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Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by ATAKAM: 9:02am On Jul 13, 2020 |
who are the nigerians.....if british that colonized us can do this then we are finished as a country |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by steeltrust: 9:07am On Jul 13, 2020 |
YorubaKinging:OGA shut up it ll end |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by Unsad(m): 9:07am On Jul 13, 2020 |
davodyguy: You get it.. |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by STENON(f): 9:10am On Jul 13, 2020 |
davodyguy:... which is one thing that is against the UK 2020 coronavirus law, Nobody must cash in from this pandemic ...Profiteering from coronavirus is very ILLEGAL in all countries, except Nigeria 1 Like |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by Wons(m): 9:14am On Jul 13, 2020 |
Don't forget that this administration took its time to travel around the world in its first tenure. Yet we r being fu*ked by every available d**k. |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by mmsen: 9:16am On Jul 13, 2020 |
STENON: Other countries have more than one evacuation flight and charge similar amounts (if not more). 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by davodyguy: 9:16am On Jul 13, 2020 |
STENON: Corruption is so endemic in this country |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by valentineuwakwe(m): 9:25am On Jul 13, 2020 |
at the end ...nothing will come forth, no be country wey i know..instead we will be begging them. 1 Like |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by isaacprinz(m): 9:26am On Jul 13, 2020 |
STENON:I smell nepotism and unpatriotic mindset in your post, listen to yourself so air peace uses urine as air fuel abi 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by STENON(f): 9:29am On Jul 13, 2020 |
isaacprinz:What are we saying and what are you saying ? |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by MPESA(m): 9:43am On Jul 13, 2020 |
STENON: JESUS, did we read the same article or did Nairaland showed me another. |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by Osker: 9:44am On Jul 13, 2020 |
There will always be news like this. The whole country has been treated unfairly. What should we do? |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by STENON(f): 9:49am On Jul 13, 2020 |
MPESA:JESUS was not mentioned in the article |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by Kingstanding: 9:50am On Jul 13, 2020 |
Lincoln275:Useless government na only mouth den get. |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by MPESA(m): 9:55am On Jul 13, 2020 |
davodyguy: What are you saying? , ET,Ethiopian Airlines cost Nigeria's $2500 while Air peace is charged $1500 from the same Canada to Nigeria.... So how does Air Peace charged higher...... From East Africans , Kenya and Uganda , Air Peace charging $700 while Emirates charged $800+ 1 Like |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by MPESA(m): 9:57am On Jul 13, 2020 |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by MPESA(m): 10:07am On Jul 13, 2020 |
STENON: This is not true, Air peace has been to both Canada and USA before on there own , in fact more than 19 times to USA.... For Evacuation they charges cheaper compare to other airlines... To evacuate Nigeria's in Canada, Air peace charged $1500 and Ethiopia Air charged $2500 and Canadians Government opt for Ethiopia Air for them to cash out. Mind you in East Africa such as Uganda and Kenya Air Peace charges $700 while Emirates charged $800+ 1 Like |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by Ebukax(f): 10:29am On Jul 13, 2020 |
Ipromote:You are a born foo.l Bitter soul |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by Zooposki(f): 10:34am On Jul 13, 2020 |
davodyguy: Air peace is cheaper. Stop lying. Make e jealousy no wound you. Mumu. |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by abnot: 10:57am On Jul 13, 2020 |
STENON: Do not be quick to throw blames here and there. This is one of the things colonialism did to many Africans. It made them think the white man was always right and the black man was always wrong and that is what you seem to be exhibiting. The Nigerian government over the years has also exhibited this behaviour but it is now becoming embarrassing to even the government after what happened with the Canadian Government and now the UK Government. Air peace charged Nigerians $700 for the trip from London to Abuja and LAgos. In my life I have never paid less than $1000 to BA for any trip even though they deploy their oldest aircrafts on the Nigerian routes. Let me take you back to the beginning of this whole lockdown. BA evacuated 2,789 of its citizens from Nigeria (Abuja and Lagos) on about 12 fights. The Nigerian high commission approached them to use the opportunity to bring Nigerians as opposed to flying empty but they dragged their feet and the only flight in which they conveyed Nigerians was a disaster. The passengers paid over $1000 to be taken to Abuja to be quarantined and BA dumped them at the tarmac in Lagos for about 5 hours until airpeace conveyed them from Lagos to Abuja to be quarantined. Nigerian government decided to make an arrangement with Airpeace which successfully carried out the flight on June 28 with 317 passenger from London to Abuja and Lagos. Most of the passengers were satisfied and when the Nigerian High commission arranged a second airpeace flight tickets sold out within one day. The UK officials decided to withdraw the earlier approved permit for this second flight and asked the Nigerian government to use a British Registered airline for the flight. The implication of this is that whatever revenue the flight will generate will go to the British airline and not the Nigerian one. Isn't that a humiliation ? And you are here justifying their actions. It is painful seeing how some Nigerians still think and behave like slaves justifying every action of the slave master. Air peace has a fleet of about 10 boeing 737s (excluding the embraers and 777s) and they have a maintenance contract with a British MRO for A, B, C and D checks. Each time they are going to UK for C checks they get their landing permits expressly approved because they are coming with £500,000 - £600,000 to pay the british company. Now that the trip involves revenue going to them the british government comes up with stories such as "the airline this the airline that". If its by that they should also stop airpeace from using their MRO facilities. BA operated 12 or more flights to Nigeria during the lockdown. Virgin atlantic also operated some flights. But airpeace only operated one and they are frowning. Airline Operators of Nigeria have always maintained that the BASAs and the SAATM Nigeria signed to are a fraud against Nigeria. These foreign airlines monopolise the market and jack up the price to the point that travelling is still seen as a luxury among many Nigerians. Africans should wake up. The average white man does not like the average black man and will never want anything about the african world to succeed. Emirates airline have been operating commercial flights to Nigeria during the lockdown under the name of evacuation/repatriation flights . There ads are everywhere on wakanow and Instagram pages of other travel agencies. 4 Likes |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by STENON(f): 10:59am On Jul 13, 2020 |
abnot:That was all in the middle of Coronavirus pandemic. The pandemic is over, all other countries have opened their borders and eased lockdown ... so what's stopping Nigerian Government from doing same?? |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by Agugbadin: 11:03am On Jul 13, 2020 |
Covid19 trend in Nigeria is not flattened yet, this may be their reason for excluding Naija from entering into their country until they see a downward trend in Nigeria. |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by STENON(f): 11:08am On Jul 13, 2020 |
abnot:All those have been operating International flight before the lockdown. Instead of you to face your FG who has a misplaced priorities since all these past years, you are here quoting my comment!! KLM is for France, Emirates for UAE, Virgin and BA for UK, etc. Mention one international airline that you know from Nigeria? So because of pandemic now, they are pretending to be nice... This is a wake up call for Nigerian Government to also improve the aviation sector as other countries have done. |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by King44(m): 11:09am On Jul 13, 2020 |
davodyguy:it is better this way... Than having other carriers cashing out on us with far less treatments. Why are you so disgruntled? |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by helpfindbolu: 11:15am On Jul 13, 2020 |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by WelcomeToBiafra: 11:26am On Jul 13, 2020 |
Say no the zoo.
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Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by WelcomeToBiafra: 11:34am On Jul 13, 2020 |
Kingpele:Nigeria was created by criminals you know how the creation of criminals looks like.
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Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by abnot: 12:07pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
STENON: KLM is a private company registered in the Netherlands. Virgin is a one man business owned by Richard branson just like arik is owned by an individual. BA is owned by IAG group. Emirates is a family business. Arik and airpeace are private businesses from Nigeria. In aviation once your government recognises you as a flag carrier (kindly note the difference between a flag carrier and national carrier is that a national carrier has government ownership while flag carrier is privately owned). All these airlines you have listed out are privately owned. There is a clause for diplomatic landing permit which involves the governments of both countries. Nigeria has a BASA agreement with UK signed in 2011 allowing UK registered airlines to operate a maximum of 21 weekly flights to Nigeria and also allowing Nigerian registered airlines operating 21 weekly flights to UK. In this case the Nigerian government designated Airpeace to carry out this flight which is allowed under BASA. Nigerian aviation sector is not strong on the international scene and it is because of treatments like this they receive on the international arena with it's government failing to stand by them. A lot of aviation professionals have been complaining over the years that the Nigerian government officials are signing unfavourable pacts with these countries at the detriment of Nigerian aviation sector but the government did nothing until Hadi sirika became a full minister in 2019 and began to demand equal rights. I'll give you an example. Last time I went to Ethiopia I flew there from Kenya on Kenya airways. The flight was very late in the night at 11:55 pm. I chatted briefly with one of the Kenya airways officials who told me that Ethiopia gave them a slot that late to keep away as many passengers from Kenya airways because of the unfavourable time slot. When I got to Ethiopia I noticed how their government makes things difficult for non Ethiopians. When you try to rent a house you pay more if you are not a citizen. At touristic sites you pay more if you are not a citizen. To own a business you have to get an Ethiopian citizen to own at least 50% of the business. But today Ethiopian airlines flies daily to Abuja, Lagos, Kano, Enugu/Port harcourt. They even wanted to handle all the charter flights for Nigeria. On my second trip to Ethiopia I paid $908 from Lagos to Addis Ababa and back (5 hour flight). From Addis Ababa to Newark and back I paid $720 (14 hour flight). Do you think they will want any Nigerian airline to grow ? Last year foreign airlines repatriated about $3 bn from Nigeria from ticket sales. If Nigerian government does not stand up to protect its airlines like these countries do the Nigerian aviation sector will remain at its infant stage. The Air Nigeria they are trying to setup will also die a natural death under the current BASAs. |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by abnot: 12:12pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
STENON: I cant tell if all countries have opened their borders. These countries was their airlines to make money and that's what it is all about. If Air peace approaches UAE to say they want to resume their operations to UAE I'm sure UAE will tell them their borders are still closed due to the pandemic. But emirates on its part has been operating flights into Nigeria in connivance with Nigerian aviation officials. Covid 19 presents an opportunity for the Nigerian government to re-negotiate the multiple entry points and multiple flights these carriers enjoy in Nigeria. 2 Likes |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by isaacprinz(m): 12:54pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
STENON:If you don't comprehend and also understand my point then I can't help you. |
Re: FG To Review Air Agreements With UK, Others Over 'Unacceptable Treatments' by STENON(f): 1:15pm On Jul 13, 2020 |
abnot:Right before the lockdown, they have not done anything worthy of praise pertaining to aviation sector. You can agree with me that this is not the right time for them to demand equal right. Assuming this happened last year before the pandemic, I would have gladly supported their view. These developed countries are stylishly fighting for their right so that international students and stranded Nigerans can go back home whichever way they desire before they overtstay their visa as July 31st is the last chance for them. Some came with return ticket, some are unemployed and can't afford that money, some can only afford a stop over flight. Some people were not lucky to get the airpeace ticket that was sold out within a day. FG should open the airport before starting a fresh case with airpeace and International airlines. |
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