GRIMMJOE:
Is Sugar Daddy a good thing to promote.
The reason I don't believe in trinity is because I understand the concept of Trinity, the same reason I don't believe in Islam even though I understand it.
In other words, "People believe what they don't understand, because it's easier to just shut down their brain and let a book do the thinking"
If you finally understand what Trinity is, you too won't believe in it, you won't believe in the Holy Spirit, You won't believe in Jesus, you won't believe in God.

So prepare or open a thread for only two commentators, so that whoever feels he's bold enough to chat with a JW can come forward and let's see the stuff they're made of!
Conditions~
©Each will properly introduced himself and his church or faculty. (Atheism, Islam, Buddha)
©Each will ask a question at a time and the other will supply the answer.
©Each must respect the opinion of the other so on insults, abuses or cursing.
©Each must have restraint to allow the audience decide what to do, so no arguments.
Just make presentations of what you know that can benefit both yourself and others if we all live by it.
Let's see how mature you are!

Maximus69:


So prepare or open a thread for only two commentators, so that whoever feels he's bold enough to chat with a JW can come forward and let's see the stuff they're made of!
Conditions~
©Each will properly introduced himself and his church or faculty. (Atheism, Islam, Buddha)
©Each will ask a question at a time and the other will supply the answer.
©Each must respect the opinion of the other so on insults, abuses or cursing.
©Each must have restraint to allow the audience decide what to do, so no arguments.
Just make presentations of what you know that can benefit both yourself and others if we all live by it.
Let's see how mature you are!

If you have something to say, say it.

If you want to create a thread, create it, life is simple.

GRIMMJOE:
Nobody is stressing him, he can delete his account whenever he wants.

you will not heed to my warning now,i may choose to come very hard on you

GRIMMJOE:
Sugar Daddy have a different meaning, just listen to your self.

You quoted a dictionary but you're not smart enough to edit the definition of Sugar Daddy!

The book you pasted said a rich older man (like Maximus) who lavishes gifts on a young woman (like Rozz) in return for her company or sexual favours.

Now Rozz decided to make Maximus69 her Sugar Daddy for keeping her company with gifts of Spiritual nourishment which she admitted publicly. But your own mind is focused on the other part that says "sexual favours".

So you supposed to have edited the part that says in return for her company because there are two options!

It's you that's trying to make it seems as if the second option is the appropriate meaning of the phrase "Sugar Daddy", the dictionary you're quoting says otherwise!

TATIME:


You quoted a dictionary but you're not smart enough to edit the definition of Sugar Daddy!

The book you pasted said a rich older man (like Maximus) who lavishes gifts on a young woman (like Rozz) in return for her company or sexual favours.

Now Rozz decided to make Maximus69 her Sugar Daddy for keeping her company with gifts of Spiritual nourishment which she admitted publicly. But your own mind is focused on the other part that says "sexual favours".

So you supposed to have edited the part that says in return for her company because there are two options!

It's you that's trying to make it seems as if the second option is the appropriate meaning of the phrase "Sugar Daddy", the dictionary you're quoting says otherwise!

Don't worry my brother, GRIMMJOE is a freethinker so he's free to think whatever he likes it's just a pity that he pasted something that really makes him look stupid!

Maximus69:


That's to show you how bitter and painful the truth can be!
You yourself bear me witness that i've been so harsh with you right from the beginning, so what actually made you labelled me as your SD?
The answer is simple my dear, it because you're no crooked, your heart is pure!
That's exactly what Jesus' teachings did to many religious title chiefs of his time, they were all bent on attacking Jesus, yet they themselves are not in agreement!

Don't mind that GRIMMJOE,like I said don't allow anybody to stress you

TATIME:


Then if that is the case, you're saying Trinitarians are dumb abi?
Well "Sugar Daddy" had different meaning to different people, Rozz labelled Maximus SD due to the fact that she felt relieved anytime she's reading his comments, the only issue is saying only JWs are worshipers of the true God
Apart from that i can tell from the way she responds to Maximus69 that if he's a young man and not a staunch JW, by now they'll be out there dating because Rozz has fallen for him!

well,you are right lol

GRIMMJOE:
If you have something to say, say it.
If you want to create a thread, create it, life is simple.

I only make presentations of what i believe when i found someone who seems to need it.

It's just a pity that you don't believe in the Bible records of Jesus, i'll have advised you to pick up a copy of the Bible and go through if it's Jesus that's going about asking Pharisee questions or they're the ones coming up with questions!

So if any of them believe they're capable, let them open a thread and invite me, Pharisees invited Jesus several times to have the opportunity of questioning him so i'll honour their invitation, but as for me i know just as you too have said that Trinitarians are empty headed so there is no need of inviting them for anything!

Rozz:
well,you are right lol

Haaaaaaa Rozz!
So Tatime is right for saying you've fallen for me?
I'm leaving the thread!

Maximus69:
Haaaaaaa Rozz! So Tatime is right for saying you've fallen for me? I'm leaving the thread!

lol but you are daddy and a grandpa.

Maximus69:

Haaaaaaa Rozz!
So Tatime is right for saying you've fallen for me?
I'm leaving the thread!

Don't be scared Baba, Rozz can only chat with you on Nairaland!

Rozz:
lol but you are daddy and a grandpa.

Please tell GRIMMJOE!
Because right from the onset he has been on the issue of this SD SB as if something gives him a knock on his head each time you address me Sugar Daddy!

Ooh, it's 3 against 1

TATIME:


Don't be scared Baba, Rozz can only chat with you on Nairaland!

lol

TATIME:


You quoted a dictionary but you're not smart enough to edit the definition of Sugar Daddy!

The book you pasted said a rich older man (like Maximus) who lavishes gifts on a young woman (like Rozz) in return for her company or sexual favours.

Now Rozz decided to make Maximus69 her Sugar Daddy for keeping her company with gifts of Spiritual nourishment which she admitted publicly. But your own mind is focused on the other part that says "sexual favours".

So you supposed to have edited the part that says in return for her company because there are two options!

It's you that's trying to make it seems as if the second option is the appropriate meaning of the phrase "Sugar Daddy", the dictionary you're quoting says otherwise!

But you've failed to prove spiritual nourishment exist, so it has to be sexual favour she's receiving whatever he's giving her.

GRIMMJOE:

But you've failed to prove spiritual nourishment exist, so it has to be sexual favour she's receiving whatever he's giving her.

Thank God i'm not a freethinker!

You can't even grasp simple logic. Spiritual nourishment simply means she's comforted with the way this person present Bible truth, and it's you that's feeling otherwise because Rozz actually opened this thread to prove that she's now receiving Spiritual nourishment that surpasses that of the TRINITY.
Note the topic of the thread!
My guy, this freethinking stuff is not good for you o!

Maximus69:


Thank God i'm not a freethinker!

You can't even grasp simple logic. Spiritual nourishment simply means she's comforted with the way this person present Bible truth, and it's you that's feeling otherwise because Rozz actually opened this thread to prove that she's now receiving Spiritual nourishment that surpasses that of the TRINITY.
Note the topic of the thread!
My guy, this freethinking stuff is not good for you o!

He's fond of laying accusations on one person after the other

GRIMMJOE:
Ooh, it's 3 against 1

Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, all the commentators are against you but hypocrisy will not allow them to come out and lash you with words for saying their mother "TRINITY" makes no practical sense!
They want to criticize Jehovah's Witnesses, you pour sand for their gari when you debunked their mother god!
So don't think it's only three that's against you, i told you that you're not supposed to join in this debate but stupidly ignored the wise advice now all of them have turned away from following you after i intelligently pushed you to insult their mother god "TRINITY"

You still have a long way to go in learning when to speak and when to be silent! Ecclesiastes 3:7

Maximus69:


Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, all the commentators are against you but hypocrisy will not allow them to come out and lash you with words for saying their mother "TRINITY" makes no practical sense!
They want to criticize Jehovah's Witnesses, you pour sand for their gari when you debunked their mother god!
So don't think it's only three that's against you, i told you that you're not supposed to join in this debate but stupidly ignored the wise advice now all of them have turned away from following you after i intelligently pushed you to insult their mother god "TRINITY"

You still have a long way to go in learning when to speak and when to be silent! Ecclesiastes 3:7

I think he's a teenager so it's easy to navigate his thoughts towards any direction, ATHEISM caught him very young, he's now trying to fight against the influence of religion.
Atheists deceived him with their bait of absolute freedom but he's so naive that even when he's been enslaved he still thinks he's free, he claims freethinker yet he can't free his mind from having to argue with religionists every day!

GRIMMJOE:


"People believe what they don't understand, because it's easier to just shut down their brain and let a book do the thinking"

If you finally understand what Trinity is, you too won't believe in it, you won't believe in the Holy Spirit, You won't believe in Jesus, you won't believe in God.

This is the comment that sent all Trinitarians on their heels, by now they're all silent because you really debunked their mother god TRINITY!

We are Jehovah's Witnesses!

There is just one Jehovah and he is the God that the JWs are working for, whoever goes against the group is endangering his/her life because Armageddon is fast approaching!

DappaD:

Why did you put the 144,000 in quote? Na JW manufacture the number or na wetin dey Bible? (Revelation 7:1-8, 14:1-5)
If your supposed exJW brother who was anointed deviated from the truth that's his business!
Jehovah God knows those who belong to him! (2Timothy 2:19)
All we know is that the anointed ones follow the counsel at 2Peter 1:10.
“Brothers, be all the more diligent to make your calling and choosing sure for yourselves, for if you keep on doing these things, you will by no means ever fail.”
The bolded states that an anointed Christian would only get his reward if he remains faithful to his death!
When you're ready, state your stand on Trinity and then we can take you serious.

What truth did Raymond Franz deviate from? Name just 2 of such truth he deviated from.

Kobojunkie:
I don't agree!
Much of what I have read is page after page, of doctrines and traditions of men -- all of them meaningless as far as Jesus Christ and the things of God are concerned. Not many attempts at using God's own words to answer the original question which is about God Himself, is it not?

The answer you seek is clearly expressed in the Gospel of John. You could have read through the book about 30 times now if you had stuck to letting the word of God explain Himself through His written words to you, [/b]and kept your peace of mind and dignity too.

[b]NB: About the uselessness of doctrines and traditions of men, Jesus Christ Himself said it - I don't make these things up.

Bros, are you really sure?


GENUINE Testimony
John 8:17-18
"The Testimony of two witnesses is true"
I bear witness about myself and also my Father who sent me bears witness about me"

2 Cor 13:1, 2 Cor 11:31.
1 Cor 3:23 "You belong to Christ,in turn Christ belongs to God"

Bros, do you agree?


Yahweh's Testimony
Matthew 3:17.
"A voice from heaven said
'This is my son, whom I love"

1 John 5:9
"We accept man's Testimony,but God's Testimony is greater,because it is the Testimony of God,which he has given about His Son".

Jesus Testimony

John 3:16, "For God so loved the world He gave His only begotten son...."

John 20:17
"I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to your God and my God"


John 5:37,43.
" My Father who sent me has testified about me"
You have NEVER heard his voice ,nor seen His appearance"
" I have come in my Father's name..."


Man's Testimony.
Matt 16:16-17
"Simon Peter answered: You are the Christ, the Son of the living God"
Blessed are you Simon ,son of Jonah,for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven"
(Compare Matt10:32, Revelations 3:5).

Bros, whose Testimony do you want to hear ?

RussellRutherfo:

The usual JW onslaught.
1)
Wait until you start learning of many of their Elders, Circuit Overseers, Publishers as Child Abusers just like the Catholic Priest

2)
and many of their ever changing human doctrine supposedly "approved" formerly by Jehovah and their embarrassing attempts to explain them all away as "New Light" like some New Age idealists and you will be shocked.

1)
"Touch not my anointed gods of men adulterers and do my profits no harm ,HYPOCRITE.
Membership fees paying Child abusers, ,serial predators, and unborn babies murderers full your business centre, while you turn a blind eye, it's all about the Benjamins .
You come NL dey run your mouth anyhow because them gullible sheeples dey Mumu buy data for you


2)
Exodus 24:5-6, Jehovah's servants offered animal sacrifices ,
Hebrews 10:10-18, Hebrews 13:10-16,
Jehovah Abolished animals sacrifices
through His Son, Jesus Christ.
Jehovah changed the doctrine & practice of His worshippers.

We no say your Mama no born you with teeth for your mouth, Go ahead and uproot all the teeth for your mouth Nau... Enemy of change..

rottennaija:


What truth did Raymond Franz deviate from? Name just 2 of such truth he deviated from.

Name the reputable organization that he joined after leaving the JW?

Maximus69:


Name the reputable organization that he joined after leaving the JW?

He joined the association of freethinkers claiming Christians with no specific rule of conduct and standards, Jesus is Lord!

my SD is a true soldier,many have come and gone but the jws remain unshakable,shame on GRIMMJOE,fake wealthy pastor johnw47 and co

rottennaija:


What truth did Raymond Franz deviate from? Name just 2 of such truth he deviated from.

Lol can you construct your rebuttals a little better please? You look like you're hanging onto thin thread. The reason why you and your uncle Franz left the truth is because of the scripture below.


1John 2:19
“They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us. But they went out so that it might be shown that not all are of our sort.”

Janosky:

Bros, are you really sure?

GENUINE Testimony
John 8:17-18
"The Testimony of two witnesses is true"
I bear witness about myself and also my Father who sent me bears witness about me"

2 Cor 13:1, 2 Cor 11:31.
1 Cor 3:23 "You belong to Christ,in turn Christ belongs to God"

Bros, do you agree?


Yahweh's Testimony
Matthew 3:17.
"A voice from heaven said
'This is my son, whom I love"

1 John 5:9
"We accept man's Testimony,but God's Testimony is greater,because it is the Testimony of God,which he has given about His Son".

Jesus Testimony

John 3:16, "For God so loved the world He gave His only begotten son...."

John 20:17
"I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to your God and my God"


John 5:37,43.
" My Father who sent me has testified about me"
You have NEVER heard his voice ,nor seen His appearance"
" I have come in my Father's name..."


Man's Testimony.
Matt 16:16-17
"Simon Peter answered: You are the Christ, the Son of the living God"
Blessed are you Simon ,son of Jonah,for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven"
(Compare Matt10:32, Revelations 3:5).

Bros, whose Testimony do you want to hear ?

I only believe Jesus Christ cause He and He alone is the Truth of God.

The montage of verses you have up there does not speak the Truth as Jesus Christ presents it. Rather than picking verses all over the place to bolster a personal "delusion" , why not simply abandon preconceptions and instead read through the gospel to learn truth from Jesus Christ alone?

I suggested the gospel of John because there in the words of Jesus Christ, the issue is resolved in Truth. Jesus Christ is the truth we seek.. so let Him explain it to her.

Kobojunkie:


Rather than picking verses all over the place

Oh so now he's picking verses abi
Earlier you said he was speaking on what you called “man-made doctrines” but now he's using the Bible to explain the things you ignorantly termed “man-made doctrines” he shouldn't pick verses again abi
Oga choose a hustle!

DappaD:

Oh so now he's picking verses abi
Earlier you said he was speaking on what you called “man-made doctrines” but now he's using the Bible to explain the things you ignorantly termed “man-made doctrines” he shouldn't pick verses again abi
Oga choose a hustle!

picking verses from all over will not help when the Truth of God Himself already provided the best explanation for the question asked.
Whose word willl you believe? Jesus Christ's or Janosky's? You choose !

DappaD:

Lol can you construct your rebuttals a little better please? You look like you're hanging onto thin thread. The reason why you and your uncle Franz left the truth is because of the scripture below.


1John 2:19
“They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us. But they went out so that it might be shown that not all are of our sort.”

Truth truth truth. When you see truth, can you stand it? Like one stated below?