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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 4:39pm On Jul 15, 2020
I see the GODs are teaming up once more
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 4:40pm On Jul 15, 2020
Maximus69:


GRIMMJOE lacks dignity! smiley
So tell me, what's the dignity in shaving a woman's vagina, military man.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rabzy: 5:24pm On Jul 15, 2020
DappaD:

Use your chest and mention him please grin
If you're referring to rabzy, for the fact that he didn't speak the JW language, he can't be our brother wink

Dappad...I don't want to pursue this discussion with you just for this same reason...go and check my posts on nairaland...dig a bit back..I have been more active in the sports space.
you talked about pure language..it is the whole body of truth that we speak and live by. On a faceless forum don't be so gung-ho on who someone is...you can't be absolutely sure
I joined this conversation asking maximus to use milder language...thats all...and then questions of who I am came in...the billions of unrighteous do not need to support the anointed brothers because they don't know their right from left and they would have the opportunity to learn and demonstrate their obedience during the millennial reign of Christ...so all of these people would be resurrected by Jehovah...that is the truth...and those were my comments. I wonder what language you want me to speak...maybe I should send you a zoom invite to see who the Christian life and preaching overseer is
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rabzy: 5:26pm On Jul 15, 2020
TATIME:


Your aggression will make anyone insult you, you are not dealing with people on handcuffs so try to respect people and they will sincerely reciprocate.
For instance, Rozz got harsh words from Maximus several times but due to her sincerity he fell for her and started calling her "Sugar Baby"
It's the way you speak to people that will determine how they will respond to you. You once said "slap a Christian and see what they will do".
Of course you don't understand what Jesus meant, a slap from a man like you wasn't meant to harm you but to humiliate or belittle you, so Jesus simply means Christians shouldn't expect people to respect them for upholding the truth! smiley smiley smiley



When he was reviled he didn't retaliate.1peter 2:23

Especially to be applied during the ministry regardless of the form of ministry
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 6:09pm On Jul 15, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
But that's what the research was saying, people easily suspects Atheist as people who just want to live an immoral life without consequence.

But Atheism still remain a disbelieve in all know gods, simple as that.

That man keep roping himself. The moment he decided to look for materials that portray ATHEIST too as evil means he has SUCCUMBED to what he was calling us LIARS upon. Now he is trying to equalize the scores grin grin grin grin. Yet look at the two post he cited.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 6:11pm On Jul 15, 2020
TATIME:


But Achorladey is a disguised atheist! undecided undecided undecided

Even GRIMMJOE is aware of the fact, so GRIMMJOE is asking in behalf of all the Freethinkers including those claiming believers but deep down in their hearts, they don't think God exists!



Is easy to call someone DISGUISE ATHEIST but you don't want to see yourself as a FREETHINKER yet you have FREEWILL. shocked shocked shocked

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rabzy: 6:17pm On Jul 15, 2020
achorladey:



Is easy to call someone DISGUISE ATHEIST but you don't want to see yourself as a FREETHINKER yet you have FREEWILL. shocked shocked shocked

Two different things...everyone has freewill, it is a God given ability..freethinker is how some people have been expressing their freewill and may mean different things to different people
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 6:18pm On Jul 15, 2020
GRIMMJOE:
Orderly indeed.

Just some page back DappaD was having a misunderstanding with another Jehovah's witness.

Janosky disagreed with maximus69 stand on pedophilie.

They wont recognize the misunderstanding because they tend to get lost in discussion.

They will listen to rabzy very soon. He has been calling them to order but the FACELESS FORUM mentality never wear off for their eyes. The reason they are still using labels and tags everywhere. That is what rabzy is trying to make them realize even using the PURE LANGUAGE to tell them yet they are unable to understand what they parrot every now and then. See how they shut him down by saying he is not part of them.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 6:20pm On Jul 15, 2020
No but atheist believe in god's-they rely on leadership, an atheist couldn't make his way through life without somebody telling them what to do-the world follows after it's own kind-it idolises itself-Atheist worship people in music, movie's...Etc...
GRIMMJOE:
Atheist are people who don't believe in a god, I sincerely do not see why they need a president.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 6:24pm On Jul 15, 2020
rabzy:


Two different things...everyone has freewill, it is a God given ability..freethinker is how some people have been expressing their freewill and may mean different things to different people

The bold is well placed and in essence someone that believes he has freewill should readily agree he is a freethinker.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rabzy: 6:31pm On Jul 15, 2020
achorladey:


The bold is well placed and in essence someone that believes he has freewill should readily agree he is a freethinker.






Freethinker may have political or religious connotations. So depending on what context of freethinking a person is talking of..I have freewill but I may agree that I am a freethinker...so context and definition matters

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 6:33pm On Jul 15, 2020
That's true-this is why we line everything up with the Word of God-everything outside that-doesn't exist. it's either a lie or a scam ready for the ripping....
GRIMMJOE:
What are you talking about, a lot of Christians don't believe a god exist, they are just doing it for formality sake, most don't even read their Bible, while some are using it as an opportunity to scam others.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 6:38pm On Jul 15, 2020
rabzy:


Dappad...I don't want to pursue this discussion with you just for this same reason...go and check my posts on nairaland...dig a bit back..I have been more active in the sports space.
you talked about pure language..it is the whole body of truth that we speak and live by. On a faceless forum don't be so gung-ho on who someone is...you can't be absolutely sure
I joined this conversation asking maximus to use milder language...thats all...and then questions of who I am came in...the billions of unrighteous do not need to support the anointed brothers because they don't know their right from left and they would have the opportunity to learn and demonstrate their obedience during the millennial reign of Christ...so all of these people would be resurrected by Jehovah...that is the truth...and those were my comments. I wonder what language you want me to speak...maybe I should send you a zoom invite to see who the Christian life and preaching overseer is
I'm watching match now sir I can't read all of these smiley
All I'm saying is that a JW will NEVER send mixed signals when communicating to others that he's a Witness. If you're truly our brother then you should be able to make it known openly, even to others on this thread. smiley

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 7:17pm On Jul 15, 2020
rabzy:


Freethinker may have political or religious connotations. So depending on what context of freethinking a person is talking of..I have freewill but I may agree that I am a freethinker...so context and definition matters

Religious connotations States you have freewill religious connotations States in essence you have ability to FREETHINK. Someone that has ability to freethink is seen as a freethinker

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:20pm On Jul 15, 2020
achorladey:


That man keep roping himself. The moment he decided to look for materials that portray ATHEIST too as evil means he has SUCCUMBED to what he was calling us LIARS upon. Now he is trying to equalize the scores grin grin grin grin. Yet look at the two post he cited.
He's looking for where to pitch his tent.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:23pm On Jul 15, 2020
brocab:
No but atheist believe in god's-they rely on leadership, an atheist couldn't make his way through life without somebody telling them what to do-the world follows after it's own kind-it idolises itself-Atheist worship people in music, movie's...Etc...

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:29pm On Jul 15, 2020
brocab:
No but atheist believe in god's-they rely on leadership, an atheist couldn't make his way through life without somebody telling them what to do-the world follows after it's own kind-it idolises itself-Atheist worship people in music, movie's...Etc...
Atheist don't worship any one, it simply mean a disbelief in all know gods, anything you add on it is simply your own misinterpretation.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rabzy: 7:31pm On Jul 15, 2020
DappaD:

I'm watching match now sir I can't read all of these smiley
All I'm saying is that a JW will NEVER send mixed signals when communicating to others that he's a Witness. If you're truly our brother then you should be able to make it known openly, even to others on this thread. smiley

I never sent any mixed messages..sometimes you don't just want to barge into an ongoing discussion on any side..and often some people are not ready to listen to whatever you have to say, once they know your affiliations due to prejudice and bias. so sometimes you may choose not to announce who you are so that they can get a chance to listen before they close up tight
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rabzy: 7:32pm On Jul 15, 2020
achorladey:


Religious connotations States you have freewill religious connotations States in essence you have ability to FREETHINK. Someone that has ability to freethink is seen as a freethinker

So what would you define as freethink or freethinker
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 7:33pm On Jul 15, 2020
brocab:
That's true-this is why we line everything up with the Word of God-everything outside that-doesn't exist. it's either a lie or a scam ready for the ripping....
Meaning...
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 7:34pm On Jul 15, 2020
rabzy:


I never sent any mixed messages. .sometimes you don't just want to barge into an ongoing discussion on any side..and often some people are not ready to listen to whatever you have to say, once they know your affiliations due to prejudice and bias. so sometimes you may choose not to announce who you are so that they can get a chance to listen before they close up tight
You did initially though but it's all good.
This is an online forum sir. Of course one would occasionally barge into ongoing discussions
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 7:39pm On Jul 15, 2020
rabzy:


I never sent any mixed messages..sometimes you don't just want to barge into an ongoing discussion on any side..and often some people are not ready to listen to whatever you have to say, once they know your affiliations due to prejudice and bias. so sometimes you may choose not to announce who you are so that they can get a chance to listen before they close up tight
I totally understand.
But on that note, I think it should be necessary that one should know where someone is coming from, don't you agree?
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 7:54pm On Jul 15, 2020
Well -it's simple to find out anything-we need the evidence to prove it exist,, and anybody that claims to be somebody-need the evidence to prove he/she isn't talking through their backsides..To retrieve any information these day's comes from books we call a manual..
GRIMMJOE:
Meaning...
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 8:01pm On Jul 15, 2020
Atheist do-it's either music, or an actor they glorify-it could be sports, you may even glorify your girl/boyfriend telling them how much you love them-religion doesn't mean it's only biblical-religion means believing in something...It's common sense...
GRIMMJOE:
Atheist don't worship any one, it simply mean a disbelief in all know gods, anything you add on it is simply your own misinterpretation.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 8:03pm On Jul 15, 2020
rabzy:


So what would you define as freethink or freethinker

1. person who forms opinions on the basis of reason, independent of authority or tradition, especially a person whose religious opinions differ from established belief.

2. person who forms his or her ideas and opinions independently of authority or accepted views, esp in matters of religion.

3. Definition of freethinker
: a person who thinks freely or independently : one who forms opinions on the basis of reason independently of authority
especially : one who rejects or is skeptical of religious dogma

4. person who has formed their opinions using reason and rational enquiry; somebody who has rejected dogma, especially with regard to religion.

5. Those who contend that reason can attain to a truth that has been contradicted, obscured, or distorted by the official doctrines of a religious body which lays claim to divine revelation and the consequent right to compel assent to its teachings.

6. In his 1957 essay, “The Value of Free Thought,” philosopher and freethinker Bertrand Russell wrote:

What makes a freethinker is not his beliefs but the way in which he holds them. If he holds them because his elders told him they were true when he was young, or if he holds them because if he did not he would be unhappy, his thought is not free; but if he holds them because, after careful thought he finds a balance of evidence in their favor, then his thought is free, however odd his conclusions may seem.

By this definition, a wide range of people have been freethinkers: not only atheists and agnostics but also deists, liberal religionists, religious innovators, and those who have challenged the predominant orthodoxies in every field of endeavor, from science to politics to the arts. That adds up to a lot of people. And what it tells us is that almost every great individual in history had to, in some way or another, think free. That’s what made such people stand out. That’s generally why they became famous in the first place.

Pick the one you like

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:04pm On Jul 15, 2020
brocab:
Well -it's simple to find out anything-we need the evidence to prove it exist,, and anybody that claims to be somebody-need the evidence to prove he/she isn't talking through their backsides..
I'm seriously not understanding you.

Are saying a god exist, and you can easily prove it.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:07pm On Jul 15, 2020
brocab:
Atheist do-it's either music, or an actor they glorify-it could be sports, you may even glorify your girl/boyfriend telling them how much you love them-religion doesn't mean it's only biblical-religion means believing in something...It's common sense...
I'm not an Atheist anyway.

But I understand it, ask me any question and I'm willing to educated you on what Atheism mean.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 8:13pm On Jul 15, 2020
Would it make a difference to you-It wouldn't matter what info I came up with to prove God exist--you just wouldn't believe it.. you can't even see yourself idolising worldly lust..
GRIMMJOE:
I'm seriously not understanding you.

Are saying a god exist, and you can easily prove it.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 8:17pm On Jul 15, 2020
atheism
/ˈeɪθɪɪz(ə)m/
Learn to pronounce
noun
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
Maybe this could help you?
GRIMMJOE:
I'm not an Atheist anyway.

But I understand it, ask me any question and I'm willing to educated you on what Atheism mean.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:30pm On Jul 15, 2020
brocab:
Would it make a difference to you-It wouldn't matter what info I came up with to prove God exist--you just wouldn't believe it.. you can't even see yourself idolising worldly lust..
To prove god exist should be easy, just like I can prove humans need to breath by telling you to hold your breath.

If a God exist anyone would be able to carry and repeat the prove, but 157 pages still struggling.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 8:31pm On Jul 15, 2020
brocab:
atheism
/ˈeɪθɪɪz(ə)m/
Learn to pronounce
noun
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
Maybe this could help you?
So what do you understand by it.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by RussellRutherfo: 9:23pm On Jul 15, 2020
Janosky:


Idiotic posts....
I will EXPOSE your wicked intention ,Johnw FRAUD and RussellRutherfo......

See the source of the FRAUD these clowns here FALSELY tag JWs.......


Watchtower&Bible Crap Society Circus � devotee.

You screenshot something that you claim is the source of the 50,000 abuses by JWs but cunningly gave us no link. Clown Exposer, where is the link of the purported source you discovered?!

I am very sure you saw several links on this JW cancer but you purposely ignored them all and screenshot something no one knows where you got them from. grin

Now, do you want me to help you with this delusionary "exposure" by you? We will even provide you videos of several Ex-JWs as regards this Child abuse cases and how the Society covers up many of these cases while these abused kids suffer emotional damage.

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