A quick question I want to ask and know hearts of peeps.

I have a badass programmer pal. Full stack engineer. Recently did a job for someone, and made some real good cash. Like up to $120,000. The money came from building software for 3 microfinance banks in the country.
He earns over 450,000 Naira as salary here in Nigeria as well. We got talking yesterday and he's telling me he cannot stay in Nigeria, that he's resigning immediately after lock down for airports are over.

His argument is 450,000 Nigerian Naira equals
1,162.97 United States Dollar, wheras in the US / Canada for instance, the salary is way higher.

Question is what do you think ?

Lol, does Nigeria spend dollar?
If he makes let's say 5k$ over there, he won't be any different from someone making 500k here because over there he I'll still spend in $ not naira.. unless he is talking about serene environment which also comes with its own downside like racism and stuffs.

For me 500k# here over 5k$ there anyday anytime

seankafor:
Lol, does Nigeria spend dollar?
If he makes let's say 5k$ over there, he won't be any different from someone making 500k here because over there he I'll still spend in $ not naira.. unless he is talking about serene environment which also comes with its own downside like racism and stuffs.

For me 500k# here over 5k$ there anyday anytime

Um, its 450,000 naira = $1600
His friend went overseas for virtually the same role, he was doing in Nigeria and presently earns $7000/month for remote jobs.
I have been in thoughts... Hence i decided to ask..

gimakon:


Um, its 450,000 naira = $1600
His friend went overseas for virtually the same role, he was doing in Nigeria and presently earns $7000/month for remote jobs.
I have been in thoughts... Hence i decided to ask..

well, he should follow his mind and instincts.. but sometimes things doesn't go that way..

A bird at hand is worth more than thousand in the sky.

seankafor:
well, he should follow his mind and instincts.. but sometimes things doesn't go that way..

A bird at hand is worth more than thousand in the sky.

For me, i suggested if he was going to leave with that $120,000 , he should try to see if he can get at least one remote job first
So if he has
Remote Job + $120,000 then he is good to go. he wont need to worry much...

Cos me, even if na 1m naira i hold, and then I have remote Job, i no stay nigeria o.

What do you think?

gimakon:
A quick question I want to ask and know hearts of peeps.

I have a badass programmer pal. Full stack engineer. Recently did a job for someone, and made some real good cash. Like up to $120,000. The money came from building software for 3 microfinance banks in the country.
He earns over 450,000 Naira as salary here in Nigeria as well. We got talking yesterday and he's telling me he cannot stay in Nigeria, that he's resigning immediately after lock down for airports are over.

His argument is 450,000 Nigerian Naira equals
1,162.97 United States Dollar, wheras in the US / Canada for instance, the salary is way higher.

Question is what do you think ?

Your pal is not telling you the truth.

STENON:
Your pal is not telling you th truth.

He showed me the quotes and the payments o. But let us leave that aside first, What would you do in this case if it were you?

I won't think twice even if am earning more than that I'll still leave this shithole

ZINIBANKS:
I won't think twice even if am earning more than I'll still leave this shithole

pls bro, can i know why??

Stewart883:


Don't mind the fool. I just can understand how Nigerians think.... I doubt what the op said. Bloody liar

No be fight my brother, Its not compulsory you accept what i said. But I said what i heard especially from what my guy said, i dont have to come here to start calling people names and throwing tartums.
Take am easy, have a nice Life.

gimakon:

pls bro, can i know why??

Just leave this shithole when you can
E get why

gimakon:


For me, i suggested if he was going to leave with that $120,000 , he should try to see if he can get at least one remote job first
So if he has
Remote Job + $120,000 then he is good to go. he wont need to worry much...

Cos me, even if na 1m naira i hold, and then I have remote Job, i no stay nigeria o.

What do you think?

Remote jobs have stability issue. You can be fired anytime

mamatwiny:

Remote jobs have stability issue. You can be fired anytime

Na another thing o. but at least shay he cannot use that one while he sources, cos me I would like to have at least a remote job, so i can have something pending when I see a fulltime stable job.. I advised him on that note as well.

ZINIBANKS:

Just leave this shithole when you can
E get why

hehehhhehehe, u day vex o

He needs to leave immidetialy, Country like United States, Canada and The UK pay extremely high to programmer and developer with high level skills...

Let him apply for work Visa or find his way there and apply with a permit... The pay is crazy

He fit escape now if he get chance o,,time go reach to enter any country go dey triple hard

gimakon:


hehehhhehehe, u day vex o

E get why my brother. Ppl that are working in multinationals are escaping In droves and you are telling someone on 450k to stay back? Just use this Covid period for eg, countries are paying their citizens to stay safe, while here ppl are locked down for 2 weeks or more with no palliative. In advanced countries, basic things are not your problem. Govt will subsidize for food via food banks, housing, child support etc. In Naija, if your family don't have money to send u to University, e don be for u. But in saner climes, you can take student loan and go to school and start paying back after you have started working. Lots of student jobs for students and even grants. As long as you are healthy and hard-working, there is something to do. Here, you see a graduate without job after 3years of graduating. To even raise money to start business is another issue.

My brother, e really get why.

stacyadams:
He fit escape now if he get chance o,,time go reach to enter any country go dey triple hard

It is already happening naa. German student visa invitation for interview is now over the fence except you have learnt the language. I don't know if it has gotten better this month. Canada is now a battle of the Titans. USA IS banned for Nigerians, even ppl that are currently working on H1B Visa in USA are running to Canada and Australia cos no more renewal for them. To get state nomination or even federal nomination for Australia is so competitive that ppl are now queuing for regional visa despite the strict rules and same cost.etc etc Assessment that used to take 3 months b4 is now 5months cos of the increased number of ppl processing.
There will be a time that ppl will seek to leave but won't be able to again despite their money.

mamatwiny:


It is already happening naa. German student visa invitation for interview is now over the fence except you have learnt the language. I don't know if it has gotten better this month. Canada is now a battle of the Titans. USA IS banned for Nigerians, even ppl that are currently working on H1B Visa in USA are running to Canada and Australia cos no more renewal for them. To get state nomination or even federal nomination for Australia is so competitive that ppl are now queuing for regional visa despite the strict rules and same cost.etc etc Assessment that used to take 3 months b4 is now 5months cos of the increased number of ppl processing.
There will be a time that ppl will seek to leave but won't be able to again despite their money.

Na so..

mamatwiny:


E get why my brother. Ppl that are working in multinationals are escaping In droves and you are telling someone on 450k to stay back? Just use this Covid period for eg, countries are paying their citizens to stay safe, while here ppl are locked down for 2 weeks or more with no palliative. In advanced countries, basic things are not your problem. Govt will subsidize for food via food banks, housing, child support etc. In Naija, if your family don't have money to send u to University, e don be for u. But in saner climes, you can take student loan and go to school and start paying back after you have started working. Lots of student jobs for students and even grants. As long as you are healthy and hard-working, there is something to do. Here, you see a graduate without job after 3years of graduating. To even raise money to start business is another issue.

My brother, e really get why.

Hehehehehehe, I tell u. This country really get as e be

seankafor:
Lol, does Nigeria spend dollar?
If he makes let's say 5k$ over there, he won't be any different from someone making 500k here because over there he I'll still spend in $ not naira.. unless he is talking about serene environment which also comes with its own downside like racism and stuffs.

For me 500k# here over 5k$ there anyday anytime

LOL.

1. A programmer will make more than $5k monthly by far.
2. Even if he makes only $5k monthly........$5k in US will go much more than N500k in Nigeria and he will save more than he will ever save in Nigeria.
3. Forget how much he makes in Nigeria.......this country na suffer.

What is really important is for him to leave legally if the opportunity comes because if he plans to be an illegal immigrant he will be jumping from a frying pan to fire.

If your friend is as good as you said, then by all means he should travel. Senior devs in US here make atleast on the average $130k per annum. That's about $10k+ every month. If he saves his money very well, that's a lot of cash!

there's no point for him to stay. I'm very sure your friend uses Apple laptop and he might be half way through a job. if policeman called SARS sees that and see codes on his laptop gbam yahoo boy. he will be harassed. and forced to part with money.

in January $1=350
June $1=450.
dec$1=??!

as a young guy in Nigeria you're not expected to be rich if you are and since you work remotely from home. boom your smiling neighbors will snitch and call efcc to arrest you.

you're swimming against the muddy tide.

in foreign countries the sky is your limits.

even if you set up your room with 10 laptop insofar you didn't breach security no problem.

you will be exposed to more opportunities.

PaulSimon2020:
If your friend is as good as you said, then by all means he should travel. Senior devs in US here make atleast on the average $130k per annum. That's about $10k+ every month. If he saves his money very well, that's a lot of cash!

10k/month a lot of cash?
Have you considered federal and state taxes, mortgage/high rent, bills of all kinds, car, health and home insurances in that 10k?
By the time Trump's Amelica system deal with you finish eeh, if you go home with 5k from that amount, na miracle unless ofcourse you have Igbotic sense.

J111333:
10k/month a lot of cash?
Have you considered federal and state taxes, mortgage/high rent, bills of all kinds, car, health and home insurances in that 10k?
By the time Trump's Amelica system deal with you finish eeh, if you go home with 5k from that amount, na miracle unless ofcourse you have Igbotic sense.

10k a month is a lot of money. 120k a year.
Unless the person is engulfed in bad debts, 10k is more than enough even for a family.
Which tax go run with person dry with 10k salary.


What is the median salary in US states.
Even in States with the highest cost of living, their average salary is hinged at 75 to 80k so why would you say 10k a month salary is not good enough.

And what the fvck is he still doing in this shithole?

J111333:
10k/month a lot of cash?
Have you considered federal and state taxes, mortgage/high rent, bills of all kinds, car, health and home insurances in that 10k?
By the time Trump's Amelica system deal with you finish eeh, if you go home with 5k from that amount, na miracle unless ofcourse you have Igbotic sense.

This your statement is full of ignorance.

Earning $10k is a lot of cash.

Most US residents don't even earn close to $10k monthly (reported median wage for 2019 was less than 50k per year).

Except the fellow is a spendthrift, you can easily save 5k from a monthly income of 10k even with taxes, rent/mortgage and student loans.....and saving 5k monthly is saving a lot of money.