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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 9:58am On Jul 04, 2020
When did you exit the HIPC?
vankelvin:
Even if Ghana decides to beg to be part of HIPC they will refuse Us.
I don't know where you got all these ideas from, ''Ghana heavily indebted'' waaw grin grin


Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 9:59am On Jul 04, 2020
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Funny one,
You think all ranking starts and end with railway abi? grin grin

Kazikazi:
Why do u wanna compare yourself with a big boy (TZ)??

By the way,let's see your railway first. How many kilometers in total you have? How many are SGR? How many are electrified?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:00am On Jul 04, 2020
Yes, it interesting. I don't know if you can formalize by "force" or by nature? Kagame is trying to formalize by degree - even boda boda are now under heavy regulation including trip meters.
Justnotyou:


Not a well thought out decision unless it was to simply discourage economic migrants from neighbouring countries. He needs to setup some major hypermarket chains & a matured delivery system to turn those hawkers into suppliers to fill up the gap. Hopefully it's only going to target Kigali.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Wizzzzmike: 10:01am On Jul 04, 2020
Kazikazi:
Why do u wanna compare yourself with a big boy (TZ)??

By the way,let's see your railway first. How many kilometers in total you have? How many are SGR? How many are electrified?

Dude stop with that loud mouth... Tanzania became a middle income country three days ago

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:01am On Jul 04, 2020
Any folk who wanna compare with TZ,must reach this density!

DA es salaam Tanzania

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 10:03am On Jul 04, 2020
Sorry I don't think any country is growing this year. Can you find a more authoritative of IMF GDP PPP projection - say in the IMF April World economic outlook
vankelvin:


Check the positions.
Where Ghana placed 3 years ago and where they estimate Ghana to be this year.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:05am On Jul 04, 2020
Wizzzzmike:


Dude stop with that loud mouth... Tanzania became a middle income country three days ago
That's where folks get it wrong. TZ became middle income ages ago! And mind you,we are yet to formalize the economy. TZ is second behind Ethiopia on the number of cattles in Africa. There are much much cash in TZ that's why Dar es salaam eons ahead of many cities in Africa.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:06am On Jul 04, 2020
Tztztz

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 10:08am On Jul 04, 2020
Waaw,
COVID19 only happened in Ghana I guess?
But you are right, your country has perform so abysmal when it comes to the management of Covid19.
Testing is an issue, Health facilities have not seen any better improvement, not much has been done by your Government to help the Citizens recover their losses so you right when you say Ghana cannot meet its targets.
because Government is giving
3 months free water and Electricity,
50% pay increase to all health Workers and taxes canceled from their pay as well,
Interest free loans to companies ETC

Justnotyou:


I think you mean the progress/leap Ghana was going to make. Sadly covid-19 happened, relaxation of revenue collection, free electricity & other services affected, including logistics. 2020 is indeed an interesting year for economists.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 10:09am On Jul 04, 2020
rvp20182:
Yes, it interesting. I don't know if you can formalize by "force" or by nature? Kagame is trying to formalize by degree - even boda boda are now under heavy regulation including trip meters.

We'll see how well it reflects in their growth, surely rural-urban migrations, slums & maybe tax compliance within Kigali would be significantly impacted.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 10:09am On Jul 04, 2020
THE BANTU MIGRATION FAIRY TALE FROM S NAIJ/CAMEROON VIA CONGO,FINALLY DEBUNKED 1!

The Learning Process never stop! Today we debunk once and for all the Bantu Migration fairy tale. Fyi,it was a colonial historiographer,US linguist,Joseph Greenberg who first came up with the theory. He's the same who invented the Afro-Asiatic language family to separate Kushites and Chadic speakers from Africa by pretending they're foreign immigrants. His theory goes Bantus,the majority of the African population,had nothing to do with any of the accepted cultures and civilizations in Egypt,Meroe,Napata,Kush,Axum and rusticated in the Cameroonian jungles until iron was invented around 2000 bc. The more adventurous Bantu then began crossing the massive impenetrable forest in 'small groups' over millennia until the continent was settled.

People still believe this ishyt and I'm putting a stop to it! The funny thing is Bantu migration stories have knowing to do with Cameroon or a Congo journey. Jan Vansina,a true researcher never believed in the Congo migration. His CV glitters with accomplishments!

Vansina was first trained as a medievalist and ethnographer but became known as one of the most prominent Africanist scholars. In his work, he focused on the history of African societies prior to European contact, and is widely regarded as the foremost authority on the history of the peoples of Central Africa. He published widely on the subject, including a landmark text on the factual interpretation oral history. On Vansina, historian David Beach writes, "In 1985, Jan Vansina's Oral Tradition as History provided a worldwide theoretical framework on oral tradition that rendered nearly all of its predecessors obsolete."[2]

Vansina obtained his doctorate in history from the Catholic University of Leuven in 1957. After his retirement in 1994,[3] he became a professor emeritus at the University of Wisconsin–Madison and lived in Madison, Wisconsin. Vansina died of lung cancer in Madison.[3]

Vansina assisted Alex Haley (the author of the 1976 novel Roots: The Saga of an American Family) in deciphering several African words that had been handed down from Haley's ancestors, determining that they were of Mandinka origin.[4][5]
Selected works

Vansina, Jan (1965). Oral Tradition. A Study in Historical Methodology (Translated from the French by H. M. Wright). London: Routledge & Kegan Paul.
Vansina, Jan (1966). Kingdoms of the Savanna. Madison: University of Wisconsin Press.
Vansina, Jan (1978). The Children of Woot. A History of the Kuba Peoples. Madison: University of Wisconsin Press.
Vansina, Jan (1985). Oral Tradition as History. Madison: University of Wisconsin Press.
Vansina, Jan (1990). Paths in the Rainforests. Madison: The University of Wisconsin Press.
Vansina, Jan (1994). Living With Africa. Madison: The University of Wisconsin Press.
Vansina, Jan (2004). Antecedents to Modern Rwanda: The Nyiginya Kingdom (Translated from the French by the author). Africa and the Diaspora series. Madison: University of Wisconsin Press.
Vansina, Jan (2004). How Societies Are Born: Governance in West Central Africa Before 1600. Charlottesville: University of Virginia Press.
Vansina, Jan (2010). Being Colonized: The Kuba Experience in Rural Congo, 1880-1960. Madison: University of Wisconsin Press.
Vansina, Jan (2014). Through the Day, through the Night. A Flemish Belgian Boyhood and World War II. Madison: University of Wisconsin Press.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Vansina

Almost all the Bantu people living in Kenya speak of a migration from up North. The people of Marachi location are known to have come from Elgon although other clans of the same group came from Egypt. They came in canoes on the River Nile as far as Juja, Uganda and later moved eastward into lake Victoria. They changed course until Asembo and separated with the Luo who walked along the lake shore but the rest crossed into South Nyanza. They then turned northwards and reached Butere and then moved on to Luanda and to Ekhomo. The Luo people were behind them right from Egypt.

The people of Samia location came from Egypt on foot. The Abakhekhe clan too originated from Egypt on foot. The Abachoni clan originally came from Egypt on foot. The people of Bukusu originally came from Egypt in canoes.

[url]http://www.kaa-umati.co.uk/Bantu%20in%20Ancient%20Egypt.htm[/url]

I rmbr we had a Luhyia poster,NairobiWalker who said as much.

Other sources report that the following Bantu people, the Luhya, Baganda, Nyarwanda, Rundi of Burindi, Kikuyu, and the Zulu all claim a southerly migration from Egypt. Moreover there are many groups of Bantu speakers from Tanzania, Mozambique, Congo, Zambia, Malawi, South Africa, who testify a southerly migration from Egypt. There are even groups of people from West Africa who migrated from Egypt into their present day location.



Apart from the oral traditions provided by Bantu elders, the evidence is also based on linguistic, historical, scientific and cultural studies done by Cheikh Anta Diop.



The following maps are taken from Alfred M M'Imanyara 'The Restatement of Bantu Origin and Meru History' published by Longman Kenya, ISBN 9966 49 832 x

Next,Niger-Congo speakers in unexpected places!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 10:12am On Jul 04, 2020
Go check it out yourself grin grin grin,,, How many years now??


rvp20182:
When did you exit the HIPC?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 10:13am On Jul 04, 2020
vankelvin:
Waaw,
COVID19 only happened in Ghana I guess?
But you are right, your country has perform so abysmal when it comes to the management of Covid19.
Testing is an issue, Health facilities have not seen any better improvement, not much has been done by your Government to help the Citizens recover their losses so you right when you say Ghana cannot meet its targets.
because Government is giving
3 months free water and Electricity,
50% pay increase to all health Workers and taxes canceled from their pay as well,
Interest free loans to companies ETC


You're quick to respond. Am not trying to belittle Ghanas progress but one still has to be sincere, do you seriously believe you'll grow by that much with the year being halfway done already?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 10:16am On Jul 04, 2020
Its good he is not allowing such things in Rwanda, before people start flooding Rwanda and all these ''social vices'' and slum settlement will spring-up all over Kigali. Kigame is a real gem.

rvp20182:
Yes, it interesting. I don't know if you can formalize by "force" or by nature? Kagame is trying to formalize by degree - even boda boda are now under heavy regulation including trip meters.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 10:20am On Jul 04, 2020
This question should be a general question,
not only for Ghana, so when you get it that way, you will know its possible even-though we will not be able to meet our projected targets same for every Country.

Justnotyou:


You're quick to respond. Am not trying to belittle Ghanas progress but one still has to be sincere, do you seriously believe you'll grow by that much with the year being halfway done already?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Saddamochieng00(m): 10:24am On Jul 04, 2020
Africa's most photographed house in Mlolongo Kenya

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 10:24am On Jul 04, 2020
Accra

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 10:27am On Jul 04, 2020
kikuyu1:

THE BANTU MIGRATION FAIRY TALE 1

The Learning Process never stop! Today we debunk once and for all the Bantu Migration fairy tale. Fyi,it was a colonial historiographer,US linguist,Joseph Greenberg who first came up with the theory. He's the same who invented the Afro-Asiatic language family to separate Kushites and Chadic speakers from Africa by pretending they're foreign immigrants. His theory goes Bantus,the majority of the African population,had nothing to do with any of the accepted cultures and civilizations in Egypt,Meroe,Napata,Kush,Axum and rusticated in the Cameroonian jungles until iron was invented around 2000 bc. The more adventurous Bantu then began crossing the massive impenetrable forest in 'small groups' over millennia until the continent was settled.

People still believe this ishyt and I'm putting a stop to it! The funny thing is Bantu migration stories have knowing to do with Cameroon or a Congo journey. Jan Vansina,a true researcher never believed in the Congo migration. His CV glitters with accomplishments!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Vansina



[url]http://www.kaa-umati.co.uk/Bantu%20in%20Ancient%20Egypt.htm[/url]

I rmbr we had a Luhyia poster,NairobiWalker who said as much.



Next,Niger-Congo speakers in unexpected places!

Since when were Luos bantu? Also I hope you do realise you're still supporting a Bantu migration just not one involving Cameroon.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisooblog: 10:28am On Jul 04, 2020
charlee you like looking for trouble where there is non. he said they are GOING to build not that it has been built. he never claimed the picture as being from nigeria. read his post again

vankelvin:


Officer man, what is Ghana picture doing in EKITI? grin grin grin grin grin Wonders.

This is Sagleme Housing Project in Ghana

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 10:29am On Jul 04, 2020
vankelvin:
This question should be a general question,
not only for Ghana, so when you get it that way, you will know its possible even-though we will not be able to meet our projected targets same for every Country.


Mmm
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 10:33am On Jul 04, 2020
So does it mean other Sub-Saharan African Countries cannot flex their muscles here or what?

Cos this whole debate is more like a thing between
South Africa
Nigeria
Kenya
Ghana and
Tanzania

where are the
Ethiopians
Ugandan's
Zambian's
Cameroonian's
Rwanda's ETC

Or this Debate is between the Men and not the boys?
Will like to hear for Zambians though, another loud Country just like Kenyan's grin grin grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Justnotyou: 10:35am On Jul 04, 2020
kikuyu1:

THE BANTU MIGRATION FAIRY TALE 1

The Learning Process never stop! Today we debunk once and for all the Bantu Migration fairy tale. Fyi,it was a colonial historiographer,US linguist,Joseph Greenberg who first came up with the theory. He's the same who invented the Afro-Asiatic language family to separate Kushites and Chadic speakers from Africa by pretending they're foreign immigrants. His theory goes Bantus,the majority of the African population,had nothing to do with any of the accepted cultures and civilizations in Egypt,Meroe,Napata,Kush,Axum and rusticated in the Cameroonian jungles until iron was invented around 2000 bc. The more adventurous Bantu then began crossing the massive impenetrable forest in 'small groups' over millennia until the continent was settled.

People still believe this ishyt and I'm putting a stop to it! The funny thing is Bantu migration stories have knowing to do with Cameroon or a Congo journey. Jan Vansina,a true researcher never believed in the Congo migration. His CV glitters with accomplishments!


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Vansina



[url]http://www.kaa-umati.co.uk/Bantu%20in%20Ancient%20Egypt.htm[/url]

I rmbr we had a Luhyia poster,NairobiWalker who said as much.



Next,Niger-Congo speakers in unexpected places!

According to Jan some Luo clans were assimilated by bantu groups which would be correct, she doesn't contradict or oppose the origin of bantus as a whole. It's also no secret bantus weren't & still aren't endogormous, intermarriages are culturally accepted.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 10:38am On Jul 04, 2020
chrisooblog:
charlee you like looking for trouble where there is non. he said they are GOING to build not that it has been built. he never claimed the picture as being from nigeria. read his post again

lol, common sense is not really common.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 10:42am On Jul 04, 2020
not common to you. cool cool

theenchanter:
lol, common sense is not really common.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 10:44am On Jul 04, 2020
Kumasi

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Wizzzzmike: 10:50am On Jul 04, 2020
Kazikazi:
That's where folks get it wrong. TZ became middle income ages ago! And mind you,we are yet to formalize the economy. TZ is second behind Ethiopia on the number of cattles in Africa. There are much much cash in TZ that's why Dar es salaam eons ahead of many cities in Africa.

Yeah yeah yeah talk is cheap everybody can say same about their city but facts is the real deal dude

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 10:52am On Jul 04, 2020
Kumasi

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:54am On Jul 04, 2020
rvp20182:
Sorry I don't think any country is growing this year. Can you find a more authoritative of IMF GDP PPP projection - say in the IMF April World economic outlook
Kenya GDP PPP was going to move from 191 billion dollars to 206 billion dollars this year but because of COVID, it wont happen

Ghana GDP PPP was going to move from 209 billion to 226 billion this year but because of COVID it might not get there.


Now shut up all of you and go back to your underdeveloped country
The Slum

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 10:55am On Jul 04, 2020
Kumasi

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 10:59am On Jul 04, 2020
Kumasi cool cool

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:03am On Jul 04, 2020
Lets wait for second-quarter economics figures

First quarter economic figures was strong at 4.9%
If second quarter figures come with a 3% growth despite the lockdown, then Ghana's economy might end up growing at 4-5% this year.

Justnotyou:


You're quick to respond. Am not trying to belittle Ghanas progress but one still has to be sincere, do you seriously believe you'll grow by that much with the year being halfway done already?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by popizaino(m): 11:25am On Jul 04, 2020
Mkenya2019:
The present day currencies are paper money. It's fiat money. It's no longer backed by gold reserves. It has no intrinsic value.
So a country can wake up and decide to print the "strongest" currency in the world - say 1000 dollar to 1cedis.
You give them like a few years - and that currency will be 1 dollar to 1000 cedis - if they allow it to operate in free exchange.
They can even go ahead - and forever peg it to a dollar - but that would require defending the currency against inflationary forces using forex reserves.

The cedis outside Ghana is useless. Worthless. What works outside our borders are global currencies - USD (the king), Euro, British Pound, Swiss Franc, maybe Japanese Yens and now the Yuan.

So for you to import anything - you'll need to buy dollars or any other global currency accepted. For you to fly abroad for education or medical need - you'll need to convert to dollars. For you (gov, individuals, companies) to repay international loans - you buy dollars.

So naturally the cedis will weaken - unless you're China or Saudi or Japans - with trillion dollars of forex reserve - and you can make your currency strong internally by keeping it weak internationally. This makes their stuff very cheap to import - leading to more forex - feeding the loop.

For the rest of us - if you try to defend your currency with your little forex reserves - you won't last long.

Maybe you can survive with your own rules if you live in Central Africa - with very little in international trade and business.

Therefore what is important for economy is A STABLE CURRENCY - this is part of the predictable environment that foster economic growth and sustainable development.

A stable currency is a currency that doesn't swing so much. A currency that stores values. Nobody want to wake up tomorrow like a zimbwean to find they now need 10 times the currency to buy a loaf of bread.

So you need a stable currency that doesn't depreciate or appreciate so fast against global currencies. Otherwise it will lead to inflation - price increases - will drive away investors - will generally lead to poverty.

The weakest africa currencies the last 60-70yrs without doubt is anything named Zimbwabwe, anything named KWACHA and anything named CEDIS.

This kind of negative feedback loop that plagues the CEDIS is hard to get out of - because many Ghanians and foreigners don't trust the cedis - so the economy become dollarized - people prefer to open dollar accounts - or to convert their cedis as quickly as possible to dollars - and try to store value. This leads to dollar strengthening...more dollar demands...more forex reserves are depleted. This weaken the cedis more.

Getting out of that rat hole is very very difficult. You should see Zimbwabweans now. It about getting people to trust PAPER MONEY.

GB am!
Say no more .
Just avoid arguing with blockheads

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