popizaino:

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This is so wrong on the emboldened. I won't say much

Go and argue with OPTA. I am not sure you know what you're talking about.

Going purely by shots is a silly way to rate a player's conversion rate or clinical ability.

Mo Salah for example has scored 19 goals but look at the number of shots. So going by this logic Salah is the most wasteful big name striker in Europe since he converts at 1 in 7 chances.

That's not how it works. Smart analysts drill down and read the fine print. That's why they also recorded shots on target, big chances missed etc which anyone can then scrutinize and see the true picture

hensben:
Honestly, I don’t understand how these people don’t know Bousquet is not all that. With all his team success he was not even recognized once by fifa or UEFA.

Na short passes and sideway passes dey thrill some people.

A DM should be shielding his defence first, that's his primary role. You can't deceive Fifa group, made up of soccer professionals.

Bl[s]ueAngel444:
Imagine praising pirlo just to undermine Jorginho and forget that pirlo had the great Chelini and bonuci behind him and vidal, and co as his partners.

The same pirlo that benched in ac milan. Why? Even after conte left Pirlo didnt last in Juve before he left does that mean pirlo was a poor player? NO (conte probably tried to do the same thing with Fabregas when Matic left.. Kante cant cover the whole midfield by himself)

Ac milan didnt have good defense, Thiago silva must have left by then to PSG. You cant play a regista and have horrible defenders. Even pep knows this.

The only reason Jorginho would be sold is because of Lampard and not because of Jorginho's quality. It might have been the reason Jorginho didnt stay in Napoli when Anceloti joined, some managers dont like or know how to use them properly[/s].

For sanity sake moderator should remove this comment asap

homesteady:


1) Who now helps Barcelona during corners or free kicks? Is it Messi and Alba? When he was surrounded with them Xavi, Iniesta, Alves, Alba, Neymar, Pedro, and Macherano, who were the people helping Barcelona with set pieces or crosses?

3) Busquets has a reputation for being at the right place at the right time, making vital interceptions and of course doing the dirty jobs. He did not just become a constant in Barcelona midfield only just because he can pass.

Griezmann who has been on Balon d'or podium came to Barcelona and is finding it difficult to fit in. It is not a crime if a player can not fit into a system, that's why there are different systems suitable for different players.

This Reminds of vincete del busquest on sergio busquest and I quote.


" when you watch the game you don't see sergio busquest but when you watch busquest you see the whole game".

airmark:


They didn't have their fathers as ex-players of the team they played for, like Busquets, to cement their place in the teams they played for.

Busquets, the defensive weakling.

[img]https:///media/8-17-2017/eeWa2O.gif[/img]

This is high up in Madrid's half it barely would do any damage to his team unlike if it were to be in barca's half

swiz123:


David De gea of 2 years ago is a classic example of a good goalie with bad defenders in the name of smalling, Jones and young. Yet, he still shone.

Courtois performance has never been as poor as Kepa's. Conte deliberately undermined Courtois by keeping that clown Christensen in front of him. In appreciation, Christensen thanked Conte for his troubles by playing a pass across the defence line against Barcelona to deliciously find Iniesta who cut back for Messi and Voila!! Courtois was disgraced...

Atleti defeated Liverpool, not because of defensive errors but the goalkeeping errors...

I still maintain that: A good goalie complements a good defence and not the other way round

a compliment is only worth it to the correct consitituent. Which in this case is a good defense.

I agree about de gea. Look at de gea post Maguire (as much as make fun of him) and also AWB, and look at de gea now. In fact it has added confidence and helped Matic look like a magician in midfield. That's what a good defense does, it improves the team. No wonder it is said a good defense wins one the title. Like in the case of Leisceter, Man City and also Liverpool. Once VVD entered they went to UCL finals and then rest is history.

Managers know this, look at Conte he wanted a CB immediatly he joined Chelsea, he was given Luiz he had to revert to a 3 at the back not because of the GK or our attack but because of our weak defenders, something Mou had issues with that 2015/16. Conte still wanted a CB, if not bonucci, how abouy VVD, Rudiger was given it's like buying Ramos and Boateng but getting the weaker version of both on a bad day. So Chelsea still needed a tough tackling CB, which Chris tried to be anyway.

City spending millions on CB, understand this.

Look at Arsenal, cech went there struggled, leno who at one time was if not better than stegen was equally rated, is struggling. Juventus current GK, that played for arsenal is doing well, he even did well in Roma. Why? Good defense.

When you said Courtios performance has never been as bad. Bro Courtios has given me nightmares of ball creeping into the net. What you would say is Kepa has never been to Courtios heights before.

Look at Nick Pope, remove james lets see if he wont turn to pickford. Shey Joe hart was shinning because of Kompany wat happened after pep kicked him out for what reason self.

popizaino:



For sanity sake moderator should remove this comment asap

no one expects madmen to read that. Stop being an exception and be yourself. We know you lack sense in the sense in the afternoon, so stop reading things beyond you.

You wont even understand what you are reading now self.

donstan18:

1. Set pieces and counter attacks through wings which normally leads to crossing have been Barcelona weakest point then, and still now.

If we must mention players that have contributed immensely while facing set pieces, we'll be mentioning Umtiti, Pique and even Puyol because he's got a good jump and nodding accuracy. Kindly check the aforementioned players and you'll agree with me that they do score with head also during set pieces in their opponent's box 18. Busquet is very useless to Barcelona when it comes to set pieces.

2. The reputation he built in Barcelona then was as a result of paring with midfield maestros like Xavi and Inesta, and this is why....

During that era. Barcelona's midfielders got no business with interceptions, you can only intercept regularly when you are being possessed. Then, they'll posses you and do the play, while you do the marking. They cruise to create, you chase to stop, which gives you, the chaser chances of getting interceptions.

Busquet is good, but defensively useless. He can only fit in, in a club like in-form Barcelona and Barcelona. He's very useless without Inesta and Xavi, because without these two, a high defensive prowess will be needed. Can Busquet give that? No!!


I agree with your last line.

1) Just drop the defending set pieces argument already. You are just saying what you think you know. So when Puyol left and Umtiti was yet to come, it was only Pique that was doing the aerial defending abi? Or was it Mascherano that was helping him?

If you watch Barcelona matches, you will know that Busquets hardly stays in the opponent's 18 box during corners because he has to be positioned to stop any resulting counter attack.

2) You people will just open your mouth waaa and be talking anyhow. You can as well say Barcelona had 100% possession under them Xavi and they didn't face any attacking assault from other teams.

I literally uploaded a picture of Busquets stats when he visited Stamford Bridge about 2 years ago, he had the highest number of tackles and dominated the match, without the two players you are attaching him with, Yet you are still dwelling on the myth of a bygone era.

donjazet:


Where do you come from?
How do you form?
Who you?

Lol... Low key fan
Good you retraced your words
Na man you be

airmark:


Tell that to Fifa that saw nothing stunning in him, worthy of putting him in Fifa XI, for 10yrs.

Everyone one of us can't be in the team I can give you notable players who we rate highly but diddnt make any of these rating

A40:
Go and argue with OPTA. I am not sure you know what you're talking about.

Going purely by shots is a silly way to rate a player's conversion rate or clinical ability.

Mo Salah for example has scored 19 goals but look at the number of shots. So going by this logic Salah is the most wasteful big name striker in Europe since he converts at 1 in 7 chances.

That's not how it works. Smart analysts drill down and read the fine print. That's why they also recorded shots on target, big chances missed etc which anyone can then scrutinize and see the true picture

I wonder what that guy that has popcorn for brain cells would say of Ziyech when he starts averaging 4 shots per game in Chelsea with maybe one goal or none

airmark:


So this kind of expressway is what you want Busquets to construct in our midfield so that Rudiger and Zouma will be faced with barrage of 1v1 attacks, every matchday? You must be joking.

If you want escort services, go to Opebi.


[img]https:///media/4-12-2016/XFqhgK.gif[/img]

I thought you played before or was I wrong .sorry but I did not see any wrong with busquest movement there.

airmark:


You want me to focus on watching Busquets and save all his escort services in all your matches?

If i check your thread you will see the amount of dirts your people poured on the sluggish Busquets.

Is it not on this same thread that Chelsea fans were bashing Kante? Some were even calling for him to be sold?

homesteady:


1) Who now helps Barcelona during corners or free kicks? Is it Messi and Alba? When he was surrounded with them Xavi, Iniesta, Alves, Alba, Neymar, Pedro, and Macherano, who were the people helping Barcelona with set pieces or crosses?

3) Busquets has a reputation for being at the right place at the right time, making vital interceptions and of course doing the dirty jobs. He did not just become a constant in Barcelona midfield only just because he can pass.

Griezmann who has been on Balon d'or podium came to Barcelona and is finding it difficult to fit in. It is not a crime if a player can not fit into a system, that's why there are different systems suitable for different players.

Doesnt Jorginho do the same thing in that your number 2?

homesteady:


1) Just drop the defending set pieces argument already. You are just saying what you think you know. So when Puyol left and Umtiti was yet to come, it was only Pique that was doing the aerial defending abi? Or was it Mascherano that was helping him?

If you watch Barcelona matches, you will know that Busquets hardly stays in the opponent's 18 box during corners because he has to be positioned to stop any resulting counter attack.

2) You people will just open your mouth waaa and be talking anyhow. You can as well say Barcelona had 100% possession under them Xavi and they didn't face any attacking assault from other teams.

I literally uploaded a picture of Busquets stats when he visited Stamford Bridge about 2 years ago, he had the highest number of tackles and dominated the match, without the two players you are attaching him with, Yet you are still dwelling on the myth of a bygone era.

Defensively, Busquet is whack!

Stop stressing it.

airmark:


Na short passes and sideway passes dey thrill some people.

A DM should be shielding his defence first, that's his primary role. You can't deceive Fifa group, made up of soccer professionals.

Airmark, water dey your mouth? You can't answer the question I've been asking you?

Where are those players you have been comparing to Busquets?

popizaino:




Lol.

How will kepa do well in the same barca that has weak defender like pique who has been ruining the career of the current Barcelona keeper according to the person you're quoting ?

I oray your defense next year will be only Pique and Umiti

donstan18:

Defensively, Busquet is whack!

Stop stressing it.

Since you don't have anything to say, can you stress on this?

BlueAngel444:


Doesnt Jorginho do the same thing in that your number 2?

I'm not holding brief for Jorginho. I don't know what he does or doesn't do.

No Kante No Kante

No Kante

King Benzema

This is the player they are trying to diminish his impact in Madrid side. Benzema ran Madrids attack almost single handedly

www.nairaland.com/attachments/11946259_kingbenz_jpeg43a615e12aef4fed3e55c09f5e15232b

How can one look at the stats up there and still argue that Benzema did not run Madrids attack

TheRealProphet1:
You forget we were on ban for two transfer windows and we had to use inexperienced and young players

Lampard is trying his best!!!!

1 transfer window and you already bought Pulisic to cover the person that left

homesteady:


Just watch this video and see the baby elephant called Hazard. How will a professional footballer be this fat?

https://twitter.com/LfcWrighty/status/1283884071765057537?s=19

See as the guy fall yakata like Zulezoo.

But shey this Gareth Bale no be antisocial person like this?

eph12:

1 transfer window and you already bought Pulisic to cover the person that left

Inexperience mate,

Mount, Bily,Tammy,Fikayo,Odio,James etc.

popizaino:



I thought you played before or was I wrong .sorry but I did not see any wrong with busquest movement there.

The moment Carvajal intercepted the ball, look at where Busquets foolishly moved to. Instead of moving diagonally backward to shut down the lane in front of Carvajal, he moved wrongly. If you couldn't see anything wrong in that movement, then i understand why Busquets is great in your eyes.

How Lampard wan do am now...4-3-3 with Jorginho - yikes - or Kovacic as the pivot, or 4-2-3-1 with them both?

Maybe we'll see a three man defence sha. But there must be no scenario where Jorginho starts as a lone DMF and we dominate possession.

This team is way too suspect to take that risk.

popizaino:



This is high up in Madrid's half it barely would do any damage to his team unlike if it were to be in barca's half

I agree, just highlighting his foolish defending. Drop a shoulder, Busquets is languishing in the mud.

BlueMann:
How Lampard wan do am now...4-3-3 with Jorginho - yikes - or Kovacic as the pivot, or 4-2-3-1 with them both?

Maybe we'll see a three man defence sha. But there must be no scenario where Jorginho starts as a lone DMF and we dominate possession.

This team is way too suspect to take that risk.

Three at the back is the way to go.

BlueAngel444:
I wonder what that guy that has popcorn for brain cells would say of Ziyech when he starts averaging 4 shots per game in Chelsea with maybe one goal or none

You can't blame them. When you have ile keu foundation you will struggle to grasp simplest of concepts. How can you use shots per game in isolation as proof a player is clinical or has good conversion rate or not. Mumu conflating shots with actual scoring chances

I won't be suprised if the commandclem analyst was one of the Bitcoin victims earlier in the week.

homesteady:


Airmark, water dey your mouth? You can't answer the question I've been asking you?

Where are those players you have been comparing to Busquets?

I answered you bro, maybe you put plaster for eyes.

popizaino:



Everyone one of us can't be in the team I can give you notable players who we rate highly but diddnt make any of these rating

Tell me a player that won so many trophies like Busquets for club and his country, and never made it once, then i will tag him a fraud in his position.