changedinchrist:
I see there's a bandwagon here.

Are you JW? I believe what my bible teaches me not what any church does.
Isn't it this same OP, I cant remember that said somewhere that those who don't believe in Jesus as the only way are still okay? Correct me if i'm wrong.

The point here is clear Sir.
Rozz (OP) is just hearing for the first time that some Churches don't believe in the TRINITY but she's moved with the way JWs have defended their beliefs with the scriptures.
Someone said "it's not only JWs that refute the TRINITY"
So that's why it becomes necessary for anyone coming to introduce himself, his church and go straight to what his church teaches about the TRINITY!

Rozz:
I'm still wondering why people hide the church they attend,is it such a big deal?

I wanted to stop commenting as i see the immersion of falsehood in a bandwagon setting. No wonder.

But why do you need to know the church I attend. I search the scriptures myself through the holy spirit to know the truth.

Also answer me before i leave this bandwagon, Aren't you the same person on another thread (can't remember) that said those who don't believe in jesus as the only way to the father are not damned ?

Maximus69:


The point here is clear Sir.
Rozz (OP) is just hearing for the first time that some Churches don't believe in the TRINITY but she's moved with the way JWs have defended their beliefs with the scriptures.
Someone said "it's not only JWs that refute the TRINITY"
So that's why it becomes necessary for anyone coming to introduce himself, his church and go straight to what his church teaches about the TRINITY!

I believe what my bible teaches about trinity. Since I got saved supernaturally, I search the scriptures myself and not affiliated with any church. So that has no bearing on my point. I'm pointing out truth not concerned about any church preamble

changedinchrist:
I wanted to stop commenting as i see the immersion of falsehood in a bandwagon setting. No wonder.

But why do you need to know the church I attend. I search the scriptures myself through the holy spirit to know the truth.

Also answer me before i leave this bandwagon, Aren't you the same person on another thread (can't remember) that said those who don't believe in jesus as the only way to the father are not damned ?

yes I am the one and the topic was "my pastor said even some non Christians will make heaven "

Rozz:
yes I am the one and the topic was "my pastor said even some non Christians will make heaven "

Yes that's according to Romans 1 on the inexusable inherent conscience of man exposed to the true knowledge of God in Jesus even if they are not christians in the cultural sense

That's not what i'm saying. I remember you somewhere saying muslims who reject christ sacrifice and only path would still make heaven. Correct me if i'm wrong?

changedinchrist:
Yes that's according to Romans 1 on the inexusable inherent conscience of man exposed to the true knowledge of God in Jesus even if they are not christians in the cultural sense

That's not what i'm saying. I remember you somewhere saying muslims who reject christ sacrifice and only path would still make heaven. Correct me if i'm wrong?

lol, I have said so many things ooo, maybe I did say that

Rozz:
I'm still wondering why people hide the church they attend,is it such a big deal?

I told you earlier that they're all rumour bearers with nothing to say on the topic!

Jesus sent his followers out to preach and teach people all the things having to do with salvation {Matthew 28:19-20} but misinformed churchgoers are saying the holy spirit should do the teaching, yet they're here and there arguing profusely everyday!

Haba why not practice what they say? If it's the holy spirit that will do the teaching and they agree that it's not compulsory they have the same line of thought, then why arguing on issues having to do with salvation?

Well he has ran away now, thanks to you and Tatime for allowing my friend to go without telling us the name of his own Church or what his church taught him about TRINITY!

Rozz:
lol, I have said so many things ooo, maybe I did say that

Wow, you can't even accept the most fundamental truth of the scriptures. Well, if you still believe that despite them being open to the knowledge of christ sacrifice they are not damned. Then I believe you have a long way to go. You are going against Jesus's teaching, against his admonition, against the inspired words of the apostle and against the infallible word of God.

Bye, don't' think I can remain on this thread..clouded with a stench of scriptural rebellion

Maximus69:


I told you earlier that they're all rumour bearers with nothing to say on the topic!

Jesus sent his followers out to preach and teach people all the things having to do with salvation {Matthew 28:19-20} but misinformed churchgoers are saying the holy spirit should do the teaching, yet they're here and there arguing profusely everyday!

Haba why not practice what they say? If it's the holy spirit that will do the teaching and they agree that it's not compulsory they have the same line of thought, then why arguing on issues having to do with salvation?

Well he has ran away now, thanks to you and Tatime for allowing my friend to go without telling us the name of his own Church or what his church taught him about TRINITY!

Delusion at its highest. So pitiful. My intuitions would be confirmed if truly you are JW. Bye

changedinchrist:
Wow, you can't even accept the most fundamental truth of the scriptures. Well, if you still believe that despite them being open to the knowledge of christ sacrifice they are not damned. Then I believe you have a long way to go. You are going against Jesus's teaching, against his admonition, against the inspired words of the apostle and against the infallible word of God.

Bye, don't' think I can remain on this thread..clouded with a stench of scriptural rebellion

no harm in asking questions and getting answers.Several of you have come and gone,so no big deal. bye sir

changedinchrist:


Delusion at its highest. So pitiful. My intuitions would be confirmed if truly you are JW. Bye

next time be more equipped before you engage a jw

changedinchrist:
I believe what my bible teaches about trinity. Since I got saved supernaturally, I search the scriptures myself and not affiliated with any church. So that has no bearing on my point. I'm pointing out truth not concerned about any church preamble

So if you don't have anything to do with Church and you're aware that there are thousands of Churches out there teaching contradicting things about the same topic, then you should have at least go straight to what this so called holy spirit taught you PERSONALLY and not talking about any Church or religious group!
You sound confused when you're asked a question then instead of going straight to the answer, you begin beating about the bush pointlessly.
Nobody is interested in what the exmembers of any Religion are saying after living their group.
What we're discussing here is the correct definition of TRINITY. Many commentators have typed so much and they all claimed some holy spirit/ghost taught them yet they're not in agreement!
So just go straight to what your own holy spirit/ghost have to say on the topic of discuss Sir!

Rozz:
no harm in asking questions and getting answers.Several of you have come and gone,so no big deal. bye sir

Okay. Sorry for being harsh. It was just so shocking that any christian would believe that. Even the cults of Mormons and JWs dont.

But you can send a PM on this. I would gladly answer. We could discuss better on all your points

God bless

Rozz:
next time be more equipped before you engage a jw

Be more equipped. Lol. They are easily debatable. So easy. But I know when to avoid scriptural rebellion. See Matthew 7:6. I have experienced it a lot in my apologetics against atheists, muslims, buddhists, cults of mormons and JWs.

God bless

Rozz:
next time be more equipped before you engage a jw

My dear, the guy is as empty as his pastors!

Nobody wanted him to argue, simply introduce yourself, the name of your church and what your church teaches about TRINITY, PERIOD!

Note what he said that his church teachings is of no importance to him, it's the PERSONAL spirit directing him that matters!

But he now wants what his PERSONAL spirit says to be binding on others even when it has nothing to do with the place where he worships!

Walahi Talahi TRINITY is confirmed madness!

changedinchrist:
In addition to my post above, Here's a website : https://www.4witness.org/ . There are others. The founders and members were ex-JW and they mentor/help others who leave the cult of JWs and Mormons. They help ex-Mormons too - another false church.

Here's the a good YT of a lady who also left the cult , Go through the videos on this channels well to see clearly all their blasphemous doctrines and shredding of their arguments:

https://www.youtube.com/user/witforjesus/videos

Adios

You stumbled onto the wrong thread boy

changedinchrist:
Be more equipped. Lol. They are easily debatable. So easy. But I know when to avoid scriptural rebellion. See Matthew 7:6. I have experienced it a lot in my apologetics against atheists, muslims, buddhists, cults of mormons and JWs. God bless

So what you've done so far on this thread is presenting the videos of those who left some religious groups and claiming some holy spirit/ghost taught you PERSONALLY when the church you're attending don't even know what this PERSONAL spirit taught you on TRINITY.

OK Sir thanks, God bless you!

where is fake wealthy pastor johnw47 the night operator

DappaD:

You stumbled onto the wrong thread boy

Yes you are right. I'm leaving now. The stench and foolishness is unbearable for me. Matthew 7:6.

@Rozz, to add finally, Apologetics is usually harder to atheists because of their objective moral block. Although I have found a way around some but because only the father can draw a man to christ through his holyspirit, it still dependent on the freedom of their moral block of objectivity which makes them defy God. Apologetics to Muslims is the next difficult from experience and experience of scholarly apologists , like William Lain Craig, Ravi Zacharias etc because of divergence from the abrahamic roots to a route against the core principles of salvation.

The rest are a bit easier cos of the backing of scriptures and the human foundations of their cults (Mormons/JWs) or existential spiritualism (Buddishts)

God bless

Bye

DappaD:

You stumbled onto the wrong thread boy

He entered one chance!

He will soon return when he finds more morOns to support his PERSONAL teacher who teaches him secretly but can't agree with students of his so called holy spirit/ghost. Even what the Church he attends says on TRINITY doesn't count!

changedinchrist:
Yes you are right. I'm leaving now. [s]The stench and foolishness is unbearable for me[/s]. Matthew 7:6.

@Rozz, to add finally, Apologetics is usually harder to atheists because of an objective moral block. Although I have found a way around some but because only the father can draw a man to christ through his holyspirit, it still dependent on the freedom of their moral block of objectivity which makes them defy God. Apologetics to Muslims is the next difficult from experience and experience of scholarly apologists , like William Lain Craig, Ravi Zacharias etc because of divergence from the abrahamic roots to a route against the core principles of salvation.

The rest are a bit easier cos of the backing of scriptures and the human foundations of their cults (Mormons/JWs) or existential spiritualism (Buddishts)

God bless

Bye

Don't try to act immature here, it's not allowed
Why should anybody listen to what your holy ghost taught you personally? You even came to this thread to post links to useless apostate websites wanting to argue what you don't know about I'll deal with you just wait

Maximus69:

He entered one chance!

He will soon return when he finds more morOns to support his PERSONAL teacher who teaches him secretly but can't agree with students of his so called holy spirit/ghost. Even what the Church he attends says on TRINITY doesn't count!

The young man doesn't even know what's been transpiring in the previous pages

changedinchrist:
Yes you are right. I'm leaving now. The stench and foolishness is unbearable for me. Matthew 7:6.
@Rozz, to add finally, Apologetics is usually harder to atheists because of their objective moral block. Although I have found a way around some but because only the father can draw a man to christ through his holyspirit, it still dependent on the freedom of their moral block of objectivity which makes them defy God. Apologetics to Muslims is the next difficult from experience and experience of scholarly apologists , like William Lain Craig, Ravi Zacharias etc because of divergence from the abrahamic roots to a route against the core principles of salvation.
The rest are a bit easier cos of the backing of scriptures and the human foundations of their cults (Mormons/JWs) or existential spiritualism (Buddishts)
God bless
Bye

It's OK byebye.
Next time when you get to a place, try to know if you are equipped enough to mingle with people commenting.
Nobody asked you questions about Muslims, Buddhists, Mormons or JWs.
TRINITY is the topic. You said your church is useless as far as you know on scriptural truth so your spirit is your teacher. Go straight and tell the forum what your spirit teaches on TRINITY that's all!

fake wealthy pastor johnw47 is clearly on morning duty lol ,he will come later when he's off duty with his usual quotes to rant

DappaD:

Don't try to act immature here, it's not allowed
Why should anybody listen to what your holy ghost taught you personally? You even came to this thread to post links to useless apostate websites wanting to argue what you don't know about I'll deal with you just wait

They thought their cheap lies can deceive true Christians, instead of saying he agreed to become a worshiper of the god of confusion.

How can the same spirit from God teach you something that doesn't make you agree with fellow worshipers of the same God in your place of worship?
Then about TRINITY each person has a personal definition, so those who wants to know exactly how the Trinity should be defined like Rozz will become evildoers simply because they don't want going about with delusion!

Satan can blind people o!

Rozz:
fake wealthy pastor johnw47 is clearly on morning duty lol ,he will come later when he's off duty with his usual quotes to rant

When he's released, he will start all over again quoting his usual Hellfire stuff then likes from his deceptive cohorts will give him the impetus to continue ranting!

Maximus69:

When he's released, he will start all over again quoting his usual Hellfire stuff then likes from his deceptive cohorts will give him the impetus to continue ranting!

he seems a very young boy with his aggressiveness

Rozz:
he seems a very young boy with his aggressiveness

The brain of Churchgoers don't grow even when they're 90 years if you ask them anything about their beliefs, it's either "the spirit will teach you" or they start beating about the bush in a bid to influence your thoughts.
But once you're trying to make a firm stand on what should be applicable to all, then you'll be seen as an AntiChrist.
So don't underestimate Satan's ability to blur people's senses, those who were behaving like kids to implicate Jesus were old enough to be his grandpa!

Maximus69:


They thought their cheap lies can deceive true Christians, instead of saying he agreed to become a worshiper of the god of confusion.

How can the same spirit from God teach you something that doesn't make you agree with fellow worshipers of the same God in your place of worship?
Then about TRINITY each person has a personal definition, so those who wants to know exactly how the Trinity should be defined like Rozz will become evildoers simply because they don't want going about with delusion!

Satan can blind people o!

He then tried to play the guilt card
Next time he'll know better not to wander about the territory of Jehovah's Witnesses

DappaD:

He then tried to play the guilt card
Next time he'll know better not to wander about the territory of Jehovah's Witnesses

Satan is fighting bitterly to keep Rozz in the midst of his confused victims but since the young lady wants clarity which of course is the opposite of delusion, the next move is to make her feel like she's either evil or confused.
Thank God she wants to know the truth not some deceivers who will just fabricate her own opinion and hide under their Mysterio TRINITY! Revelations 17:5

Rozz:
i wonder who is liking your comments fake wealthy pastor johnw47

poor oh so duh lie lie rozz, you are tormented that someone likes my comments
and you cannot stop lying, you are so like your daddy:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rozz:
i wonder who is liking your comments fake wealthy pastor johnw47

Maximus69:



LIKES costs deceivers nothing my dear!

The very day Jesus was sentenced to death, the Roman governor (Pontius Pilate) brought Jesus forward before a large number of people who are all Jews, amongst whom Jesus performed so many wonderful works and made them feel relieved out of the hands of extortioners like the Pharisees,Saddusees,Scribes,Priests and others Rabbis. Matthew 27:18-19
Now think about how Pontius Pilate (Roman) felt when this Jews spoke unanimously saying "we prefer the release of Barrabas (a notorious criminal) to Jesus of Nazareth" Matthew 27:20-21
Pontius now ask them "what should i do with Jesus?" unanimously again they all shouted "execute him! execute him!! execute him!!!" Matthew 27:22-23
So my dear young lady, don't be surprised when people you thought are intelligent persons prefer johnw47's pointless comments.
The world prefer darkness to light {John 3:19} therefore their LIKES shouldn't surprise you!

Rozz:
it will be no other person than the snake man achorladey who is liking his comments.Good morning sir

Maximus69:


Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa my dear, don't say that!

Only God knows the heart of men, you just tell them what you know about God's judicial decisions.
If anyone wants to live up to the standard fine, and if anyone rejects it okay, but make it clear to everyone that God's judicial decisions remains and there is no compromise.

They may like his comments now because it's in support of their hypocritical alliance but the truth is where else does this same Johnw47 makes sound comments on other threads that attracts a single like or share?

You will know the truth my dear and the truth will set you free from their hypocritical alliance

you false jw's psycho mad max and lie lie rozz are jealous that someone likes my comments, laugh
and of course your nonsensical gossiping - lies are never ending:


Mat_7:15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.


Mat 23:15  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Pro_26:11  As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly.

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.