Below is synopsis of a $6 book on why 70% of black American women (BAW) are single.
Do u agree with the reasons presented; if not, what reasons would u suggest?

How exactly did black women learn a "paradigm" keeping them single? Are there more single black women than whites? How come, despite this 'paradigm', our black mothers had marriages that were sustainable, or, has any shift in 'paradigm' occured over time? So you see, this reasoning is flawed, till you present enough facts to back it up.

Quinex2:
How exactly did black women learn a "paradigm" keeping them single? Are there more single black women than whites? How come, despite this 'paradigm', our black mothers had marriages that were sustainable, or, has any shift in 'paradigm' occured over time? So you see, this reasoning is flawed, till you present enough facts to back it up.

First of all thanks for your post. It is rather embarrassing to put up a topic and have absolutely no one respond to it.
Whoever wrote that book must be an incel (look it up).
A lot of women being single is almost always precipitated by paucity of eligible men

CanadaOrBust:


First of all thanks for your post. It is rather embarrassing to put up a topic and have absolutely no one respond to it.
Whoever wrote that book must be an incel (look it up).
A lot of women being single is almost always precipitated by paucity of eligible men

Here are some of the real reasons a large percentage of black women are single:
(this, of course, pertains to black AMERICAN women):

1)During slavery black men were basically used as studs for breeding more slaves - no marriage involved, normalizing having children without marriage
2)White masters had children with black women - no marriage involved, further normalizing no-marriage culture
3)Mass incarceration of black men by a social structure that encourages deviant behavior from them.

You knock a book that you haven't even read.

Sigh.

There's a word that describes such behaviour but I won't mention it.

Maybe Black American women are single cos they can't afford $6 to read a book to find out why they are single.

Quinex2:


Here are some of the real reasons a large percentage of black women are single:
(this, of course, pertains to black AMERICAN women):

1)During slavery black men were basically used as studs for breeding more slaves - no marriage involved, normalizing having children without marriage
2)White masters had children with black women - no marriage involved, further normalizing no-marriage culture
3)Mass incarceration of black men by a social structure that encourages deviant behavior from them.

All three of your reasons are wrong especially #3 To find out the root cause of mass incarceration for black Americans Google the 13th Amendment in the US Constitution, you will then understand systemic racism.

VULCAN:
You knock a book that you haven't even read.

Sigh.

There's a word that describes such behaviour but I won't mention it.

Maybe Black American women are single cos they can't afford $6 to read a book to find out why they are single.

LMAO What is 6 dollars to an American?
Maybe they know the book is full of lies and stereotypes and have no interest in helping the author profit from it.

Quinex2:


Here are some of the real reasons a large percentage of black women are single:
(this, of course, pertains to black AMERICAN women):

1)During slavery black men were basically used as studs for breeding more slaves - no marriage involved, normalizing having children without marriage
2)White masters had children with black women - no marriage involved, further normalizing no-marriage culture
3)Mass incarceration of black men by a social structure that encourages deviant behavior from them.

absolute nonsense

VULCAN:
You knock a book that you haven't even read.

Sigh.

There's a word that describes such behaviour but I won't mention it.

Maybe Black American women are single cos they can't afford $6 to read a book to find out why they are single.

and the black American men who fall short in school attendance compared to black American women choose not to buy 1000000 copies @ $6 to distribute for their women to be liberated

I heard some black women are less feminine there or have short temper or ghetto is.

VULCAN:
You knock a book that you haven't even read.

Sigh.

There's a word that describes such behaviour but I won't mention it.

Maybe Black American women are single cos they can't afford $6 to read a book to find out why they are single.

The synopsis of the book is right there for u to read but u refuse to read it.

There's a word that describes such behaviour but I won't mention it.

Maybe BAW(Black American Women) don’t want to give $6 to a person whose thesis summary is so flawed

Terryishere:

LMAO What is 6 dollars to an American?
Maybe they know the book is full of lies and stereotypes and have no interest in helping the author profit from it.

Exactly my point. See my post above

pDudd abeg come settle this matter you go fit explain better

Quinex2:
How exactly did black women learn a "paradigm" keeping them single? Are there more single black women than whites? How come, despite this 'paradigm', our black mothers had marriages that were sustainable, or, has any shift in 'paradigm' occured over time? So you see, this reasoning is flawed, till you present enough facts to back it up.

Nna men!

When they said "black women" they mean African Americans. Are you one?

Quinex2:


Here are some of the real reasons a large percentage of black women are single:
(this, of course, pertains to black AMERICAN women):

1)During slavery black men were basically used as studs for breeding more slaves - no marriage involved, normalizing having children without marriage
2)White masters had children with black women - no marriage involved, further normalizing no-marriage culture
3)Mass incarceration of black men by a social structure that encourages deviant behavior from them.

I think u make a lot of sense tho I’m not totally conversant with the history.
There is also the fact that a lot of the men drop out of school.

Terryishere:


All three of your reasons are wrong especially #3 To find out the root cause of mass incarceration for black Americans Google the 13th Amendment in the US Constitution, you will then understand systemic racism.

Here’s text of the 13th Amendment in its entirety. How does this explain singleness of BAW?

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

baralatie:

absolute nonsense

How? I think the points are quite logical and valid

CanadaOrBust:


Here’s text of the 13th Amendment in its entirety. How does this explain singleness of BAW?

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

The bolded is/was the loophole to continue the enslavement of black Americans. When slavery was Supposedly abolished the lazy white savages used that clause to arrest blacks for living their lives i.e. looking whites in the eye, being outside after dark, walking on sidewalks, any bullshit reason to put them back into slavery. They would receive lifetime prison terms therefore continuing slavery.

This practice is still continued today. A couple of years ago a US judge was sentenced to 20 years in prison for practicing this loophole. He had sentenced hundreds of innocent young black men to prison and they were all released. There are so many innocent black people in the US prison system. This is the answer to your false #3 statement.

baralatie:

and the black American men who fall short in school attendance compared to black American women choose not to buy 1000000 copies @ $6 to distribute for their women to be liberated

A think that is a big part of it - black men fall short and therefore achieve less, and women as a rule hate marrying beneath themselves

Stephenmoka4:
I heard some black women are less feminine there or have short temper or ghetto is.

I heard this too - bossy and aggressive

[quote author=Terryishere post=91387160][/quote]

Still doesn’t explain why BAW are single

CanadaOrBust:

How? I think the points are quite logical and valid

there is nothing logical here. the question is why are black American women single there are a thousand reasons which are responsible 1.disposition towards marriage 2.inability to get a black american male of choice 3.cost and implications associated with living in a capitalist American society 4. financial considerations 5.social and cultural considerations 6.religious considerations 7.legal considerations 8.place of residence 9.level of commitment 10.rate of infidelity and so on.
blaming Christopher Columbus is out of it

ZINIBANKS:
pDudd abeg come settle this matter you go fit explain better

Ok i go yarn.

The reason is not a simple one but a multifaceted one. Many factors come into play when it comes to finding out the reason. The reasons are cultural, socioeconomic, historical, personal, and societal.

Cultural: In the AA community, having a kid outside wedlock is a normal thing. It is even encouraged because kids are able to increase your socioeconomic status. The more kids you have, the more money you get on your tax returns, also the more you are able to get improved welfare packages. So a man is needed only to reproduce and not necessary to raise kids. If a man is present in the home and is earning income to take care of the kids, the lady may not be able to access the welfare package.

Socioeconomic: Like I said above, if you are a single mother, you are in a better position to access welfare packages due to your kids. The society looks upon you as a victim and this affords you access to many welfare benefits, such as free childcare, free daycare, free healthcare, free housing, free food, etc. The government will provide all that for you just for being a single mother so you don't need any man. You only need the occasional dick to calm your loins but not for keepsies.

Historical: Historically, black in America were not allowed to marry or cohabit. The slavery era did this to them and hence that practice has been passed down till today. Also the introduction of the welfare system ensured that women who had men present in the house could not access welfare benefits. Hence men are not needed by the women.

Societal: In the African American community, many men between 18 to 45 are dead or in prison serving long sentences. Therefore there are about 3-4 females to every 1 male. This uneven distribution makes it hard to have a man as your own. And even when you do, other females are waiting to snatch him from you. Furthermore, the few good black men there are tend to pick women from other races (white, Latino, Asian, Samoan, etc women) because he doesn't want the drama of black women. And this furthermore reduces the picking for AA women.

Personal: Because of the unstable nature of African American relationship Dynamics, some women or men in the African American community may choose to remain single.


Also other factors that can come into play are family Dynamics in which a lady is likely not to have a permanent partner because her mother and grandmother never had stable partners. So this becomes her norm and is an acceptable way of life.

Also no other races date black women in America. So they they have limited choices in men when it comes to the relationship pool. They only have black men to look up to.


Hope this helps.

baralatie:

there is nothing logical here.
the question is why are black American women single
there are a thousand reasons which are responsible
1.disposition towards marriage
2.inability to get a black american male of choice
3.cost and implications associated with living in a capitalist American society
4. financial considerations
5.social and cultural considerations
6.religious considerations
7.legal considerations
8.place of residence
9.level of commitment
10.rate of infidelity
and so on.

blaming Christopher Columbus is out of it

Every single thing u mentioned also applies to Nigeria.
Her points are the only ones that are unique to America

CanadaOrBust:


A think that is a big part of it - black men fall short and therefore achieve less, and women as a rule hate marrying beneath themselves

black american women reflect the view of black american men as regards the word marriage.
therefore it is not as straight forward as one would think

CanadaOrBust:


Still doesn’t explain why BAW are single

Good Lord. The lack of availability. There are more available black American women than black American men because of that amendment, and not to exclude the gay population. Black American women are loyal to black American men and seldom date out of their race.unlike Nigerian women.

CanadaOrBust:

Every single thing u mentioned also applies to Nigeria. Her points are the only ones that are unique to America

unique that black american women are better of than there male counterparts

baralatie:

black american women reflect the view of black american men as regards the word marriage.
therefore it is not as straight forward as one would think

It boils down to what I wrote earlier: “A lot of women being single is almost always precipitated by shortage of eligible men”

Terryishere:


Good Lord. The lack of availability. There are more available black American women than black American men because of that amendment, and not to exclude the gay population. Black American women are loyal to black American men and seldom date out of their race.unlike Nigerian women.

that is the biggest lie on this thread

baralatie:

unique that black american women are better of than there male counterparts

That’s the only exception and it’s not always true

baralatie:

black american women reflect the view of black american men as regards the word marriage.
therefore it is not as straight forward as one would think

If this were true black American men would be.marrying.other races of women by the loads but they are not.

CanadaOrBust:

That’s the only exception and[b] it’s not always true[/b]

explain this part