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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:31pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
donjazet: How old was Fabregas when he became a perennial bench fodder from 2016. His mate are still running midfield for Madrid and the likes. He never had legs. He was found out as an easy man to press halfway through our title run in 2014/15. He has been the same since he was a teenager. Nothing to do with age. He was a structural liability since youth. Jorginho is young now and still doesn't have legs. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 12:40pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
Ibime:How do you want thunder to fire you for this thing you posted 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:28pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
donjazet: Not sure he has won any individual award in his career. Maybe he won it in church. Instrumentalist Rudiger. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:32pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
Lana1: That's what poor analysts call breaking a stubborn defence with dribbling skills. With time, you will understand football. 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:34pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
iamoyindamola: The day Arsenal became a failure club was the day they replaced men who cover every aspect of midfield like Gilberto and Vieira with structural liabilities like Fabregas 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 1:35pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
OJURONGBE1:Odoi 2 seasons how? And when did Bruno and Jorginho and Kovacic start playing the same position Apart from they are different kinds of players Hmm, ok oh 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 1:41pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
Ibime:come to think of it, this press resistance you guys keep posting. Anyway, was pirlo "press resistant" If press resistance is opposing players rushing a player, I recall Jorginho facing such as Napoli, and holding the ball effectively or releasing the pass quickly. Well then EPL took a toil on him. Or when you speak of a player you just mention their performance in a short period or their playing period? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:48pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: Press resistance is ability to half-turn away from pressing players without mistake. Pirlo had it, but Xavi was the best. Other good players with half-turn from a different mould include Makelele and Dembele. Fabregas has a half-turn but he's not great at it. Jorginho has no half-turn, he just plays the ball back to defence when you press him, or he loses it. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:50pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
To Timbros and his brother donjazet, these are opinions on your Rudiger last season. Don't come and sell a dummy to us, that it was after injury that he became sh1t. He was never Chelsea's standard from the get go. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 2:02pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
Ibime:Where's the primary duty of fabregas |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 2:05pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
donjazet:this is like the best and most intelligent post so far. That's how one mufu quoted me and said there's no height in midfield and as such the team will finishe 8 because Jorginho is there, in mind o was like so it's Magic or Bakayoko he wants in our midfield or who. honestly well I don't think some people can change. The way posts seem to sound so certain and critical like .... Mehn KDB even improved the defensive side of his game, I can imagine what Jorginho would have turned to in Pep's hand considering the players that improved under him. If some are managers eh, players career will just wreck. Most comments here are for fun, trolling so I am glad to find something worth reading. Fans can flip sha. I recall when Fabregas improved defensively, but his usually fatigue during the season loss of form. The same Odoi came back from injury and was benching Pulisic. I just wish our players can maintain their form, like Lampard has been saying. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 2:06pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
It's so funny when I read Chelsea fans say Willian should be given contract extension |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:09pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
iamoyindamola: Till today nobody knows. Too slow to play CAM, too press irrrestitant to play CM. He decided to sit back in DM and become a liability that any team can attack through. Teammates meanwhile have to overcompensate the gaps he leaves and leave their men to come and close spaces everytime someone drifts past him. The one year I saw him play very well as a CAM was 2007 or so. After that, football quickened up and he is too slow to play there in modern football so he decided to become a defensive liability. I will never forget how PSG with 10 men bullied him in UCL in 2014/15. Nigga could not even carry his team past the halfway line against 10 men. Matuidi and Berratti physically locked him in a cage like Atum did to Jehovah. No wonder he had Chelsea completely impotent in UCL and 2 of the 3 years he was a starter, we were beset by midfield weakness and could not make top 4. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 2:11pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
Ibime:did you watch Jorginho in Napoli, or early in the season. I recall one commentator saying Jorginho has to pass side ways because of the limited options Chelsea players provide him to pass. They weren't opening for a pass, so he had to pass to those available. Most of Jorginho passes compared to other DMs were forward passes. Sometimes the kind of players one has around them affects how they play, either better or poorly. I remember how badly pirlo played and performed before Conte. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 2:13pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
Ibime:is Toni Kross press resistant? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:13pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: Yes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:16pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: Good press resistance is receiving the ball on half-turn when someone is on your back and you spin away from them and face forward rather than passing back to defenders. Jorginho cannot spin away from anybody, that's why he passes back. The whole point of press resistance is that your only passing options are backward so you need to spin the player. Jorginho can't do that. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 2:30pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: The stuff about limited options is so true. One major reason Jorginho has had to be passing sideways is lack of movement from his attackers. Then, they will just be circulating the ball. Especially last season, the way teams negated Chelsea was to allow Chelsea have the ball and sit back, because then the players would just be circulating passes instead of making more runs in behind. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 2:31pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
Ibime:I've seen him do that a good number of times actually. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 2:37pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
Word of the day: Press Resistant 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 2:38pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
Let Madrid do mistake and win this league let me see the clown that will mention Hidden Shakushaku's 1 goal and 3 assists as "important contributions" 12 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:40pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: It is well known that you are one of the most clueless commentators here. You just regurgitate transfer rumours and put names on teamsheet like someone playing fantasy football with no knowledge of how the pieces fit together. So you read transfer rumour and put Jorginho in a 2 man midfield with Kante. Where do you know Jorginho to be a lateral midfielder who plays in 2 man midfield. Jorginho can only play in triangular shape because he is solely about the triangles. A midfielder in a 2 man midfield has a different skill set including the ability to drive, travel with the ball and not rely solely on creating triangles. On top of that, na Kante and Jorginho you come partner in a 2 man midfield in a 4-4-2 as if teams do not build up attacking advantages from aerial knockdowns. You know nothing about midfield play my guy. If I say something about midfield it's from experience of many years of playing there and decades of watching midfield and understanding midfielders roles. Any weakness I pinpoint in Chelsea midfield, managers will finally agree with me when they have an opportunity to make a transfer. From pointing out Fabregas weakness in our midfield halfway through our title run, Conte came later and sat him down. From pointing out Mikel and Ramires unsuitability all those years ago, again managers saw them out when they had the opportunity. Even the Bakayoko I begged Chelsea not to sign that he receives the ball blindly and will lose it often. Within weeks, he was exposed and shipped out at season end. We can even go back to when the debate on this board was Mata vs Oscar and I said they are both weaknesses and DeBruyne is the best candidate. Even as recently as 3 weeks ago when you were foolishly building Chelsea future team with Jorginho at the centre, I told you Jorginho is a structural weakness and should not have any future at Chelsea. 3 weeks later, Lampard has locked him in cage like Atum. You keep commentating like a fan, I will continue to give you the managers perspective. The same perspective that had Fabregas riding bench to Monaco and Mikel riding bench for years all the way to China. In a typical football match where midfielders will make 200 presses, you won't see the 20 times in that match Fabregas was unable to make his press effectively and quickly, causing Willian, Kante or Azpi to get dragged out of the man they are pressing to come and help, leaving overload on their side due to Fabregas lack of legs. You will only see the beautiful pass he made to Costa. The difference between what both of us see in the game is due to experience and knowledge of what a midfielder should be providing. 15 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:51pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
BlueMann: You have to do it perfectly 99% of the time if you are to be a deep lying regista. He does not have it. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sniper4real(m): 3:01pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:05pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
A40: Raumdeuter, take this your dog to Real Madrid's thread. We are discussing Chelsea here. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 3:12pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
airmark: You are like a reckless and shameful gambler, one who hides his face in ignominy when his ticket cuts but will come out making noises when only 2 out of your 20 slips enter. Except this time, you haven't even won and you are gallivanting around. Rudiger is a good defender. No defender will perform optimally in a team like ours that is always been chopped and changed. I recall him playing very well with Luiz under sarri. I usually reference sarri because, under him we played the most scintillating attacking football I have ever seen at Chelsea, especially the first half of the season. Sarri had a stable defense partnership and it worked quite well for the most part. if I recall vividly, we had the 3rd best defense in the league, after Liverpool and mancity. Rudiger showed how good he was on the ball. I also remember how good he was for the German national team when they won the confederations cup few years ago. I'm not saying he is the best defender out there. I'm saying he is better than most. Unless Chelsea is buying a world class center back like vvd or varane. We can succeed with him. He just needs a very good partner. You pointing out a random post that criticizes him is just useless, that can also be a rant after a bad game. I could just as easily dig out old posts of Chelsea fans here criticizing John Terry or Barça fans criticizing puyol and pique after bad games. Go to the beginning of this thread and see such after Barça lost to us in UCL. People will always rant emotionally after a loss. It's down to a matured mind to calm down and accept the fact that good players will always have bad days. Meanwhile, tell me how your Krakowiak, coquelin and bellotti are faring? 16 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 3:20pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
It's high time sensible people made more posts on this thread getting tired and bored of the same old crap posted in new ways by the same old farts 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by seankafor(m): 3:27pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
BlueAngel444:you re genius bro This thread needs some restructuring.. Same old shiits, just a different day 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 3:32pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
airmark:Shut up your foolish mouth apoche cra cra. Shame no gree you post again after I showed you Morata actually has a better goal per minute ratio than your baby daddy Belloti. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:35pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
donjazet: Rudiger was/is and will always be a kponkpon defender. He is not meant for Chelsea's standard. He should be playing for Norwich. Thank God, Lampard has put him where he belongs, while we shop for a better replacement for next season. Rudiger should be employed as one of our scouts. It's appalling that this embarrassment of a defender, is who some touted as our best defender. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 3:41pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
donjazet:Even fellow Chelsea fans know Airmark is a deranged he-goat. 12 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 4:03pm On Jul 05, 2020 |
A40: Have you appologised for lying that Morata only played 22 matches this season? Ajakaja40. |
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