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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 9:21pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:Okay so the scriptures Janosky quoted from the Bible, did he manufacture it? He showed you outright from the scriptures that Jesus is the Son of Jehovah God (Matthew 3:17, 16:16, John3:16, 14:28, 17:3, 20:17,23, 1John 5:9) Peter and Jesus said themselves that he[Jesus] was the Son of the true God, which is an established Biblical truth. And you want to come and give me trash that he's speaking on man-made doctrines Guy pick a hustle and stop changing your mouth here and there. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 9:21pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
rottennaija:I have warned you to stop quoting me with these your useless apostate books ![]() Guess you'll never learn then, continue. ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 9:30pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
DappaD: You are really funny. If you see apostate material, you wouldn't know. 2 Likes
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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 9:39pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
Maximus69: Maximus69, truth is no longer hidden. You hide from it. 1 Like
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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 9:40pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
RussellRutherfo: WAYO Desperado DECEIVING himself ![]() John 17:6,26, Jesus said "I have made your name manifest to the men you gave me" I have made your name known to them and will make it known...' Bros, whose name did Jesus Christ make known to men..? John 5:43 "I have come in my Father's name" Bros, what is his Father's name? Matt 6:9 "Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name.." Bros, who is the Father of Jesus Christ? What is the name of the Father of Jesus in heaven? ![]() Jesus spoke @ Matt4:10 to quote Deut 6:13. Bros, whose name did Jesus quote @ Deut 6:13? Jesus spoke @ Mark 12:29-30 to quote Deuteronomy 6:4-5. Whose name did Jesus quote @ Deut 6:4-5? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() WAYO Desperado so DESPERATE to hide by fire by force the HOLY name of the Father of Jesus Christ . Pikin wey dey hide him Father name Na EVIL Pikin ![]() ![]() Triune IDOL WORSHIPPER EXPOSING himself ![]() ![]() @ John 1:18, since you are here indirectly claiming to you are your Father wey BORN You, I see no reason to REFUTE your FOOLISHNESS |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 9:41pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
DappaD: Jesus Christ is the ONLY teacher for those who are Followers of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the Word of God. He is the way, the truth and the Life. Jesus Christ is the New Covenant that those who obey His commandments have with God. So whose word will you trust, even in this case, Jesus Christ's own teaching on this, Peter's word or Paul's? ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 9:43pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
Maximus69: Maximus69, I'm not looking for another organisation to join. It's not by force. 2 Likes
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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 9:50pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
rottennaija: According to your screenshot, last year 2019 , according to Jesus Christ, "the kingdom of God is at hand... Year 2020 "the kingdom of God is at hand" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() JWs can see that rottennaija knows the Bible more than Jesus Christ himself ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 9:54pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
Janosky: Are you sure you don't need glasses? I can pay for one for you. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 10:19pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:It's obvious from here on that you've roped yourself into further confusion! ![]() So the reason you can't connect the Bible as a whole is because of this thinking of yours! 2Timothy 3:16 |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 10:29pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
DappaD: The Word of God refers to the Word out of the mouth of God, and Jesus Christ is the word of God made human. The Word of God is TRUTH. ![]() The book that is the Bible like any other book that contains stories was written by human hands and in human words. The one thing about the book is that it also contains the written word of God. Meaning? The book is not God's truth. The Word of God refers to the Words out of the mouth of God contained in the book. ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 10:32pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:Omoh guy carry your philosophy comot for here! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 10:42pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
DappaD:No philosophy ! |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 10:47pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:Have you taken out time to look at the following scriptures? Romans 15:4, 2Timothy 3:16 & 2Peter 1:20-21? Please do so and know that the entire Bible is inspired of God. Jesus is called “The Word of God” because he served as God's spokesman while on earth (John 12:48-50) |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 10:53pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
DappaD:What? ![]() Are you saying His job as the Word of God expired when He ascended? ![]() You mean He lied when He said, " I am the way, The Truth, and the Life"? ![]() Jesus Christ somehow seized to be the TRUTH of God? ![]() Everything Jesus Christ said while He was here on earth no longer apply as Truth...His truth expired? ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 10:59pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:That's not what I'm saying sir Of course Jesus is the Greatest Teacher that ever lived so his teachings are what true Christians today study, live by and preach. My emphasis was that all what he taught stemmed from His Superior, Jehovah God! (John 12:48-50, 14:28) |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 11:06pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
DappaD:The greatest teacher that ever lived and the ONLY Teacher of those who are His followers, right? ![]() According to Jesus Christ, He is the ONLY Teacher of all His followers. So is this true or ia this a lie? ![]() Did His role as the ONLY Teacher expire when He left the earth? ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 11:29pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
No worries, my mistake...But that's the problem bro-none of us know directly who we are-we just need to go by the fruit, if they aren't talking the talk, then obviously they are from another tribe.. johnw47: |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 11:47pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:You are shifting off the whole course now. Well okay Jesus was called the Great Teacher because he himself was taught by the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, Jehovah God. (John 12:48-50) And that was possible because he had existed in heaven already, as archangel Michael (Proverbs 8:22-31, John 1:14, 3:13, Jude 9) The crowds which Jesus taught were usually amazed by his God-given wisdom that they asked themselves “Where did this man get this wisdom and these powerful works?” (Matthew 13:54; see also Matthew 7:28-29) Another reason why Jesus was called the Great Teacher is that he reflected his Father's qualities 100% which included love for people, Jesus had genuine love for all people - men, women and children that he was always out preaching the good news of God's Kingdom and also healing and curing the sick, raising the dead etc. He did that out of love for the people. For one, Jesus was never irritated by the many questions people asked him, including the Pharisees, he was always patient with them. (Galatians 5:22-23) With his God-given wisdom, he knew how to break down the concept of God's Kingdom to things people could understand. He used illustrations that the people listening to him could grasp and understand. So in all his teachings and dealings, he reflected God's qualities perfectly (Colossians 1:15) Jesus came to the earth to carry out TWO major tasks and which he has completed already 2000years ago (John 17:4): 1. To preach the good news of God's Kingdom (Matthew 4:23, Luke 4:43, 8:1) 2. To give his life as a ransom so that those exercising faith in him can have their sins forgiven and so that they can have everlasting life (Matthew 20:28, John 3:16, 1Timothy 2:5,6, Titus 2:13-14) All of Jesus' teachings are recorded in the Bible which are beneficial for us to learn and apply. So neither God nor Jesus speaks directly to anybody today via any means! Today anyone who says God or Jesus spoke to him directly is just lying to himself! (Hebrews 1:1-3) |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:48pm On Jul 10, 2020 |
Rozz: lie lie rozz, join them, you are off the devil as they are: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. read here and learn more about your satans mob |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 12:00am On Jul 11, 2020 |
Maximus69: the heart of lie lie rozz is pure, laughing she is an habitual liar like you are, and you and tatime encourage her to stay that way you satans mob have been blinded by him, your god: 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 12:03am On Jul 11, 2020 |
rottennaija: Na OFF LIMIT be this question. There is every chance you will never get an answer for this. The principal writers of INSIGHTS on THE SCRIPTURES for that matter seen as DEVIATING from the TRUTH ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 12:07am On Jul 11, 2020 |
rottennaija: You for tell am make e go read book. The man write book. Make e go find reason why the man no gree join ANOTHER ORGANIZATION |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 12:10am On Jul 11, 2020 |
rottennaija: Like the latest adjustment on Joel's prophecy rather than call in FALSE TEACHING, they said its PAST TRUTH, PAST UNDERSTANDING ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 12:12am On Jul 11, 2020 |
DappaD: I don't understand the essence of introducing the claims of His greatness when what we are concerned with here is the Truth of who He is as regards the OP question posed. ![]() Do you plan to directly respond to any of the questions I have asked regarding this or not? ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 12:12am On Jul 11, 2020 |
rottennaija: What a point made here����. Its plain REALITY. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 12:18am On Jul 11, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:Maybe you should structure your questions in an organized manner then You asked me how and why Jesus is called the Great Teacher and I answered you so you want to keep shifting off course? ![]() All of Jesus' teachings are recorded in the Bible for those who truly want to do the will of God. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 12:20am On Jul 11, 2020 |
DappaD: ![]() Kobojunkie: |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 12:23am On Jul 11, 2020 |
DappaD: See as you quickly jumped on 1 John 2:19 that's what Kobojunkie is saying picking verses here and there had you read verse 18 before 19 you will understand why that scripture don't apply to the personality you attached. They are not our SORT was not written in the sense/context to mean MEMBERS OF AN ORGANIZATION set up by MEN. That is not what John meant in that scripture. Rather you should have asked Did he LEAVE JESUS CHRIST? That would have been appropriate. The reason rottennaija said if you see APOSTATES materials you cannot identify it ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 12:31am On Jul 11, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:Jesus commissioned his disciples to also preach and teach what he[Jesus] taught about God's Kingdom Matthew 24:14, 28:19-20, 1Corinthians 11:23, 1Thessalonians 2:13, Colossians 1:28 And like the Bible stated, Jesus came to the earth to carry out TWO major tasks. 1. To preach the good news of God's Kingdom (Matthew 4:23, Luke 4:43, 8:1) 2. To give his life as a ransom so that those exercising faith in him can have their sins forgiven and so that they can have everlasting life (Matthew 20:28, John 3:16, 1Timothy 2:5,6, Titus 2:13-14) So Jesus completed his assignment as a Great Teacher and as a corresponding ransom sacrifice while he was on earth (John 17:4) |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Kobojunkie: 12:39am On Jul 11, 2020 |
DappaD:Nevermind... i thought you were being serious for once ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 12:40am On Jul 11, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:Shey you have started again? From asking me whether the Bible is God's Word to asking me why Jesus is called the Great Teacher and now you're reverting back to the topic of this thread? ![]() ![]() You, my friend are obviously confused ![]() ![]() |
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