Hiswordxray:

I have been experiencing the same thing. I have never been able to listen to his message from start to finish. It just doesn't click

Wow! I thought I was the only one.

babajeje123:
I don't know why my mind has not been in agreement with him. I have a couple of his messages on my laptop but each time I listen, something is not just clicking. Time will reveal all things.

Because you already have your preconceptions.

Besides the fact that he is a wonderful preacher, Joshua Selman also has results. Amazing results.

John 14:11

ThothHermes:
Because you already have your preconceptions.

Besides the fact that he is a wonderful preacher, Joshua Selman also has results. Amazing results.

John 14:11

I don't have anything preconceived against him.

ThothHermes:
Because you already have your preconceptions.

Besides the fact that he is a wonderful preacher, Joshua Selman also has results. Amazing results.

John 14:11

Is this man your Jesus Christ that you would quote Jesus Christ's own words about the Himself as justification for your belief in this man?

Kobojunkie:
Is this man your Jesus Christ that you would quote Jesus Christ's own words about the Himself as justification for your belief in this man?

I would not take your words at face value. Your moniker has given you away.

Kobojunkie:
Is this man your Jesus Christ that you would quote Jesus Christ's own words about the Himself as justification for your belief in this man?

Oga swerve abeg.

babajeje123:

I don't have anything preconceived against him.

Maybe you should listen to some of his messages then.

What have you got to lose?

ThothHermes:
Oga swerve abeg.

By your reasoning, the apostles were wrong to have put down Bar Simon in the book of Acts since he, Bar simon, worked miracles for them all as well.
JOHN 14 vs 11, taken out of context, fits Him as well. Or does it only work because you want it to work in the case of this man?

ThothHermes:
Because you already have your preconceptions.

Besides the fact that he is a wonderful preacher, Joshua Selman also has results. Amazing results.

John 14:11

In fact, during that time I received high recommendation about him. People were talking about how good a preacher he is. I didn't even know him well enough to have a preconception about it. I just discovered that his message doesn't click with my spirit. I just cannot connect with it, it was just tasteless and empty to me. Till today I still struggling to listen to his message, it's just empty.

wow!! this is the first time I have seen anyone criticize the adorable man of God. I love Apostle and I truly believe he is a true man of God. This man has results and i'm a living testimony.

ThothHermes:
Maybe you should listen to some of his messages then.

What have you got to lose?

You don't get it, I have 5 of his 'powerful messages' on my computer but I don't connect with him each time I listen to them. This has been happening right before people started raising dust about him. See, we don't need to fight or argue or defend him as time is the revealer of all things.

I like his messages so much as a young man, his preaching has strong links to my problems. But the part of his messages that got me confuse was his message about the "mystery of the woman and the serpent" claiming not everyone is a pure human being, also not every person looking like a human being can be saved by Christ Jesus, some people are the seeds of the serpent, while some are of eve. he referred to the seeds of the serpent as the WITCHES the bible talks about. That there is another system of salvation for them, not Christianity.... SINCE THEN MY MIND WAS PARTIALLY PARALYSED.. I kept on pondering who are these people? Are some of them my friends and family members? Church members? Neighbors? .... My take is that KEEP THINGS AS SIMPLE AS POSSIBLE UNTIL CHRIST COMES... DON'T OVERDO ANYTHING, THE BIBLE IS COMPLETE, DONT ADD OR REMOVE ANY WORD OR EVEN A LETTER.

BenYeshua:
wow!! this is the first time I have seen anyone criticize the adorable man of God. I love Apostle and I truly believe he is a true man of God. This man has results and i'm a living testimony.

Witch doctor also have results and there are many living testimonies to it.

The occult have results, and those in it have their own testimonies.

Blood money also have result.

Witchcraft have results.

Mediums and Necromancer have result and King Saul was a testimony of it.

Should I continue to go on?

Kobojunkie:
By your reasoning, the apostles were wrong to have put down Bar Simon in the book of Acts since he, Bar simon, worked miracles for them all as well.
JOHN 14 vs 11, taken out of context, fits Him as well. Or does it only work because you want it to work in the case of this man?

Swerve, swerve, swerve abeg

TEsLABOY:
I like his messages so much as a young man, his preaching has strong links to my problems. But the part of messages that got me confuse was his message about the "mystery of the woman and the serpent" claiming not everyone is a pure human being, also not every person looking like a human being can be saved by Christ jesus, he referred to them as the witches the bible talks about. That there is another system of salvation for them, not Christianity.... SINCE THEN MY MIND WAS PARTIALLY PARALYSED

Partially?

ThothHermes:
Swerve, swerve, swerve abeg

Again, By your reasoning, the apostles were wrong to have put down Bar Simon in the book of Acts since he, Bar simon, worked miracles for them all as well.
JOHN 14 vs 11, taken out of context, fits Him as well. Or does it only work because you want it to work in the case of this man?

BenYeshua:
wow!! this is the first time I have seen anyone criticize the adorable man of God. I love Apostle and I truly believe he is a true man of God. This man has results and i'm a living testimony.

E shock me self ooo.

Kobojunkie:

Again, By your reasoning, the apostles were wrong to have put down Bar Simon in the book of Acts since he, Bar simon, worked miracles for them all as well.
JOHN 14 vs 11, taken out of context, fits Him as well. Or does it only work because you want it to work in the case of this man?

Keep swerving...

ThothHermes:
Keep swerving...

Why? You can pull another verse out of context?

babajeje123:

You don't get it, I have 5 of his 'powerful messages' on my computer but I don't connect with him each time I listen to them. This has been happening right before people started raising dust about him. See, we don't need to fight or argue or defend him as time is the revealer of all things.

No wahala. To each his own.

Hiswordxray:

Witch doctor also have results and there are many living testimonies to it.

The occult have results, and those in it have their own testimonies.

Blood money also have result.

Witchcraft have results.

Mediums and Necromancer have result and King Saul was a testimony of it.

Should I continue to go on?

the result I'm talking about is different from the kind of result those one you mention can produce. I'm talking about results like Renewal of the mind, improved payer life, improved love for the things of God and miracles happening through my hands. I also fell in love with the Spirit of the Living God and I have an understanding that I'm created to partner with the Holy Spirit to establish the kingdom of God in every sphere of life I found myself. I don't just live for myself, I live for the kingdom. All these happened when I started hearing his messages. I dont think a Necromancer can produce that kind of result sir.

BenYeshua:


the result I'm talking about is different from the kind of result those one you mention can produce. I'm talking about results like Renewal of the mind, improved payer life, improved love for the things of God and miracles happening through my hands. I also fell in love with the Spirit of the Living God and I have an understanding that I'm created to partner with the Holy Spirit to establish the kingdom of God in every sphere of life I found myself. I don't just live for myself, I live for the kingdom. All these happened when I started hearing his messages. I dont think a Necromancer can produce that kind of result sir.

Wow, that's wonderful. I glorify God for your life. And indeed, only God deserves all the glory. We ministers are just mere servants. That we may decrease so that Christ might increase. Only God is worthy;

"Aren’t you living like people of the world? 4 When one of you says, “I am a follower of Paul,” and another says, “I follow Apollos,” aren’t you acting just like people of the world?

5 After all, who is Apollos? Who is Paul? We are only God’s servants through whom you believed the Good News. Each of us did the work the Lord gave us. 6 I planted the seed in your hearts, and Apollos watered it, but it was God who made it grow. 7 It’s not important who does the planting, or who does the watering. What’s important is that God makes the seed grow. 8 The one who plants and the one who waters work together with the same purpose. And both will be rewarded for their own hard work. 9 For we are both God’s workers. And you are God’s field. You are God’s building.

10 Because of God’s grace to me, I have laid the foundation like an expert builder. Now others are building on it. But whoever is building on this foundation must be very careful. 11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one we already have—Jesus Christ.

12 Anyone who builds on that foundation may use a variety of materials—gold, silver, jewels, wood, hay, or straw. 13 But on the judgment day, fire will reveal what kind of work each builder has done. The fire will show if a person’s work has any value...

21 No one, then, should boast about what human beings can do. Actually everything belongs to you: 22 Paul, Apollos, and Peter; this world, life and death, the present and the future—all these are yours, 23 and you belong to Christ, and Christ belongs to God." (1Cor 3:4-13, 21-23).

CodeTemplar:

Zechariah 1:17 confirms your submission. Prosperity is key. For body, spirit and soul.

Here's Zechariah 1 vs 17 in context. Now show us where prosperity is made the key for body, spirit, and soul. I highlighted verse 17 so you can see how it only makes sense when considered in the context in which it appears!

Zechariah 1 vs 12-17 (ERV)
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12. Then the angel of the Lord said, ‘O Lord of hosts, how long will you have no mercy on Jerusalem and the cities of Judah, against which you have been angry these seventy years?’
13. And the Lord answered gracious and comforting words to the angel who talked with me.
14. So the angel who talked with me said to me, ‘Cry out, Thus says the Lord of hosts: I am exceedingly jealous for Jerusalem and for Zion.
15. And I am exceedingly angry with the nations that are at ease; for while I was angry but a little, they furthered the disaster.
16. Therefore, thus says the Lord, I have returned to Jerusalem with mercy; my house shall be built in it, declares the Lord of hosts, and the measuring line shall be stretched out over Jerusalem.
17. Cry out again, Thus says the Lord of hosts: My cities shall again overflow with prosperity, and the Lord will again comfort Zion and again choose Jerusalem.’”

Context is key when reading anything in the English language, the language in which this bible translation is written

ThothHermes:
Because you already have your preconceptions.

Besides the fact that he is a wonderful preacher, Joshua Selman also has results. Amazing results.

John 14:11

This is what John 14 vs 11 reads of when read within the context in which it appears. Notice it is Jesus Christ responding to a question about His person from one of His apostles, Philip.
As always, when reading in the English language, as in any other human language out there, context is key!

John 14 vs 8-14 (ERV)
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8. Philip said to him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.”
9. Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?
10. Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on my own authority, but the Father who dwells in me does his works.
11. Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me, or else believe on account of the works themselves.

12. “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do; and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father.
13. Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14. If you ask me[e] anything in my name, I will do it.

Notice how it all goes together in the context provided, and if considered outside of its original context, it loses its TRUTHINESS!

Kobojunkie:

Here's Zechariah 1 vs 17 in context. Now show us where prosperity is made the key for body, spirit, and soul. I highlighted verse 17 so you can see how it only makes sense when considered in the context in which it appears!

Context is key when reading anything in the English language, the language in which this bible translation is written

Oga use your conscience to support your mind now. Prosperity all over the bible is for body spirit and soul. And since Zechariah 1:17 doesn't specify, it makes sense to substitute the prosperity for body soul and spirit there. Stop sampling irrelevant facts while accusing me of what you are doing.

CodeTemplar:
Oga use your conscience to support your mind now. Prosperity all over the bible is for body spirit and soul. And since Zechariah 1:17 doesn't specify, it makes sense to substitute the prosperity for body soul and spirit there. Stop sampling irrelevant facts while accusing me of what you are doing.

you actually have the nerve to accuse me of sampling?
You quoted Zecharian 1vs 17. I simply showed you it says nothing of what you claim in this and honestly serves no relevance to the discussion you jumped in to respond to, nor the entire thread.

Kobojunkie:
you actually have the nerve to accuse me of sampling?
You quoted Zecharian 1vs 17. I simply showed you it says nothing of what you claim in this and honestly serves no relevance to the discussion you jumped in to respond to, nor the entire thread.

Outright mud slinging now.

CodeTemplar:
Outright mud slinging now.

You slung mud my way.

I simply restated what I have all this while. The verse is not only irrelevant to this discussion as it has absolutely nothing to do with what you claim.

At the Op. You will wind up in shame and embarrassment when the truth comes out. You better repent. Don't fight against God, because you can never win.

KennedicalEnergy:
You just wasted your time. We love Apostle Joshua Selman and not even a million of you can stop it. Nonsense writeup.

Don’t mind the jobless fellow

BenYeshua:


the result I'm talking about is different from the kind of result those one you mention can produce. I'm talking about results like Renewal of the mind, improved payer life, improved love for the things of God and miracles happening through my hands. I also fell in love with the Spirit of the Living God and I have an understanding that I'm created to partner with the Holy Spirit to establish the kingdom of God in every sphere of life I found myself. I don't just live for myself, I live for the kingdom. All these happened when I started hearing his messages. I dont think a Necromancer can produce that kind of result sir.

Don’t mind them.

If they possess the truth, let them go and speak it on platforms with evidence.
They are jobless fellows. I read their comments and I’m laughing.

Bootinfos:

On February 6 of this year, I put up a three-part series of articles titled, "15 Errors Of A Self-Styled Apostle Called Joshua Selman."

Although, I painstakingly refuted the lies of Joshua Selman by mostly appealing to the scriptures, not a few of his fans, many of whom were probably still wearing diapers when I was already an adult, reacted angrily and rudely. Most of them could not make even the feeblest attempts to disprove my points.

And the polite ones among them tried to convince me that he was not all bad but had preached some sound sermons also.

This is the kind of love that young people have for Joshua Selman, a dangerous human weapon unleashed on the church by Satan. The love they have for this man trumps the one they have for God and His sound doctrines.

But why are his followers, who are mostly youths the supposed leaders of tomorrow, obsessed with this man who has many times demonstrated in a number of his teachings that he is carrying out an Antichrist agenda? Why can't they see what God has made some of us to see? Reason: he has a few strategies which are very appealing.

1. Charisma

Give it to him, Selman is physically good-looking. He has a magnetic presence. He has a good command of English. He dresses well. He is not some illiterate village preacher with a staid appearance. He is that kind of person who stands out in a crowd. He is the man, no, the rave of the moment. But are these the qualities that make a genuine preacher? No, sir.

The Bible says in Proverbs 31:30A; " Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain."

2. Sophistry

Sophistry is an argument that seems valid but truly fallacious or misleading. I do not know any preacher that employs sophistry more than Selman. He would pick a Bible verse or story, ignore the context, create his own context, give an interpretation and make an application that fits his agenda of deception. Sometimes, he would say things that leave you with no choice but to conclude that he is an enemy of the cross.

Permit me to share an example of this by quoting from one of my articles about him.

Prosperity played a role in salvation. It took prosperity and Influence for salvation to come- Selman.

"This is the blindest and most blasphemous of the utterances made by Selman. In making a case for his perverted prosperity gospel, Selman says angels couldn't bring Jesus down from the cross. It was Joseph of Arimathea, a man of influence and prosperity that could reach the governor to demand the body of Christ.

"The implication of this most foolish statement is that Joseph played a role in our salvation. Joseph's influence and prosperity made our salvation complete. Jesus would have remained on the cross and may not have resurrected. Joseph helped Jesus to fulfill His plan of redemption. Joseph is now our Deputy Saviour.

"In reality, Joseph was just a lover of Jesus who thought to give him a "befitting" burial. He was not more special or more relevant than the women who went with spices to his grave to anoint his body. If Joseph was not available, Jesus would still have resurrected.

"Would it make sense to say virginity played a role in our salvation because Mary His earthly mother got pregnant with him when she was a virgin?

"Selman is treading on a dangerous ground. Somebody should tell him."

3. Oratory

There is nothing bad in God's natural gift of oratory. It only becomes corrupted when it is used to serve Satanic ends. Selman has a way with words. He knows how to artfully string simple words to make them sound pleasant to the ears. He speaks authoritatively on issues. But when his words are scripturally scrutinised, they are just hollow. They are absolute rubbish.

4. Self-concocted mysteries

Selman has a fertile imagination. If he had deployed that gift into fiction writing, he would most probably have written a few bestseller novels. What he, however, does is that he wickedly manipulates the scriptures and then weaves them into his own invented doctrines. Selman says there are times the personal faith of a believer will not suffice, so they need to operate in the special covenant a "higher" believer has with God to get a breakthrough. FICTION!

In the Bible there are only two covenants God has had with men; the abolished old testament and the new covenant God has with his saints which is sealed with the blood of Jesus. Some people might say, Selman's teaching is just an innocent error. No.

Let me tell you the implication. The Devil is using Selman to convince New Testament saints that their personal salvation is not enough. He is teaching them not only to look unto Jesus the author and finisher of their faith but also the supposed fathers of faith. He is teaching believers to fall into idolatry.

Selman, in a video, said, Lagos and Abeokuta were special in the spiritual realms, hence, anyone in Nigeria whose feet had not touched those two cities would not be recognised globally. FICTION!

Aside from this being an unscriptural lie, how does this statement have anything to do with preaching Christ and His finished work? As believers, Is achieving global fame our aim on earth? Why are Selman and his fellow liars so obsessed with wealth and fame?

5. Fake deep spiritual understanding

As Selman bedazzles his awestruck listeners and fans about talks of realms, mysteries and kingdom wealth transfer, he assumes the figure of one who has been given a rare capacity to understand and unravel hidden spiritual secrets. But in truth, he only employs verbosity, sophistry and circumlocution to give a sense of depth to his very shallow and mindbogglingly heretical teachings.

6. Blend of truth and falsehood

In defence of Selman, there are people who admit that though he is sometimes wrong, he also teaches sound doctrines. This argument seems plausible but only on the surface. It is true that many of us ( including this writer) have made doctrinal mistakes. But when the doctrinal error is one that affects the core of the Christian faith and such is taught by a preacher repeatedly; when the ungodly mindset of a preacher seeps through his sermons; when the gospel and its consequential truths are regularly manipulated by a preacher; when a preacher's doctrines subtly or directly exalt man above God; when a preacher with his teachings pokes his hands in God's face, then he becomes a weapon in the hands of Satan.

A preacher who blends a little truth with toxic falsehood, is more dangerous than the one who teaches only lies.

Selman is inarguably the most dangerous religious weapon in Nigeria now because there is no other preacher ( genuine and false) who has a greater hold on the hearts of young people like him. Like I said, in one of my earlier posts, he is the one being used by Satan to produce a new generation of Antichrists.

While I pray that God deliver as many as He would among these youths from the Selmanic stronghold ( stranglehold), I also exhort brethren whom God is using to draw our hearts to Him, not to keep quiet.

We must keep on denouncing evil. And we must increase our efforts in teaching sound doctrines.

I wish you all every blessing.
© Paul Dada - Journalist, Gospel Singer.

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