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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 5:27pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE: Bros, what's the passion of Christ movie about? Jesus Christ died for what he believed in. Che Guevara died for what he believed in. Deal with it. Can GRIMMJOE die for Atheists/atheism? |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 5:28pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
Janosky: And then he added in Hebrews 13:25 Have complete trust in the governing body. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 5:28pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
DappaD:lol, but are you my SD wife truly,just wondering why he would made that up if he's lying |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 5:32pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
Rozz:Rozz kuku kill me ![]() ![]() ![]() Please I am an adult male and I don't know Maximus69 face to face. But since we are all brothers in Christ, we have the same line of thought and beliefs. 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 5:33pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
Rozz: It's only amongst JWs that we are our brothers keeper! You must attend meetings regularly {Hebrews 10:24-25} JWs where you live must commend you for not allowing your place to be empty in God's house {Isaiah 2:3} people in your neighbourhood must know you as one of JWs {1Timothy 4:15} and those in God's organization must recognise you as one of us! Romans 16:5 This is difficult for those who are not JWs to do because they can't figure out the accurate number of all their members globally, so all what a Churchgoer needs is to carry a Bible on Sunday, get to the Church, find a sit and walk away after all their dancing. That's why JWs have the names and mobile number of each member globally, so if you leave Nigeria to and country on earth today, just the name of the congregation where your name and number is registered, and you'll be welcomed as one of us anywhere you go! ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 5:37pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
rottennaija: Hebrews 13:25 meant for the leaders of Jehovah's servants and everyone who OBEYS, SUBMIT and IMITATE the leaders- the Governing Body. Acts15:6-31. Hebrews 13:25 doesn't apply to rebels. 2 Thess1:7-9,Matt 27:3-5. Numbers 16:1-3,31-35 Rebels will face the music. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 5:40pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
rottennaija: You don't even know what to quote yet you want to argue with JWs! ![]() Hebrew 13:25 ~ grace of God be you all. So Paul was talking about rebellious individuals like you shey? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 5:40pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
DappaD:Then where is that atheist evangelist cooking up all this from.smh |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 5:43pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
Janosky: No nah, that's the rule Jesus gave his followers {John 13:34-35} but when troubles comes the atheists will now expect you to come to their aid when our brothers also need our attention! Galatians 6:10 ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 5:43pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
Rozz:When you see GRIMMJOE next time, ask him Now you've seen that all is not well with his intellect right? He and his supposed atheist brothers are equally confused. Including rottennaija, he's now quoting scriptures out of context trying to dispute what the Bible says concerning submission and obedience to those taking the lead in the Christian congregation (1Thessalonians 5:12, Hebrews 13:7,17, 1Peter 5:5) 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 5:45pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
Janosky: Achorladey: Hebrews 13:7 Remember your leaders who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life [/b]and imitate their faith. Did it say put COMPLETE TRUST in the FAITHFUL and DISCREET SLAVE. Did you see where it is said in that verse that JEHOVAH and JESUS COMPLETELY TRUST men(Faithful and discreet) not inspired and infallible and make MISTAKES. The reason you see in Hebrews 13:7 states CONSIDER the OUTCOME of their WAY OF LIFE. So When someone say I can't trust COMPLETELY what some group of MEN say. He has a right to do so because he has SEEN and consider the OUTCOME of their ways. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() [b]Janosky: Hebrews 13: 17 ......Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they watch over your souls as those who must give an account. To this end, allow them to lead with joy and not with grief, for that would be of no advantage to you. Achorladey: Are we talking about COMPLETE TRUST and OBEDIENCE here? Do you COMPLETELY trust and GIVE obedience to the president of Nigeria ![]() ![]() ![]() You should know.... overriding meaning of the obey your leaders or submit is that of persuasion based on reasoning and confidence or trust in the source. It is not used to convey the idea of blind and unquestioning obedience. Janosky: Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made RULER over his household[/b], [/b]to give them meat in due season? Achorladey: In other to make the Governing Body your RULER you cited the Matthew above. But here is below what one of the GOVERNING BODY member and other members said about RULERS ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Acts 5:29 In answer Peter and the other apostles said: “We must obey God as RULER rather than men. Janosky is Governing Body your RULER who you should give COMPLETE TRUST? ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 5:48pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 5:50pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
DappaD: They're desperately fighting hard to keep Rozz on the broad road! Matthew 7:13-14 But they're confused as they can't point to any group practicing pure worship. That's why i said ask each of them to tell you the name of their Church at least to know where the idea is coming from, but since they're all atheists claiming believers! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 5:54pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
[quote author=rottennaija post=91515040][/quote] The upper part of the coloured image is clear enough ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() In order to avoid CHILDISH FOOLISHNESS and treading on DANGEROUS waters ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 5:58pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
Maximus69:Well what I can decipher from rottennaija is that he thinks he can enter God's Kingdom without him belonging to one particular group of true Christians so that's why he has rejected God's constituted authority. As for the other one, till today I cannot tell where that one stands because he has just been confusing and contradicting himself ever since ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 6:03pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
DappaD: They all believe the same thing! What most people claiming atheist believe is doing good things so that even if there is a God, he will show them mercy for the good they've done. Sadly that's what Rozz also believe, that's why i keep emphasizing on the reason why they must join God's people and support the ongoing disciple making work! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 6:07pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 6:08pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
rottennaija: Hebrews 13:18 Keep praying for us, for we trust we have an honest conscience, as we wish to conduct ourselves honestly in all things . Even the LEADERS are not free or have immunity from MISCONDUCT and DISHONESTY as captured in the scripture that follows Hebrews 13:17. The reason for the prayer request. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 6:09pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
achorladey: That JWs choose to have COMPLETE TRUST in our leadership, is not the prerogative of Achorladey and rottennaija to pass Judgement. The matter dey between JWs and Jehovah their God. OBEY ,IMITATE, SUBMIT to your leaders... Their MUST be trust in order to OBEY, IMITATE and SUBMIT. I have complete trust in Jehovah God using imperfect faithful leaders to guide his imperfect , obedient people. But wait first, who are the leaders of Achorladey and rottennaija? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 6:10pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
DappaD: Lol Achorladey come ooo, you are confusing them. You have put fire into their camp. They keep guessing, wondering what you are up to. I think it keeps them up at night |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 6:10pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
[quote author=rottennaija post=91515632][/quote] See wahala o! ![]() Quote the Bible to prove God accepts more than one form of worship, you're quoting books is that what you want to use in preaching and teaching for Jesus? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 6:12pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
Janosky: Guardian of the Doctrine aka GOD 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 6:17pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
Maximus69:
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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 6:18pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
rottennaija:What if I am referring to another person in my comment? Must it be the person you mentioned? 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 6:18pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
Janosky: They want to see Jehovah or Jesus before believing! They failed woefully to grasp the import of that word believe. Jesus said many will not see him but they will believe in him through the teachings of his brothers. John 20:29 Believe connotes trust, so there is no way anyone can claim to believe in Jesus without doing any work for Jesus, and before you can work for Jesus you must be part of his organized group. John 15:1-10 ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 6:20pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
Janosky: Janosky: That JWs choose to have COMPLETE TRUST in our leadership, is not the prerogative of Achorladey and rottennaija to pass Judgement. Achorladey: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Janosky: The matter dey between JWs and Jehovah their God Achorladey: another ![]() ![]() ![]() Janosky: But wait first, who are the leaders of Achorladey and rottennaija. Only one is your LEADER......... JESUS Christ the HEADS of the congregation. Na Bible talk am. Na LIE? Or you have a better leader than Jesus Christ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 6:21pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
Maximus69:rottennaija doesn't know where else to turn to. ![]() So he has gone to dig out useless books written by apostates and then he came here posting screenshots wanting to prove a point ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 6:22pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
rottennaija: SAVAGERY ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 6:24pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
DappaD: How do you know it's APOSTATE books. Have you read it. Who wrote it? Make I see if indeed you too have not peer into APOSTATES book ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 6:26pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
DappaD: Jesus said their last condition will become worse than when they're with Jehovah's people. If any of them meet a teenager amongst JWs instead of quoting the scriptures to help such a teenager reason with them, it's what Apostate and Critics are saying that they'll be quoting! ![]() Ask them where they want the interested person go for pure worship, then see them beating about the bush! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 6:27pm On Jul 08, 2020 |
rottennaija: No mind DappaD jare. He and Maximus69 have shown that Jesus converted WEEDS to WHEAT to restructure and reorganize TRUE CHRISTIANITY after it disappears, dies, cease to exist after the death of Apostles ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
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