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Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by OFFICIAL336: 1:00pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
seunmsg:Keep deceiving yourself |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by Guestlander: 1:02pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
OFFICIAL336: Anambra is Igala land. 2 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by Sammy07: 1:37pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
OFFICIAL336:lol, That means my mom is not a Yoruba? ![]() interesting. |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by MetaPhysical: 2:09pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
LegendHero: Yoruba is not religious, we are spiritual. When Islam came to Yorubaland we spiritualized it. We adhered to the spirit of Islam and observed its rituals far more deeper than others. When Christianity came to Yorubaland we spiritualized that also. Yoruba created African Church. We created Aladura. We created Cele. Even in Penetecostal and Evangelism we are at fore front. This is because we are a spiritual race. The opposite of religious tolerance is religious intolerance. A denial of diversity, a state of insufficiency. Yoruba is sufficient in its belief of God and divinities as well humanities. Those who are religious are deficient in the ethos of creation, life and death. They abuse it in extreme. Religious societies assume and impose authority over creation and life, destroy life indiscriminately and refuse to honor their dead. Yoruba believes strongly in the essence of gods and creation, in live & let live and honors ancestors via Egungun cult. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by TAO11(f): 2:12pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
LegendHero: Professor S. Adebanji Akintoye once made a statement (in a talk with the Dawn Commision) to the effect that in fact we actually rank #1 in the whole wide world in that regard. I am quite certain that his statement in that regard is backed by research studies. A scholar of his stature doesn’t make whimsical wishful statements. cc: Sammy07 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by Sammy07: 2:22pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
TAO11: True, Some countries need to emulate how Yoruba were able to live peacefully. BTW, I said it earlier that some men (black and white) came to Ondo town few years ago to do a research related to this. African studies department or so, cos we were given some survey to answer on paper. they also went to palace and I learnt they went to Ede earlier. 2 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by Sammy07: 2:23pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
MetaPhysical: Gbam! EOD. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by druxlazu: 2:26pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
If I had the opportunity which I pray God should give me, everybody born Yoruba soul will convert to Islam. If everyone cannot convert, then I will make sure Muslims are not under the rule of any religion except Islam or Ifa religion. Hypocrisy is when you say live and let live and everyday you are one of those insulting the government that they are corrupt and bad when you could easily let them to continue to steal till eternity and you should remain poor till eternity. Hypocrisy is when you say there should be tolerance when one religion allows people to walk nakedly and the other encourage modesty. Hypocrisy is when you say don't judge a thing till you know what's inside it and then you believe in what the western religion says in words but not reality. Islam shall triumph in Yoruba land and bring the light and bring Ile Ife the cradle of civilization back to Its Noble Glory. |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by bobowaja(m): 3:01pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
Sammy07:He should add Ekiti, Akoko, Ilaje, Ijesha, Egba etc to that list. Since it is not named Ekiti Yoruba or Akoko Yoruba then it is not Yoruba. These people logics beats me. So wack. |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by Sammy07: 3:02pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
bobowaja: Nah Apku full him brain 1 Like |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by OFFICIAL336: 3:08pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
Sammy07:By marriage not by birth. We know where Yoruba land starts and ends, and Lagos is never part of that. |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by bobowaja(m): 3:09pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
Sammy07:I won't be surprise if that is true. |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by Sammy07: 3:12pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
OFFICIAL336: lol, Okay go and redrew the map. I don't even have anything to say, continue wallowing in what you believe ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by Sammy07: 3:14pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
OFFICIAL336: My mom is ijebu, dad is Ondo. we reside in Ondo. So Ijebus are not Yorubas? ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by bobowaja(m): 3:21pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
OFFICIAL336:Okay u re right! Kape were loko iyawo ko le je ki a ri ona lo. ![]() ![]() 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by loopman: 3:26pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
The greatest injustice done to the Yorubas is bringing them into the Hausa/Fulani and Igbo mix, the two most religion intolerant group among the black race 4 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by loopman: 3:28pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
OFFICIAL336: Which Lagos ? The one you drew in Igbo land or the one deep into the Yoruba land ? 3 Likes
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Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by seunmsg(m): 3:34pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
OFFICIAL336: We are now in the 21st century and there is an ethnic group in south west Nigeria know as YORUBA. We love our name irrespective of the origin. If we don’t have any problem with our name, what then is your problem with it? 10 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by MetaPhysical: 3:48pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
seunmsg: Wa gba'yi! "Hit 'em back" gang! ![]() 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by MetaPhysical: 3:49pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
loopman: "Hit 'em back" gang! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by TAO11(f): 4:01pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
OFFICIAL336:Extant written accounts confirm that the name “Yoruba” (referring to a tribe) pre-dates the year 1613. This fact is further explored towards the end of my comment. Regarding etymology, available evidence suggest that this name must have begun as an Oyo hegemonic endonym — “Oyo r’ Oba”, that is: “Oyo is the king [among its peers]”. But in any case, the word "Ya.ri.ba" which you seem to be alluding to here (as is often alluded to by many pitiable Nairaland ignoramuses) is an European attempt at rendering the word "Yoruba". European misspellings/mis-articulations of indigenous ‘Nigerian’ words are not uncommon as is seen in some examples like “Beny”/“Benin” for ”Ubini”; “Jekri” for “Itsekiri”; and “Geebuu” for “Ijebu” among many others. In order that you may eventually be disillusioned from your present fantasies about the Yorubas, consider the fact that neither the word “Yoruba” nor the word “Ya.ri.ba” have any meaning whatsoever in the languages of the Hausa/Fulani peoples. ![]() In case you will insist on the contrary to the foregoing, then please ensure that you adduce some linguistic evidence from any authoritative bilingual lexicon of your choice. Aworis, Egun, Ijebu are not yorubas. You can kee yaself.I am of both Awori and Ijebu heritage. I am proudly Yoruba. ![]() What you fail to see here is the fact that you present yourself as very little and very ignorant by attempting to dissociate Awori and Ijebu from their Yoruba heritage. But I think I have an idea of what you’re trying hard to compensate for. ![]() Moreover, the following video shows Lagos and Ogun Awori kings and leaders paying their rightful homage at their shared cradle of Yoruba civilization (Ile-Ife) during the Olofin festival named after their ancestor (Olofin Ogunfunminire) who is said, in Awori accounts, to have led their migration from Ile-Ife to today’s Lagos and parts of Ogun States: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88-cG1nC8fM Regarding the Yoruba subgroup known as Ijebu, I am happy to enlighten you that there is no such thing as only one Ijebu kingdom. Rather, there are almost innumerable Ijebu kingdoms of which the Ijebu-Ode kingdom is only one. Some others include: Ijebu-Igbo, Ijebu-Ife, Ode-Omi, Ishagamu, Ishara, Ipara, Ikorodu, among several others. For all these Ijebu kingdoms, their extant traditional account maintains the general Yoruba position that they are a people whose respective kingdoms originate ultimately from Ile-Ife. Moreover, their respective currently reigning monarchs (except the currently reigning monarch of Ijebu-Ode who has something different to say about the Ijebu-Ode kingdom) all admit their respective traditional accounts. Regarding Ijebu-Ode particularly, it should be made clear that the only exception to the Ife origin account is the currently reigning monarch, Oba S.K. Adetona who was installed in the year 1960. Prior to the beginning of his reign, and even prior to his birth, the extant traditional account of Ijebu-Ode kingdom (which he has been attempting to overturn for interesting reasons) has always been that of three waves of migration from Ile-Ife. In fact, the extant traditional account of Ijebu-Ode which speaks of the migrations from Ile-Ife had long been captured into writing by the indigenous D.O. Epega in the year 1919, during the reign of Oba Adetona’s predecessor, some 15 years before Oba Adetona’s birth. Regarding the “Gun” (popularly known as “Egun” ), these are in fact not a Yoruba subgroup (even though some of them have dwelt interspersed around the frontier region of today’s ‘Nigeria’ and ‘Republic of Benin’, with heavy influences from the Yoruba group). Just as the Awori, Ijebu, or Oyo, etc. are a subgroup of the broader Yoruba ethno-linguistic group, the Gun (or Egun) are a subgroup of a broader ethno-linguistic group known as Aja (or Adja). Other subgroups (alongside the Gun) within the Aja ethno-linguistic group are the Allada and the Fon. Yoruba is a political alliance of abroginal settlers of western Nigeria to escape being classified as minoritiesReally?? Lol. Listen up: The Yoruba subgroups of today’s ‘Republic of Benin’ and ‘Togo’ such as: the Ketu, the Idasa, the Sabe, the Ahori, the Mahi, the Sha, and the Ife (of Togo) continue to self-identify till date as Yorubas. Are they also part of this so-called “PoLiTiCaL alLiAnCe” which you’ve miraculously come up with? And how? Moreover, the Yoruba subgroups of today’s ‘North Central Nigeria’ such as: the Owe, the Oworo, the Jumu, the Bunu, the Yagba, the Ikiri, etc. also continues to self-identify as Yorubas. Do they also belong to your so-called “PoLiTiCaL alLiAnCe”? And how? Lol. Now, if you care to get some education on this, then consider the following: (1) The first known written reference of the word “Yoruba” is found in the writings of then Timbuktu’s greatest scholar, Ahmad Baba al-Timbukti. This dates to the year 1613. By implication, he was referring to an ethnic group that had long pre-existed. In fact, to quote the words of Toyin Falola & Matt D. Childs from page 41 of their joint work “The Yoruba Diaspora in the Atlantic world”: “Yoruba has been a descriptive category for people speaking a common language in the interior of the Bight of Benin since at least the sixteenth century [i.e. the 1500s], and likely earlier still.” (2) Moreover, Professor R.C.C. Law has shown that the term “Nago” was an earlier endonym for this same group of people — the Yorubas. cc: Sammy07, bobowaja, loopman, seunmsg, MetaPhysical, 900winer. 16 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by loopman: 4:02pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
MetaPhysical: That is the only way to keep those deluded Ipob frauds at bay 5 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by 900winer(m): 4:12pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
druxlazu:[/s] 2 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by LegendHero(m): 4:16pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
MetaPhysical: Agba o ni tan lo rile. I understand the first two bolded clearly. Spirituality is one of the major reason why we exhibit the tolerance. When those religion came, we infused spirituality into them and make it more open to all Yorubas irrespective of religious creed. This allow those religion to be open to all Yorubas which explains why an Alhaja can go to Christian night vigil to pray and a Christian woman can visit an Alfa for prayers. Yorubas understood one thing that religion is about spirituality and we know God can be reached in multiple ways. That automatically make us see all religions in the sight of Love. 3 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by 900winer(m): 4:17pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
OFFICIAL336:Osu why don't you come to Mushin so you can tell us more about Lagos not been Yoruba, i wan't to learn more. 5 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by LegendHero(m): 4:23pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
TAO11: Thanks for this. We need to find a way to feature this Yoruba religious tolerance on frontline world media like CNN, BBC, and etc. There is a lot we can teach the world from the way we practice our own religion and how we have stood side by side with our brothers from other religious divide without animosity since the time of our ancestors. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by MetaPhysical: 4:25pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
loopman: I endorse this Sunday sermon! 2 Likes |
Re: Opinion: Why Do The Yorubas Exhibit High Level Of Religious Tolerance? by 900winer(m): 4:28pm On Jul 19, 2020 |
OFFICIAL336:Why don't you tell me the meaning of Yoruba in Hausa or Fulani language? you should be more concern about you and your forefathers who has no history, the likes of Ahmed Baba wrote about Yoruba in Oyo empire in 16th century when you ancestors were still runing around naked and canibalizing themselves. 9 Likes 1 Share |
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