A40:

You are a thief!! No sensible human being will use total shots to determine a player's conversion rate and how clinical they are. Else guys like Cristiano Ronaldo would not be rated at all

This is stupid. So you won't consider missed chances that were off the target, when calculating the efficiency in front of goal, of an attacker?

You are even comparing a Central forward to wingers in this convo? Dayo should lock you up.

donstan18:

And we've gone that low? Comparing ourselves to a team yet to win a league in the past 7 years, despite their huge spendings and change of managers.

How about comparing us to clubs like Lepzig, Atlanta and Leicester in terms of goals, before we can start thinking of being compared to Barcelona, Madrid, Bayern, Dortumund, Psg, City and Liverpool.

Bruv! Lampard is shiiit when it comes to attacking football! Typical pattern of England national team of Golden Era. Nothing else.

You forget we were on ban for two transfer windows and we had to use inexperienced and young players

Lampard is trying his best!!!!

Imagine praising pirlo just to undermine Jorginho and forget that pirlo had the great Chelini and bonuci behind him and vidal, and co as his partners.

The same pirlo that benched in ac milan. Why? Even after conte left Pirlo didnt last in Juve before he left does that mean pirlo was a poor player? NO (conte probably tried to do the same thing with Fabregas when Matic left.. Kante cant cover the whole midfield by himself)

Ac milan didnt have good defense, Thiago silva must have left by then to PSG. You cant play a regista and have horrible defenders. Even pep knows this.

The only reason Jorginho would be sold is because of Lampard and not because of Jorginho's quality. It might have been the reason Jorginho didnt stay in Napoli when Anceloti joined, some managers dont like or know how to use them properly.

donstan18:

Bros you funny oo! You dey watch Busquet atall?

1. Busquet height is very useless in Barcelona. He'll hardly score with it, defend with it or win aerial ball with it. He's useless during set pieces.

2. I agree with you.

3. He's long leg interceptions shiit is no different compared to Matic and Bakayoko of Chelsea. Your long leg is useless if you are sluggish.

Watch Mac Tomminay, Fabinho and that Portuguese Danilo to know the importance of long leg. You must not be sluggish.

4. I also agree with you.

Simply put, he can't fit in, in Chelsea.

1) Who now helps Barcelona during corners or free kicks? Is it Messi and Alba? When he was surrounded with them Xavi, Iniesta, Alves, Alba, Neymar, Pedro, and Macherano, who were the people helping Barcelona with set pieces or crosses?

3) Busquets has a reputation for being at the right place at the right time, making vital interceptions and of course doing the dirty jobs. He did not just become a constant in Barcelona midfield only just because he can pass.

Griezmann who has been on Balon d'or podium came to Barcelona and is finding it difficult to fit in. It is not a crime if a player can not fit into a system, that's why there are different systems suitable for different players.

TheRealProphet1:
You forget we were on ban for two transfer windows and we had to use inexperienced and young players

Lampard is trying his best!!!!

I agree. It's justifiable anyway.

homesteady:


Oga, where are the DMs you were always comparing Busquets with?

Please answer me and don't disappear like them.

They didn't have their fathers as ex-players of the team they played for, like Busquets, to cement their place in the teams they played for.

Busquets, the defensive weakling.

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Rubbish analysis everywhere

airmark:


They didn't have their fathers as ex-players of the team they played for, like Busquets, to cement their place in the teams they played for.

Busquets, the defensive weakling.

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Oga, where are they? That is what I asked you.

donstan18:
I agree. It's justifiable anyway.

Expect goals next season.
Stay safe

BlueAngel444:
Oblak stylish refused to join that summer, is it now this summer he would join.

Allison saw VVD and obviously picked them over us.

Valdez was a super star when puyol was there na, and when the anointing was still fresh on young pique's head.

Look at Neuer when boateng was to disgrace himself or Courtios as Zidane returned and the defense received sense.

The reason ATM have been having good keepers is their defensive structure. Most good keepers come from teams like that

A good goalie complements a good defence.

I am afraid the reverse was the case with Victor Valdez as it is now with Kepa - though the later hasn't had good defenders.

When Courtoir was our goalie, his height was an advantage which he used really well - something our current keeper lacks.
During Conte's title winning season, Courtoir's ability to catch corner kicks with ease aided our counter attacking football. His size made it difficult to score him during tight one on one situations.
His size also meant that he could dive for balls with ease.

Point is, Kepa is too small to be a goalie.

donjazet:


Airmark has a twisted way of analyzing players. He chooses the rare worst moments of the player and then brings out a random post criticizing the player.

If we apply this same method of analysis to all players, no one will look good.

If I wanted to discredit Messi, I could compile rare moments of Messi being easily dispossed by defenders, missing penalties and open nets and posting articles or comments that criticize Messi.

This is called selective bias.
There is no player who hasn't made damning errors in their gameplay. It's all about the consistency.
Busquet has been the number 1 DM for both Barça and Spain for more than 10 years. Two top teams that have been highly successful within that timeframe. Only a fool would rubbish such a player.

How many times did Chelsea fans ask Kante to fvck off for costing us matches on a reg?

No player is above mistakes, but when you are known for this, and you only depend on your teammates to survive, you are sh1t. The same thing we complain on Jorginho, is the same thing sensible Barca fans complained about Busquets. Jorginho's frailties are not masked simply because he is playing in Epl.

Busquets never made any Fifa XI, despite winning trophies both for Spain and Barca. Experts know the primary job of a DM - DEFENSIVE Midfielder.

BlueAngel444:
Salah and KDB improved na,

Salah that plays right forward obviously struggled playing Right attacking midfield, someone that wants to score goals should come and be defending like willian, thats why Cuardado was signed. Just look at how Pedro flopped before Conte came and pushed him forward.

Is it KDB, the only reason Lampard and Oscar started instead of him was because of defensive contributions. And I must say Oscar was damn good, he could shoot, pass, run, dribble and still tackle. KDB went to german and played passes but after some many seasons learnt how to contribute defensively (in his own small way)

Jorginho is just not as lucky as Busquets to have teammate where he can use opponents and play middle man

Don't use mourinho's impatience and shortsightedness to blame salah for his time at Chelsea and pls dont generalize. Some of us never for once supported that single decision and it's the more reason why some of us don't really get along with our fellow Chelsea fans both online and offline for not not supporting a man majority sees no wrong in whatever he does.

TheRealProphet1:
Matic offered us those attributes but ended up like a sour beans unfit for consumption.


Bousquet is finished and you don't need to dwell on past glory.. think ahead.

Matic helped Fabregas when we won EPL, if Matic was of no help to Kante then replacing him would have been easy. Matic had aerial presence and defensive presence though he was static at times but he had his uses in midfield even Conte didnt want him to leave. There are some players it's when they leave you understand what it missing.
We know Kante can't cover ever where

Busquets may also shine playing with Kante, never can tell or flop horribly like he is doing playing with Vidal and Rakitic

airmark:


This is stupid. So you won't consider missed chances that were off the target, when calculating the efficiency in front of goal, of an attacker?

You are even comparing a Central forward to wingers in this convo? Dayo should lock you up.

All shots are not created equal. If they were guys like OPTA would not break things down further and have separate categories for actual chances missed.

Your brain's OS is still on Windows 95 when everyone else is using Windows 10. No wonder you're still using Appearances instead of minutes played like every other up to date analyst. Onye nzuzu!

You're still foolishly asking me why I'm comparing CF to a winger? Why does that matter? Who takes more shots at Liverpool between Salah and Firmino. You are so dense walahi

popizaino:



Don't use mourinho's impatience and shortsightedness to blame salah for his time at Chelsea and pls dont generalize. Some of us never for once supported that single decision and it's the more reason why some of us don't really get along with our fellow Chelsea fans both online and offline for not not supporting a man majority sees no wrong in whatever he does.

I didnt blame Salah nor KDB, they both saw they didnt fit in with Mou's logic and left.

But i commend them for going to the right teams and improving themselves.

airmark:


Carrick and Matic could screen the ball better than Jorginho and Busquets. Jorginho started having problems when opponents figured it out.



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Airmark pls stop this blasphemy.

BlueAngel444:
which busquets Jorginho has hope self

Ok

homesteady:


1) Who now helps Barcelona during corners or free kicks? Is it Messi and Alba? When he was surrounded with them Xavi, Iniesta, Alves, Alba, Neymar, Pedro, and Macherano, who were the people helping Barcelona with set pieces or crosses?

3) Busquets has a reputation for being at the right place at the right time, making vital interceptions and of course doing the dirty jobs. He did not just become a constant in Barcelona midfield only just because he can pass.

Griezmann who has been on Balon d'or podium came to Barcelona and is finding it difficult to fit in. It is not a crime if a player can not fit into a system, that's why there are different systems suitable for different players.

1. Set pieces and counter attacks through wings which normally leads to crossing have been Barcelona weakest point then, and still now.

If we must mention players that have contributed immensely while facing set pieces, we'll be mentioning Umtiti, Pique and even Puyol because he's got a good jump and nodding accuracy. Kindly check the aforementioned players and you'll agree with me that they do score with head also during set pieces in their opponent's box 18. Busquet is very useless to Barcelona when it comes to set pieces.

2. The reputation he built in Barcelona then was as a result of paring with midfield maestros like Xavi and Inesta, and this is why....

During that era. Barcelona's midfielders got no business with interceptions, you can only intercept regularly when you are being possessed. Then, they'll posses you and do the play, while you do the marking. They cruise to create, you chase to stop, which gives you, the chaser chances of getting interceptions.

Busquet is good, but defensively useless. He can only fit in, in a club like in-form Barcelona and Barcelona. He's very useless without Inesta and Xavi, because without these two, a high defensive prowess will be needed. Can Busquet give that? No!!


I agree with your last line.

donstan18:

That core principle is what I'm hitting at.

A thing of luck? For real?

Pep won UCL twice in his last 5 years in Barcelona, he made semis in all.

Then he joined Bayern, a team that made it to finals thrice in 4 years, and you are typing about luck.

Like, wtf!!!

4yrs at barca

swiz123:


A good goalie complements a good defence.

I am afraid the reverse was the case with Victor Valdez as it is now with Kepa - though the later hasn't had good defenders.

When Courtoir was our goalie, his height was an advantage which he used really well - something our current keeper lacks.
During Conte's title winning season, Courtoir's ability to catch corner kicks with ease aided our counter attacking football. His size made it difficult to score him during tight one on one situations.
His size also meant that he could dive for balls with ease.

Point is, Kepa is too small to be a goalie.

I dont know if the reverse is the case, expect you mention one good goalkeeper that had bad defenders even Leicester GK has good defenders.

For Courtios, Luiz was good in the air and defending corners.

Even GK with height have weaknesses in catchinh very low balls, or being quick to bend and block.

Suddenly Kepa is now too small to be a goalie since when. How big was Cassilas? or Fabian Barthez.

Is Kepa's poor perfomance as bad as Courtios 2015/16 or at some various points before this season.

Looking at Courtios in belgium and him at Chesea that 2018 the difference was the defense. #simple

I knew Chelsea shouldnt have spent 70m on a GK when they could have bought a CB for that amount and look for some cheap and good alternative

homesteady:


Exactly. And to make matters worse, he keeps on repeating the same gifs, posts and ratings every single time. This Busquets argument has been going on between both of us for close to 5 years now and it's the same thing he posts every time�. No change.

I wonder why they don't encourage growth and development in that his academy, look at hensben, he is still abnormal as he was many years ago.

You want me to focus on watching Busquets and save all his escort services in all your matches?

If i check your thread you will see the amount of dirts your people poured on the sluggish Busquets.

IKON360:

Meaning any counter na express road. Technical fouls will have to be necessary and Lenglet, Pique and Busquets aren't pacy enough to cover those spaces.

Busquets is one lucky mofo.

popizaino:



4yrs at barca

My bad, I thought he lost to ManU in UCL semi 2008

popizaino:



Airmark pls stop this blasphemy.

Tell that to Fifa that saw nothing stunning in him, worthy of putting him in Fifa XI, for 10yrs.

homesteady:


Don't you think it is high time you delete this gifs from your device? For many years now, this is what you keep on uploading when Busquets is discussed.

We all know that no other DM can even attempt what Busquets is doing there, yet he has a reputation for doing it right most of the time. Bringing out 5 or less clips out of more than a 10 year career of constant playing is just silly at best.

Drop it, it is stale already.

I wish I could like this post more than once .

homesteady:


Just watch this video and see the baby elephant called Hazard. How will a professional footballer be this fat?

https://twitter.com/LfcWrighty/status/1283884071765057537?s=19

Hidden Ikebe

A40:

You are a thief!! No sensible human being will use total shots to determine a player's conversion rate and how clinical they are. Else guys like Cristiano Ronaldo would not be rated at all

That is asinine. If you want to prove a player is wasteful you bring out their big chances missed like OPTA did not this your asinine commandclem analysis

Messi has more shots on and off target than Benzema. Whether he's a goalkeeper what it still shows to any one with a working brain is that he gets into position to score as much as Benzema

Your useless Belloti for example if we take away his 7 penalty goals he would be left with 9 goals from 61 shots. That means he converts 1 out of 7 chances going by your foolish logic.

You can see that two can play your mumu game

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This is so wrong on the emboldened. I won't say much

popizaino:



I bet you if jorginho plays exactly like busquest no one would call for him to be leave Chelsea.Don't out both in the same sentence simply because they are both dmf.

So this kind of expressway is what you want Busquets to construct in our midfield so that Rudiger and Zouma will be faced with barrage of 1v1 attacks, every matchday? You must be joking.

If you want escort services, go to Opebi.


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A40:
Rie nsi you shameless he-goat.

Benzema has scored 21 goals from 60 shots on goal. To put it in perspective Messi has 23 goals from 67 shots and Messi is Barca's primary PK taker. So where did you see 1 in 5 chances conversion rate. What an unlettered m0ron.

Ramos and Courtois are more important than the man that led Madrid in goals and assists? Better stick to MMM and commandclem analysis you stupid phucktard

Benzema contributed 21 goals and 8 assists. No other Madrid player scored half his goals or created as many assists. Clown

airmark is not intelligent

BlueAngel444:

I dont know if the reverse is the case, expect you mention one good goalkeeper that had bad defenders even Leicester GK has good defenders.

For Courtios, Luiz was good in the air and defending corners.

Even GK with height have weaknesses in catchinh very low balls, or being quick to bend and block.

Suddenly Kepa is now too small to be a goalie since when. How big was Cassilas? or Fabian Barthez.

Is Kepa's poor perfomance as bad as Courtios 2015/16 or at some various points before this season.

Looking at Courtios in belgium and him at Chesea that 2018 the difference was the defense. #simple

I knew Chelsea shouldnt have spent 70m on a GK when they could have bought a CB for that amount and look for some cheap and good alternative

David De gea of 2 years ago is a classic example of a good goalie with bad defenders in the name of smalling, Jones and young. Yet, he still shone.

Courtois performance has never been as poor as Kepa's. Conte deliberately undermined Courtois by keeping that clown Christensen in front of him. In appreciation, Christensen thanked Conte for his troubles by playing a pass across the defence line against Barcelona to deliciously find Iniesta who cut back for Messi and Voila!! Courtois was disgraced...

Atleti defeated Liverpool, not because of defensive errors but the goalkeeping errors...

I still maintain that: A good goalie complements a good defence and not the other way round

donstan18:

Any objective football fan will agree to the fact that a keeper is useless without a good defender.

No keeper alive will succeed with Chelsea's defenders[b]. Imagine Kepa with Barcelona[/b], Juve, ATM or Liverpool defense.

Then imagine Oblak, Allison, Neuer and Ederson with these fooools we call defenders in Chelsea.

If all the times we've watched Liverpool defenders loose guard, how many times have we seen Allison save them.

Omo good keeper Na defense oo! Ask Victor Valdez of Barcelona.

Lol.

How will kepa do well in the same barca that has weak defender like pique who has been ruining the career of the current Barcelona keeper according to the person you're quoting ?

airmark:


You want me to focus on watching Busquets and save all his escort services in all your matches?

If i check your thread you will see the amount of dirts your people poured on the sluggish Busquets.



Busquets is one lucky mofo.

Honestly, I don’t understand how these people don’t know Bousquet is not all that. With all his team success he was not even recognized once by fifa or UEFA.

popizaino:




Lol.

How will kepa do well in the same barca that has weak defender like pique who has been ruining the career of the current Barcelona keeper according to the person you're quoting ?

Pique is better than Chelsea's CBs