Tobex4realTobex234:
I don't know if nairaland will ban me from posting links. The response was copied from [url]https://www.quora.com/How-is-life-like-for-Nigerians-living-in-Canada [/url]

Tobex4realTobex234:
I don't know if nairaland will ban me from posting links. The response was copied from [url]https://www.quora.com/How-is-life-like-for-Nigerians-living-in-Canada [/url]

ahiboilandgas:
very true ...when i started my cement distribution business i forcast that i would have 20 branches after studing several business like kfc with low margins but several units to make good inflow....i ran into problems from the pioneer branch cos of theft of sale proceeds by sale boy....he intentional damage bags so as to sell in mudus , [b]he also collect stock outside and sell in my ware house...[/b]the place was generating a net of 180 k monthly and i have capacity to open 19 more ...i was paying salary of 30k and commission....but the Nigerian human resource is an impossible being

Cyberknight:


Interesting link.
Anyone who is reasonably well-informed/travelled knows/should know this.
Integrating into a foreign country especially when you come from a developing one, is not easy.
The Canadian immigration scheme is basically meant to benefit the country by getting at least 2 generations of highly motivated people to contribute to their economy.

They select only the skilled, but they also know that some of them will end up filling unskilled positions native-born do not want, either temporarily as they work their way up, or permanently. This is reality.

They bank on the fact that immigrants are motivated (when you think of what you left behind in India, Nigeria, Bangladesh or whichever place you come from, that drives you to work hard), and also pass that motivation on to the second generation, so at least the Canadian economy is assured of enough doctors, engineers, IT staff etc, for decades to come (immigrants drive their children to read professional courses and related fields).

All in all, the Canadian immigration scheme is working as it's supposed to work.

DexterousOne:


Yea

It is

I'm actually running the program on the side


Once it's all set

I'm out


I've had enough of the madness

I cant in good faith raise my kids in a country like this

But like I say
To each one his own

NL1960:


This is another big issue. Most of these sales people collect stock from outside and sell in the shop and when you come, they will say no sales and at month end, they expect salary to be paid to them.

Cyberknight:


I don't discourage people who want out.
I see clearly that Nigeria is not livable for very many people.

ojesymsym:
When I gave this a though recently, I realized that our health care and education, especially university education is subsidized compared to many of the countries we admire. No students loan here.
I read one guy's comment that he spent one night in a US hospital (probably didn't have health insurance, don't know) and spent an equivalent of almost 3million Nigerian naira.
When God puts on his prayer request session, the ones from Nigeria are likely to be full of negativity.

CsRockefeller:
The other day I was telling someone that corruption and fraud especially is ingrained in every Nigerian DNA. What few do is to fight that inbuilt trait, the remaining just live it out.

We are such a dishonest people. In an attempt to mask our evil acts we have legalized fraud and corruption into different forms.

A Nigerian doesn't even trust his fellow citizen so why should a foreigner do? Look at how high we build our fences like we are guarding against wild animals.

CsRockefeller:
The other day I was telling someone that corruption and fraud especially is ingrained in every Nigerian DNA. What few do is to fight that inbuilt trait, the remaining just live it out.

We are such a dishonest people. In an attempt to mask our evil acts we have legalized fraud and corruption into different forms.

A Nigerian doesn't even trust his fellow citizen so why should a foreigner do? Look at how high we build our fences like we are guarding against wild animals.

emmanuelewumi:



You now see the reason why busy executives are okay with portfolio Investments that will conveniently give them between 15% to 20% per annum and they will be okay on the long run

DexterousOne:

Healthcare and education is also subsidized in most of Europe


Tertiary education in germany for example is free for international students in germany (well most of the programs)

How do you think it will be for the local students


For France

The annual school fees in the uni is about €300 for public unis
That's applicable to foreigners too.


UK has NHS
Even tho tuition fees na die

It's the USA (another agbaya country) that has a wack health care system and a crininal tertiary education system


Just setting the records straight sha

AnthonyAnderson:


Very brilliant.

Ordinary street protests against govt policy you wil see them chicken out. They always love to run down the country at the slightest opportunity. It is a thing of pride.

During elections they wont even vote but tell you who will win and lose hence they do not need to come out to vote....

NL1960:


This is another big issue. Most of these sales people collect stock from outside and sell in the shop and when you come, they will say no sales and at month end, they expect salary to be paid to them.

ahiboilandgas:
sahad store lost 250m naira to fraudstars called staffs in the last audit ...staff plan with fake customers to loot items and pay for cheap ones are exit the super markets ,the ones in textile section collect goods and sell personally in the supermarkets or replaced sold items while pocketing the profits

Cyberknight:

Precisely.
The US is capitalism unbridled.
Their so-called "pull yourself up" thinking is obviously wrongheaded, given that this is the 21st century, not the 18th century when one could make something of themselves by dint of hard work alone.

Nowadays, everyone knows that the government has an input to make into the lives of those not born into wealth in order to level things up.

DexterousOne:

Healthcare and education is also subsidized in most of Europe


Tertiary education in germany for example is free for international students in germany (well most of the programs)

How do you think it will be for the local students


For France

The annual school fees in the uni is about €300 for public unis
That's applicable to foreigners too.


UK has NHS
Even tho tuition fees na die

It's the USA (another agbaya country) that has a wack health care system and a crininal tertiary education system


Just setting the records straight sha

DexterousOne:



Chineke nna

DexterousOne:


That's why I was and still am
A big big fan of Bernie Sanders

ultron12345:


Let's also mention the high taxes charged in those countries which fund those free public services. How many Nigerians pay taxes? The few that pay, what percentage do they pay?

Anyone can shout "Nigerians pay tax" sha, but statistics don't lie.

Nigeria has one of the lowest tax-to-gdp ratios in the world at 4-5%, France is at 48%, Germany is 44.5%. Even our neighbors with similar socioeconomic demographics charge more, Benin is at 15.4%, Cameroon is at 18.2%, Ghana is at 20%, Togo is 15.5%.

VAT in Nigeria is one of the lowest in the world, it has been 5%, only recently went up to 7.5% for some goods. VAT in UK and France are 20%. VAT is 12.5% in Ghana, 19.25% in Cameroon, 19% in Niger, 18% in Benin, 18% in Chad.

The government has historically not been interested in tax revenue because it has had oil money to steal and otherwise squander.
That's why there have been a lot of subsidies in Nigeria, the government doesn't know what to do with money.

However, people in these countries you mentioned are not dutiful and enthusiastic taxpayers either, the rate of income tax avoidance and so forth is probably just as high among the self-employed as it is here.

ultron12345:


Let's also mention the high taxes charged in those countries which fund those free public services. How many Nigerians pay taxes? The few that pay, what percentage do they pay?

Anyone can shout "Nigerians pay tax" sha, but statistics don't lie.

Nigeria has one of the lowest tax-to-gdp ratios in the world at 4-5%, France is at 48%, Germany is 44.5%. Even our neighbors with similar socioeconomic demographics charge more, Benin is at 15.4%, Cameroon is at 18.2%, Ghana is at 20%, Togo is 15.5%.

VAT in Nigeria is one of the lowest in the world, it has been 5%, only recently went up to 7.5% for some goods. VAT in UK and France are 20%. VAT is 12.5% in Ghana, 19.25% in Cameroon, 19% in Niger, 18% in Benin, 18% in Chad.

Cyberknight:


The most ironic thing is that Sanders' is not advocating anything fundamentally different from what other, also rich and thriving European economies are already doing.

America's refusal to tax its people properly to pay for a reasonably comprehensive welfare state is strangely out of tune with the rest of the developed world. Remember when Warren Buffett pointed out that he pays a lower tax rate than his secretary because his money is working for him while she is working for hers.

ahiboilandgas:
very true ...when i started my cement distribution business i forcast that i would have 20 branches after studing several business like kfc with low margins but several units to make good inflow....i ran into problems from the pioneer branch cos of theft of sale proceeds by sale boy....he intentional damage bags so as to sell in mudus , he also collect stock outside and sell in my ware house...the place was generating a net of 180 k monthly and i have capacity to open 19 more ...i was paying salary of 30k and commission....but the Nigerian human resource is an impossible being

ultron12345:


Let's also mention the high taxes charged in those countries which fund those free public services. How many Nigerians pay taxes? The few that pay, what percentage do they pay?

Anyone can shout "Nigerians pay tax" sha, but statistics don't lie.

Nigeria has one of the lowest tax-to-gdp ratios in the world at 4-5%, France is at 48%, Germany is 44.5%. Even our neighbors with similar socioeconomic demographics collect more, Benin is at 15.4%, Cameroon is at 18.2%, Ghana is at 20%, Togo is 15.5%.

VAT in Nigeria is one of the lowest in the world, it has been 5%, only recently went up to 7.5% for some goods. VAT in UK and France are 20%. VAT is 12.5% in Ghana, 19.25% in Cameroon, 19% in Niger, 18% in Benin, 18% in Chad.

Cyberknight:


The most ironic thing is that Sanders' is not advocating anything fundamentally different from what other, also rich and thriving European economies are already doing.

America's refusal to tax its people properly to pay for a reasonably comprehensive welfare state is strangely out of tune with the rest of the developed world. Remember when Warren Buffett pointed out that he pays a lower tax rate than his secretary because his money is working for him while she is working for hers.

ahiboilandgas:
one idoit cleaner hid inside the toilets and was closed in the mall ,in the night he stole expensive watches ,perfumes,lace material,..eat a lot of chocolates and milk ...he packaged everthing inside a huge cartoon in the cartoon sections for disposal...when the people buying empty cartoon came they saw one filled with goods ..so they called the manger thinking it was a consumer that forget .....a trap was set for the idoit and was caught ....a long serving staff that the owner dash a small house after serving 15 years

DexterousOne:


This one is rampant in Nigeria


Employees conniving to steal from the business


It's a very tough place out there

One nairaland member posted on front page months ago

How his colleagues are running his madam business down

And that she is a nice person and all

And does not know what he/she can do

Whether he /she should report and all that

The comments that followed were more shameful than even the opening post

Some of us here may have seen the post as at when it came out

arduino:

I can't forget what those wicked sales reps and others did to my mum's business. She was practically paying shop rent for them. The collect stocks from outside and sell theirs first. That aside asset stripping of the business and theft while stocking the personal kitchen from stolen goods from the shop.
The worst part was that she feeds those evil guys and ladies two sumptuous meals daily to keep the business running.
We have people without conscience roaming the streets under the guise of unemployment looking for who to exploit.

Cyberknight:


The most ironic thing is that Sanders' is not advocating anything fundamentally different from what other, also rich and thriving European economies are already doing.

America's refusal to tax its people properly to pay for a reasonably comprehensive welfare state is strangely out of tune with the rest of the developed world. Remember when Warren Buffett pointed out that he pays a lower tax rate than his secretary because his money is working for him while she is working for hers.

Nezzjnr:

I saw that thread and that discouraged me from doing any business in Nigeria

I'll just stick to investment alone