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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 5:27pm On Jul 08, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
@ Maximus69

Bros, what's the passion of Christ movie about?

Jesus Christ died for what he believed in.
Che Guevara died for what he believed in.
Deal with it.
Can GRIMMJOE die for Atheists/atheism?
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 5:28pm On Jul 08, 2020
Janosky:


The Apostle who had a personal encounter with Jesus Christ ,Paul PROVE say you rottennaija MUMU


Hebrews 13:7
"7Remember your leaders who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith..…


Hebrews 6:12
Then you will not be sluggish, but will imitate those who through faith and patience inherit what has been promised.


Hebrews 13:17
Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they watch over your souls as those who must give an account. To this end, allow them to lead with joy


Please quantirinu to DECEIVE YOURSELF
grin

And then he added in Hebrews 13:25
Have complete trust in the governing body.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 5:28pm On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

He's just puzzled that people who haven't met in real life before can actually have the same line of thought grin
lol, but are you my SD wife truly,just wondering why he would made that up if he's lying
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 5:32pm On Jul 08, 2020
Rozz:
lol, but are you my SD wife truly,just wondering why he would made that up if he's lying
Rozz kuku kill me grin grin grin
Please I am an adult male and I don't know Maximus69 face to face. But since we are all brothers in Christ, we have the same line of thought and beliefs.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 5:33pm On Jul 08, 2020
Rozz:
Thats why I always call him the Atheist evangelist lol, one thing about this atheists is that they always hide in reality as people see and view them as mentally unstable, so some of them still go to church to avoid this but they are always warriors online.I bet you non of his relatives know he's an atheist

It's only amongst JWs that we are our brothers keeper!
You must attend meetings regularly {Hebrews 10:24-25} JWs where you live must commend you for not allowing your place to be empty in God's house {Isaiah 2:3} people in your neighbourhood must know you as one of JWs {1Timothy 4:15} and those in God's organization must recognise you as one of us! Romans 16:5

This is difficult for those who are not JWs to do because they can't figure out the accurate number of all their members globally, so all what a Churchgoer needs is to carry a Bible on Sunday, get to the Church, find a sit and walk away after all their dancing.

That's why JWs have the names and mobile number of each member globally, so if you leave Nigeria to and country on earth today, just the name of the congregation where your name and number is registered, and you'll be welcomed as one of us anywhere you go! smiley

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 5:37pm On Jul 08, 2020
rottennaija:


And then he added in Hebrews 13:25
Have complete trust in the governing body.

Hebrews 13:25 meant for the leaders of Jehovah's servants and everyone who OBEYS, SUBMIT and IMITATE the leaders- the Governing Body. Acts15:6-31.


Hebrews 13:25 doesn't apply to rebels.
2 Thess1:7-9,Matt 27:3-5. Numbers 16:1-3,31-35 Rebels will face the music.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 5:40pm On Jul 08, 2020
rottennaija:


And then he added in Hebrews 13:25
Have complete trust in the governing body.

You don't even know what to quote yet you want to argue with JWs!

Hebrew 13:25 ~ grace of God be you all.

So Paul was talking about rebellious individuals like you shey? cheesy

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 5:40pm On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

Rozz kuku kill me grin grin grin
Please I am an adult male and I don't know Maximus69 face to face. But since we are all brothers in Christ, we have the same line of thought and beliefs.
Then where is that atheist evangelist cooking up all this from.smh
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 5:43pm On Jul 08, 2020
Janosky:


Bros, what's the passion of Christ movie about?

Jesus Christ died for what he believed in.
Che Guevara died for what he believed in.
Deal with it.
Can GRIMMJOE die for Atheists/atheism?

No nah, that's the rule Jesus gave his followers {John 13:34-35} but when troubles comes the atheists will now expect you to come to their aid when our brothers also need our attention! Galatians 6:10 smiley

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 5:43pm On Jul 08, 2020
Rozz:
Then where is that atheist evangelist cooking up all this from.smh
When you see GRIMMJOE next time, ask him
Now you've seen that all is not well with his intellect right? He and his supposed atheist brothers are equally confused. Including rottennaija, he's now quoting scriptures out of context trying to dispute what the Bible says concerning submission and obedience to those taking the lead in the Christian congregation (1Thessalonians 5:12, Hebrews 13:7,17, 1Peter 5:5)

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 5:45pm On Jul 08, 2020
Janosky:



Again, Achorladey,SHAME ON YOU !
Hebrews 13:7
"7Remember your leaders who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith..…


Hebrews 6:12
Then you will not be sluggish, but will imitate those who through faith and patience inherit what has been promised.

Hebrews 13:17
Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they watch over your souls as those who must give an account. To this end, allow them to lead with joy
and not with grief, for that would be of no advantage to you.

Hebrews 13:24
Greet all your leaders [/b]and all the saints. Those from Italy send you greetings.

[b]1 Peter 4:11
If anyone speaks, he should speak as one conveying the words of God. If anyone serves, he should serve with the strength God provides
, so that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be the glory and the power Forever


Matthew 24:45
Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, [/b]to give them meat in due season?

Key Words:
OBEY ,IMITATE, SUBMIT to your leaders..

Achorladey: Hebrews 13:7 Remember your leaders who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life [/b]and imitate their faith.

Did it say put COMPLETE TRUST in the FAITHFUL and DISCREET SLAVE.

Did you see where it is said in that verse that JEHOVAH and JESUS COMPLETELY TRUST men(Faithful and discreet) not inspired and infallible and make MISTAKES.

The reason you see in Hebrews 13:7 states CONSIDER the OUTCOME of their WAY OF LIFE.

So When someone say I can't trust COMPLETELY what some group of MEN say. He has a right to do so because he has SEEN and consider the OUTCOME of their ways. grin grin grin grin grin. The SCRIPTURE ask us to do so.


[b]Janosky
: Hebrews 13: 17 ......Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they watch over your souls as those who must give an account. To this end, allow them to lead with joy and not with grief, for that would be of no advantage to you.

Achorladey: Are we talking about COMPLETE TRUST and OBEDIENCE here? Do you COMPLETELY trust and GIVE obedience to the president of Nigeria grin grin grin.

You should know.... overriding meaning of the obey your leaders or submit is that of persuasion based on reasoning and confidence or trust in the source. It is not used to convey the idea of blind and unquestioning obedience.

Janosky: Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made RULER over his household[/b], [/b]to give them meat in due season?

Achorladey: In other to make the Governing Body your RULER you cited the Matthew above. But here is below what one of the GOVERNING BODY member and other members said about RULERS grin grin grin grin in the words of PETER himself..........


Acts 5:29 In answer Peter and the other apostles said: “We must obey God as RULER rather than men.

Janosky is Governing Body your RULER who you should give COMPLETE TRUST? grin grin grin

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 5:48pm On Jul 08, 2020

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 5:50pm On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

When you see GRIMMJOE next time, ask him
Now you've seen that all is not well with his intellect right? He and his supposed atheist brothers are equally confused.

They're desperately fighting hard to keep Rozz on the broad road! Matthew 7:13-14
But they're confused as they can't point to any group practicing pure worship.

That's why i said ask each of them to tell you the name of their Church at least to know where the idea is coming from, but since they're all atheists claiming believers! smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 5:54pm On Jul 08, 2020
[quote author=rottennaija post=91515040][/quote]

The upper part of the coloured image is clear enough grin grin grin grin

In order to avoid CHILDISH FOOLISHNESS and treading on DANGEROUS waters grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 5:58pm On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:


They're desperately fighting hard to keep Rozz on the broad road! Matthew 7:13-14
But they're confused as they can't point to any group practicing pure worship.

That's why i said ask each of them to tell you the name of their Church at least to know where the idea is coming from, but since they're all atheists claiming believers! smiley
Well what I can decipher from rottennaija is that he thinks he can enter God's Kingdom without him belonging to one particular group of true Christians so that's why he has rejected God's constituted authority. As for the other one, till today I cannot tell where that one stands because he has just been confusing and contradicting himself ever since grin grin grin

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 6:03pm On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

Well what I can decipher from rottennaija is that he thinks he can enter God's Kingdom without him belonging to one particular group of true Christians so that's why he has rejected God's constituted authority. As for the other one, till today I cannot tell where that one stands because he has just been confusing and contradicting himself ever since grin grin grin

They all believe the same thing!

What most people claiming atheist believe is doing good things so that even if there is a God, he will show them mercy for the good they've done. Sadly that's what Rozz also believe, that's why i keep emphasizing on the reason why they must join God's people and support the ongoing disciple making work! wink
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 6:07pm On Jul 08, 2020
Janosky:


Hebrews 13:25 meant for the leaders of Jehovah's servants and everyone who OBEYS, SUBMIT and IMITATE the leaders- the Governing Body. Acts15:6-31.


Hebrews 13:25 doesn't apply to rebels.
2 Thess1:7-9,Matt 27:3-5. Numbers 16:1-3,31-35 Rebels will face the music.

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 6:07pm On Jul 08, 2020
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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 6:08pm On Jul 08, 2020
rottennaija:


And then he added in Hebrews 13:25
Have complete trust in the governing body.

Hebrews 13:18 Keep praying for us, for we trust we have an honest conscience, as we wish to conduct ourselves honestly in all things
.

Even the LEADERS are not free or have immunity from MISCONDUCT and DISHONESTY as captured in the scripture that follows Hebrews 13:17. The reason for the prayer request.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 6:09pm On Jul 08, 2020
achorladey:


Achorladey: Hebrews 13:7 Remember your leaders who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life [/b]and imitate their faith.

Did it say put COMPLETE TRUST in the FAITHFUL and DISCREET SLAVE.

Did you see where it is said in that verse that JEHOVAH and JESUS COMPLETELY TRUST men(Faithful and discreet) not inspired and infallible and make MISTAKES.

The reason you see in Hebrews 13:7 states CONSIDER the OUTCOME of their WAY OF LIFE.

So When someone say I can't trust COMPLETELY what some group of MEN say. He has a right to do so because he has SEEN and consider the OUTCOME of their ways. grin grin grin grin grin. The SCRIPTURE ask us to do so.


[b]Janosky
: Hebrews 13: 17 ......Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they watch over your souls as those who must give an account. To this end, allow them to lead with joy and not with grief, for that would be of no advantage to you.

Achorladey: Are we talking about COMPLETE TRUST and OBEDIENCE here? Do you COMPLETELY trust and GIVE obedience to the president of Nigeria grin grin grin.

You should know.... overriding meaning of the obey your leaders or submit is that of persuasion based on reasoning and confidence or trust in the source. It is not used to convey the idea of blind and unquestioning obedience.

Janosky: Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made RULER over his household[/b], [/b]to give them meat in due season?

Achorladey: In other to make the Governing Body your RULER you cited the Matthew above. But here is below what one of the GOVERNING BODY member and other members said about RULERS grin grin grin grin in the words of PETER himself..........


Acts 5:29 In answer Peter and the other apostles said: “We must obey God as RULER rather than men.

Janosky is Governing Body your RULER who you should give COMPLETE TRUST? grin grin grin
rottennaija post=91515040:

That JWs choose to have COMPLETE TRUST in our leadership, is not the prerogative of Achorladey and rottennaija to pass Judgement.

The matter dey between JWs and Jehovah their God.
OBEY ,IMITATE, SUBMIT to your leaders... Their MUST be trust in order to OBEY, IMITATE and SUBMIT.
I have complete trust in Jehovah God using imperfect faithful leaders to guide his imperfect , obedient people.

But wait first, who are the leaders of Achorladey and rottennaija?

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 6:10pm On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

Well what I can decipher from rottennaija is that he thinks he can enter God's Kingdom without him belonging to one particular group of true Christians so that's why he has rejected God's constituted authority. As for the other one, till today I cannot tell where that one stands because he has just been confusing and contradicting himself ever since grin grin grin

Lol
Achorladey come ooo, you are confusing them. You have put fire into their camp. They keep guessing, wondering what you are up to. I think it keeps them up at night
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 6:10pm On Jul 08, 2020
[quote author=rottennaija post=91515632][/quote]

See wahala o! cheesy

Quote the Bible to prove God accepts more than one form of worship, you're quoting books is that what you want to use in preaching and teaching for Jesus? cheesy

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 6:12pm On Jul 08, 2020
Janosky:


But wait first, who are the leaders of Achorladey and rottennaija?

Guardian of the Doctrine aka GOD

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 6:17pm On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:


See wahala o! cheesy

Quote the Bible to prove God accepts more than one form of worship, you're quoting books is that what you want to use in preaching and teaching for Jesus? cheesy

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 6:18pm On Jul 08, 2020
rottennaija:


Lol
Achorladey come ooo, you are confusing them. You have put fire into their camp. They keep guessing, wondering what you are up to. I think it keeps them up at night
What if I am referring to another person in my comment? Must it be the person you mentioned?

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 6:18pm On Jul 08, 2020
Janosky:


That JWs choose to have COMPLETE TRUST in our leadership, is not the prerogative of Achorladey and rottennaija to pass Judgement.

The matter dey between JWs and Jehovah their God.
OBEY ,IMITATE, SUBMIT to your leaders... Their MUST be trust in order to OBEY, IMITATE and SUBMIT.
I have complete trust in Jehovah God using imperfect faithful leaders to guide his imperfect , obedient people.

But wait first, who are the leaders of Achorladey and rottennaija?

They want to see Jehovah or Jesus before believing!

They failed woefully to grasp the import of that word believe. Jesus said many will not see him but they will believe in him through the teachings of his brothers. John 20:29

Believe connotes trust, so there is no way anyone can claim to believe in Jesus without doing any work for Jesus, and before you can work for Jesus you must be part of his organized group. John 15:1-10 smiley

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 6:20pm On Jul 08, 2020
Janosky:


That JWs choose to have COMPLETE TRUST in our leadership, is not the prerogative of Achorladey and rottennaija to pass Judgement.

The matter dey between JWs and Jehovah their God.
OBEY ,IMITATE, SUBMIT to your leaders...
I have complete trust in Jehovah God using imperfect faithful leaders to guide his imperfect , obedient people.

But wait first, who are the leaders of Achorladey and rottennaija?

Janosky: That JWs choose to have COMPLETE TRUST in our leadership, is not the prerogative of Achorladey and rottennaija to pass Judgement.

Achorladey: grin grin grin grin you will abuse Daddy and Mummy G.O very soon and I know it's YOUR OWN PREROGATIVE grin grin grin grin

Janosky: The matter dey between JWs and Jehovah their God

Achorladey: another grin grin grin I hope you will have that mindset when other stick to their leaders as well

Janosky: But wait first, who are the leaders of Achorladey and rottennaija.

Only one is your LEADER......... JESUS Christ the HEADS of the congregation. Na Bible talk am. Na LIE? Or you have a better leader than Jesus Christ grin grin grin grin

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 6:21pm On Jul 08, 2020
Maximus69:


See wahala o! cheesy

Quote the Bible to prove God accepts more than one form of worship, you're quoting books is that what you want to use in preaching and teaching for Jesus? cheesy
rottennaija doesn't know where else to turn to. cheesy
So he has gone to dig out useless books written by apostates and then he came here posting screenshots wanting to prove a point angry
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 6:22pm On Jul 08, 2020
rottennaija:


Guardian of the Doctrine aka GOD

SAVAGERY grin grin grin grin grin in reality that's what it form when one turns it to ACRONYM.....G.O.D grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 6:24pm On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

rottennaija doesn't know where else to turn to. cheesy
So he has gone to dig out useless books written by apostates and then he came here posting screenshots wanting to prove a point angry

How do you know it's APOSTATE books. Have you read it. Who wrote it? Make I see if indeed you too have not peer into APOSTATES book grin grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 6:26pm On Jul 08, 2020
DappaD:

rottennaija doesn't know where else to turn to. cheesy
So he has gone to dig out useless books written by apostates and then he came here posting screenshots wanting to prove a point angry

Jesus said their last condition will become worse than when they're with Jehovah's people.

If any of them meet a teenager amongst JWs instead of quoting the scriptures to help such a teenager reason with them, it's what Apostate and Critics are saying that they'll be quoting! cheesy

Ask them where they want the interested person go for pure worship, then see them beating about the bush! cheesy

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 6:27pm On Jul 08, 2020
rottennaija:


Lol
Achorladey come ooo, you are confusing them. You have put fire into their camp. They keep guessing, wondering what you are up to. I think it keeps them up at night

No mind DappaD jare. He and Maximus69 have shown that Jesus converted WEEDS to WHEAT to restructure and reorganize TRUE CHRISTIANITY after it disappears, dies, cease to exist after the death of Apostles grin grin grin

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