Janosky:

Johnw FRAUD CALLING these Scriptures
(Matthew 10:32-40 and Revelations 3:5,12.
1 Corinthians 3:23, 1Corinthians 11:1)

LIEs already CONFIRM your status....
Triune IDOL WORSHIPPER DEY condemn the words of God's servants in his own Bible

dimwit lying pharisee fraud jw janosky

what is this your confusion, try posting again, more slowly this time perhaps

yes i belong to Christ and Christ belongs to God(Father)
and yes i am Christ's and Christ is God's(Fathers)
and yes again i am of Christ and christ is of God(Father)

what are you trying to say oh big confused dullard mumu janosky

DappaD:

I hope you know the “weeds” in Jesus' illustration stand for false and pretense Christians?
Charles Taze Russel and his associates, who were ardent students of the Bible rejected the false and unscriptural doctrines of the churches then and studied the Bible to get the true understanding of Bible's original and pure teachings. So since the ‘weeds’ in Jesus' illustration refer to false Christians, how are CT Russel and his associates now the ‘weeds’ ?

Don't bother to explain what the parable meant. The parable is clear enough. What should be your area of concern is the below......

Don't forget TRUE CHRISTIANITY ceased to exist after the DEATH of the apostles(+/-100 C.E)......according to teachings of JWs. Meaning all WHEAT are DEAD.

JESUS parable didn't say all WHEAT dies. In fact it didn't say the WHEAT DIES rather both grow till HARVEST.

Who were his associates and from where did they all including RUSSELL COME FROM? A. WEEDS B. WHEATS.( don't forget all WHEAT are died before this particular time)

You said they REJECTED unscriptural doctrines. Interesting! What was their beliefs before REJECTION started(who taught them what they rejected) who baptized all of this associate including RUSSELL? A. Weeds B. Wheats

Janosky:

Johnw FRAUD CALLING these Scriptures
(Matthew 10:32-40 and Revelations 3:5,12.
1 Corinthians 3:23, 1Corinthians 11:1)

LIEs already CONFIRM your status....
Triune IDOL WORSHIPPER DEY condemn the words of God's servants in his own Bible

dimwit dullard lying pharisee fraud jw janosky

i asked you to post the verses, where did i call them lies?
oh great false accuser like your daddy the devil:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

achorladey:


Who were his associates and from where did they all including RUSSELL COME FROM? A. WEEDS B. WHEATS.

You said they REJECTED unscriptural doctrines. Interesting! What was their beliefs before REJECTION started who baptized all of this associate including RUSSELL?

Why do their past beliefs matter? After one becomes a Jehovah's Witness, does anyone keep bringing up his past beliefs?
You, young man are looking for holes where there aren't any.

achorladey:


Who were his associates and from where did they all including RUSSELL COME FROM? A. WEEDS B. WHEATS.

You said they REJECTED unscriptural doctrines. Interesting! What was their beliefs before REJECTION started who baptized all of this associate including RUSSELL?

Since you want to hinge on the matter, before Paul became a follower of Jesus Christ, you know he was a persecutor of God's true people. After he was changed, what did his ministry have to do with his past?

DappaD:

Since you want to hinge on the matter, before Paul became a follower of Jesus Christ, you know he was a persecutor of God's true people. After he was changed, what did his ministry have to do with his past?

I thought you understand the whole parable ni and you brought an example of Paul that did not fit into the whole scenario. Was Paul a FALSE CHRISTIAN (WEEDS) ni?

achorladey:


I thought you understand the whole parable in and you brought an example of Paul that did not fit into the whole scenario. Was Paul a FALSE CHRISTIAN (WEEDS) ni?

I am saying that a person's past doesn't matter when he has come to an accurate knowledge of the truth.

false jw janosky has had his few lies, his sewer mouth posts, and fled once again

DappaD:

Why do their past beliefs matter? After one becomes a Jehovah's Witness, does anyone keep bringing up his past beliefs?
You, young man are looking for holes where there aren't any.

DappaD: Why do their past beliefs matter?

Achorladey: How did Peter started his preaching work on the day of Pentecost if past believe DON'T matter?

DappaD: After one becomes a Jehovah's Witness, does anyone keep bringing up his past beliefs

Achorladey: Do JWS bring up their past beliefs for adjustment, readjustment and the light becoming brighter or not? If it doesn't matter indeed.

DappaD: You, young man are looking for holes where there aren't any.

Achorladey: I thought you understand the parable well well. Now it is hole you are talking about. Didn't I ask you are you sure you are among the WHEATS according to the teaching of the ORGANIZATION you belong?

DappaD:

I am saying that a person's past doesn't matter when he has come to an accurate knowledge of the truth.

Philippians 3:
3 For it is we who are the circumcision, we who serve God by his Spirit, who boast in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh— 4 though I myself have reasons for such confidence.

If someone else thinks they have reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more: 5 circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee; 6 as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for righteousness based on the law, faultless.

7 But whatever were gains to me I now consider loss for the sake of Christ. 8 What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ.

Why was Paul referring to his past here in his TEACHING since he has ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH? Does it matter indeed?


Note this is what history means......... History is an account of what actually happened in the past which has a link to what is happening at present and can help in planning or projecting for the future.

In other words, history is about yesterday, today and tomorrow.

brocab:
You haven't read these verses?
{Matthew 5:43-48}
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? ...
{1 John 4:8} Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.
But I believe this one is for you personally..
{Proverbs 6:16-19}
There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, [b]a false witness who breathes out lies,[/c[/b]olor][color=#990000] and one who sows discord among brothers...

Triune IDOL WORSHIPPING PERVERT bearing false witness

AristocraticMe:
The Bible stated it not JW...... if you read the new testament during creation, you will realise God said LET US make man in our own image, showing that it more than one person present there.

Genesis 1:27 "He,Yahweh created man in his own image..", is " He" triune?

"He, His" in Genesis 1:27, is how many persons?

Yahweh spoke to His Son NOT a fellow triune God. Hebrews 1:1-2 amplify Genesis 1:26-27.
Jesus and Adam exists in the image of God, go figure it out..

johnw47:


dimwit lying pharisee fraud jw janosky

what is this your confusion, try posting again, more slowly this time perhaps

yes i belong to Christ and Christ belongs to God(Father)
and yes i am Christ's and Christ is God's(Fathers)
and yes again i am of Christ and christ is of God(Father)

what are you trying to say oh big confused dullard mumu janosky

MUMU LIENUS, there is ZERO co-equality in 1 Corinthians 3:23 and 11:3.

MuttleyLaff:
[img]https://s1/images/TruthBarkWrong-Tree.jpg[/img]

Triune/trinity is limited. Infinity is unlimited. Duh.

If only you could just develop some steel balls to answer these three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions, in the same format and numbered up style they are asked, you just might have the blinkers drop off
1/ How did the God appeared to Moses?
2/ How did God reveal Himself to Moses?
3/ God personally appeared to Moses how?

MuttleyLaff:
"Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God; Yahweh is one"
(i.e. Hear, O Israel: Jehovah our God is one Jehovah)"
- Deuteronomy 6:4

God, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are who are the three persons. Each and all are God, is what God has to do with them. The three are one. Jehovah is one.

Now please, stop temporizing or playing for time, but promptly give your responses to those three easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions.

WAYO MuttleyLaff speaking with both sides of his mouth.
MuttleyLaff Trinity is limited.
MuttleyLaff Infinity is unlimited
The joke is on you.

Janosky:


MUMU LIENUS, there is ZERO co-equality in 1 Corinthians 3:23 and 11:3.

lying pharisee false jw janosky

post the verses and then lets discuss them, if you are not to scared that is

achorladey:


DappaD: Why do their past beliefs matter?

Achorladey: How did Peter started his preaching work on the day of Pentecost if past believe DON'T matter?

DappaD: After one becomes a Jehovah's Witness, does anyone keep bringing up his past beliefs

Achorladey: Do JWS bring up their past beliefs for adjustment, readjustment and the light becoming brighter or not? If it doesn't matter indeed.

DappaD: You, young man are looking for holes where there aren't any.

Achorladey: I thought you understand the parable well well. Now it is hole you are talking about. Didn't I ask you are you sure you are among the WHEATS according to the teaching of the ORGANIZATION you belong?

@achorladey
You quite understood what I meant by past beliefs but you want to twist it now.
Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43, 49:
Jesus himself interpreted the illustration.
The sower is the Son of man, Jesus Christ.
The fine seed are the “sons of the Kingdom” Matthew 13:38
Jesus began to sow the fine seed from Pentecost 33CE when holy spirit was poured out on the disciples, thereby anointing them as God's sons. (Acts 2:33). The fine seed developed into mature wheat as the Christian congregation in the first century grew and took shape. The fine seed was sown so as to gather the number of those who would rule with Jesus in God's Kingdom.
The wheat would bring forth the anointed Christians who will rule as kings with Christ for the 1000 years. Only those who are anointed and have the seal of God on their foreheads and who are the firstfruits will go to heaven to rule as kings and they number a total of 144,000 (2Corinthians 1:22,
James 1:18, Revelation 5:9-10, 7:3-4, 14:1-5)

At Matthew 13:25, Jesus said “while men were sleeping” That is, when the apostles fell asleep in death, the enemy(Satan the Devil) came and oversowed “weeds” in among with wheat and left. Following the death of the apostles, false teachers came into the scene and from then on, a counterfeit form of Christianity was formed. (Acts 20:29,30).These set of people who claim to be Christians are referred to the “weeds” in Jesus' illustration. It is this counterfeit Christianity (starting from the Catholics) which sprung up that bears responsibility for all the spiritual darkness and unjust/violent killings that enveloped Christendom in the Middle Ages.

But the situation was not to remain like that forever, because Jesus said at Matthew 13:30 that both the wheat and the weed would grow together until the “harvest season”. Jesus said the harvest season was the “conclusion of system of things” or the last days (Matthew 13:39)

The people who listened to Jesus knew how difficult it was to tell genuine wheat from weeds. So Jesus was illustrating that for a while, it would be difficult to distinguish true Christians from the counterfeit variety. This does not mean that the Christian congregation ceased to exist, for Jesus promised to continue to guide his spiritual brothers “all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” (Matthew 28:20) Jesus said that the wheat would continue to grow. Even so, through the ages, genuine Christians​ individually or in groups, ​no doubt did their best to adhere to Christ's teachings. But they no longer made up a clearly identifiable, visible body, or organization. They were certainly not identical with the visible apostate religious system that throughout history brought nothing but disgrace and dishonor to the name of Jesus Christ.​ 2 Peter 2:1, 2.
In that harvest season, the wheat would be separated from the weeds and then the weeds would be burned in fire. (Matthew 13:30, 40)
Shortly after the beginning of the last days, in 1919, the separation took place as the true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) were separated from the false Christians. The final outcome for the “weeds” is that they would be burned in fire. Which means that symbolically, they are headed right for eternal destruction since they are already condemned for destruction. (Revelations 20:14, 21:8 ). The false Christians as well as all the rest of Babylon the Great will be completely destroyed or symbolically “burned with fire” at the Great Tribulation (Daniel 12:1, Matthew 24:21, Revelations 17:5-6, 18:4-8, 23)

lying pharisee false jw janosky

^^^ i'm replying to your last post to me,
i'm not searching for other posts where
you may have or have not posted particular verses

enough with your disenjointed attachments
put the bible verses into your posts,
lets be clear and not avoiding and confused, you hear

and then i will show you yet again where you are wrong

achorladey:


Philippians 3:
3 For it is we who are the circumcision, we who serve God by his Spirit, who boast in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh— 4 though I myself have reasons for such confidence.

If someone else thinks they have reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more: 5 circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee; 6 as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for righteousness based on the law, faultless.

7 But whatever were gains to me I now consider loss for the sake of Christ. 8 What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ.

Why was Paul referring to his past here in his TEACHING since he has ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH? Does it matter indeed?


Note this is what history means......... History is an account of what actually happened in the past which has a link to what is happening at present and can help in planning or projecting for the future.

In other words, history is about yesterday, today and tomorrow.

Funny how some debased idiots would be here liking your posts - things they themselves don't even understand It is well

Maximus69:


There was nothing like Christianity throughout the earth before 1919 when Jesus restructured his group and commissioned them once again to continue the preaching and teaching work they were doing in the first century!

Charles Taze Russell and his group did all they could to find out how Jesus established Christianity, himself and many in his time did so many things to get it right but it was in 1919 that Jesus in the spirit reorganized those who were willing to take corrections and began leading them in the work he started before Satan halted it after the death of his Apostles.

So those who came to Africa were politicians not Christians Sir!

In essence what Maximus69 is saying, is that within the time period from the death of the apostles in the first century to 1919, there was no organized group of true Christians on this earth.

Rozz:
Your tormentor is having a nice time with his wife and you are here cursing everybody,go and get married fake wealthy pastor johnw419

lie lie rozz

no i'm here showing up the lies of you and false jw's

but continue to lie away oh so duh one;

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

DappaD:

@achorladey
You quite understood what I meant by past beliefs but you want to twist it now.
Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43, 49:
Jesus himself interpreted the illustration.
The sower is the Son of man, Jesus Christ.
The fine seed are the “sons of the Kingdom” Matthew 13:38
Jesus began to sow the fine seed from Pentecost 33CE when holy spirit was poured out on the disciples, thereby anointing them as God's sons. (Acts 2:33). The fine seed developed into mature wheat as the Christian congregation in the first century grew and took shape. The fine seed was sown so as to gather the number of those who would rule with Jesus in God's Kingdom.
The wheat would bring forth the anointed Christians who will rule as kings with Christ for the 1000 years. Only those who are anointed and have the seal of God on their foreheads and who are the firstfruits will go to heaven to rule as kings and they number a total of 144,000 (2Corinthians 1:22,
James 1:18, Revelation 5:9-10, 7:3-4, 14:1-5)

At Matthew 13:25, Jesus said “while men were sleeping” That is, when the apostles fell asleep in death, the enemy(Satan the Devil) came and oversowed “weeds” in among with wheat and left. Following the death of the apostles, false teachers came into the scene and from then on, a counterfeit form of Christianity was formed. (Acts 20:29,30).These set of people who claim to be Christians are referred to the “weeds” in Jesus' illustration. It is this counterfeit Christianity (starting from the Catholics) which sprung up that bears responsibility for all the spiritual darkness and unjust/violent killings that enveloped Christendom in the Middle Ages.

But the situation was not to remain like that forever, because Jesus said at Matthew 13:30 that both the wheat and the weed would grow together until the “harvest season”. Jesus said the harvest season was the “conclusion of system of things” or the last days (Matthew 13:39)

The people who listened to Jesus knew how difficult it was to tell genuine wheat from weeds. So Jesus was illustrating that for a while, it would be difficult to distinguish true Christians from the counterfeit variety. This does not mean that the Christian congregation ceased to exist, for Jesus promised to continue to guide his spiritual brothers “all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” (Matthew 28:20) Jesus said that the wheat would continue to grow. Even so, through the ages, genuine Christians​ individually or in groups, ​no doubt did their best to adhere to Christ's teachings. But they no longer made up a clearly identifiable, visible body, or organization. They were certainly not identical with the visible apostate religious system that throughout history brought nothing but disgrace and dishonor to the name of Jesus Christ.​ 2 Peter 2:1, 2.
In that harvest season, the wheat would be separated from the weeds and then the weeds would be burned in fire. (Matthew 13:30, 40)
Shortly after the beginning of the last days, in 1919, the separation took place as the true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) were separated from the false Christians. The final outcome for the “weeds” is that they would be burned in fire. Which means that symbolically, they are headed right for eternal destruction. (Revelations 20:14, 21:8 ). The false Christians as long as all the rest of Babylon the Great will be completely destroyed or symbolically “burned with fire” at the Great Tribulation (Daniel 12:1, Matthew 24:21, Revelations 17:5-6, 18:4-8, 23)

DappaD: You quite understood what I meant by past beliefs but you want to twist it now.

Achorladey: Oga how many times did I address that past belief of a THING. Oh you have forgotten Paul scenario so quickly.

DappaD: Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43, 49:

Achorladey: Parable of WHEATS and WEEDS very good. Now from the history you wrote up there, from where did RUSSSEL came from? Who were the associates of RUSSELL and where did they come from?

A. Wheats B. Weeds

Who baptized RUSSELL and his associates? A. Weeds B. Wheats.


DappaD: Even so, through the ages, genuine Christians​ individually or in groups, ​no doubt did their best to adhere to Christ's teachings. But they no longer made up a clearly identifiable, visible body, or organization.

Achorladey: Can you please mention the GROUPS or individuals under consideration here?

DappaD: They were certainly not identical with the visible apostate religious system that throughout history brought nothing but disgrace and dishonor to the name of Jesus Christ

Achorladey: Can you tell me just one believe of RUSSELL that was Identifiable with APOSTATE religious system. I only need one. Please THINK carefully. Many things hang on that BELIEVE.

DappaD: But the situation was not to remain like that forever, because Jesus said at Matthew 13:30 that both the wheat and the weed would grow together until the “harvest season”. Jesus said the harvest season was the “conclusion of system of things” or the last days.

Achorladey: In reality there were TRUE CHRISTIANS and TRUE CHRISTIANITY before RUSSELL in the years +/-100C.E till the birth of RUSSELL. Very good.

First inform your brother Maximus69 about that.

Second tell us the TRUE Christian(WHEAT) that taught RUSSELL what he knows back then and made him reject teaching of FALSE CHRISTIANS(WEEDS).

DappaD: Shortly after the beginning of the last days, in 1919, the separation took place as the true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) were separated from the false Christians.

Achorladey: How was the separation done?

DappaD: The false Christians as long as all the rest of Babylon the Great will be completely destroyed or symbolically “burned with fire” at the Great Tribulation.

Achorladey: when you tell us who baptized the individuals or groups that were associates of RUSSELL and RUSSELL himself. We will know who get burnt in the FIRE.

DappaD:

In essence what Maximus69 is saying, is that within the time period from the death of the apostles in the first century to 1919, there was no organized group of true Christians on this earth.

the question is

Were their TRUE CHRISTIANS(WHEAT) from 100 C.E to 1800 Yes or No?

Does TRUE CHRISTIANITY exist from 100 C.E to 1800? Yes/ No

Is it ORGANIZED GROUP that identifies TRUE CHRISTIAN and CHRISTIANITY from 100 C.E to 1800? Yes/No

DappaD:

Funny how some debased idiots would be here liking your posts - things they themselves don't even understand It is well

The likes dey disturb your response ni? that make you call them DEBASED IDIOTS. SMH

Maximus69:


Rozz is just a young girl,

yes lying false jw mad max

she is a young girl with a big lying mouth like you false jw's have
and you are also encouraging her to lie further, to your deprement

Mat_23:15  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

achorladey:


The likes dey disturb your response ni? that make you call them DEBASED IDIOTS. SMH

false jw's and other liars hate truth tellers getting likes

johnw47:

lie lie rozz with your usual nonsense
i dragged you around from post to post and kept you up all last night, you had to sleep all day, laugh you are such a unintelligent duh rozz, aren't you

you think so fake wealthy pastor Johnw419?night crawler

johnw47:


false jw's and other liars hate truth tellers getting likes

This Dappad will come back and say he didnt insult anyone or accuse us of being the ones who insulted him first like his brothers do here.

achorladey:


This Dappad will come back and say he didnt insult anyone or accuse us of being the ones who insulted him first like his brothers do here.

The snake man, are you the one liking the rubbish comments of fake wealthy pastor Johnw419

Rozz:
The snake man, are you the one liking the rubbish comments of fake wealthy pastor Johnw419

Ask the moderators they will tell the reasons why the likes are giving you worries

brocab:
Yeh bro-every time this verse comes up-they hide themselves away from it,..
{Matthew 5:43-48}
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? ...

I heard you worshiped idol?

achorladey:


Don't bother to explain what the parable meant. The parable is clear enough. What should be your area of concern is the below......

Don't forget TRUE CHRISTIANITY ceased to exist after the DEATH of the apostles(+/-100 C.E)......according to teachings of JWs. Meaning all WHEAT are DEAD.

JESUS parable didn't say all WHEAT dies. In fact it didn't say the WHEAT DIES rather both grow till HARVEST.

Who were his associates and from where did they all including RUSSELL COME FROM? A. WEEDS B. WHEATS.( don't forget all WHEAT are died before this particular time)

You said they REJECTED unscriptural doctrines. Interesting! What was their beliefs before REJECTION started(who taught them what they rejected) who baptized all of this associate including RUSSELL? A. Weeds B. Wheats

Maximus right now.

johnw47:


dimwit dullard lying pharisee fraud jw janosky

i asked you to post the verses, where did i call them lies?
oh great false accuser like your daddy the devil:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

I like the way you guys think, any one who doesn't agree with your perspective instantly becomes the devil, even you fellow Christian.