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Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by uracefriend(m): 8:35am On Jul 16, 2020 |
It wasn't stated in the Bible but I have wondered so many times if he did, considering that he worshipped other gods from his outlandish wives and concubines of a thousand. Who knows! Did he repent eventually? We know God spoke to him, blessed him and even manifested His glory through this king. What's your take? NB: Only Bible scholars and theologians should comment. It is a sensitive topic, and I don't want any jokes or unsavoury opinions on spiritual matters. @moderators |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by chatinent: 8:42am On Jul 16, 2020 |
Ask yourself: is it written in the bible that all righteous ones will go to heaven? That should be the basis for the argument. Earth is also a promise for righteous ones. |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:45am On Jul 16, 2020 |
Finally, someone Asks! No, he did not enter into God's Peaceful and Sweet Rest, like his father David! He butt himself out by his foolishness! |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:47am On Jul 16, 2020 |
chatinent: Eeeeh! You know what he means, no need to raise heaven! |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Righteousness89(m): 8:49am On Jul 16, 2020 |
If we are to go by the records in the Holy Bible, then he definitely didn't! Its also possible that he Repented. Because if you have a look at His End in 1Kings 11:41 And the rest of the acts of Solomon, and all that he did, and his wisdom, are they not written in the book of the acts of Solomon? The Bible did not give us the "Rest of his acts" So it's possible, Solomon Repented Befor he finally passed away. We will know better when we get to Heaven.. 5 Likes |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by uracefriend(m): 8:52am On Jul 16, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:thanks jare my brother. But what's your argument based on? Remember this Scripture: 1 Peter 3:18-19 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Nobody: 8:57am On Jul 16, 2020 |
uracefriend: why bother urself about a question only God knows the answer...we humans judge by appearance, wealth and a whole lot of yardstick that only matters in this world. Only God can tell the content of the heart which is what he use in judging us...if not Jesus won't say prostitutes will enter into God's kingdom and some so called God's people wont ...however, I feel Solomon's attitude of joining his idol worshipping wives to worship other gods may be a period of weakness. a man that has engaged God directly would have probably retraced his steps when his peaceful reign became threatened by Hadad the edomite, Rezon son of Eliada and Jeroboam 1 Like |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:57am On Jul 16, 2020 |
Righteousness89: It is possible but I do not think so, because, the way God left him eh, God was very very pained oh. Especially as God had lifted him so so much, eh, if you fall, you must fall Terribly. If it is not true, check Adam/Eve, Saul, even Pharoah, Hezekiah, I See Law in them all. Which is why David Clearly Said "There is nothing like when a Honourable Man Falls!" |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Nobody: 8:58am On Jul 16, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: how did u arrive at this fallacious conclusion 1 Like |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Righteousness89(m): 9:02am On Jul 16, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: Every man had His Personal dealings with God. No matter how angry God was with a man all through the Bible, once you show a sign of Remorse,Humility and Repentance He forgives instantly! Hezekiah had a good work with God and ended well from the Bible.. Saul refused to Repent and died.. Pharaoh's Chapter ended in the Red Sea.. 1 Like |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by internationalman(m): 9:07am On Jul 16, 2020 |
Ask white people they were the ones wrote the Bible.. Maybe they can also find a place to insert the fact in the Bible... In one verse they said God told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac his only son, in another verse they said Ishmael and Isaac both his sons were present at his burial |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by uracefriend(m): 9:14am On Jul 16, 2020 |
1StopRudeness:you still gave a succinct and worthy answer after first sermonizing us. We know about that. Just a topic for discourse where we can learn more from one another |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:16am On Jul 16, 2020 |
uracefriend: My argument is based on the Several Several Warnings his father David, Friend of God, Warned him Severally. He heard them, Thanks Be to God that he recorded them too and confirmed the authenticity of the David's Psalms and witnessed the Truth of them, but, he painfully departed on a Serious Further Search. But, alas, he found no other way, which was why he Painfully Wrote the Ecclesiastes, describing in detail the futility of his adventure. And he was the Best at it, for no one had the resources and power to engage in this quest as he did, yet he Failed, for he found no other way. And while I am thankful to God that Solomon resolved the end all pursuits (for me too, I was about embarking on such a foolishness, and Solomon was my map, when I saw that in every road there is to turn, there was failure there. Back to my statement) I am indeed grieved on his behalf and his father's behalf that, he had gone too far to return again, and he knew it! Which is why I am able to tell all these atheist, Thinkers and any person who cares to Listen, That There is no Other Way. All Roads Lead to a Fall From A Very High Cliff! My Authority, Solomon, he Checked Them All and He gave us his discoveries and his findings which Are Solidly True, even till Tomorrow! I think 1 Peter 3:18-19 is a separate and distinct issue. It can not be merged with the Solomon Issue you raised here |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:20am On Jul 16, 2020 |
1StopRudeness: Could you please speak a little more clearly, for I am struggling with various interpretations of your question, which I believe I have answered further up. |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by uracefriend(m): 9:26am On Jul 16, 2020 |
We know that the books of Proverbs, Ecclesiastes and Songs of Solomon were inspired by the Holy Ghost. Did he write them towards the end of his life or otherwise? What did the Bible say about his end? |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by chatinent: 9:43am On Jul 16, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:I don't know what it means to you. |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Nobody: 9:45am On Jul 16, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: u said Solomon ddnt enter God's rest like his father. I simply asked how u arrived at this conclusion cos it seemed like a fallacy.... how my short question seem to have various interpretation beats me...if you don't understand my question it okay to ignore |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:52am On Jul 16, 2020 |
1StopRudeness: And Adversaries where Raised Up By God After Solomon's Departure, to Torment Solomon. And what was Solomon's Response, was it not to do evil, in seeking the death of his Adversaries Rather than To Seek the Forgiveness of God and face the Consequences of his Foolishness, which is what David his father, did? Did David not do a similar error (the Uriah Affair), did David seek to kill anybody, even his own sons, for his Error? That's why I Love David, He was Really a Very Wise Man, which is why I Understand why God Friended Him! |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:10am On Jul 16, 2020 |
1StopRudeness: My Conclusion is based on the Watching God's Responses to People and people's Responses to God! For, Look at all God's Responses to man, After He Firsts, Introduced Himself to a person. When such a person does well, God keeps Speaking with them at various intervals, Regularly, until the person Sleeps or dies eg Abraham, Jacob, Samuel, David etc When a person does not well, God almost Never Speaks to that person Again eg Eli, Samson, Hezekiah and Solomon. And the story almost always Contains the Words "And He walked with the Lord, for the remainder of his days!" |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:30am On Jul 16, 2020 |
uracefriend: The Combination of 1kings 11:9-14 and verses 31-40 Particularly verse 38 which says And it shall be, if thou wilt hearken unto all that I command thee, and wilt walk in my ways, and do that is right in my sight, to keep my statutes and my commandments, as David my servant did; (Not Solomon) that I will be with thee, and build thee a sure house, as I built for David, and will give Israel unto thee. |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:32am On Jul 16, 2020 |
chatinent: It is not my meaning but Ops meaning which Op has already confirmed and we are already progressing in it |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:55am On Jul 16, 2020 |
Righteousness89: This is not True! Every one who was forgiven, Seriously and vehemently begged for it. And until God Forgave they did not have it. Eg Moses, the Speak to the Rock Affair). Eli for his sons. My Personal Friend, David, even pleaded for Forgiveness for the Uriah Affair but did not escape the Consequences. The Woman with the Alabaster Box Seriously Begged until Christ Expressly Forgave her! By the Bible Standards, if you do not Seriously Beg and Obtain Forgiveness, You Do Not Have It! , Righteousness89: Hezekiah's Case is even more interesting, for he like Solomon did both well and foolishly. But unlike Solomon, he had a Store of Goodness with the Lord. But he did not understand that God was telling him to seek forgiveness of his sins and die in Peace, to Obtain Rest but he asked the Lord to Give him his Goodnesses in the hand of the Lord, so that he could enjoy it on earth, and he did not care about what Will Surely Happen to his children. But all he wanted was to enjoy life on earth, which the Lord granted him. So Hezekiah Cashed Out his Savings with the Lord for 15 years of enloyment! That is my Submission! |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Nobody: 11:13am On Jul 16, 2020 |
uracefriend:If you read Ecclesiastes. He often said Vanity upon vanity, all his vanity Solomon Repented. He asked God for wisdom, so God gave him experience in other to gain wisdom. He documented his findings in Proverbs and Ecclesiastes. Forget The Many Wives, He made mistakes in other to arrive at a conclusion at a later time of his life. The Life of old testament saints where like a game in the hands of God. He already knows what will happen, for Instance many years before Moses was born, God already told Abraham that his children will be slaves in a foreign land for 400 years after which he will save them. This men sacrificed their lives, made mistakes and it was all documented, so that our generation can have things easy. Most old testament saints are in heaven. Solomon is in heaven. Imagine God telling prophet Joel to marry a prostitute, unto what level ![]() |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Righteousness89(m): 11:15am On Jul 16, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: Young man, go read your Bible well! You are totally Confused! Your Vehement or not Vehement is nonsense! It does not Move God! All God Almighty looks for is a Heart that is truly sorry for what He or she has done! When Prophet Nathan Told David of what he has done! David simply said, "I have sinned against the LORD" and Nathan said, The Lord has put away thy sins. 2Samuel12. Sin has it consequences! You can be Forgiven does not mean the Consequences don't come. That's for God to decide not me! There are people who Repented and God said forgive you! The Consequences won't come during your time .. David act of killing Uriah and Marrying Beersheba got Forgiven but the child that came forth from that act of adultery was taken away. God has a way of dealing with various persons.. The Criminal at the Cross is in Heaven today with just a simply prayer of " Lord Remember me when thou Comest into thy Kingdom " Matthew 23:42 Prayerfully Read your Bible! Stop hooking yourself with unnecessary burdens that you can't carry on your Neck! 1 Like |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Nobody: 11:34am On Jul 16, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:Solomon is in heaven bro, Chan is peaceful rest. ? |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Manofvalor1: 11:52am On Jul 16, 2020 |
YES.bible accounts points to the fact that solomon live a wayward life in his youthful years of quest for pleasure,lust,power and material things.but he later repented when he had seen the folly of such pursuit of wayward life without God and that was when he wrote the book of proverbs and ecclesiates. 1 Like |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by michjunior: 12:24pm On Jul 16, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:Are u saying that king solomon went to hell? |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Nobody: 12:46pm On Jul 16, 2020 |
If all Israel would be saved, how much more Solomon? The only people that are Israelites and who will not be saved are those that aren't given unto salvation. Sons of perdition like Judas Iscariot... Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:32pm On Jul 16, 2020 |
Righteousness89: How much is the measurement of the heart? I know you know that it is written that "the Lord Tries the heart", what does "try" mean? For the answer, is it not written "A false balance is abomination to the Lord: What do we balance? Is it not weights? And the next statement clearly tells us "but a just weight is his delight" How shall you know if a weight is just, without Weighing it? And if you fail to understand the gravity of it (haha, ![]() One who offended his wife, by having sex with her sister? Or One who pushed her when he was in a haste? For those who may not know the answer, I refer you to Luke 7:36-50, for you to make your own independent judgement for yourselves. To Mr Righteousness and to all, I close by saying All the ways of a man are clean in his own eyes; but the Lord weigheth the spirits. (that word "Weigh" again) A just weight and balance are the Lord's: all the weights of the bag are his work. (Weights again). |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by uracefriend(m): 2:47pm On Jul 16, 2020 |
VLTA:I like your point sire. But what about these words of Jesus Matthew 8:11-12 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. That statement, all Israel will be saved....does it include those into black arts, satanism, etc. Remember Paul said, we are all Israel, we who believe, not according to the flesh but according to the promise. Romans 9:6-8 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. God does not change. What He says to one, He says to all. He is not a respecter of persons. |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:57pm On Jul 16, 2020 |
Righteousness89: He Looks to the heart and weighs it, for that is How Every Judgement is Arrived at, Based on Its Weights. Little offences, little Weights and Judgement Follows! Big Offences, Big Weights and Judgement Follows! Which is why It is Written Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment, in meteyard, in weight, or in measure. Just balances, just weights, a just ephah, and a just hin, shall ye have: I am the Lord your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt. Also Look at the Weights of Christ's Judgement on the Widows Mite! I Rest! |
Re: Did King Solomon Make Heaven? by Nobody: 3:00pm On Jul 16, 2020 |
uracefriend: Thanks sir. I can see you are actually willing to learn, so am I Outer darkness isn't same as "hell". Jesus wasn't referring to eternal separation from God and eternity in hell fire there. |
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