GRIMMJOE:

Good you admitted wasting your youth, hope you tell you family members you have a sugar girl.

So what have you to tell those who also lived their youth like i did?

I spent my youth working for money and pleasures, i never thought i'll one day become a preacher teaching people about God!

It would have been better if you as a freethinker have something better to offer than what i spent my time on back then!

GRIMMJOE:
time to go face life challenges, while you remain here drowning in you illusion, demons occupies space.
Death is the master of JW, it killed all the founder.

Get to work my young man, and don't forget to leave religionists and their so called illusion!

Rozz:

See so much hatred on me for saying I reason with jw on trinity, I imagine the kind of hatred the jw members experience on daily basis,my love and prayers are with you all.I also admire your strength and courage to defend yourselves anywhere.If you study the recent world,you will know that truly God's people are hated and humiliated everyday.Some people even hate me here on Nairaland because of my interest in religion and I'm even struggling sef, if not for God's guidance and wisdom I don't know how I would have come this far with the pressure and distractions I experience from all angles of my life.May God continue to be my guide.Meanwhile where is fake wealthy pastor Johnw419 and snake man achorladey.The fake wealthy man seems to be on duty last night lol

That's why we always identify ourselves as JWs everywhere we go so people may know what to expect from us.
Most times they expect us to keep their man-made doctrines like women shouldn't wear makeups, jewelries, trousers, hairdos and stuff like that, when we tell them those rules are not biblical they (even though it's a burden to them) will begin to hates us for not keeping their pastor's rules!

TATIME:


That's why we always identify ourselves as JWs everywhere we go so people may know what to expect from us.
Most times they expect us to keep their man-made doctrines like women shouldn't wear makeups, jewelries, trousers, hairdos and stuff like that, when we tell them those rules are not biblical they (even though it's a burden to them) will begin to hates us for not keeping their pastor's rules!

But what baffles me is how members of different Churches like Deeper, Redeem, MFM, Chosen, Apostolic agree that they're worshiping the same God with Christ Embassy, CCC, C&S and co.
The first set have some strict rules dictating how women should adorn themselves while the second set believe it doesn't matter.
But they all agree on TRINITY yet they never see anything wrong in their various doctrines!

Maximus69:


So what have you to tell those who also lived their youth like i did?

I spent my youth working for money and pleasures, i never thought i'll one day become a preacher teaching people about God!

It would have been better if you as a freethinker have something better to offer than what i spent my time on back then!

If you believe money is everything in life why are you not preaching money.

Maximus69:

Get to work my young man, and don't forget to leave religionists and their so called illusion!

Naira land is a public forum, we are all free to air our opinion.

GRIMMJOE:
If you believe money is everything in life why are you not preaching money.

Its ok

Maximus69:


But what baffles me is how members of different Churches like Deeper, Redeem, MFM, Chosen, Apostolic agree that they're worshiping the same God with Christ Embassy, CCC, C&S and co.
The first set have some strict rules dictating how women should adorn themselves while the second set believe it doesn't matter.
But they all agree on TRINITY yet they never see anything wrong in their various doctrines!

Jehovah's witness doesn't believe in Trinity just like atheist, didn't I tell you Jehovah's witness is a watered down Atheism.

I can list more similarities.

Rozz:
Its ok

He's a Naira land rat with no life, he should be thanking me he might actually test freedom for once in his pathetic life, guess what it's free of charge.

brocab:
You haven't read these verses?
{Matthew 5:43-48}
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love those who love you, what reward do you have? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what more are you doing than others? Do not even the Gentiles do the same? ...
{1 John 4:8} Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.
But I believe this one is for you personally..
{Proverbs 6:16-19}
There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers...
brocab:
Sadly-for you-the world knows-how deadly the Watchtower produces it's fruit..I am sure you would prefer these girl's to be younger boy's for your own picking.

Brocab closet PERVERT knows Yahweh's hatred for LYING tongue , yet brocab makes defamatory and libelous claims on this thread...

Closet PERVERT...
TUEH !!

GRIMMJOE:
Iron Man also died for what he believed in.

Can you tell me why you haven't die for what you believe in.

GRIMMJOE iron man disciple , you shift from atheism dey console yourself with iron man

GRIMMJOE:
If you believe money is everything in life why are you not preaching money.

That was what i believed back then, many of my colleagues died in the struggle but i escaped death, finally i got in contact with JWs who made me understand that there is something of higher value than money, that's what i'm preaching now!

GRIMMJOE:
Naira land is a public forum, we are all free to air our opinion.

Happiness is also free!

GRIMMJOE:
Jehovah's witness doesn't believe in Trinity just like atheist, didn't I tell you Jehovah's witness is a watered down Atheism.
I can list more similarities.

Wahala Yaso!

That post was meant for Trinitarians my guy not for a freethinker like you nah, please don't give yourself headache over matters that's not of any gain to you!

GRIMMJOE:

He's a Nairaland rat with no life, he should be thanking me he might actually test freedom for once in his pathetic life, guess what it's free of charge.

You just keep amusing me with you immaturity.
If you know the type of life we lived in the military intelligence, you will never say that!

Rozz:

Its ok

The boy is becoming restless by the second because of those professing FAITH, yet he claims he's a freethinker!

Well i think freethinkers don't carry other people's problems in their head o!

Janosky:


GRIMMJOE iron man disciple , you shift from atheism dey console yourself with iron man

They are all stories.

Maximus69:


That was what i believed back then, many of my colleagues died in the struggle but i escaped death, finally i got in contact with JWs who made me understand that there is something of higher value than money, that's what i'm preaching now!

Are you telling me you joined military for money, and many of you colleagues didn't make it?

Say what you have to say I don't bite.

Maximus69:
Don't bite me o!
Go and meet Buhari!

Maximus69:

Happiness is also free!

So is your freedom.

Maximus69:


Wahala Yaso!

That post was meant for Trinitarians my guy not for a freethinker like you nah, please don't give yourself headache over matters that's not of any gain to you!

I remember this is a public forum, if you don't like it create a website for Jehovah's witness only.

Maximus69:


You just keep amusing me with you immaturity.
If you know the type of life we lived in the military intelligence, you will never say that!

Where you free in the life you lived, or was it filled with "Yes Sir"

Maximus69:

The boy is becoming restless by the second because of those professing FAITH, yet he claims he's a freethinker!

Well i think freethinkers don't carry other people's problems in their head o!

You're not a free thinker, hence anything you say about them is nothing but assumption.

You're right, life is short, shouldn't that be the more reason you should listen to what I have to say, like you said I have nothing to gain.

You can't reach your destination if you stop and throw stone at every dog that barks, have you considered my destination is to actually help those dogs crying for help, well now you know.

Rozz:
hmm.Thanks

The usual JW onslaught.

Wait until you start learning of many of their Elders, Circuit Overseers, Publishers as Child Abusers just like the Catholic Priest and many of their ever changing human doctrine supposedly "approved" formerly by Jehovah and their embarrassing attempts to explain them all away as "New Light" like some New Age idealists and you will be shocked.

achorladey:


Rozz: I have started asking my pastors some questions regarding that,but he only warned me to be very careful of JW. lol

Achorladey: Were you to be in the witness ORGANIZATION and raised QUESTIONS regarding their beliefs from those they TAGGED APOSTATES you will equally get same WARNING to be careful or told OUTRIGHT (don't listen to them or collect their materials).

The title of the THREAD says I am beginning to REASON with JWs you should add the Muslims too. They too accept the SHEMA and search out other UNITARIAN CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS

TRINITY doctrine remain unending DISCUSSION on Nairaland and everywhere else. It never DIES. The same JWs that will argue about TRINITY and say it is DEAD and BURIED will APPEAR in another thread discussing the same TRINITY that he just admit it's DEAD and BURIED.

So have you asked why many still come back to it? Every now and then. Three things come up

DOGMATISM( mine is right others are wrong), JUDGEMENTALISM( there doctrines is wrong ours is right, they are bad, we are good) and SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS(we are the true Christians they are false CHRISTIANS, they will perish we are the only one that will survive) the post of Maximus69 and Janosky give you a glimpse of what the story is all about.

I too have been involved in such DISCUSSION before but not anymore. The things and spirit having that unending DISCUSSION breeds is those mentioned above.

You will accept the teachings of the JWs and still retain the THREE things above. So what improvement have you indeed made about KNOWING GOD.

Like MuttlleyLaff stated the moment you begin to THINK you can know everything about God is the MOMENT you CONFINED GOD into a BOX.

Matthew 11:27 comes to mind. 27 All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.

TRINITY doctrine ITSELF will not bar you from MISSING JESUS HIMSELF explaining the relationship that exists between the Himself, His Father and the Spirit of God.......reechoing kobojunkie words

The hypocrites are even more satanic. Immediately, you wake up to all the atrocities done in the mold of JW doctrines and ask bold questions. You get disfellowished and next ostracized by your loved ones too.

Family Breakers exactly like the Devil who come first acting like the light but end up stealing, killing and destroying.

RussellRutherfo:

The usual JW onslaught.

Wait until you start learning of many of their Elders, Circuit Overseers, Publishers as Child Abusers just like the Catholic Priest and many of their ever changing human doctrine supposedly "approved" formerly by Jehovah and their embarrassing attempts to explain them all away as "New Light" like some New Age idealists and you will be shocked.

The bolded make me

As long as JEHOVAH equals ORGANIZATION (where JWs boxed God into) anything is possible in the land of JWs.

even if it involves bringing REPROACH on Jehovah's name with many DISAPPROVED teaching and doctrines which like you said they will TURN into NEW LIGHT.

Like someone saying Jesus Christ TURN WEEDS to WHEATS when he came back in 1919 to restructure and reorganize TRUE CHRISTIANITY since the same TRUE CHRISTIANITY disappears after the death of the apostle +/- 100 C.E.

achorladey:

Like someone saying Jesus Christ TURN WEEDS to WHEATS when he came back in 1919 to restructure and reorganize TRUE CHRISTIANITY since the same TRUE CHRISTIANITY disappears after the death of the apostle +/- 100 C.E.

What organization believes that Satan was thrown down from the Heavens in 1914?
That is also JW doctrine, right?

I used to know a mother and son who tried to preach that to me once...I bombarded them with questions and the mother got irritated not long into the conversation. I can't wait to see them again though so I could pose more questions. Back before I came to know God, I used to entertain the JWs so I could spend time debating ideas about God with them.

Janosky:


No DECEIVE yourself.
Luke 9:30-35 Read, Study and RECEIVE SENSE, Yahweh Himself Says Trinitarian TWIST of John 1:1,14 is a FRAUD.

The popular English version of John 1:1 IS VERY DIFFERENT from the koine Greek language of John 1:1. The Word was facing towards the God and the Word was divine (Greek Theos= a god/God).
The Word is Theos, A god= divine.
Bros,John1:1, John 17:3 says Jesus is NOT the True God,his Father.

Colossians 1:19, it PLEASES the Father, Yahweh TO GIVE divine quality (nature) to His Son.

Fraudster.
Greek Theos also means God and you selectively picked just "god" to fit your WatchTower Society lies. Even a glance at JW Kingdom Interlinear 1985 shows no where is the word "Jehovah" indicated but forced in a record 237 times by JW in other to further the false JW Arain teaching.

And this is why aside in the perverse New World Translation that they edited John 1:1. They also had to edit John 1:18 to be "god" instead of "God" or "Son" that Other translations render it as because John 1:18 is making it very clear to you that no man has seen or can claim to know God (Theos) except the very unique one who himself is God (Theos) who has revealed God (Theos) to us all(NLT). This means not even the Israelites or Moses whom the Old Testament or Hebrew Scriptures was revealed to can know or explain God (Theos) better than the very unique One who himself is Theos (God). We can only understand or see God in Jesus. This would make perfect sense why Jesus claimed that the Father and he are One and that all who honours him already honours the Father. Now, see their Kingdom Interlinear. Both Greek letterings of "θεόν" or "θεὸς" both mean same Theos (God) but see how they cunningly rendered one of it to be "God" and the other "god" to fit their forced Arian teaching of Jesus subdivision God.

John 1:18 NLT — No one has ever seen God. But the unique One, who is himself God, is near to the Father’s heart. He has revealed God to us.

Greek Text (TR)
Jhn 1:18 — θεὸν οὐδεὶς ἑώρακεν πώποτε· ὁ μονογενὴς υἱός, ὁ ὢν εἰς τὸν κόλπον τοῦ πατρὸς ἐκεῖνος ἐξηγήσατο

JW Kingdom Interlinear 1985 on John 1:18:

θεὸν Godοὐδεὶς no oneἑώρακεν has seenπώποτε· at any time;μονογενὴς only-begottenθεὸς godὁ the (one)ὢν beingεἰς intoτὸν theκόλπον bosomτοῦ of theπατρὸς Fatherἐκεῖνος that (one)ἐξηγήσατο.

RussellRutherfo:



The hypocrites are even more satanic. Immediately, you wake up to all the atrocities done in the mold of JW doctrines and ask bold questions. You get disfellowished and next ostracized by your loved ones too.

Family Breakers exactly like the Devil who come first acting like the light but end up stealing, killing and destroying.

For the above you might want to see this

https://www.docdroid.net/aXa555I/2020-07-08-press-release-1-pdf

as it concerns all what you highlighted in your post

RussellRutherfo:


Fraudster.
Greek Theos also means God and you selectively picked just "god" to fit your WatchTower Society lies. Even a glance at JW Kingdom Interlinear 1985 shows no where is the word "Jehovah" indicated but forced in a record 237 times by JW in other to further the false JW Arain teaching.

And this is why aside in the perverse New World Translation. They edited John 1:1. They also had to edit John 1:18 to be "god" instead of "God" or "Son" that Other translations render it as because John 1:18 is making it very clear to you that no man has seen or can claim to know God(Theos) except the very unique one who himself is God (Theos) has revealed God to us all(NLT).

John 1:18 NLT — No one has ever seen God. But the unique One, who is himself God, is near to the Father’s heart. He has revealed God to us.

Greek Text (TR)
Jhn 1:18 — θεὸν οὐδεὶς ἑώρακεν πώποτε· ὁ μονογενὴς υἱός, ὁ ὢν εἰς τὸν κόλπον τοῦ πατρὸς ἐκεῖνος ἐξηγήσατο

JW Kingdom Interlinear 1985 on John 1:18:

θεὸν Godοὐδεὶς no oneἑώρακεν has seenπώποτε· at any time;μονογενὴς only-begottenθεὸς godὁ the (one)ὢν beingεἰς intoτὸν theκόλπον bosomτοῦ of theπατρὸς Fatherἐκεῖνος that (one)ἐξηγήσατο.

Welcome strange one!
Please what is the name of your church and its stand on Trinity?

Rozz:
I have learnt alot and still learning,forget the jokes here sometimes, but you will agree with me that they are very knowledgeable here apart from fake pastor johnw47 who keeps repeating same verse but I believe he has also learned alot but his yeye pride will not let him admit it

however thank God i know more than you oh most duh lie lie rozz
who like false jw's cannot stop lying:


Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Rozz:
night crawler

poor tormented lost lie lie rozz

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

DappaD:

Welcome strange one!
Please what is the name of your church and its stand on Trinity?

weak phony jw's cannot ask about what is said in the post, just what is your church