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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 1:30pm On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

At 18, Charles Taze Russell when he came of mature age questioned the doctrines because they weren't scriptural and then he formed a Bible study class.
So Russell was never at any point an advocate for false worship because when he came of a thinking and mature age, he had rejected the false doctrines already.
So Russell and his associates are identified among the “wheat” in Jesus' illustration. Since they were the ones who restored pure worship.

Shortly after the death of the apostles and prior to 1919, there was no visible and organized group of true Christians practising true Christianity.

DappaD: Shortly after the death of the apostles and prior to 1919, there was no visible and organized group of true Christians practising true Christianity.

Achorladey: In reality and the essence of what you typed and highlighted above is all the WHEATS DIED(shortly after the deaths of the apostle) and the WEEDS kept growing and in 1919 Jesus Christ had to convert WEEDS to WHEATS to bring back TRUE CHRISTIANITY grin grin grin

DappaD: The people who listened to Jesus knew how difficult it was to tell genuine wheat from weeds. So Jesus was illustrating that for a while, it would be difficult to distinguish true Christians from the counterfeit variety. This does not mean that the Christian congregation ceased to exist, for Jesus promised to continue to guide his spiritual brothers “all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” (Matthew 28:20) Jesus said that the wheat would continue to grow. Even so, through the ages, genuine Christians​ individually or in groups, ​no doubt did their best to adhere to Christ's teachings


Achorladey: The same DappaD 3:14 am this morning said......This does not mean that the Christian congregation ceased to exist

. 9:52 am same DappaD now say.............Shortly after the death of the apostles and prior to 1919, [b]there was NO visible and organized group of true Christians practising true Christianity.

Mr DappaD do the coefficient of correlation and get back to me after reading grin grin grin

DappaD: At 18, Charles Taze Russell when he came of mature age questioned the doctrines because they weren't scriptural and then he formed a Bible study class.

Achorladey: In reality Russell's parent were WEEDS and RUSSELL was a born-in WEEDS and had to be converted to WHEATS by Jesus when he came back. After all you already said there was NO VISIBLE and ORGANIZED practising CHRISTIANITY. Jesus parable didn't say WEEDS are converted to WHEATS grin grin grin

DappaD: So Russell was never at any point an advocate for false worship because when he came of a thinking and mature age, he had rejected the false doctrines already.

Achorladey: Just tell one of the THINGS RUSSELL did that make him an advocate of FALSE WORSHIP. Just one. I know he joined FALSE Christians in so many things. Just one is enough grin grin grin

DappaD: So Russell and his associates are identified among the “wheat” in Jesus' illustration.

Achorladey: The above is just like me saying.... (Achorladey is Pastor RUSSELL). You will want Proof. Yes/No. Give us proof that shows there IDENTITY as WHEATS. I show why from your own very TEACHINGS RUSSELL na WEED.

DappaD: Since they were the ones who restored pure worship.

Achorladey: You mean RUSSELL restored James 1:27 grin grin grin grin. Look at the scripture below. Is this what RUSELL restore or his own brand of WORSHIP grin grin grin

Pure religion/WORSHIP and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 1:31pm On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Scripture back up, you mean your pagan doctrines, seem you don't know that Christianity is the combination of several pagan religion.
126, I never said I'll leave, damn it.

We don't want you to leave either so run along and keep learning! cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 1:31pm On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:


Don't mind him, he's a fugitive of no word, whoever takes his word serious has entered one chance!

As long as this thread is concerned he will still come back to agitate out of frustration! cheesy

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 1:33pm On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:


We don't want you to leave either so run along and keep learning! cheesy
When you have some thing sensible to say let me know, demon occupies space.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 1:36pm On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
This is the reason Rozz is scared of me, and how I dealt with you striking your comment like an ignorant îdoit,
Tell me one Global problem your pagan religion has solved.

I thought you're obsessed with taking up religious groups for saying something that irritates you!

Where are your cohorts that will join you in taking matters up against religionists?

The other time i disorganized your brain and the next morning you can't even reply to common greeting.

My friend, stop challenging JWs in discussions, we'll use words to finish you! Isaiah 54:17 smiley

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 1:38pm On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
When you have some thing sensible to say let me know, demon occupies space.
It's you that's been off and on the thread nah! cheesy

Nobody cares whether you're in or out! wink
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 1:39pm On Jul 08, 2020
achorladey:


DappaD: Shortly after the death of the apostles and prior to 1919, there was no visible and organized group of true Christians practising true Christianity.

Achorladey: In reality and the essence of what you typed and highlighted above is all the WHEATS DIED(shortly after the deaths of the apostle) and the WEEDS kept growing and in 1919 Jesus Christ had to convert WEEDS to WHEATS to bring back TRUE CHRISTIANITY grin grin grin

DappaD: The people who listened to Jesus knew how difficult it was to tell genuine wheat from weeds. So Jesus was illustrating that for a while, it would be difficult to distinguish true Christians from the counterfeit variety. This does not mean that the Christian congregation ceased to exist, for Jesus promised to continue to guide his spiritual brothers “all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” (Matthew 28:20) Jesus said that the wheat would continue to grow. Even so, through the ages, genuine Christians​ individually or in groups, ​no doubt did their best to adhere to Christ's teachings


Achorladey: The same DappaD 3:14 am this morning said......This does not mean that the Christian congregation ceased to exist

. 9:52 am same DappaD now say.............Shortly after the death of the apostles and prior to 1919, [b]there was NO visible and organized group of true Christians practising true Christianity.

Mr DappaD do the coefficient of correlation and get back to me after reading grin grin grin

DappaD: At 18, Charles Taze Russell when he came of mature age questioned the doctrines because they weren't scriptural and then he formed a Bible study class.

Achorladey: In reality Russell's parent were WEEDS and RUSSELL was a born-in WEEDS and had to be converted to WHEATS by Jesus when he came back. After all you already said there was NO VISIBLE and ORGANIZED practising CHRISTIANITY. Jesus parable didn't say WEEDS are converted to WHEATS grin grin grin

DappaD: So Russell was never at any point an advocate for false worship because when he came of a thinking and mature age, he had rejected the false doctrines already.

Achorladey: Just tell one of the THINGS RUSSELL did that make him an advocate of FALSE WORSHIP. Just one. I know he joined FALSE Christians in so many things. Just one is enough grin grin grin

DappaD: So Russell and his associates are identified among the “wheat” in Jesus' illustration.

Achorladey: The above is just like me saying.... (Achorladey is Pastor RUSSELL). You will want Proof. Yes/No. Give us proof that shows there IDENTITY as WHEATS. I show why from your own very TEACHINGS RUSSELL na WEED.

DappaD: Since they were the ones who restored pure worship.

Achorladey: You mean RUSSELL restored James 1:27 grin grin grin grin. Look at the scripture below. Is this what RUSELL restore or his own brand of WORSHIP grin grin grin

Pure religion/WORSHIP and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.


I've always knew she was double mouthed, I never knew it was this bad, thanks for pointing this out, now she has been put to shame.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 1:39pm On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

Why would it disturb me? This isn't even my first moniker on NL
I can easily go back and login my previous monikers and begin liking all my posts too undecided
I've already answered your questions but in a bid to look sharp before the ones supporting you, you'll keep asking those questions again.

DappaD: Why would it disturb me?

Achorladey: It didn't disturb you you call those who liked a post DEBASED IDIOTS. SMH for you.

DappaD: This isn't even my first moniker on NL

Achorladey: Mr DappaD, I don't care to know if its YOUR last MONIKER.

DappaD: I can easily go back and login my previous monikers and begin liking all my posts too.

Achorladey: As long it does not DISTURB you grin grin grin

DappaD: I've already answered your questions but in a bid to look sharp before the ones supporting you, you'll keep asking those questions again

Achorladey: If you had answer, I wouldn't ask questions AGAIN grin grin grin. The motive of the question is not to look sharp before you. I don't seek GLORY or PLASTIC trophies here. This is a forum, don't forget that.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 1:40pm On Jul 08, 2020
achorladey:


DappaD: Shortly after the death of the apostles and prior to 1919, there was no visible and organized group of true Christians practising true Christianity.

Achorladey: In reality and the essence of what you typed and highlighted above is all the WHEATS DIED(shortly after the deaths of the apostle) and the WEEDS kept growing and in 1919 Jesus Christ had to convert WEEDS to WHEATS to bring back TRUE CHRISTIANITY grin grin grin

DappaD: The people who listened to Jesus knew how difficult it was to tell genuine wheat from weeds. So Jesus was illustrating that for a while, it would be difficult to distinguish true Christians from the counterfeit variety. This does not mean that the Christian congregation ceased to exist, for Jesus promised to continue to guide his spiritual brothers “all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” (Matthew 28:20) Jesus said that the wheat would continue to grow. Even so, through the ages, genuine Christians​ individually or in groups, ​no doubt did their best to adhere to Christ's teachings


Achorladey: The same DappaD 3:14 am this morning said......This does not mean that the Christian congregation ceased to exist

. 9:52 am same DappaD now say.............Shortly after the death of the apostles and prior to 1919, [b]there was NO visible and organized group of true Christians practising true Christianity.

Mr DappaD do the coefficient of correlation and get back to me after reading grin grin grin

DappaD: At 18, Charles Taze Russell when he came of mature age questioned the doctrines because they weren't scriptural and then he formed a Bible study class.

Achorladey: In reality Russell's parent were WEEDS and RUSSELL was a born-in WEEDS and had to be converted to WHEATS by Jesus when he came back. After all you already said there was NO VISIBLE and ORGANIZED practising CHRISTIANITY. Jesus parable didn't say WEEDS are converted to WHEATS grin grin grin

DappaD: So Russell was never at any point an advocate for false worship because when he came of a thinking and mature age, he had rejected the false doctrines already.

Achorladey: Just tell one of the THINGS RUSSELL did that make him an advocate of FALSE WORSHIP. Just one. I know he joined FALSE Christians in so many things. Just one is enough grin grin grin

DappaD: So Russell and his associates are identified among the “wheat” in Jesus' illustration.

Achorladey: The above is just like me saying.... (Achorladey is Pastor RUSSELL). You will want Proof. Yes/No. Give us proof that shows there IDENTITY as WHEATS. I show why from your own very TEACHINGS RUSSELL na WEED.

DappaD: Since they were the ones who restored pure worship.

Achorladey: You mean RUSSELL restored James 1:27 grin grin grin grin. Look at the scripture below. Is this what RUSELL restore or his own brand of WORSHIP grin grin grin

Pure religion/WORSHIP and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.


This your method of replying someone is just laughable grin
Well anyone on this thread who wants the real answers to the questions asked can just scroll to the previous pages and read the answers to the questions. And you, achorladey whether you attack what I said, right left and centre, what has been stated has been stated and it's a fact. This will be my last reply to you on that subject matter.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 1:42pm On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
I've always knew she was double mouthed, I never knew it was this bad, thanks for pointing this out, now she has been put to shame.

Before thanking him, first try to infuse in his brain the idea that God doesn't exist! cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 1:42pm On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:

It's you that's been off and on the thread nah! cheesy

Nobody cares whether you're in or out! wink
Rozz cares, she begs and crave for my attention, after ignoring her for some days I decided to pity her, but I won't be here for long, I have a life unlike you.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 1:45pm On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

You're asking questions like a child.
Like I said I'm sure you weren't even a publisher
Maybe a Bible student who became uninterested

DappaD: You're asking questions like a child.

Achorladey: grin grin grin grin you make me laugh.

DappaD: Like I said I'm sure you weren't even a publisher.

Achorladey: What does being a PUBLISHER had to do with the WHEATS and WEEDS palaver.

DappaD: Maybe a Bible student who became uninterested

Achorladey: The uninterested Bible students is giving you a room to seriously look at the teaching of the organization you are a member of.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 1:45pm On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:


I thought you're obsessed with taking up religious groups for saying something that irritates you!

Where are your cohorts that will join you in taking matters up against religionists?

The other time i disorganized your brain and the next morning you can't even reply to common greeting.

My friend, stop challenging JWs in discussions, we'll use words to finish you! Isaiah 54:17 smiley
I couldn't make sense of anything you said, you must be speaking stupid.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 1:46pm On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

This your method of replying someone is just laughable grin
Well anyone on this thread who wants the real answers to the questions asked can just scroll to the previous pages and read the answers to the questions. And you, achorladey whether you attack what I said, right left and centre, what has been stated has been stated and it's a fact. This will be my last reply to you on that subject matter.


Now you can see why i always reply him saying

"i'm through with you"

He has no purpose than to join critics against JWs yet his head is filled with JW publications like Kumuyi! cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 1:47pm On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
I've always knew she was double mouthed, I never knew it was this bad, thanks for pointing this out, now she has been put to shame.
Do you know that achorladey believes in a God? grin - How come two of you are suddenly on the same side grin grin grin


This one is still calling me a woman,
It is well. undecided
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 1:48pm On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

This your method of replying someone is just laughable grin
Well anyone on this thread who wants the real answers to the questions asked can just scroll to the previous pages and read the answers to the questions. And you, achorladey whether you attack what I said, right left and centre, what has been stated has been stated and it's a fact. This will be my last reply to you on that subject matter.
If I were you I'll be ashamed after losing face, but you have no shame.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 1:48pm On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Rozz cares, she begs and crave for my attention, after ignoring her for some days I decided to pity her, but I won't be here for long, I have a life unlike you.

Did i hear you say you have a life? cheesy

You that thinks Dangote is the richest man on planet earth, yet the man is laying off his staff when his company failed to meet up with their upkeep.

I hear you boy, you surely have a life! cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 1:49pm On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

Since you can't even provide a structured rebuttal for what I've said, that would be the end of our discussion undecided

You want rebuttal on what has no basis in the SCRIPTURE from the started. Don't they look like CONCORTED stories. Stories like all WHEATS died and Jesus had to CONVERT weeds to wheat to restore pure WORSHIP. Later you will type here that your ORGANIZATION came out of BABYLON the GREAT grin grin grin grin.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 1:50pm On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

Do you know that achorladey believes in a God? grin - How come two of you are suddenly on the same side grin grin grin


This one is still calling me a woman,
It is well. undecided
Seconded

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 1:51pm On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

Do you know that achorladey believes in a God? grin - How come two of you are suddenly on the same side grin grin grin
This one is still calling me a woman,
It is well. undecided

When i told him that there are atheists disguising as believers, he was arguing blindly now i know he will recollect what i told him about misinformed atheists claiming believers! cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 1:52pm On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:



Now you can see why i always reply him saying

"i'm through with you"

He has no purpose than to join critics against JWs yet his head is filled with JW publications like Kumuyi! cheesy
You're avoiding him because he has put you in your place, you can tell from the likes he gets., he's superior to you.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 1:53pm On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:


Did i hear you say you have a life? cheesy

You that thinks Dangote is the richest man on planet earth, yet the man is laying off his staff when his company failed to meet up with their upkeep.

I hear you boy, you surely have a life! cheesy
better than a pagan limited god.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 1:53pm On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
If I were you I'll be ashamed after losing face, but you have no shame.

Shame comes when there is nobody to lean on, i think you're now trying to lean on achorladey who has not debunk the existence of God.
How does that sound to you boy? cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 1:55pm On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

This your method of replying someone is just laughable grin
Well anyone on this thread who wants the real answers to the questions asked can just scroll to the previous pages and read the answers to the questions. And you, achorladey whether you attack what I said, right left and centre, what has been stated has been stated and it's a fact. This will be my last reply to you on that subject matter.

DappaD: This your method of replying someone is just laughable

Achorladey: grin grin grin grin so I Don't lose the sense of the conversation.

DappaD: This will be my last reply to you on that subject matter.

Achorladey: grin grin grin grin grin in reality Jesus convert WEEDS to WHEATS when he came back in 1914-1919 grin grin grin the parable says otherwise.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 1:55pm On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:


When i told him that there are atheists disguising as believers, he was arguing blindly now i know he will recollect what i told him about misinformed atheists claiming believers! cheesy
You don't know what you believe in, your the Atheist, that doesn't believe in God.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 1:56pm On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:


Shame comes when there is nobody to lean on, i think you're now trying to lean on achorladey who has not debunk the existence of God.
How does that sound to you boy? cheesy
Sorry I don't speak stupidity.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 1:57pm On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
You're avoiding him because he has put you in your place, you can tell from the likes he gets., he's superior to you.

If likes and shares makes sense to you then you're truly deluded my guy!

How many likes and shares do you think you'll get when trying to debunk the existence of God?

Then compare it to how many likes and shares a religious title chief will get for just waving his hands! cheesy

My guy, stop deceiving yourself! cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 2:00pm On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Sorry I don't speak stupidity.

Achorladey is the one you need to tell that, at least he's your friend now so convince him that there is no God.
If you can't convince your friend, how do you expect to convince someone opposed to your ideas? cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 2:00pm On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:



Now you can see why i always reply him saying

"i'm through with you"

He has no purpose than to join critics against JWs yet his head is filled with JW publications like Kumuyi! cheesy
Remember Jesus' illustration of the seeds(word of God) that fell on the roadside and rocky soil. Luke 8:4-15
His type are the ones that allowed Satan to deceive them even after hearing and receiving the truth!
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 2:02pm On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
What you just wrote disagrees with maximus69.

DappaD
There was Christianity before 19th century.

Maximus69
There was no Christianity before the 19th century.

You guys can't even agree with each other, same religion domination for that matter, smh.

You too see am grin grin grin grin in other to save face DappaD had to return to what Maximus69 said.

They will be the one to say their is CONFUSION amongst false Christians while they keep chopping and changing their own beliefs. For example they teach RUSSELL focus of WORSHIP was not JEHOVAH before 1919. So in essence RUSELL must be a WEED since the focus of WORSHIP during RUTHERFORD was JEHOVAH. In reality Jesus convert WEEDS to WHEATS. grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 2:03pm On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

Remember Jesus' illustration of the seeds(word of God) that fell on the roadside and rocky soil. Luke 8:4-15
His type are the ones that allowed Satan to deceive them even after hearing and receiving the truth!

Achorladey and rottennaija were born, bread and brought up by JW parents but they chose to turn their backs on the truth, now ask them which group are they worshiping with?
Gbege go shele! cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 2:04pm On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:


Achorladey is the one you need to tell that, at least he's your friend now so convince him that there is no God.
If you can't convince your friend, how do you expect to convince someone opposed to your ideas? cheesy
They claim to have the same line of thought but one believes in God and the other doesn't? These clowns grin grin grin grin

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