Even the wellbeing of a financial criminal who has sent many people into their graves? Judgement has caught up with him.
clearly there is different between living and surviving bro.. everything would still be blamed on the government if we are gonna be truthful with ourselves..
Some people make money legitimately through online work or one or two businesses, but compare the ratio with those that fail..
If you won't mind we can open thread and thrash it out
seanwilliam: you are just confusing yourself, most people are into it for survival.. how many politicians pikin have you heard doing Yahoo yahoo before? No one is supportingfraud, but u and I know that if a country fails to do the needful on time , then it should be ready to clean this mess later .. every country has scammers .. the point is if the system is working, it will reduce.... a person that finish schooling and gets better paying job wouldn't think of delving into scam.. and u see, since most of them have tasted scam money and see how easy it is, then it would be hard to take dem out of it..
Are you telling me that Invictus Obi had no good paying job in the US before engaging in fraud? See, here in the US, there are Nigerians who work 4 jobs to live! Why did they choose to work and not scam people? Do you think compromising business emails(like Hush and co) is rocket science? Many people in the US can do this but we just choose to stay true to our core values and integrity. Life is a process and things take time. I will rather work as a cleaner than to be a fraudster. My cousin is in Dubai. He used to work as a cleaner before getting a better job. Why did Hush Puppi not follow this route?
The issue here is greed and impatience. These guys just want to ”enjoy” the best things possible via shortcuts.
What's the business of the American justice system with Nigerian politicians? They are interested in Hush because he defrauded ordinary Americans. Punishing politicians is the sole responsibility of Nigerians.
seanwilliam: I love your choice of words. I thought you would say in all cases
Credit to DuBLINGreenb, the original poster Won't happen but las las hush done chop money, flex life, lived lavish, flown choppers, flown private, had the most exotic cars, mingled with celebs obtained connections, became a known international brand.
No jail can take that away from him, if he comes out of prison he will be better than most poor Nigerians because he has a platform, he has connections, he has experience, he is known and so on. He won't be starting from square 1
He can write a bestseller book, be a TV host, sing music people will buy, sell his story to American media companies, work for security organisations abroad etc
Most Nigerians live in houses worst than American prisons me typing this have not seen electricity in 42 hours straight, I paid aboki 50 bucks to charge my phone, American prisons have 24/7 electricity, gym, free TV, free laundry services, free phone calls and free food that is why black Americans even the celebs see jail as an achievement as street cred status bringer
how many haven't been to jail? you tell me as we speak many US celebs are in jail including Steven Spielberg's daughter, R Kelly, Da baby etc Even Robert Downey Jr, Lil Kim, tommy Lee, Mark Wahlberg have all been to U.S prison Their prison is not like our own many come out of jail looking better than they did before they went in.
Those quoting me will chose 10 - 15 years in American prison and a lifetime of living lavish for themselves and their family without thinking twice over being a poor Nigerian from birth to death.
Ask yourself what odds hushpuppi had of being as rich as he was without doing what he did? We all know majority of Nigerians will be born into poverty and will die in poverty but we all want to delude ourselves by thinking "I will be the one to make it" niggger that's what the other 100,000,000 dead Nigerians before you thought, you think every poor Nigerian chose to be poor? or they don't know your God or another one is "if he didn't do crime he would be enjoying by now!" Nigguh enjoying what exactly
Simple question please how many Nigerian lawyers do you know richer than or even half as rich as Hushpuppi? Even the celebs how many of them where as rich as hush? Only the very top 1%
Another quick question? Ask them how many years and how much suffering, and how much connections etc it took them to get that degree and then that position and if the pay for those without connection is adequate, do the same for every other profession except clergy and politicians
And decide for yourself what chance the vast majority of Nigerians have of becoming millionaires or even hundred thousandnaires ?
I'm not encouraging crime please don't do crime but let us be realistic in our thoughts and speech,
I thought if you go to school you must be rich until I was in a slum and a woman told me she did her youth service in taraba, I was surprised I was like wtf excuse me, she said yes she served in.... She didn't know I was thinking shocked thinking to myself "how did you go to school for 17+ years only to end up in this slum in this poverty" I assumed everyone in slums where uneducated never do wells, miscreants etc.
Imagine if she, like most young girls were compelled to sleep with lecturers for grades, or sorted to pass and all that thinking riches were ahead of them upon graduation only to end up in a slum without husband and children hey this isn't fiction this lady was quarrelling with another non educated woman the other day I recorded what the women were using to insult her. Her lack of husband and children she kept saying she sacrificed all that for school and her future but you decide if this is a future worth losing sleep for, worth losing meaningful relationships for
Are you telling me that Invictus Obi had no good paying job in the US before engaging in fraud? See, here in the US, there are Nigerians who work 4 jobs to live! Why did they choose to work and not scam people? Do you think compromising business emails(like Hush and co) is rocket science? Many people in the US can do this but we just choose to stay true to our core values and integrity. Life is a process and things take time. I will rather work as a cleaner than to be a fraudster. My cousin is in Dubai. He used to work as a cleaner before getting a better job. Why did Hush Puppi not follow this route?
The issue here is greed and impatience. These guys just want to ”enjoy” the best things possible via shortcuts.
Lol,the more I reply you, the more some dumbass would think I'm defending scam..
Bro over there, you have basic needs of life.. in Dubai they have basic needs of life... so even if you making little amount of money in usa, you are better than over 70% of Nigerians ...
U are LIVING in the USA, we are SURVIVING in Nigeria... Like I have said, MOST people delve into scam in other to survive. There would always be exception to every case..( invictus obi case)
planetx: You are ignorant and brainwashed, I wouldn't wish an American federal prison on my worse enemies. I see this dumb comments on NL about how great life is in US prisons and can only shake my head. You people have no clue except the illusion you have been made to believe.
As in, the matter tire me. It just shows that there are so many illiterates on nairaland. Just one YouTube clip of American prisons will show any sensible person that US prisons are terrible. These morons on nairaland also don't know that US prisoners are used for slave labor and don't have first amendment rights so cannot refuse to work.
Talking about taking action. I would like you to search @nigeriayoutharetired on telegram. It's a group created for concern Nigeria youth who are tired at the status quo.
You are still helping spread this yesterday nonsense of a post? I guess you didn't bother to read the number of quotes that nonsense post received with negative responses.
Did you see the likes
that comment had More likes than quotes
obviously not everyone would agree everyone is not supposed to agree especially on topics as dicey as that, morality is a spectrum to each individual has his definitions. That is why morality and law are 2 different things what is moral isn't always legal and what is legal isn't leats moral.
If you are judging based on engagements the original post had over 450 likes and less than 20 quotes, meaning it received 20 times more positive feedback than negative even some of the quotes were positive one even urging me to be President.
Don't attack the argumentators or the supporters of the argument, attack the argument itself.
If I want to be rich, it must be through ‘evil means’.
Yes to your question.
You should be ashamed of yourself. I will rather be a homeless road cleaner than to engage in fraudulent or evil activities all under the guise of getting rich. What the hell is wrong with this generation? Why are people so greedy, desperate and impatient? Nonsense!
gaventa: Intimidated hater sighted! Channel your pain to those stealing your money and shattering the hopes of your unborn children not someone who hasnt stolen from you.if you say their actions are causing legit Nigerians some shit outside I will tell you before internet fraud Nigeria never had any good image, if internet fraud stops today nigeria still won't have any good image. These men were just posting you are the one who is supposed to change your perspective. They don't know you in person.
The problem is not bad governance but greed and impatience. Hush Puppi found his way to Dubai - where he has access to good jobs and stuff. He chose not to work but engage in fraud. And he ended up spending his loot on luxury lifestyle. If you take all these Naija yahoo boys to the USA(where there is good governance) and give good jobs - they will still look for means to scam people. Because they want to drive Benz. Live lavishly forgetting that life is a process and things take time. Most of these people are not looking for how to meet their basic needs. They are all in a hurry to live in luxury - neglecting the fact that people in developed countries largely live an average lifestyle. When Americans deride Nigerians with terms like ”Nigerian Prince” or ”419”, do they refer to Nigerian politicians or ordinary Nigerians who engage in cybercrime? This shows you who really brings us shame. Nonsense!
adolfHitler1934: No matter how much you make from crime, no matter your connection, no matter how strong or powerful your private army may be.....the Law is stronger than you. You must answer for your crimes one day.
None of those who made their money thru crime ever live a continuous and prolonged happy life because in most cases it never end well with them....the Law will catch up with you ONE DAY.
Anini Lawrence Dele Ilorin Shine Rambo Evans the kidnapper
mobi99: why is everybody criticizing hushP, my blame goes to our nation's leader,some one wit this kinda intellect is not an illiterate....look at what is happening in our current society first class graduates rooming the street without ( at least I know one for 4 years now)work after wasting 4-6 years in school,corpers are being released in to the labour market wit no or less job opportunities....money meant for public use some set of people at the helm of affairs turned it into their private money,no infrastructure,no tangible social amenities,no good health care,no standard education, poverty ravaging the the populace. the crime hushP committed isn't same thing our so called leaders are doing to us here,do u think if he has a job that can take care of him and his family at large he will venture into this kinda crime that will endanger him for life? Our government doesn't care about how young people in this country is faring,or surviving,as long as their families are ok and in good condition every other thing is no or less problem to them....my only regret on this is hushP was carried away with luxurious life with his pals and forgetting everyone is seeing him,would have been more happier if actually the fraud was on Nigerians economy, because our leaders have loot is so much we don't know who to complain to...on the contrary America really need him,if a common Nigerian can hack into Americans economic system to defraud them of millions of dollars,and it took them years to apprehend him,don't u think he is an asset to them and a huge loss to Nigeria government who could have make use of the guy and use him as a tool to their own benefit. what a loss! ... America has a private penitentiary where they keep people of his caliber,and breed them as well to be a more sophisticated cyber wizard....the world have known hushP as world no1 hacker and not just an insta celebrity....wish u happy stay where ever you find your self Hush
So there are no jobs in Dubai? My cousin worked as a cleaner in Dubai before getting a job with an IT firm.
The problem is not really bad governance but greed and impatience. Hush Puppi found his way to Dubai - where he has access to good jobs and stuff. He chose not to work but engage in fraud. And he ended up spending his loot on luxury lifestyle. If you take all these Naija yahoo boys to the USA(where there is good governance) and give good jobs - they will still look for means to scam people. Because they want to drive Benz. Live lavishly forgetting that life is a process and things take time. Most of these people are not looking for how to meet their basic needs. They are all in a hurry to live in luxury - neglecting the fact that people in developed countries largely live an average lifestyle. When Americans deride Nigerians with terms like ”Nigerian Prince” or ”419”, do they refer to Nigerian politicians or ordinary Nigerians who engage in cybercrime? This shows you who really brings us shame. Nonsense!
You’re are an experienced motherfucker but it’s not easy bruh . The prison psy trauma won’t leave him forever . Prison. Ain’t no place for kids meh
seanwilliam: I love your choice of words. I thought you would say in all cases
Credit to DuBLINGreenb, the original poster Won't happen but las las hush done chop money, flex life, lived lavish, flown choppers, flown private, had the most exotic cars, mingled with celebs obtained connections, became a known international brand.
No jail can take that away from him, if he comes out of prison he will be better than most poor Nigerians because he has a platform, he has connections, he has experience, he is known and so on. He won't be starting from square 1
He can write a bestseller book, be a TV host, sing music people will buy, sell his story to American media companies, work for security organisations abroad etc
Most Nigerians live in houses worst than American prisons me typing this have not seen electricity in 42 hours straight, I paid aboki 50 bucks to charge my phone, American prisons have 24/7 electricity, gym, free TV, free laundry services, free phone calls and free food that is why black Americans even the celebs see jail as an achievement as street cred status bringer
how many haven't been to jail? you tell me as we speak many US celebs are in jail including Steven Spielberg's daughter, R Kelly, Da baby etc Even Robert Downey Jr, Lil Kim, tommy Lee, Mark Wahlberg have all been to U.S prison Their prison is not like our own many come out of jail looking better than they did before they went in.
Those quoting me will chose 10 - 15 years in American prison and a lifetime of living lavish for themselves and their family without thinking twice over being a poor Nigerian from birth to death.
Ask yourself what odds hushpuppi had of being as rich as he was without doing what he did? We all know majority of Nigerians will be born into poverty and will die in poverty but we all want to delude ourselves by thinking "I will be the one to make it" niggger that's what the other 100,000,000 dead Nigerians before you thought, you think every poor Nigerian chose to be poor? or they don't know your God or another one is "if he didn't do crime he would be enjoying by now!" Nigguh enjoying what exactly
Simple question please how many Nigerian lawyers do you know richer than or even half as rich as Hushpuppi? Even the celebs how many of them where as rich as hush? Only the very top 1%
Another quick question? Ask them how many years and how much suffering, and how much connections etc it took them to get that degree and then that position and if the pay for those without connection is adequate, do the same for every other profession except clergy and politicians
And decide for yourself what chance the vast majority of Nigerians have of becoming millionaires or even hundred thousandnaires ?
I'm not encouraging crime please don't do crime but let us be realistic in our thoughts and speech,
I thought if you go to school you must be rich until I was in a slum and a woman told me she did her youth service in taraba, I was surprised I was like wtf excuse me, she said yes she served in.... She didn't know I was thinking shocked thinking to myself "how did you go to school for 17+ years only to end up in this slum in this poverty" I assumed everyone in slums where uneducated never do wells, miscreants etc.
Imagine if she, like most young girls were compelled to sleep with lecturers for grades, or sorted to pass and all that thinking riches were ahead of them upon graduation only to end up in a slum without husband and children hey this isn't fiction this lady was quarrelling with another non educated woman the other day I recorded what the women were using to insult her. Her lack of husband and children she kept saying she sacrificed all that for school and her future but you decide if this is a future worth losing sleep for, worth losing meaningful relationships for
adolfHitler1934: No matter how much you make from crime, no matter your connection, no matter how strong or powerful your private army may be.....the Law is stronger than you. You must answer for your crimes one day.
None of those who made their money thru crime ever live a continuous and prolonged happy life because in most cases it never end well with them....the Law will catch up with you ONE DAY.
Anini Lawrence Dele Ilorin Shine Rambo Evans the kidnapper
Are you telling me that Invictus Obi had no good paying job in the US before engaging in fraud? See, here in the US, there are Nigerians who work 4 jobs to live! Why did they choose to work and not scam people? Do you think compromising business emails(like Hush and co) is rocket science? Many people in the US can do this but we just choose to stay true to our core values and integrity. Life is a process and things take time. I will rather work as a cleaner than to be a fraudster. My cousin is in Dubai. He used to work as a cleaner before getting a better job. Why did Hush Puppi not follow this route?
The issue here is greed and impatience. These guys just want to ”enjoy” the best things possible via shortcuts.
don't mind that guy jor.. Which platform instagram or twitter we all know the kind of followers he got... See nobody want his or her image dented because of an ex-con, scammer. He should go and publish.. He thinks life is like wolves of wall str
Shitty comments have that history on Nairaland. I was still trying to understand the lesson in that comment.
obviously not everyone would agree everyone is not supposed to agree especially on topics as dicey as that, morality is a spectrum to each individual has his definitions. That is why morality and law are 2 different things what is moral isn't always legal and what is legal isn't leats moral.
If you are judging based on engagements the original post had over 450 likes and less than 20 quotes, meaning it received 20 times more positive feedback than negative even some of the quotes were positive one even urging me to be President.
This is a bold faced lie. The quotes were more than 20 and less than 5% were positive. I can volunteer to analyse if you wish
Don't attack the argumentators or the supporters of the argument, attack the argument itself.
seanwilliam: clearly there is different between living and surviving bro.. everything would still be blamed on the government if we are gonna be truthful with ourselves..
Some people make money legitimately through online work or one or two businesses, but compare the ratio with those that fail..
If you won't mind we can open thread and thrash it out
You can blame the government as much as you like. Just know that some people are not ready to work legitimately for a number of reasons.
What you fail to understand is that before 419 Nigeria was called "CORRUPT". I quite agree with all you have said but what we all fail to understand is that Our politicians brought this on us. It didn't start today and it won't end in a Day. International world didn't call us CORRUPT because of 419 or Internet Fraud. They called us Corrupt because of the practices of our leaders as such they don't expect anything better. Kindly good the list if most wanted cyber crime persons or countries in the world. You will barely find an African country on that list but you will find Asians, Russians on that list. If internet fraud was tbe yardstick why are other Asian and Russians nationals not stereo typed in foreign countries. Do you know why? They have a system that's ready to prove that the culprit's are not up to 1% of the entire country but our own people don't know themselves. They end up being jostled around and setliing for less bro. Our leaders are our problems, they loot funds and bring shit to our face anf we think the common man who is not promised the next meal will just overlook that? Orji uzor Kalu was welcomed by the Senate president despite being charged for Corruption , so many sitting senators are still answering Corruption cases but nothing is done. So many things have gone wrong and they act like they are above the law but we forget all of this are insensitive causes of the average Nigerian wanting to get money at all cost. Let's not b sentimental, not everyone can or will settle for less. Same way we have our politician not relenting in looting despite acquiring exess is the same way that Fraudster will not relent because the mindset is that you can violate and get away with it. There is no country without Corruption but when a govt praises thieves don't blame the common man also when he does same. You steal small you get largerr sentences so why not steak big and get hailed just like uzor Kalu and Abacha.
The problem is not bad governance but greed and impatience. Hush Puppi found his way to Dubai - where he has access to good jobs and stuff. He chose not to work but engage in fraud. And he ended up spending his loot on luxury lifestyle. If you take all these Naija yahoo boys to the USA(where there is good governance) and give good jobs - they will still look for means to scam people. Because they want to drive Benz. Live lavishly forgetting that life is a process and things take time. Most of these people are not looking for how to meet their basic needs. They are all in a hurry to live in luxury - neglecting the fact that people in developed countries largely live an average lifestyle. When Americans deride Nigerians with terms like ”Nigerian Prince” or ”419”, do they refer to Nigerian politicians or ordinary Nigerians who engage in cybercrime? This shows you who really brings us shame. Nonsense!
seanwilliam: I love your choice of words. I thought you would say in all cases
Credit to DuBLINGreenb, the original poster Won't happen but las las hush done chop money, flex life, lived lavish, flown choppers, flown private, had the most exotic cars, mingled with celebs obtained connections, became a known international brand.
No jail can take that away from him, if he comes out of prison he will be better than most poor Nigerians because he has a platform, he has connections, he has experience, he is known and so on. He won't be starting from square 1
He can write a bestseller book, be a TV host, sing music people will buy, sell his story to American media companies, work for security organisations abroad etc
Most Nigerians live in houses worst than American prisons me typing this have not seen electricity in 42 hours straight, I paid aboki 50 bucks to charge my phone, American prisons have 24/7 electricity, gym, free TV, free laundry services, free phone calls and free food that is why black Americans even the celebs see jail as an achievement as street cred status bringer
how many haven't been to jail? you tell me as we speak many US celebs are in jail including Steven Spielberg's daughter, R Kelly, Da baby etc Even Robert Downey Jr, Lil Kim, tommy Lee, Mark Wahlberg have all been to U.S prison Their prison is not like our own many come out of jail looking better than they did before they went in.
Those quoting me will chose 10 - 15 years in American prison and a lifetime of living lavish for themselves and their family without thinking twice over being a poor Nigerian from birth to death.
Ask yourself what odds hushpuppi had of being as rich as he was without doing what he did? We all know majority of Nigerians will be born into poverty and will die in poverty but we all want to delude ourselves by thinking "I will be the one to make it" niggger that's what the other 100,000,000 dead Nigerians before you thought, you think every poor Nigerian chose to be poor? or they don't know your God or another one is "if he didn't do crime he would be enjoying by now!" Nigguh enjoying what exactly
Simple question please how many Nigerian lawyers do you know richer than or even half as rich as Hushpuppi? Even the celebs how many of them where as rich as hush? Only the very top 1%
Another quick question? Ask them how many years and how much suffering, and how much connections etc it took them to get that degree and then that position and if the pay for those without connection is adequate, do the same for every other profession except clergy and politicians
And decide for yourself what chance the vast majority of Nigerians have of becoming millionaires or even hundred thousandnaires ?
I'm not encouraging crime please don't do crime but let us be realistic in our thoughts and speech,
I thought if you go to school you must be rich until I was in a slum and a woman told me she did her youth service in taraba, I was surprised I was like wtf excuse me, she said yes she served in.... She didn't know I was thinking shocked thinking to myself "how did you go to school for 17+ years only to end up in this slum in this poverty" I assumed everyone in slums where uneducated never do wells, miscreants etc.
Imagine if she, like most young girls were compelled to sleep with lecturers for grades, or sorted to pass and all that thinking riches were ahead of them upon graduation only to end up in a slum without husband and children hey this isn't fiction this lady was quarrelling with another non educated woman the other day I recorded what the women were using to insult her. Her lack of husband and children she kept saying she sacrificed all that for school and her future but you decide if this is a future worth losing sleep for, worth losing meaningful relationships for
seanwilliam: I love your choice of words. I thought you would say in all cases
Credit to DuBLINGreenb, the original poster Won't happen but las las hush done chop money, flex life, lived lavish, flown choppers, flown private, had the most exotic cars, mingled with celebs obtained connections, became a known international brand.
No jail can take that away from him, if he comes out of prison he will be better than most poor Nigerians because he has a platform, he has connections, he has experience, he is known and so on. He won't be starting from square 1
He can write a bestseller book, be a TV host, sing music people will buy, sell his story to American media companies, work for security organisations abroad etc
Most Nigerians live in houses worst than American prisons me typing this have not seen electricity in 42 hours straight, I paid aboki 50 bucks to charge my phone, American prisons have 24/7 electricity, gym, free TV, free laundry services, free phone calls and free food that is why black Americans even the celebs see jail as an achievement as street cred status bringer
how many haven't been to jail? you tell me as we speak many US celebs are in jail including Steven Spielberg's daughter, R Kelly, Da baby etc Even Robert Downey Jr, Lil Kim, tommy Lee, Mark Wahlberg have all been to U.S prison Their prison is not like our own many come out of jail looking better than they did before they went in.
Those quoting me will chose 10 - 15 years in American prison and a lifetime of living lavish for themselves and their family without thinking twice over being a poor Nigerian from birth to death.
Ask yourself what odds hushpuppi had of being as rich as he was without doing what he did? We all know majority of Nigerians will be born into poverty and will die in poverty but we all want to delude ourselves by thinking "I will be the one to make it" niggger that's what the other 100,000,000 dead Nigerians before you thought, you think every poor Nigerian chose to be poor? or they don't know your God or another one is "if he didn't do crime he would be enjoying by now!" Nigguh enjoying what exactly
Simple question please how many Nigerian lawyers do you know richer than or even half as rich as Hushpuppi? Even the celebs how many of them where as rich as hush? Only the very top 1%
Another quick question? Ask them how many years and how much suffering, and how much connections etc it took them to get that degree and then that position and if the pay for those without connection is adequate, do the same for every other profession except clergy and politicians
And decide for yourself what chance the vast majority of Nigerians have of becoming millionaires or even hundred thousandnaires ?
I'm not encouraging crime please don't do crime but let us be realistic in our thoughts and speech,
I thought if you go to school you must be rich until I was in a slum and a woman told me she did her youth service in taraba, I was surprised I was like wtf excuse me, she said yes she served in.... She didn't know I was thinking shocked thinking to myself "how did you go to school for 17+ years only to end up in this slum in this poverty" I assumed everyone in slums where uneducated never do wells, miscreants etc.
Imagine if she, like most young girls were compelled to sleep with lecturers for grades, or sorted to pass and all that thinking riches were ahead of them upon graduation only to end up in a slum without husband and children hey this isn't fiction this lady was quarrelling with another non educated woman the other day I recorded what the women were using to insult her. Her lack of husband and children she kept saying she sacrificed all that for school and her future but you decide if this is a future worth losing sleep for, worth losing meaningful relationships for
