Not possible.

Dlonra:


I suppose you are still stressed with the hard facts I've been spitting. Even if I go quiet. Google will still hit you with facts as Kenya's economy grows at a rate of 6% while Nigeria almost -1.

What a fool..tell me the last time Kenya met a projected growth of 6% pre-covid19...As far as I know Kenya never meets any projected growth from IMF it WB while Nigeria on the other hand has always defied IMF and World bank projections and grow past their projected figures .

As for this year just forget growth..you are doing -2%...can we take a bet on that..

Dlonra:


Kenya Cannot be Failed cause it houses tans of Nigerian Migrants flocking in as they escape Nigeria
If we were South Africans thousands of Nigerians could have gone through hell.

Lol kenya us a failed state..I advice you stick to this thread more oftenly instead of taking your time+like 2 days) to reply me like I am some god ;r better still start reading this thread from page 1 and before you hit page 100 you would be weeping for your zoo ..you could even start from more recent discussion like early this year if you are soonlaxy to read up 8,000 + pages
.

Dlonra:


Kenya Cannot be Failed cause it houses tans of Nigerian Migrants flocking in as they escape Nigeria
If we were South Africans thousands of Nigerians could have gone through hell.

And this are not Nigerians..can you prove it..


Look we are not Tanzanians whom your media go out to demonize..we will just end your nation in a blink..

Dlonra:


Most Nairobians live in the metropolitan areas like Kiambu, Kajiado & Machakos. It's also funny you mentioned Roysambu a Nigerian migrant neighborhood

Stupid talk..go ask around ..Nigeria neighbourhood is Karen, tours and other top presentable environment...I guess you don't know Nigerians are the backbone of your dwindling real estate sector..

rvp2018:
Kindergarten math's.

2015 - 64B - when this thread started
2016 - 69B
2017 - 79B
2018 -88B
2019 - 96B
And we will get 2020 results next year.

Now you can argue until you turn blue but Kenya is progressing very fast.

Maths has always been a problem for you.
If you start with $64bn in 2015, and let's assume that by all means you grew at 6%() That's going to give you $67.8bn and not $69bn!
Besides thread started in 2016 not 2015.
And your GDP in 2016 according to you was $50bn. Do you want me to show you? It's barely one hour ago when you said so. It's just noon in kibera and you are already high on glue.

You can prove to us that 1/3 of cape-town residents don't live in slums. Your country is generating poverty because like Nigeria it last GREW at a rate higher than the population last decade...

But don't give up....Nigeria is manufacturing poverty at an industrial scale. South Africa will generate new slums - unless you figure out how to
1) grow the economy -
2) generates jobs (30-40% unemployment) - and
3) give the poor blacks land back in rural areas to cultivate.

Austine1213:


Lol you do realise i got nothing to prove to you right

GDP growth is compounded. Secondly in 2016 - we were discussing GDP of 2015. GDP of kenya now is about 100B - based on Q1 figures - but we are talking about 2019 data. We will know kenya GDP figures for 2020 - next year around April. Kenya gov stats will start data collection in Jan-Feb and crunch the numbers for 2020.

It's funny when an idiot like you act like he knows anything.

obaaderemi:
Maths has always been a problem for you.
If you start with $64bn in 2015, and let's assume that by all means you grew at 6%() That's going to give you $67.8bn and not $69bn!
Besides thread started in 2016 not 2015.
And your GDP in 2016 according to you was $50bn. Do you want me to show you? It's barely one hour ago when you said so. It's just noon in kibera and you are already high on glue.

jln115:
give me a source which states its 130 billion then I'll believe you..... But sources at hand put Lagos state gdp at 96 billion as you said

As at 2018 IMF/WB said it $136bn

Nigerians live in Umoja and Pipelines - 10 guys in one room. They pay rent like Nigerians - per year or two years. Something unheard of in Kenya.

Samorobo2:


Stupid talk..go ask around ..Nigeria neighbourhood is Karen, tours and other top presentable environment...I guess you don't know Nigerians are the backbone of your dwindling real estate sector..

rvp20182:
You can prove to us that 1/3 of cape-town residents don't live in slums. Your country is generating poverty because like Nigeria it last GREW at a rate higher than the population last decade...

But don't give up....Nigeria is manufacturing poverty at an industrial scale. South Africa will generate new slums - unless you figure out how to
1) grow the economy -
2) generates jobs (30-40% unemployment) - and
3) give the poor blacks land back in rural areas to cultivate.

This is funny ....why has Kenyan not done any of this things to stop the rapidly ballooning slum...i mean SA is not the country with about 70% of her entire urban population.in informal settlements (slums)....so there goes your argument...
Since 2003 you've been singing your slum upgraded program yet all you have to show for it is 30 buildings in kibera against the booming urban population...

Nonsense. Lagos State generates 1.3B dollars as annual revenues. GDP estimates are estimates. Kenya generates 21B dollars revenues.

If we had time we could compare Nairobi (not kenya) industries with Lagos...and see what a mess it really is.

Abohboy:
Rvp has run with his tail between his legs, after I posted the evidence. Kenya’s gdp does not even compare to the income of a single tiny state in Nigeria, which will soon have a larger more efficient port, more factories, larger refineries, better transport, better housing than the whole of Kenya,

rvp20182:
Nigerians live in Umoja and Pipelines - 10 guys in one room. They pay rent like Nigerians - per year or two years. Something unheard of in Kenya.

Umoja is not Karen..get the difference...
I do think have to school you about locations in your city now do I?

theenchanter:
ilubirin is on lagos island, though reclaimed from d lagoon but it sits on d left side a few meter after dropping off d 3rd mainland bridge..... And anything after d 3mb is lagos island, from adeniji adele down to obalende, marina to cms.

Ikoyi was never on the same Island as Lagos Island. Ikoyi was originally a different island before development meant land were reclaimed until the two merged. Lagos Island stopped at Obalende. It was the same way Victoria Island merged with Lekki after the swamp region between them were filled up to link the two. It doesn't stopped them been two different ones. And the same thing applies to Banana Island. Link is provided for transit betwwen two regions but in this case instead of building bridges, they built roads 'cause that's cheaper and as each develops, the roads started getting buildings around them hence the reason why you think they are the same Island. They are never.
As it's going, the numerous new land acquisitions from the sea we have today, (diamon, periwinkles, kings, orange, iibc, gracefields, etc) would suffer the same fate in future because they are joined to another Island by roads. Only one unlikely to get down this route is the Snake Island, because it has no such link despite been between two other islands and the Mainland. The only way to get to it is the sea. Read the history and study the map.
As for Ilubinrin, it's at the base of the Adeniji end of third mainland bridge. The project at Oworonshoki Samorobo was talking about is being developed without being publicized. I don't think many has seen the renders even but I hope it's going to be another fantastic project for Lagos economy and for the faster development of the region. There's another, perhaps being developed around the axis by a church, I think, at the edge of Ifako-Ogudu link bridge. The reclamation had already been completed (or almost completed at worst) but no one knew who is on the project and what the render looks like. People only guess it's the project of the nearby church.

Nigeria should be the last people to talk about slums

rvp2018:
27M voted nationally. In Kenya 19M I think voted. Our population is 47m - and yours nearly 200m. Nairobi county had about 2m votes. Lagos state 1.1m. Your Lagos governor got less votes than Nairobi governor.

Stop cooking figures. Lagos is only 20M from Lagos state stats estimates- from a governor elected by 700,000 people - with his competitor at 200K. Nairobi governor Sonko got 1M - and his competitor also 1m votes.

Lagos 20M figures like Nigeria population figures are grossly exaggerated. Census found out only about 8M people in the entire Lagos state.

Now talking of largest port - Mombasa has bigger port than two ports of Lagos. Nairobi JKIA handle more passengers and aircraft that Lagos airport.

None of them claim to be 100B GDP based on that alone.

What does Lagos generate? It's manufacturing sector is nothing to write home about?

The same state gov have come up with grossly exaggerated GDP figures of 136B dollar

Lagos GDP should be $140bn now...argue with your ancestors or Kenya should buckle up and compete with Lagos...your choice mate..

forgiveness:



Shma see what shacks took like.

Yours are shanties.

Now you're a south African? Defend your poor poverty capital.

Kenya is doing wonderful - we lifted nearly 1/4 of our population out of poverty last decade.

https://www.nation.co.ke/kenya/business/wb-says-10m-out-of-poverty-in-the-past-one-decade-in-a-decade-96030
Kenya lifted 9.82 million people out of poverty between 2005 and 2016, even as millions more languished in abject want, a new report by the World Bank shows.

The bulk of the people who recorded an upward change in fortunes during the decade was a result of an improved economy which grew at an average of 5.3 per cent, significantly above the 4.9 per cent average for sub-Saharan Africa.

“The share of the population living below the national poverty line fell from 46.8 per cent in 2005/06 to 36.1 per cent in 2015/16, reflecting a modest but sustained improvement in living standards over the decade,” says the Kenya Gender and Poverty Assessment 2015/16 report by the Bretton Woods firm.

“However, Kenya’s poverty rate is roughly twice the average for lower-middle-income countries worldwide.”

The poverty line denotes those living on less than $1.90 or (Sh191.88) per day.

Samorobo2:


This is funny ....why has Kenyan not done any of this things to stop the rapidly ballooning slum...i mean SA is not the country with about 70% of her entire urban population.in informal settlements (slums)....so there goes your argument...
Since 2003 you've been singing your slum upgraded program yet all you have to show for it is 30 buildings in kibera against the booming urban population...

Shma:
Nigeria should be the last people to talk about slums

Nope it's Kenya...go on the net..slum is constantly being associated with Kenya..

Maybe 2 or 3 oil barons - and drug dealers - afford Karen - the rest of Nigerians - live in Roysambu, Umoja and Nairobi metro. These are information you can easily google.

Samorobo2:


Umoja is not Karen..get the difference...
I do think have to school you about locations in your city now do I?

rvp20182:
Now you're a south African? Defend your poor poverty capital.

Kenya is doing wonderful - we lifted nearly 1/4 of our population out of poverty last decade.

https://www.nation.co.ke/kenya/business/wb-says-10m-out-of-poverty-in-the-past-one-decade-in-a-decade-96030
Kenya lifted 9.82 million people out of poverty between 2005 and 2016, even as millions more languished in abject want, a new report by the World Bank shows.

The bulk of the people who recorded an upward change in fortunes during the decade was a result of an improved economy which grew at an average of 5.3 per cent, significantly above the 4.9 per cent average for sub-Saharan Africa.

“The share of the population living below the national poverty line fell from 46.8 per cent in 2005/06 to 36.1 per cent in 2015/16, reflecting a modest but sustained improvement in living standards over the decade,” says the Kenya Gender and Poverty Assessment 2015/16 report by the Bretton Woods firm.

“However, Kenya’s poverty rate is roughly twice the average for lower-middle-income countries worldwide.”

The poverty line denotes those living on less than $1.90 or (Sh191.88) per day.

Kenya should be the last person to lecture anyone on slum and it's even annoying you took it SA that has done overly well with infastructure and urban settlement..unless you have places in your zoo that can be compared and liken to Europe,US as seen in SA then just shut it....


Numerous report has it that Kenya slum population keeps growing rapidly and I am not surprised..your govt has don't absolutely nothing in providing housing for the common man coupled with fact that lands are even too expensive for and average income earner to buy a plot and build his own little home...what happen when the average earner is laid off from works as constantly seen in Kenya corporate world...he goes back to slum cos he is not getting the constant income to even sustain continuity of his monthly rent.....
What of those that are less than the average earner..what happens when they can't also sustain themselves In Eastleigh...dude their next journey is kibera or Mathare or kwangware..you name it..

rvp20182:
Maybe 2 or 3 oil barons - and drug dealers - afford Karen - the rest of Nigerians - live in Roysambu, Umoja and Nairobi metro. These are information you can easily google.

It's not two or three..it's 98% of Nigerian pop in Kenyan..

rvp2018:
Akwa Ibom - I can believe their figures - 13B dollars - when producing 0.5m barrels of Oil daily make SENSE.

Lagos state cooks figures better than Yemi Kale does in Abuja. They cooked their population to 20m. They cook their gdp estimates. LAGOS governor won 75% of the vote - 0.7M votes . He cannot tell Nairobi governor or his competitor anything.

Lagos has no manufacturing worth anything; it would be exporting a lot of stuff - and Nigeria won't be importing nearly everything.

You're in stage 1 of manufacturing - doing import substitution of agricultural goods.

The laughable stuff you describe about smart cards syringes - just show how backward Nigeria is! Those are basic stuff that are done in any decent city.

According to IMF/WB report as at 2018 Lagos GDP was pegged at $136bn..now it's should be $140...argue with your ancestors or let Kenya as a Nation compete with Lagos a city..

rvp2018:
Anybody can write any nonsense in Quora. Lagos state generate 1.3B dollars internal revenues. Kenya with less than 100B dollars GDP generate 21b dollar revenues. You want to compare the two. Don't reason like a Neanderthal.

Lagos state like every Nigeria state spew all sort of propaganda including declaring their economy the 7th in Africa.

Lagos state does not have Mwangi at the helm of her stats affair..don't be mistaken mate..

obaaderemi:
If there is one basic thing this thread has done, it is to expose Kenya's lies to the world. For generations you have lied about your data and put forward a front as a tourist haven. But now we know you are not only poor but starving and dominated by slums. And that your economy is far smaller than it is. My boy, Kenya is the worse country on this thread.

Mwangi institute of stati-fraud and forgery

obaaderemi:
He is not familiar with Lagos island.

He is probably familiar with balogun.

jln115:

Lagos state has a bigger GDP than Kenya.......that's the facts, deal with it mate

Lol,lol,lol..facts are stubborn...
He said it himself..