ChrisKels:


Top strikers do not need millions of minutes to show their stuff, Martin Braithwaite and many others have already shown that. You can not have the likes of Bruno Fernandez, Paul Pogba et al around you, yet you keep giving excuses every other day, on why you couldn't score. Chances are being created for him but he has failed to put any away, should we all turn a blind eye to that?

You don't get starting spots on a platter, you earn it, if he was doing enough with the minutes he's gotten, he probably wouldda forced Ole's hand by now.

This is totally unacceptable Jay

I swear it’s either you no no anything or you no Dey watch ball

How many minutes on the pitch in the epl has Ighalo played together with Bruno or Pogba ?

Make I just free you for now

TheSuperNerd:


Yes. Already mentioned him here many pages back. Plays for Nordsjaelland. Same club Ajax bought Ghanaian forward, Mohammed Kudus from.

I used his pic as a meme not quite long ago on this thread... This particular one below.

Yea.... he is a talent. I think he is present captain of Danish u18. Him(17) and emeka nnamani (18) are doing well for nordsjaelland u19. Emeka is their highest goal scorer

E shock person nnah, no be your everyday normal lose, but nah 11.10 lose, and for ya backyard again, choiii




anyway, your padi don start, hin IGGY diss again ooo.

How we go settle the matta nah

andrewbaba44:


Lol

Na only Leicester game I bother watch yesterday ,there was no need in watching barca game when I know madrid will win theirs

do4luv14:

E shock person nnah, no be your everyday normal lose, but nah 11.10 lose, and for ya backyard again, choiii




anyway, your padi don start, hin IGGY diss again ooo.

How we go settle the matta nah

I will get back to that slowpoke

Yes. That's the lad. You know him quite well. Still quietly following the lad.

dymusty86:
Yea.... he is a talent. I think he is present captain of Danish u18. Him(17) and emeka nnamani (18) are doing well for nordsjaelland u19. Emeka is their highest goal scorer

Reports say that Joe Aribo was quite magnificent in midfield yesterday for Rangers in their 2-0 friendly victory over Lyon.
That's a fine review to hear.

Liposure:
for me belgium is one team i expected to do greater things with the calibre of players they have. I still dont know why they fail to win the last worldcup. They were clear favourites.

LOL, Belgium win World Cup from where?

Maybe in 2022, but I did not expect them to win anything in 2018

Liposure:
what has mexico overachieved. Apart from contesting superiority with USA in the concacaf region. what else

They've performed better than Nigeria in most World Cups, and I think their teams have been at par with Nigeria each of those years, as far as talent.

ChrisKels:


Top strikers do not need millions of minutes to show their stuff, Martin Braithwaite and many others have already shown that. You can not have the likes of Bruno Fernandez, Paul Pogba et al around you, yet you keep giving excuses every other day, on why you couldn't score. Chances are being created for him but he has failed to put any away, should we all turn a blind eye to that?

You don't get starting spots on a platter, you earn it, if he was doing enough with the minutes he's gotten, he probably wouldda forced Ole's hand by now.

This is totally unacceptable Jay

Is this a joke?

How many times are Pogba and Fernandes on the pitch, when Ighalo gets fielded? No be Mata and Fred e dey follow play?

Abeg dey watch match, no be say you go just come dey drop hot takes anyhow.

Rangers are scouting South Africa's Zungu

I know that boy would go places

safarigirl:



Is this a joke?

How many times are Pogba and Fernandes on the pitch, when Ighalo gets fielded? No be Mata and Fred e dey follow play?

Abeg dey watch match, no be say you go just come dey drop hot takes anyhow.

You well aware of the number of chances Ighalo has squandered right?

Subzero047:
Rangers are scouting South Africa's Zungu

I know that boy would go places

Going places by moving from the French league to the Scottish league? This is sarcasm, init?

ChrisKels:


Top strikers do not need millions of minutes to show their stuff, Martin Braithwaite and many others have already shown that. You can not have the likes of Bruno Fernandez, Paul Pogba et al around you, yet you keep giving excuses every other day, on why you couldn't score. Chances are being created for him but he has failed to put any away, should we all turn a blind eye to that?

You don't get starting spots on a platter, you earn it, if he was doing enough with the minutes he's gotten, he probably wouldda forced Ole's hand by now.

This is totally unacceptable Jay

I'm not sure Ighalo have played 180 minutes of premier league football(i can be wrong though)

You can do very little with that playing time

Martin Braithwaite plays for Barcelona, has being given more time on the pitch and i don't think he has scored more goals than Ighalo this season


Sure Jude should have scored 1 or 2.. It's been a while but i believe he will come good..

PS: No coach will bench a Tony Martial atm for Ighalo, d dude is on Fire

Edopesin:


Can you imagine... Ighalo did not play football in the last two games but he should score

Lol!! But check am sha


E suppose don get one or two

Abi na only FA cup and Europa e sabi score?

Sha, we are not complaining

He is giving us smiles and loads of "I'm living my dream" interviews

TheSuperNerd:
Lol. I get you. You are right. That's the only age grade title missing from our cabinet. With Samson Tijani (Salzburg), Amoo (Hammarby), Ishaq Abdulrazak (Norrkoping), and a couple more, I think we will have a solid base to build a strong U-20 side that can try make this dream come true.
First, we need to confirm our U-20 coach.

Na so. Seems we would get confirmation sometime in August according to NFF President

Subzero047:
Rangers are scouting South Africa's Zungu

I know that boy would go places

Is it the same zungu playing for Amiens?

JayromWrites:


I'm not sure Ighalo have played 180 minutes of premier league football(i can be wrong though)

You can do very little with that playing time

Martin Braithwaite plays for Barcelona, has being given more time on the pitch and i don't think he has scored more goals than Ighalo this season


Sure Jude should have scored 1 or 2.. It's been a while but i believe he will come good..

PS: No coach will bench a Tony Martial atm for Ighalo, d dude is on Fire

Ighalo has played 9 epl games which is just 85 minutes

Yes martial won’t be benched for anyone

JayromWrites:


Lol!! But check am sha


E suppose don get one or two

Abi na only FA cup and Europa e sabi score?

Sha, we are not complaining

He is giving us smiles and loads of "I'm living my dream" interviews

You know better than this baba

How many minutes is he playing ?

Someone is playing 90 minutes in the fa cup and co and scoring but you want that to Happen in the epl with just 85 minutes from 9 games

Okay now uhmmm... I knew I would make time to return to this so let me just drop this quickly.


✔European and International football:

Internationally, my Overachievers list will have Greece. Greece have won the Euros. Stronger football nations like England and Belgium haven't won it yet. I think they are the biggest overachiever in European football.

Another overachiever internationally is Korea Republic. They have reached the World Cup Semifinals and finished 4th in 2002. Something not even the finest African teams in history have achieved. The likes of Nigeria's Golden Generation of 1994 couldn't... Cameroun's Golden Generations of the 80s and 2000s couldn't. Korea is another overachiever.

I don't rate Germany as an Overachiever. They have always boasted real talents down the years and matched that with success on the European and International fronts. Germany is truly among the world class Football nations of all time.





Now for Underachiever, we have Holland without question. So good they have been across different generations of talents but are yet to stamp their authority internationally at a World Cup. Three WC final losses in 1974, 1978 and 2010 have seen them really suffer the chance of being regarded among the truly Elite Nations of Football.

Even at France 98, they were so good but still fell short in the Semis against Brazil. One of the French players from '98 once said something like, "If Holland had made it to the final against us, I'm not so sure we would have won it. We preferred Brazil". That's just how good the Netherlands were as they have always been but they just never hit that jackpot. Yes, they did win the Euros in 1988 but that is still so little for a nation so mightily blessed with some or several of the finest ballers of every generation.


Another football nation worthy of the Underachievers tag is uhmmm.... **Still thinking** (Forgive me, Spain has since left the Underachievers WhatsApp group chat .. so to find replacement come hard).
But I would say England on the European front only. Internationally, well... They have the World cup and did well in the last edition too.






✔African football

Coming to the African football scenes, yes, Senegal is Africa's no.1 underachiever. It's very obvious why. No need to say much as some of you have already done so.

Now, I don't know if Morocco should be counted as one because they conquered the continent in 1976. In 2004, they came close again but fell to Tunisia. Perhaps it is their current results not matching the quality of their present Generation of super talents (Hakimi, Ziyech, Mazraoui, etc) that will tempt us into adding them to the underachievers list.

Another Underachiever on the African continent for me again is Mali. Blessed with superb talents almost every nations cup year. Produced Salif Keita back in the late 60s and the 70s. Salif Keita was the first African Player of the year award winner. That guy ruled France and even made the Euros XI that faced the South American XI back in 1973. He scored in that game that ended 4-4 and played alongside Johann Cruyff and Eusebio in that encounter. He could only lead Mali to 2nd place at the 1972 Afcon.

Mali after the great Keita, had others like another Keita called Seydou Keita, then Mohammadu Diarra who played for Real Madrid at one time. They also produced Frederic Kanoute, the Sevilla legend.

Mali always have ballers! Even right now they have some very exciting players like Haidara at RB Leipzig, Sammasekou at Hoffenheim and so on... Yet they haven't made a mark continentally at senior level. We saw their beautiful football at the last Afcon in the group stages. Scoring world class goals and bossing teams... But they got the Round of 16 and became Chickens.

They are Big underachievers in the African continent for me. Second only to Senegal.



For Overachievers, I would mention Tunisia. They aren't always the most talented side or "side with the biggest or known names" at the Afcon but they are always normally tactically disciplined almost to a fault. Tunisia have had the likes of Radhi Jaidi, Francileudo Dos Santos and co but to be honest, they are not exactly big names but they are a solid unit.
Never among the teams you call the outright favorites and not always among the teams you mention as having the "Main Stars to Watch" but they have achieved Afcon success in 2004 and even finished FOURTH at the last Afcon. Also, how they have made it to the World Cup more times than Egypt is baffling. Egypt have always had the better footballers but Tunisia just seems more team driven and tactically disciplined enough to get the job done.


Cameroun as an Overachiever won't count for me in Africa. If I list Cameroun's big names of the 80s and 2000s, una fit run. Tunisia sef no fit stand alongside Cameroun for notable names in African football.

I could say more but this will do. My submission. Gracias.

chrisooblog:
little distracting topic for discussion house. which national team would you say has overachieved and underachieved in international football? for me Holland is the undisputed underachieving champion while for overachievers i go with Germany. Die Mannshaft haven't always had the best of squads and most stand out talents but somehow they always get the job done.

for africa senegal are clearly the biggest underachievers honorable mention to morocco, while disputable i think cameroon fits into the overachiever slot.

what's your opinion guys?
cc supernerd and anybody else feel free to comment

andrewbaba44:


You know better than this baba

How many minutes is he playing ?

Someone is playing 90 minutes in the fa cup and co and scoring but you want that to Happen in the epl with just 85 minutes from 9 games

85 minutes??

That's not Even upto a full match

Bia Chris, be careful

JayromWrites:


85 minutes??

That's not Even upto a full match

Bia Chris, be careful

I swear

ChrisKels:


You well aware of the number of chances Ighalo has squandered right?

Is it up to the chances Firmino has missed?

How many chances has he missed?

safarigirl:


Is it up to the chances Firmino has missed?

His assists make up for his prodigalities. BTW, this isn't about Firmino, but Ighalo

JayromWrites:


85 minutes??

That's not Even upto a full match

Bia Chris, be careful

9 matches bro

Transfer News: Uzoho moves

DONE DEAL: Francis Uzoho joins Cypriot Giants APOEL Nicosia FC on a three-year contract.

TheSuperNerd:
Transfer News: Uzoho moves

DONE DEAL: Francis Uzoho joins Cypriot Giants APOEL on a three-year contract.

The best club in Cyprus. I remember their fairytale run a few seasons ago in the Europa abi UCL

ChrisKels:


His assists make up for his prodigalities. BTW, this isn't about Firmino, but Ighalo

LOL

Which assists?

How many assists per game?

Is Ighalo playing enough games to judge him in the EPL?

See ehn, whatever you're saying is wrong. Ighalo does not need Chriskels on Nairaland to validate his position as a top striker. He was top scorer in AFCON and top scorer in Qualifiers, with Kalu, Moses and Chukwueze as his suppliers. He has proven that if he gets a decent run of games, he will score. He had 30 in a year for Watford, playing alongside Deeney.

The man is having the time of his life in United, he is living a dream and having fun, I doubt he is even taking it as seriously as you are. He returns to China by the end of the season, that is his actual work place. Na vacation e dey do for United.

He is not playing for United to keep him, he is not Braithwaite or Firmino (you brought other players into the discussion for comparison, you should have wondered what Braithwaite has to do with Ighalo)

Braithwaite is not on loan, he has more to lose. Ighalo is just having fun, he does not need goal tally for United at all to prove he's a top striker.

I hope you understand.

How can anybody even call Martin Braithwaite a top striker?

safarigirl:


LOL

Which assists?

How many assists per game?

Is Ighalo playing enough games to judge him in the EPL?

See ehn, whatever you're saying is wrong. Ighalo does not need Chriskels on Nairaland to validate his position as a top striker. He was top scorer in AFCON and top scorer in Qualifiers, with Kalu, Moses and Chukwueze as his suppliers. He has proven that if he gets a decent run of games, he will score. He had 30 in a year for Watford, playing alongside Deeney.

The man is having the time of his life in United, he is living a dream and having fun, I doubt he is even taking it as seriously as you are. He returns to China by the end of the season, that is his actual work place. Na vacation e dey do for United.

He is not playing for United to keep him, he is not Braithwaite or Firmino (you brought other players into the discussion for comparison, you should have wondered what Braithwaite has to do with Ighalo)

Braithwaite is not on loan, he has more to lose. Ighalo is just having fun, he does not need goal tally for United at all to prove he's a top striker.

I hope you understand.

Even the braithwaite he was using as example has scored only 1 goal for Barca

Yes. In the 2011/2012 season. Reached the Quarter finals of the Champions league. I think they eliminated a French team. Very fairytale that was. Shocking in fact.


Uzoho is joining from Deportivo La Coruna after the expiry of his loan deal at Omonia Nicosia as you know.

I'm sure you agree this is a fine move and I hope he becomes their #1. They obviously rate him as he was outstanding in the league for Omonia Nicosia before his injury and before Covid eventually struck. Uzoho is with the Biggest and most successful team in Cyprus. Not bad for a young African goalie in a league rated #16 in Europe.

ChrisKels:


The best club in Cyprus. I remember their fairytale run a few seasons ago in the Europa abi UCL

TheSuperNerd:
Transfer News: Uzoho moves

DONE DEAL: Francis Uzoho joins Cypriot Giants APOEL Nicosia on a three-year contract.

Good news for him

He may yet play champions league football....


Our GK crisis is slowly but surely coming to an end

TheSuperNerd:
Transfer News: Uzoho moves

DONE DEAL: Francis Uzoho joins Cypriot Giants APOEL Nicosia FC on a three-year contract.

Wow Apoel Nicosia, good move