finally there is no religious tolerance over there. it is a just media and paper sophisticated tolerance....

there is deep seated mistrust if not Muslims in lagos east won't be asking to occupying the senatorial seat...

akintola won't be questioning why ekiti has all her commissioners nearly Christian without sharing the slot 50:50.


those who live by propaganda dies by propaganda.

BoboNkiti19:

I will use this real life experience as my example, I work with two Yorubas, one lady from Ekiti who is Christian, a core Redeemed goer. The other one is from Oyo state, and he's a Muslim at least from his name (Azeez). Those two no dey take eyes see each other, they only communicate in Yoruba just for the sake of it, but once the Azeez fellow clocks out and I work with the Ekiti lady... she openly spites the guy and doesn't hide her disdain for him (for reasons best known to her), although she has on occasions dropped some hints that suggests she doesn't really like him cause he's a Muslim.

The Yoruba girl I used to date always got very ANGRY whenever I joked about converting to Islam, she even made it clear in no uncertain terms that she won't raise her kids with a Muslim guy.

Now maybe these two scenarios among several experiences I have seen similar to my work colleagues are too miniscule to mean much in the larger scheme of things... but you will be absolutely fooling to think some degree of mutual disdain and distrust doesn't exist among Yorubas of different faiths- particularly the Christians and Muslims... I don't know much about the traditional worshippers.

Under normal circumstances, there will be such but it's minimal, hence this famous proverb in Yoruba land - Iwalesin (meaning behavior is religion, if I get the translation well).

I'm a Christian, some years back I worked in a farm, I'm a night staff, we don't have anywhere to sleep at night, except inside mosque.
Will I say because I'm a Christian, I won't sleep in a mosque? what will happen to me?

Like I said there will be such in everywhere but it's just minimal, check the guy family, there will be Christians in his family, will he pick up arms against his family?

reason why religion can never divide Yorubas.
Even the kings don't have religion, they go to mosque, church and attend traditional festivals.

MelesZenawi:
finally there is no religious tolerance over there. it is a just media and paper sophisticated tolerance....

there is deep seated mistrust if not Muslims in lagos east won't be asking to occupying the senatorial seat...

akintola won't be questioning why ekiti has all her commissioners nearly Christian without sharing the slot 50:50.


those who live by propaganda dies by propaganda.

Oga Ade go and sleep, Religion can never divide Yorubas, e dey pain you

MelesZenawi:


Muric is what?

Yoruba Arabia or Muslim yorubas?

Muric is an organization.

Sammy07:

Muric is an organization.

with Yoruba arm.

LegendHero:


You are definitely right. It’s inherent in us and one thing about us is that we don’t even know how much of a big deal that is.

When you see how people fight over religion and how much animosity that follows religious difference among some tribe and race, then you will appreciate the Yoruba tolerance more.

We have been blessed and we should guard our heritage proudly and make sure our generations never deviate from the religious love our ancestors bestowed upon us.

Couldn’t have said the last paragraph better myself, preserving our values and heritage is key...we must do so religiously, our culture and history is too rich to let it erode overtime.

MelesZenawi:

with Yoruba arm.

yes, CAN is also an organization, we also have penticoastals organization too

Sammy07:


yes, CAN is also an organization, we also have penticoastals organization too

Yoruba pentecostal churches is what killed christianity in nigeria. I am not a fan of them..

I am well rooted in the orthodox church....

una papa adeboye and oyedepo's should continue to deceive una....not interested.

LegendHero:


When did you suddenly became a Yoruba?

Ain't you proud of your Igbo heritage anymore?

I beg you, I don't want this thread to go the way of tribal slurs. If you don't have any meaningful thing to say, just observe behind the scenes.

my boy ele way?

LegendHero:

LOL.
Did I also edit your post in this?

those guys can do anything to express their stupidity.

MelesZenawi:


Yoruba pentecostal churches is what killed christianity in nigeria. I am not a fan of them..

I am well rooted in the orthodox church....

una papa adeboye and oyedepo's should continue to deceive una....not interested.

Oga, how many times will we tell you that, Yorubas are thinkers, we don't all think in the same way, there will be many people that will not think like that and will opt in for another possible solution.

The likes of kanu cannot control 1000, Yorubas, that the truth!

That Anglican and catholic dominate east doesn't mean they two are the best.

Shey Catholics that bow down to Mary or Anglican that faces the pulpit and bow down sometimes.
I went to Anglican so I know what I'm saying, tho they're very much preferable than Catholics.

And by the way, Yorubas ain't the one that started penticostals.
So what exactly are you saying?

Do you know how many Muslims in Yorubaland that have Christian spouses, parents, siblings, cousins, uncles, business associates and friends?


The Yorubas are tolerant because the Yoruba worldviews promote heterogeneity over homogeneity. Yorubas believe in diversifications of views.

Tranquillity360:
And you have to edit my quote just to cover the truth.

I can confidently say you are a muslim.


If not that we Yoruba christians always go for peace,i don't think our region will be peaceful as it is.

MelesZenawi:


Yoruba pentecostal churches is what killed christianity in nigeria. I am not a fan of them..

I am well rooted in the orthodox church....

una papa adeboye and oyedepo's should continue to deceive una....not interested.

Your orthodox pastor/rev/bishop too dey deceive you but you think say you sharp. Do you pay tithes and offering, if yes, then congratulations you’ve been hustled.

Christianity also is peganism, no different from Sango worship, it’s just the Roman/Euro version of it, that’s all. Islam is no better either but it’s good that Islam only recognises one God, unlike Christianity which recognises 3 gods lol haha

Where Islam goes wrong is it’s practice of Jihad and religious killings, what’s the difference btw Jihad and making human sacrifices?

Sammy07:


Oga, how many times will we tell you that, Yorubas are thinkers, we don't all think in the same way, there will be many people that will not think like that and will opt in for another possible solution.

The likes of kanu cannot control 1000, Yorubas, that the truth!

That Anglican and catholic dominate east doesn't mean they two are the best.

Shey Catholics that bow down to Mary or Anglican that faces the pulpit and bow down sometimes.
I went to Anglican so I know what I'm saying, tho they're very much preferable than Catholics.

And by the way, Yorubas ain't the one that started penticostals.
So what exactly are you saying?

they finished christianity in nigeria.

oyatz:
Do you know how many Muslims in Yorubaland that have Christian spouses, parents, siblings, cousins, uncles, business associates and friends?


The Yorubas are tolerant because the Yoruba worldviews promote heterogeneity over homogeneity. Yorubas believe in diversifications of views.

MelesZenawi should read this.

MelesZenawi:




they finished christianity in nigeria.

cared to explain how they did that?

As a matter of fact, most Yorubas (whether they go to church or mosques) haven't discarded their Traditional beliefs. They just modified them.

It took me many years to fully understand this concept.

Pentecostal Christianity and fanatic Islam has become a threat to such tolerance.

I'm a Christian, I have an uncle who converted to a Muslim out of freewill. Every year we travel to celebrate Ileya with him. Until we change to a Pentecostal church whose pastor started saying all sort about the feast, which my mum believe and had to stop us from the annual visit.

Sammy07:

MelesZenawi should read this.

what he wrote is a barefaced lie

MelesZenawi:




they finished christianity in nigeria.

Good. Christianity should’ve been dead on arrival.

[/quote][quote author=Lethal234 post=91862139]Yoruba's are theist, the psychological hold the traditional believe had on them is greater than what 70 years of colonisation could erode.

That belief has helped the yoruba's to associate with people that has different beliefs.

DuwaRepublic:


Your orthodox pastor/rev/bishop too dey deceive you but you think say you sharp. Do you pay tithes and offering, if yes, then congratulations you’ve been hustled.

Christianity also is peganism, no different from Sango worship, it’s just the Roman/Euro version of it, that’s all. Islam is no better either but it’s good that Islam only recognises one God, unlike Christianity which recognised 3 gods lol haha

Where Islam goes wrong is it’s practice of Jihad and religious killings, what’s the difference btw Jihad and making human sacrifices?

I don't who pastors are anyway.
even Islam is far much better than pentecoastal

oyatz:
As a matter of fact, most Yorubas (whether they go to church or mosques) haven't discarded their Traditional beliefs. They just modified them.

It took me many years to fully understand this concept.

[quote][/quote]
Total discarding the traditional beliefs is like rejecting your lineage and ancestry history, the more you are been told your history, the traditional belief will come up.

DuwaRepublic:


Good. Christianity should’ve been dead on arrival.

And I mean pentecostal churches. they commercialize and monetized christianity in nigeria.

True, we used to be very tolerant towards religion because its in our DNA, but some Yoruba people of today are becoming strange.

I have to firstly, complain about today's christians, most especially, the so called pentecostals. There religious doctrines are more or less like the islamic extremists. I could remember growing up in the late 70s abd early 80s in lagos, surulere to be precised, all religous festivities were celebrated by all irrespective of your religion. Our parents bought cloths for us to celebrate with our friends. I for one was born into a christian family, both parents, my maternal side are muslims while my paternals are majorly christian those in both there are some who are of different religions. We all celebrated together.

But what do we have today, the christians, who were the most tolerant then are the worse today. I still remember the way we always wait yo taste the foods brought to our house during salah and taste the delicious ram(meeen, that meat is sweeeeet). Then, we don't throw away any food because of fear of being poisoned or because of some religious beliefs but what do you have today. Some pastors openly preaching that you should not eat ram meat on salah days or you should not mix with 'uneven yoke'.

Meanwhile, marrying a muslim woman has always been a problem(especially in places like ilorin), though in lagos it was really that serious because of the 'civilization'.

By and large, the religious tolerant has really helped us as a people and I will wish this generation will open their eyes and not allow fundamentalist or extremists who preach what fovurs or boost their ego allow some foreign religions to bring our culture to ruins.

Realdeals:
Pentecostal Christianity and fanatic Islam has become a threat to such tolerance.


I'm a Christian, I have an uncle who converted to a Muslim out of freewill. Every year we travel to celebrate Ileya with him. Until we change to a Pentecostal church whose pastor started saying all sort about the feast, which my mum believe and had to stop us from the annual visit.

@bolded, very correct

[/quote]i[quote author=MelesZenawi post=91862658]finally there is no religious tolerance over there. it is a just media and paper sophisticated tolerance....

there is deep seated mistrust if not Muslims in lagos east won't be asking to occupying the senatorial seat...

akintola won't be questioning why ekiti has all her commissioners nearly Christian without sharing the slot 50:50.


those who live by propaganda dies by propaganda.

You failed to see the clear picture, in yoruba land, blood is thicker than water, family come's first, irrespective of your religion and beliefs, humanity comes first. The yoruba's will always respect your view but will never change from his/her way.
The yoruba's will never force a religion on you, we always belief in IPIN, KADARA ati AYANMO

aremuforlife:
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You failed to see the clear picture, in yoruba land, blood is thicker than water, family come's first, irrespective of your religion and beliefs, humanity comes first. The yoruba's will always respect your view but will never change from his/her way.
The yoruba's will never force a religion on you, we always belief in IPIN, KADARA ati AYANMO

Concise and correct.

Nothing to add or remove.

MelesZenawi:


And I mean pentecostal churches. they commercialize and monetized christianity in nigeria.

All churches commercialise and monetise Christianity, sit down there and continue to be mumu while your religious leaders are busy laughing to the bank, buying private jets. This goes on worldwide and not exclusive to Nigeria.

DuwaRepublic:


All churches commercialise and monetise Christianity, sit down there and continue to be mumu while your religious leaders are busy laughing to the bank, buying private jets. This goes on worldwide and not exclusive to Nigeria.

pentecostal churches rather..

Sammy07:


You're a Yoruba right?

What is the meaning of this statement

Oba waja
Akara ti tu sinu epo

And again, there is nothing like Yoruba Muslims or Yoruba Christians
I keep telling you, you can't divide Yorubas along religious lines , find another means.

gbagbe


Nko ni nkankan lati fi si o.

Tranquillity360:
gbagbe


Nko ni nkankan lati fi si o .

Lol, after you've asked your Yoruba friends.
Answer me nah.

The answer is simple.

What you wrote isn't correct
Stop using Google translator