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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 9:51pm On Jul 12, 2020
andrewbaba44:

Liverpool mancity are ready
Maybe man united with their new found form
Chelshit are bang average and aren’t ready either
Plastic club
I don't think Liverpool would perform next season

Man United form dey shock me self
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Herbiedeen(m): 9:53pm On Jul 12, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


Xavi was a step ahead almost all players when it comes to tactical play and his tactical breakdown in interviews were always a delight.
Na Football Manager he wan play??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 9:53pm On Jul 12, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


https://www.nairaland.com/3018619/super-eagles-thread-dawn-new/5554#76226974

I just had to bring this post back for people to understand my expectation for Rodgers. I knew there was a big chance for his bias to affect Nacho's playing time. I just hoped a bit of fairness. However, it seems he is bent on his bias route. Embarrassed himself today. Thought he has set up the stage for another Vardy show.

My advice to Nacho's managers. Hit Real Betis Big time. Secure a loan for Nacho to Betis it Pellegrini will want to take him. Even if it means a reduction in pay.

I dont know but home grown nigerian/african players dont understand the european transfer market and how it can boist their career. They just go anywhere
Pellegrini will most likely sign him as he was his former coach. BUT home grown players are poorly managed. Isaac success should have gone vack to la liga long ago

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 9:55pm On Jul 12, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


Xavi was a step ahead almost all players when it comes to tactical play and his tactical breakdown in interviews were always a delight.

And Gerrard wasn't tactical enough in his playing days ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:01pm On Jul 12, 2020
Danielnino00:


And Gerrard wasn't tactical enough in his playing days ?

Gérard can not scratch a grey matter in Xavi's brain. Xavi is the past, present and future of football. Gérard is the past.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:07pm On Jul 12, 2020
TheGoodJoe I really do admire your theoretical tactical ingenuity, but I can't quite fathom why you haven't really considered venturing into football management. If tactics were easily construed as you drop them here, though with references to their original initiators, then, the likes of Guardiola would be winning games every other week. Nonetheless, you might make a good manager(tactician) and I suggest you start from any of the academies over there in PH, then NNL club through the NPFL.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:10pm On Jul 12, 2020
Forgiveness Solanke Ajagun Ilori good evening sir grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 10:15pm On Jul 12, 2020
Danielnino00:


Roy Hodgson came in and messed up some of Bentitez good works at the club...
Now we have Klopp..

It seems like you started supporting Liverpool around the time Klopp came in...I have no problem with that of course,but normally,fans should get used to all sort of things ..both success and failure..

Man utd enjoyed many years of success under Ferguson but had to endure a lot of things after he left... Arsenal fans are in that position too.
Real Madrid were in that position before..
AC Milan are in there too .
Barca looks like they may go that route too.

It's al normal..

Dude I have been supporting Liverpool since 2004/ 2005....I k ow what it means to wallow in defeat after defeat. I know what it is to win just 3 home games all season.....don't tell me about loyalty. You're preaching to the choir. You like acting like you're the only loyal Liverpool fan around when others don't share your views.

How am I sure you didn't even supporting Liverpool two years ago...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 10:16pm On Jul 12, 2020
ChrisKels:


Who else gives away possession in avalenche the way Nacho does, who else gets entangled with the ball, who else finds it difficult to bring the ball under control or beat his marker?

Bro, Nacho is becoming really terrible

Iheanacho's problem is bad first touch, a very common problem for forwards because they play higher up the pitch where they are mostly crowded out.

In fact, of the top 20 players with bad control, all of them are forwards. Iheanacho, who is 14th, is in good company with Raul Jiminez, Salah, Sadio, Kane and Martial in the top 20.

In the Eibar game where Messi scored 4 goals, he made the most unsuccessful first touch of any player.

Losing possession is only a bad thing when you have done nothing the other time you had possession.
Iheanacho had 2 shots on target in 45 mins, the other 12 players that featured for Leicester, not counting the goalie, had 3 combined in the whole 90 mins.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 10:17pm On Jul 12, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Tell Daniel your guy ,I just Dey look am we he is just deceiving him self

Steven Gerrard might not even become half the coach Rodgers was grin

I dey try open him eyes but him say him still wan to dey use walking stick....

I know say him go cry after one season of Gerrard....you know say him sabi wail well well
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 10:20pm On Jul 12, 2020
Samueltemi337:
I don't think Liverpool would perform next season


Man United form dey shock me self

How do you rush to such conclusion?

After Man City 100 points season, that's how you bear parlor analyst predicted doom....na hate syndrome dey worry una cheesy

Of Liverpool no perform, na Man Shitty wan perform....

This thread no go cease to amaze me grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 10:22pm On Jul 12, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


Xavi was a step ahead almost all players when it comes to tactical play and his tactical breakdown in interviews were always a delight.

So were Thierry Henry and Micah Richards, elite pundits. All pundits think they are great coaches till when relegated Cambridge United beat you 4-1 and you start getting death threats from fans.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:22pm On Jul 12, 2020
Blueelf:


Dude I have been supporting Liverpool since 2004/ 2005....I k ow what it means to wallow in defeat after defeat. I know what it is to win just 3 home games all season.....don't tell me about loyalty. You're preaching to the choir. You like acting like you're the only loyal Liverpool fan around when others don't share your views.

How am I sure you didn't even supporting Liverpool two years ago...

If you know anything about loyalty,then why are you whining about Gerrard coming to coach?

You said you are already used to success under Klopp..
Which success?
We just started winning trophies again last year!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:25pm On Jul 12, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


Gérard can not scratch a grey matter in Xavi's brain. Xavi is the past, present and future of football. Gérard is the past.

Better players than Xavi have gone into football coaching and didn't succed.

Being a great player doesn't guarantee being a great coach..
Aside Zidane,I can hardly mention any great manager today that was once a great footballer!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:26pm On Jul 12, 2020
Blueelf:


Dude I have been supporting Liverpool since 2004/ 2005....I k ow what it means to wallow in defeat after defeat. I know what it is to win just 3 home games all season.....don't tell me about loyalty. You're preaching to the choir. You like acting like you're the only loyal Liverpool fan around when others don't share your views.

How am I sure you didn't even supporting Liverpool two years ago...

You started supporting Liverpool in 2005/2006, but you couldn't remember who signed Firmino grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:28pm On Jul 12, 2020
Danielnino00:


Better players than Xavi have gone into football coaching and didn't succed.

Being a great player doesn't guarantee being a great coach..
Aside Zidane,I can hardly mention any great manager today that was once a great footballer!

Guardiola.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:28pm On Jul 12, 2020
Danielnino00:


Better players than Xavi have gone into football coaching and didn't succed.

Being a great player doesn't guarantee being a great coach..
Aside Zidane,I can hardly mention any great manager today that was once a great footballer!

Diego Simeone.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:30pm On Jul 12, 2020
TheLoneCitizen:


So were Thierry Henry and Micah Richards, elite pundits. All pundits think they are great coaches till when relegated Cambridge United beat you 4-1 and you start getting death threats from fans.

There is a difference between playing the game and controlling the game. Those who controlled the game with intelligence and understanding have a better chance.

Look at my comment on Zidane when he took over Real Madrid.


TheGoodJoe:
Contrary to most belief, I see Zidane succeeding. He spent time with the junior team of Madrid mastering his craft. He ran some programs in Germany with Guardiola to sharpen his understanding of possession football.

He gained a lot from coaches refining his game and played a part in the development of young bright talents like Sarabia, Morata, Jese, Carvajal.

I think Zidane is the right coach for the job but I feel Benitez deserved more time.

https://www.nairaland.com/2842141/benitez-sacked-zidane-take-over#41690136
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:33pm On Jul 12, 2020
Fourth spot is way out of their reach. The confirmed Top 4 will be Juve, Atalanta, Inter and Lazio in no particular order (ofcos I expect Juve will be Champs eventually).

Coppa Italia title has taken them into the Europa? But 5th and 6th in Serie A are also guaranteed Europa spots. Didn't even think of the Coppa Italia title.

Napoli playing 2-2 now anyway. Milan had a penalty. They create chances aplenty and attack so well. Finishing up chances is their bane. I admit they have been so good and consistent since the restart. Their only blip was the loss to Atalanta and even that game saw them lose b'cos they couldn't take their numerous chances. Plus Atalanta are ruthless with their own chances.


TheLoneCitizen:


Napoli have nothing to play for here except bragging rights, finishing spot (they can't catch fourth) and team morale.
They won the Coppa Italia which gives them a guaranteed Europa League spot.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:34pm On Jul 12, 2020
Danielnino00:


Better players than Xavi have gone into football coaching and didn't succed.

Being a great player doesn't guarantee being a great coach..
Aside Zidane,I can hardly mention any great manager today that was once a great footballer!

Ancelotti and Rijkaard were brilliant footballers. Pazarella was also brilliant. Mario Zagallo was also very brilliant. Johan Cruyff was a footballing genius. Bobby Robson was a sound footballer too.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:35pm On Jul 12, 2020
Danielnino00:


You started supporting Liverpool in 2005/2006, but you couldn't remember who signed Firmino grin


ElfMan here is a TKO
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:37pm On Jul 12, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


There is a difference between playing the game and controlling the game. Those who controlled the game with intelligence and understanding have a better chance.

Look at my comment on Zidane when he took over Real Madrid.




https://www.nairaland.com/2842141/benitez-sacked-zidane-take-over#41690136

Bros no dey waste ur talent here

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:39pm On Jul 12, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


Ancelotti and Rijkaard were brilliant footballers. Pazarella was also brilliant. Mario Zagallo was also very brilliant. Johan Cruyff was a footballing genius. Bobby Robson was a sound footballer too.

Marandona,Gary Neville,Henry,Shearer,Tony Adams, Marco Van Basten,Seedorf,Bobby Charlton they were brilliant footballers but failed at coaching...

Has Xavi even done anything spectacular at Qatar yet?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:43pm On Jul 12, 2020
Danielnino00:


Marandona,Gary Neville,Henry,Shearer,Tony Adams, Marco Van Basten,Seedorf,Bobby Charlton they were brilliant footballers but failed at coaching...

Has Xavi even done anything spectacular at Qatar yet?

In that list, how many controlled the game tactically and I do not count Van Basten a failure. I don't know why he did not continue but his Dutch Euro side was one of the best I ever watched. Abramovic made a big mistake turning him down.

At the end, it is not about great technical talent but tactical knowhow.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:48pm On Jul 12, 2020
Danielnino00:


Marandona,Gary Neville,Henry,Shearer,Tony Adams, Marco Van Basten,Seedorf,Bobby Charlton they were brilliant footballers but failed at coaching...

Has Xavi even done anything spectacular at Qatar yet?

If you got to do it, do it in style.

Highlights of Van Basten's Dutch side in Euro 2008 against France.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtO3DNsImy8
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:49pm On Jul 12, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


In that list, how many controlled the game tactically and I do not count Van Basten a failure. I don't know why he did not continue but his Dutch Euro side was one of the best I ever watched. Abramovic made a big mistake turning him down.

At the end, it is not about great technical talent but tactical knowhow.

Henry and Marandona alone dwarf your previous list....


@ bolded I think technical talent and tactical know how go hand in hand..

IMO, the thing that makes a great manager is the same thing that makes a great footballer; passion for the game!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 10:52pm On Jul 12, 2020
TheGoodJoe:


There is a difference between playing the game and controlling the game. Those who controlled the game with intelligence and understanding have a better chance.

Look at my comment on Zidane when he took over Real Madrid.




https://www.nairaland.com/2842141/benitez-sacked-zidane-take-over#41690136

You do have a point, though.

But are you expecting the whole Barcelona midfield (past and present) to inevitably turn prime Mourinho as managers, since thy are all deft at dictating tempo?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:01pm On Jul 12, 2020
Danielnino00:


Marandona,Gary Neville,Henry,Shearer,Tony Adams, Marco Van Basten,Seedorf,Bobby Charlton they were brilliant footballers but failed at coaching...

Has Xavi even done anything spectacular at Qatar yet?

Van Basten's Netherlands vs Italy (Expansive football lessons)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73hkEDIR9e8
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:03pm On Jul 12, 2020
TheLoneCitizen:


You do have a point, though.

But are you expecting the whole Barcelona midfield (past and present) to inevitably turn prime Mourinho as managers, since thy are all deft at dictating tempo?

Busquets, Iniesta, Xavi and Mascherano are my picks.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:04pm On Jul 12, 2020
TheLoneCitizen:


You do have a point, though.

But are you expecting the whole Barcelona midfield (past and present) to inevitably turn prime Mourinho as managers, since thy are all deft at dictating tempo?

Just like Ancelotti, Rijkaard, Gullit and Donadoni became good coaches from AC Milan Sacci's side.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:05pm On Jul 12, 2020
Just finished watching the final 45 of Zaragoza and Real Oviedo and mehn what a game. James Igbekeme is injured so he was not listed for the game.
The English Championship isn't the only super competitive second tier in Europe. The Spanish Segunda got it also including some entertainment and highly technically proficient football.

Igbekeme's Zaragoza lost 4-2 at home to a side battling to stay above relegation waters. The other day, Nwakali's Huesca fell to last placed Racing Santander. Such is the competitiveness and excitement of the Segunda.
This means with two games to go, Nwakali's Huesca still sit in 2nd place (one of the two automatic promotion spots). Cadiz in 1st has already confirmed their automatic promotion to La Liga.

Question is who joins them next in the other automatic slot and through the playoffs slot.


Zaragoza go away to Albacete in their next game. Huesca hosts Numancia next.

Almeria has a game in hand and will play Rayo Vallecano Monday.

Time will tell if Nwakali's Huesca hangs on to grab the other automatic slot. After the 2nd place slot is sorted, the playoffs between 3rd to 6th will take place to reveal the third team that will be promoted. Hopefully, Igbekeme's Zaragoza makes it through the playoffs coz I don't see how they will grab the second automatic slot anymore.

But yeah... In time we will know for sure.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 11:06pm On Jul 12, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
Fourth spot is way out of their reach. The confirmed Top 4 will be Juve, Atalanta, Inter and Lazio in no particular order (ofcos I expect Juve will be Champs eventually).

Coppa Italia title has taken them into the Europa? But 5th and 6th in Serie A are also guaranteed Europa spots. Didn't even think of the Coppa Italia title.

Napoli playing 2-2 now anyway. Milan had a penalty. They create chances aplenty and attack so well. Finishing up chances is their bane. I admit they have been so good and consistent since the restart. Their only blip was the loss to Atalanta and even that game saw them lose b'cos they couldn't take their numerous chances. Plus Atalanta are ruthless with their own chances.



Napoli had two disallowed goals against Atalanta so it was an unfortunate result.

My awe at this team is the way they still performing without their star striker, Milik.

This team will comfortably defeat any team in the EPL except Manchester City. Yet Osimhen wants to toss such guaranteed opportunity of scoring 20+ goals every year to go play with Mustafi and David Luiz. Man!

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