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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 7:30am On Jul 08, 2020
Janosky:
WAYO MuttleyLaff speaking with both sides of his mouth.
MuttleyLaff Trinity is limited.
MuttleyLaff Infinity is unlimited
The joke is on you.
You want me to give you attention so you'll start performing more like the clown that you are. "O fẹ gun kiniun lẹsin, ẹrin ẹ pa mi" loosely translated means "you risk your live, attempting to ride a lion, like as if, its a horse, you make me laugh"

If I should throw you a set and couple of easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions, you'll defo wince, go hide and will be able to give answers to them, in the same format and numbered up style they are asked.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:41am On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

Why do their past beliefs matter? After one becomes a Jehovah's Witness, does anyone keep bringing up his past beliefs?
You, young man are looking for holes where there aren't any.
Like I've told you before, a religious book is whatever you want it to be, in this case the Bible, he's right, you're right, we are all right.

This is what you get when many religions and pagan deities are merged into one book.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:47am On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

Since you want to hinge on the matter, before Paul became a follower of Jesus Christ, you know he was a persecutor of God's true people. After he was changed, what did his ministry have to do with his past?
God revealed himself to Paul that killed a lot of Christians, maybe for God to reveal himself to me I need to start butchering, maximus69 what do you think.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:50am On Jul 08, 2020
achorladey:


I thought you understand the whole parable ni and you brought an example of Paul that did not fit into the whole scenario. Was Paul a FALSE CHRISTIAN (WEEDS) ni?
It's impressive how you always stay on point through out the conversion.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:52am On Jul 08, 2020
johnw47:
false jw janosky has had his few lies, his sewer mouth posts, and fled once again


Its 2:00 AM bro, WTF
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:56am On Jul 08, 2020
Janosky:


WAYO MuttleyLaff speaking with both sides of his mouth.
MuttleyLaff Trinity is limited.
MuttleyLaff Infinity is unlimited
The joke is on you.
The mistake Christianity did was to put tittle on God, the moment you give a God a name you've limited him, the moment you give him a gender you've limited him, in other words anything you say about God is blasphemy and you limiting God.

You see why no such God exist?
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:05am On Jul 08, 2020
achorladey:

the question is

Were their TRUE CHRISTIANS(WHEAT) from 100 C.E to 1800 Yes or No?

Does TRUE CHRISTIANITY exist from 100 C.E to 1800? Yes/ No

Is it ORGANIZED GROUP that identifies TRUE CHRISTIAN and CHRISTIANITY from 100 C.E to 1800? Yes/No
I'm not siding anyone, but the original Christians have to be the true Christian, because without them JW won't exist.

All the so called apostle that wrote the Bible wrote it before 1900, hence if no true Christian before then, then the Bible was written by pagans, and Jehovah's wittiness is a religion of pagans.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:08am On Jul 08, 2020
achorladey:


The likes dey disturb your response ni? grin cheesy grin that make you call them DEBASED IDIOTS. SMH
I have added one more like to the comment, he's probably smashing his head on the wall right now.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:10am On Jul 08, 2020
Rozz:
you think so fake wealthy pastor Johnw419?night crawler
Johnw47 dealt with you ruthlessly the last time, you've learnt your lesson and sleep early this time around.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:13am On Jul 08, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
You want me to give you attention so you'll start performing more like the clown that you are. "O fẹ gun kiniun lẹsin, ẹrin ẹ pa mi" loosely translated means "you risk your live, attempting to ride a lion, like as if, its a horse, you make me laugh"

If I should throw you a set and couple of easy, innocent, harmless, simple, direct and straightforward questions, you'll defo wince, go hide and will be able to give answers to them, in the same format and numbered up style they are asked.
Stop high balling your self, if you have a mind blowing question then ask.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:23am On Jul 08, 2020
@ Maximus69

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:41am On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Maximus I'm going to leave our conversation and be honest with you.

Do you know without the Yahweh Christians, the Bible wouldn't have spread.

Hmmmmmmmm what they spread back then was misinterpretation of the book not what they supposed to distribute.
Satan killed all the pioneers of Christianity in the first century but he knows that can't be the end of the fight so before Christianity return as an organized group again Satan's indoctrination has spread throughout the earth.
That's why all these misinformed Churchgoers are arguing blindly even when they can't point to any positive achievement of Christendom churches. smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:43am On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

In essence what Maximus69 is saying, is that within the time period from the death of the apostles in the first century to 1919, there was no organized group of true Christians on this earth.

If they don't understand what i'm saying, surely they'll ask but the crookedness in their hearts that's speaking! cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:03am On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
I'm not siding anyone, but the original Christians have to be the true Christian, because without them JW won't exist.

All the so called apostle that wrote the Bible wrote it before 1900, hence if no true Christian before then, then the Bible was written by pagans, and Jehovah's wittiness is a religion of pagans.

You can see that upon all your ridicule and mockery each religionist stick to his religion, so if i were you i'll try to figure out the fact surrounding the Bible.

If you allow hypocrisy to blur your senses to the historical background of the book now, it will be extremely difficult to convince your child who later decides to become a religionist.

I can feel the intensity of the hatred you have for organized religion, so now is the time to prepare for that day when you'll sit before your own child to defend what you believe regarding the Bible, if you're not fully equipped now, i can see you sweating profusely in a bid to debunk the existence of God and your own child will be looking into your eyes saying "Daddy, i know you have been there for me right from the beginning of my life till today but on this matter you have no idea" embarassed

The Bible was completed before the year 100ce it was the churches of Christendom that divided it to chapters and verses but from the moment the last Apostle died, there was no organized group of Christians until the year 1919! smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:04am On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:


Hmmmmmmmm what they spread back then was misinterpretation of the book not what they supposed to distribute.
Satan killed all the pioneers of Christianity in the first century but he knows that can't be the end of the fight so before Christianity return as an organized group again Satan's indoctrination has spread throughout the earth.
That's why all these misinformed Churchgoers are arguing blindly even when they can't point to any positive achievement of Christendom churches. smiley
How can Satan kill all the pioneer of Christianity in the 1st century, when you clearly said no Christian existed till the 19th century, are you drunk.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 9:06am On Jul 08, 2020
achorladey:


DappaD: You quite understood what I meant by past beliefs but you want to twist it now.

Achorladey: Oga how many times did I address that past belief of a THING. Oh you have forgotten Paul scenario so quickly. grin

DappaD: Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43, 49:

Achorladey: Parable of WHEATS and WEEDS very good. Now from the history you wrote up there, from where did RUSSSEL came from? Who were the associates of RUSSELL and where did they come from?

A. Wheats B. Weeds

Who baptized RUSSELL and his associates? A. Weeds B. Wheats.


DappaD: Even so, through the ages, genuine Christians​ individually or in groups, ​no doubt did their best to adhere to Christ's teachings. But they no longer made up a clearly identifiable, visible body, or organization.

Achorladey: Can you please mention the GROUPS or individuals under consideration here?

DappaD: They were certainly not identical with the visible apostate religious system that throughout history brought nothing but disgrace and dishonor to the name of Jesus Christ

Achorladey: Can you tell me just one believe of RUSSELL that was Identifiable with APOSTATE religious system. I only need one. Please THINK carefully. Many things hang on that BELIEVE.

DappaD: But the situation was not to remain like that forever, because Jesus said at Matthew 13:30 that both the wheat and the weed would grow together until the “harvest season”. Jesus said the harvest season was the “conclusion of system of things” or the last days.

Achorladey: In reality there were TRUE CHRISTIANS and TRUE CHRISTIANITY before RUSSELL in the years +/-100C.E till the birth of RUSSELL. Very good.

First inform your brother Maximus69 about that.

Second tell us the TRUE Christian(WHEAT) that taught RUSSELL what he knows back then and made him reject teaching of FALSE CHRISTIANS(WEEDS).

DappaD: Shortly after the beginning of the last days, in 1919, the separation took place as the true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) were separated from the false Christians.

Achorladey: How was the separation done?

DappaD: The false Christians as long as all the rest of Babylon the Great will be completely destroyed or symbolically “burned with fire” at the Great Tribulation.

Achorladey: when you tell us who baptized the individuals or groups that were associates of RUSSELL and RUSSELL himself. We will know who get burnt in the FIRE.










Since you can't even provide a structured rebuttal for what I've said, that would be the end of our discussion undecided
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:09am On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
@ Maximus69

Those are rumours my friend, Jehovah's Witnesses only marry fellow JWs so don't be fooled to believe that it's the husband or the wife of a JW who is depriving his/her partner of blood transfusion.
We have over 8,700,000 baptized JWs globally today, none of us will opt for blood transfusion, we'll rather lay down our lives than to go for a blood transfusion.
So it's each of us that is saying "NO" to blood transfusion not my wife nor am i the one to decide for my wife! smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 9:13am On Jul 08, 2020
achorladey:


DappaD: You quite understood what I meant by past beliefs but you want to twist it now.

Achorladey: Oga how many times did I address that past belief of a THING. Oh you have forgotten Paul scenario so quickly. grin

DappaD: Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43, 49:

Achorladey: Parable of WHEATS and WEEDS very good. Now from the history you wrote up there, from where did RUSSSEL came from? Who were the associates of RUSSELL and where did they come from?

A. Wheats B. Weeds

Who baptized RUSSELL and his associates? A. Weeds B. Wheats.


DappaD: Even so, through the ages, genuine Christians​ individually or in groups, ​no doubt did their best to adhere to Christ's teachings. But they no longer made up a clearly identifiable, visible body, or organization.

Achorladey: Can you please mention the GROUPS or individuals under consideration here?

DappaD: They were certainly not identical with the visible apostate religious system that throughout history brought nothing but disgrace and dishonor to the name of Jesus Christ

Achorladey: Can you tell me just one believe of RUSSELL that was Identifiable with APOSTATE religious system. I only need one. Please THINK carefully. Many things hang on that BELIEVE.

DappaD: But the situation was not to remain like that forever, because Jesus said at Matthew 13:30 that both the wheat and the weed would grow together until the “harvest season”. Jesus said the harvest season was the “conclusion of system of things” or the last days.

Achorladey: In reality there were TRUE CHRISTIANS and TRUE CHRISTIANITY before RUSSELL in the years +/-100C.E till the birth of RUSSELL. Very good.

First inform your brother Maximus69 about that.

Second tell us the TRUE Christian(WHEAT) that taught RUSSELL what he knows back then and made him reject teaching of FALSE CHRISTIANS(WEEDS).

DappaD: Shortly after the beginning of the last days, in 1919, the separation took place as the true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) were separated from the false Christians.

Achorladey: How was the separation done?

DappaD: The false Christians as long as all the rest of Babylon the Great will be completely destroyed or symbolically “burned with fire” at the Great Tribulation.

Achorladey: when you tell us who baptized the individuals or groups that were associates of RUSSELL and RUSSELL himself. We will know who get burnt in the FIRE.










You're asking questions like a child.
Like I said I'm sure you weren't even a publisher
Maybe a Bible student who became uninterested
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:14am On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
How can Satan kill all the pioneer of Christianity in the 1st century, when you clearly said no Christian existed till the 19th century, are you drunk.

This is why i changed it for you the other time that you began avoiding me. Please let's show some manners when chatting, you're entitled to your own opinion while i'm also entitled to mine! smiley

You can ask your questions without the insults! smiley

Satan killed all the pioneers of Christianity before the second century that's why it was easy for the Roman Emperor Constantine to merge pagan festivities with the Apostates claiming Christians in his time. The Bible has been sealed but there was no organized group practicing true Christianity from the second century until 1919! smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:16am On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:


Those are rumours my friend, Jehovah's Witnesses only marry fellow JWs so don't be fooled to believe that it's the husband or the wife of a JW who is depriving his/her partner of blood transfusion.
We have over 8,700,000 baptized JWs globally today, none of us will opt for blood transfusion, we'll rather lay down our lives than to go for a blood transfusion.
So it's each of us that is saying "NO" to blood transfusion not my wife nor am i the one to decide for my wife! smiley
Good for you.

Now what was the religion of the apostles that wrote the Bible.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 9:18am On Jul 08, 2020
achorladey:


The likes dey disturb your response ni? grin cheesy grin that make you call them DEBASED IDIOTS. SMH
Why would it disturb me? This isn't even my first moniker on NL
I can easily go back and login my previous monikers and begin liking all my posts too undecided
I've already answered your questions but in a bid to look sharp before the ones supporting you, you'll keep asking those questions again.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:20am On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Good for you.

Now what was the religion of the apostles that wrote the Bible.

It's the same religion Jesus himself practiced, right from Abel till date, they were all Jehovah's Witnesses! Hebrew 12:1 smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:22am On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:


This is why i changed it for you the other time that you began avoiding me. Please let's show some manners when chatting, you're entitled to your own opinion while i'm also entitled to mine! smiley

You can ask your questions without the insults! smiley

Satan killed all the pioneers of Christianity before the second century that's why it was easy for the Roman Emperor Constantine to merge pagan festivities with the Apostates claiming Christians in his time. The Bible has been sealed but there was no organized group practicing true Christianity from the second century until 1919! smiley
You're lying, this is your comment, no Christian exist before 1919, now they exist but where all killed.

This is not an insult, but even common sense will tell you, you can't kill what never existed.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:24am On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:


It's the same religion Jesus himself practiced, right from Abel till date, they were all Jehovah's Witnesses! Hebrew 12:1 smiley
Jehovah's wittiness is 140 years and going by your new comment Jehovah's wittiness is now 2000 years old, you see why they call you a lair.

Screenshot below, you truly are shameless.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:29am On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
You're lying, this is your comment, no Christian exist before 1919, now they exist but where all killed.

This is not an insult, but even common sense will tell you, you can't kill what never existed.

You can politely ask "how do you mean?" The phrase "are you drunk?" comes from a frustrated Inquisitor!

Jesus established Christianity in the first century, Satan made sure that all the pioneers died before the second century, you were asking about those who came to Africa and traveled to other lands with the Bible, so i told you there is nothing like Christianity before 1919.
I didn't mean Christianity never existed but that what the world knew before 1919 (when Jehovah's Witnesses began the global campaign for God's Kingdom) wasn't Christianity! smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:33am On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:


You can politely ask "how do you mean?" The phrase "are you drunk?" comes from a frustrated Inquisitor!

Jesus established Christianity in the first century,
Satan made sure that all the pioneers died before the second century, you were asking about those who came to Africa and traveled to other lands with the Bible, so i told you there is nothing like Christianity before 1919.
I didn't mean Christianity never existed but that what the world knew before 1919 (when Jehovah's Witnesses began the global campaign for God's Kingdom) wasn't Christianity! smiley
Here's your comment.

Compare the bolded with the first line of this screenshot.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:39am On Jul 08, 2020
Keep lying. Rozz you see whom you associate your self with.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:40am On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD what do you have to say.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 9:52am On Jul 08, 2020
achorladey:


DappaD: You quite understood what I meant by past beliefs but you want to twist it now.

Achorladey: Oga how many times did I address that past belief of a THING. Oh you have forgotten Paul scenario so quickly. grin

DappaD: Matthew 13:24-30, 36-43, 49:

Achorladey: Parable of WHEATS and WEEDS very good. Now from the history you wrote up there, from where did RUSSSEL came from? Who were the associates of RUSSELL and where did they come from?

A. Wheats B. Weeds

Who baptized RUSSELL and his associates? A. Weeds B. Wheats.


DappaD: Even so, through the ages, genuine Christians​ individually or in groups, ​no doubt did their best to adhere to Christ's teachings. But they no longer made up a clearly identifiable, visible body, or organization.

Achorladey: Can you please mention the GROUPS or individuals under consideration here?

DappaD: They were certainly not identical with the visible apostate religious system that throughout history brought nothing but disgrace and dishonor to the name of Jesus Christ

Achorladey: Can you tell me just one believe of RUSSELL that was Identifiable with APOSTATE religious system. I only need one. Please THINK carefully. Many things hang on that BELIEVE.

DappaD: But the situation was not to remain like that forever, because Jesus said at Matthew 13:30 that both the wheat and the weed would grow together until the “harvest season”. Jesus said the harvest season was the “conclusion of system of things” or the last days.

Achorladey: In reality there were TRUE CHRISTIANS and TRUE CHRISTIANITY before RUSSELL in the years +/-100C.E till the birth of RUSSELL. Very good.

First inform your brother Maximus69 about that.

Second tell us the TRUE Christian(WHEAT) that taught RUSSELL what he knows back then and made him reject teaching of FALSE CHRISTIANS(WEEDS).

DappaD: Shortly after the beginning of the last days, in 1919, the separation took place as the true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) were separated from the false Christians.

Achorladey: How was the separation done?

DappaD: The false Christians as long as all the rest of Babylon the Great will be completely destroyed or symbolically “burned with fire” at the Great Tribulation.

Achorladey: when you tell us who baptized the individuals or groups that were associates of RUSSELL and RUSSELL himself. We will know who get burnt in the FIRE.










At 18, Charles Taze Russell when he came of mature age questioned the doctrines because they weren't scriptural and then he formed a Bible study class.
So Russell was never at any point an advocate for false worship because when he came of a thinking and mature age, he had rejected the false doctrines already.
So Russell and his associates are identified among the “wheat” in Jesus' illustration. Since they were the ones who restored pure worship.

Shortly after the death of the apostles and prior to 1919, there was no visible and organized group of true Christians practising true Christianity.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:59am On Jul 08, 2020
Here's the summary.

There were no Christians before the 19th century, hence the Bible was written by pagans, Jehovah's wittiness uses the Bible, hence Jehovah's wittiness is a pagans religion.

Jehovah, a pagan God has limit, that explains why all he can do is watch when a 5 years old girl was raped.

The love within the pagan religion Jehovah's wittiness is useless as it haven't solved any Global problem for the past 140 years, worst if you claim the pagan religion is 2000 years old.

This are just some summary over some of the discussion we had.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:01am On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Here's your comment.

Compare the bolded with the first line of this screenshot.

Christianity is the only means of gaining God's Kingdom, that's why Jesus established it in the first century.
What i meant is there was nothing like Christianity after the death of the first century pioneers until it resurfaced again in 1919

So if you don't understand what i meant just ask instead of dribbling yourself, because each religionist will stick to what he believes it's you that's giving yourself headache over what people believe! smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:02am On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Here's the summary.

There were no Christians before the 19th century, hence the Bible was written by pagans, Jehovah's wittiness uses the Bible, hence Jehovah's wittiness is a pagans religion.

Jehovah, a pagan God has limit, that explains why all he can do is watch when a 5 years old girl was raped.

The love within the pagan religion Jehovah's wittiness is useless as it haven't solved any Global problem for the past 140 years, worst if you claim the pagan religion is 2000 years old.

This are just some summary over some of the discussion we had.

Your PERSONAL resolution Sir! smiley

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