donjazet:


This same BS line about everybody being a "carry along" in Barça. At one point or another, Messi, Pedro, Sanchez, xavi, fabregas, Iniesta, pique, mascherano, Sergio etc have all been called "carry along" players or players enabled by the system.
The question continues to be; if all these players are carry along players, then who constitutes the system being played?

If you can call Sergio busquets who has been a crucial and main stay player for Barça for more than 14 years a "carry along" player, then who did the so called carrying along?

hensben:
Why did you edit my post. Both players are systematic type. You mentioning them with Alonso and Pirlo is insulting. Yes I said that because of how Sarri used him. Sarri and pep are in same school of thought when it comes to tactics.

airmark:
Finally, they've found larride.

izzou:
I open tonight's match in the name of the Father, the Son and the Spirit.

Skimpledawg:

Tomori would definitely come on for Rudiger later part of the game. We need his pace and sharpness.

If Ruben is back with his sharpness, he would be very handy in the opponents box.

donjazet:


This same BS line about everybody being a "carry along" in Barça. At one point or another, Messi, Pedro, Sanchez, xavi, fabregas, Iniesta, pique, mascherano, Sergio etc have all been called "carry along" players or players enabled by the system.
The question continues to be; if all these players are carry along players, then who constitutes the system being played?

If you can call Sergio busquets who has been a crucial and main stay player for Barça for more than 14 years a "carry along" player, then who did the so called carrying along?

donjazet:

Correct @ the bolded. Is pep not a good manager? If pep recognizes that jorginho can be a very vital part of his team, does this not speak well for the player?

ShitStain:


Yes

BlueRayDick:


At what point was messi Carried along in his almost 15 years of first team football at Barca?

donjazet:


Ibime, enough with the jorginho slander.
It's difficult seeing you diss a player like an unseasoned pundit just because of your personal dislike for the player.

There are very few deep playing midfielders like Toni kroos or Xabi who are finely tuned both defensively and offensively.
Nobody here ever taught of jorginho as a box to box midfielder. Even when he was at Italy, he was known for his passing. He broke records for his passes. He is a player who is attuned to a particular system.

Jorginho's role in a team is as a regista of which there are very few like Sergio busquet, rodri, Pirlo etc.

When signing jorginho, we knew we would have to pair him with hard working box to box midfielders like kante and Barkley to complement his poor work rate.

Look at other regista's in football, Sergio busquet has been very vital to Barça in the last 10 years because he perfectly suits their pattern and philosophy, but if he was brought into a kloop team that is purely a high intensity and high energy football or even our team, watch how he would flop because the system doesn't match his attributes.
But if this same busquet went to mancity today, watch him easily slot in the way rodri has slotted in easily.

Don't forget that mancity were very close to signing him before we snatched the deal from them after signing sarri because we realized how important he was to "sarriball" which was the project the club had embarked upon at that time which we later broke away from.

Today, nobody in mancity expects rodri to be creative or defensive, his primary role is simply to recycle possession with lateral and diagonal passes, connecting the defense to the attack via passes and ensuring safe transitioning. This is simply his work.

Jorginho has simply become a victim of Chelsea's managerial instability. Sarriball was the only reason we signed him and now he is stuck with a manager that doesn't need his skill set since he subscribes to a different philosophy of football. This doesn't mean he is a rubbish player like you would like everyone to believe.

These were our immediate reactions here when he was signed.

Skimpledawg:

Na to dey read some posts here do like say person no see am

BlueRayDick:


Baba some posts no just dey easy to ignore. U go just wan know wetin dey the mind of the poster when he was making the post

hensben:
Why did you edit my post. Both players are systematic type. You mentioning them with Alonso and Pirlo is insulting. Yes I said that because of how Sarri used him. Sarri and pep are in same school of thought when it comes to tactics.

hensben:
Yes jorginho will succeed with pep but then again pep need a very quality players to achieve, so jorginho and his kind are just there to hold POSSESSION.