ubunja:
agreed. That's why men need to keep learning about women and what makes them tick so as to manipulate them better and better. I'm all for this.

Sixfeetbelle:


But the majority of women don't want men without substantial wealth to their name, so who are those that these men can manipulate?

emmanuelewumi:



You are not a broke boy, keep the dreams alive and never give up

ubunja:
if women were unmovable on that point there wouldn't be poverty in the world. Everything has a loophole. Look close enough and you'll find a way.

Sixfeetbelle:
Let's do this.

Prior to writing this topic, I have been opportuned to view various writeups by other members who advise men not to date broke ladies or actually, ladies with entitlement mentality. And while the sagacious ones will pick the heart of the message and move on, the foolish ones will gather like crows to feast on the carcass, throwing insults and jabs like little boys that were denied treats at a Christmas party, thus picking nothing relevant from the post by the end of the day. I hope they know that It isn't the messenger's fault that comprehension is a difficult trait to acquire for some people.

Due to this behavioural menace, I have decided to tow a different path with my message today. Having said that, I'll like to reiterate for those hard of understanding that: Broke girls are cool to date but once she starts exhibiting entitlement mentality, end the relationship. To the ladies, I'll say this as well: Broke guys are cool to date but once he starts going on and on about prospects and dreams that look like castles in the air, please discard the relationship and move on. Since this thread is purposefully meant for the ladies, I'll give them reasons why I made that statement. Feel free to correct any mistakes you see and I'll rectify them. NB: Only corrections made without insults and/or jab will be considered.

[center]Characteristics of men without prospects[/center]

1) They are day dreamers: Inasmuch as I believe in struggling together with your man through his hard days, I always know human beings are fickle and loyalty isn't always rewarded. That said, some men who claim to be hustling are actually daydreamers who are too proud to work in the mud. They are hardly steady at any job, always dreaming and fantasising about the day they'll become millionaires or own a private jet or a mansion in banana island without actually making grand plans to achieve that. If care is not taken, it's very likely that he has changed jobs more than ten times in the past five years. While it's good to dream, it's best to have laid down plans that will connect your days of humble beginnings to your glorious future.

My take: Ladies, examine his prospects and see the viability of his dreams before making your decision.

2) They are charming: It always beats my imagination when I see visionless men get ladies so effortlessly. Then I realised the reason is because they're smooth talkers, as charming as a snake can be. I can't seem to understand the correlation between a passion for success and a need to swoon the ladies, and I believe that no man who is skillful in one will be that proficient in the other. While other men are hands and feet down in the mud striving to attain their future ambitions, his head and attention is buzzing like an antenna, waiting to pick up the next available lady, thus distracting him from achieving a single goal everytime.

My take: Ladies, take a good look at your relationship and recall how he wooed you. There are exceptions but a woman can always tell.

3) They are not loyal: Please, let's not dirty our minds and start imagining a cheating boyfriend, (although he may be one) rather, let's look at his life in general. He's never been in a position where his loyalty in life was tested. He's hardly the first child, thus never been in a position that makes him a core hustler. His siblings are doing much better than him, hence he may very likely live off of their crumbs. He's never had a successful relationship that ended due to health or tribal issues. They either ended due to his refusal to leave a job or his inability to keep one, more so the latter. It can be due to his inability to not avoid everything in skirt or his insecurity of the ladies' success as he'd be a trifle bit jealous of other's success as he can't seem to ever achieve his own. All in all, he's not one to trust to handle being the captain of the ship.

My take: Ladies, analyse him if you can and make your decision. But remember, dreamers who can't get what they want always end up jealous. He won't ever be that CEO he's always telling you about, not with the lackadaisical way he goes about it.

4) They are time wasters: This was supposed to be number one point, but the crows would have had a field day with my post if I did it that way. Anyway, men without prospects are invariably professional time wasters. No surprises there. And while their heart may be with you (they do know how to love greatly), they lack the wherewithal to do right by you in the appropriate time. Generally, they're never in a need to settle down or any of the other societal 'needs' that the rest of the population may desire because they lack the capacity to do so. Please do not confuse their inability to mean apathy. On the contrary, if they had their way, you'd be married to them before you can say Jack Robinson. However, their life will always be driven in whatever direction the wind takes them and when the dust finally settles, they'll find themselves approaching forty, with no reasonable evidence of their hustle in life and no lady by their side. Disclaimer: Not all men in that age gap were without prospects.

My take: Ladies, iron out your situation with him and see if you both can reach a compromise. If he won't accept outside help to start off your married life (highly unadvisable), drop him like hot coal. When he gets to 40, someone young will marry him.

Summary, ladies even as you strive to become independent, strong women, always weigh your options in every relationship you go into. Don't always sit and wait for the man to make his intentions known. Incite him to state his desires and see if they tally with yours. At the end, whoever you choose to date, always think of the future your children will have. Think of the children, sisters.

Thank you.

Sixfeetbelle:


You must be talking about other girls but not these present Nigerian girls. We need a comfortable life and I don't see how a guy with nothing can keep us under his thumb

Sixfeetbelle:


Explain the bold please.

Sixfeetbelle:


You must be talking about other girls but not these present Nigerian girls. We need a comfortable life and I don't see how a guy with nothing can keep us under his thumb

ubunja:
even though, if women have changed the game has to adapt. Trust me, there's always a way. It will be harder to find but it's findable. Even it means going after women with money.

Degrezhaa:


The great ubunja... is that you

ubunja:
bro what's up. Are you good?

ubunja:
I'm not sure I understand you.

Zabiboy:


If you become a millionaire next month, wont you be good in handling both money and women??

Degrezhaa:


Am doing good thanks to your miseducations

When do you intend to post new ones...

ubunja:
even though, if women have changed the game has to adapt. Trust me, there's always a way. It will be harder to find but it's findable. Even it means going after women with money.

ubunja:
you won't be. But you'll get a shitload of them.

emmanuelewumi:



Guys don't need leeches, when I was in the dating game I didn't give chance to ladies who could not add value to me.

I think broke girls should go for broke boys

Averagely successful guys should be rational and smart with their relationship with women. It should be a symbiotic association and not a parasitic association

It should be a synergy that will add value to both parties, so that they can derive the benefits of economies of scale.

ubunja:
I'm confused right now. I need to make my mind up about a lot of issues. I've plenty threads but I'm yet to decide what to do with them. Books or Threads?

And being a mind changing Gemini doesn't help.

Stephenomozzy:


Your opening argument says No lady should date a guy without prospects.

The part of my submission which you quoted in bold...seeks to agree with your motion but only if the lady who says she doesn't want a guy because he doesn't have prospects/potentials, she herself must have prospects too.

In other words, only seek in others that which you have in yourself already. It will be hypocritical for a gold digger to be picky with men, when she has no visions herself.

Ofcourse, it musn't be one side bringing possibilities to the table. Both sides should have enough self-development to better their lives mutually

Degrezhaa:


The great ubunja... is that you

Degrezhaa:


I think books would be better in the long run.. compared to threads and it would also reach more people...

Am also a Gemini.. sometimes that's how it is bro.. Hope you make the right choice though

Zabiboy:


I'm talking of you
Would you??

gods you are? Because you have prick?

COOL10:
.

Welcome back. How're you

ubunja:
I won't be good with women if I stumbled on money because I never learnt women.

Money doesn't change a man. It only amplifies and magnifies what he is. A Broke simp and a Rich simp are the same thing.

Mandela27:

Yo!

pcguru1:
Not to add to your post because it reeks of painting people as broke boys, There are some guys who just sit morning to night talking about babes, drinking and smoking all the time. it shocks me to see so many young guys doing this. There's money to be made.

Jezking:
Sixfeetbelle, you're a very interesting moniker sha, your name alone makes me laugh every single time. You don't hold back your emotions thats what I like about you although I feel you should try to tone it down a little. Don't insult people because the did insult you, it brings you down to their level and you don't want that, or do you

Anyway, immediately I saw the thread, I almost unfollowed you because I thought you were going to start trolling people's children

You kept it simple and civil to an extent, you're humble enough to take corrections if they are (na your type I for like marry sha)

You were absolutely on point for me, you nailed it!

As for those trolling you, they're just the example of what you talked about so don't be bothered about them at all. Don't even quote/mention them

Have a splendid week ahead

ubunja:
you know this.
Yes books are better. But let me think everything through.

Sixfeetbelle:


I agree. Ladies should survey a man for future prospects first before committing and even after committing and they find there's no headway, they should drop them fast and move on.

The popular excuse of "I will make it. My hustle will yield" can only stand for so long.

Sixfeetbelle:
Let's do this.

Prior to writing this topic, I have been opportuned to view various writeups by other members who advise men not to date broke ladies or actually, ladies with entitlement mentality. And while the sagacious ones will pick the heart of the message and move on, the foolish ones will gather like crows to feast on the carcass, throwing insults and jabs like little boys that were denied treats at a Christmas party, thus picking nothing relevant from the post by the end of the day. I hope they know that It isn't the messenger's fault that comprehension is a difficult trait to acquire for some people.

Due to this behavioural menace, I have decided to tow a different path with my message today. Having said that, I'll like to reiterate for those hard of understanding that: Broke girls are cool to date but once she starts exhibiting entitlement mentality, end the relationship. To the ladies, I'll say this as well: Broke guys are cool to date but once he starts going on and on about prospects and dreams that look like castles in the air, please discard the relationship and move on. Since this thread is purposefully meant for the ladies, I'll give them reasons why I made that statement. Feel free to correct any mistakes you see and I'll rectify them. NB: Only corrections made without insults and/or jab will be considered.

[center]Characteristics of men without prospects[/center]

1) They are day dreamers: Inasmuch as I believe in struggling together with your man through his hard days, I always know human beings are fickle and loyalty isn't always rewarded. That said, some men who claim to be hustling are actually daydreamers who are too proud to work in the mud. They are hardly steady at any job, always dreaming and fantasising about the day they'll become millionaires or own a private jet or a mansion in banana island without actually making grand plans to achieve that. If care is not taken, it's very likely that he has changed jobs more than ten times in the past five years. While it's good to dream, it's best to have laid down plans that will connect your days of humble beginnings to your glorious future.

My take: Ladies, examine his prospects and see the viability of his dreams before making your decision.

2) They are charming: It always beats my imagination when I see visionless men get ladies so effortlessly. Then I realised the reason is because they're smooth talkers, as charming as a snake can be. I can't seem to understand the correlation between a passion for success and a need to swoon the ladies, and I believe that no man who is skillful in one will be that proficient in the other. While other men are hands and feet down in the mud striving to attain their future ambitions, his head and attention is buzzing like an antenna, waiting to pick up the next available lady, thus distracting him from achieving a single goal everytime.

My take: Ladies, take a good look at your relationship and recall how he wooed you. There are exceptions but a woman can always tell.

3) They are not loyal: Please, let's not dirty our minds and start imagining a cheating boyfriend, (although he may be one) rather, let's look at his life in general. He's never been in a position where his loyalty in life was tested. He's hardly the first child, thus never been in a position that makes him a core hustler. His siblings are doing much better than him, hence he may very likely live off of their crumbs. He's never had a successful relationship that ended due to health or tribal issues. They either ended due to his refusal to leave a job or his inability to keep one, more so the latter. It can be due to his inability to not avoid everything in skirt or his insecurity of the ladies' success as he'd be a trifle bit jealous of other's success as he can't seem to ever achieve his own. All in all, he's not one to trust to handle being the captain of the ship.

My take: Ladies, analyse him if you can and make your decision. But remember, dreamers who can't get what they want always end up jealous. He won't ever be that CEO he's always telling you about, not with the lackadaisical way he goes about it.

4) They are time wasters: This was supposed to be number one point, but the crows would have had a field day with my post if I did it that way. Anyway, men without prospects are invariably professional time wasters. No surprises there. And while their heart may be with you (they do know how to love greatly), they lack the wherewithal to do right by you in the appropriate time. Generally, they're never in a need to settle down or any of the other societal 'needs' that the rest of the population may desire because they lack the capacity to do so. Please do not confuse their inability to mean apathy. On the contrary, if they had their way, you'd be married to them before you can say Jack Robinson. However, their life will always be driven in whatever direction the wind takes them and when the dust finally settles, they'll find themselves approaching forty, with no reasonable evidence of their hustle in life and no lady by their side. Disclaimer: Not all men in that age gap were without prospects.

My take: Ladies, iron out your situation with him and see if you both can reach a compromise. If he won't accept outside help to start off your married life (highly unadvisable), drop him like hot coal. When he gets to 40, someone young will marry him.

Summary, ladies even as you strive to become independent, strong women, always weigh your options in every relationship you go into. Don't always sit and wait for the man to make his intentions known. Incite him to state his desires and see if they tally with yours. At the end, whoever you choose to date, always think of the future your children will have. Think of the children, sisters.

Thank you.

iyke926:

If prick is what makes men gods, you must have a microscopic brain. No vex.

But lemme educate you on why men are gods. Men made the world that we live in liveable. When you enter/see a plane or a chopper always remember it was a man that made it, the cars you drive was designed and made by men, the electricity that runs in our society today was made possible by men, during a natural disaster...those sent out to help save lives during those incidents are still men, those heavy cargo ships that sail on seas..they were fvcking made by men. If only science could produce an artificial womb, most women won't be useful to men.

While most women daydream...fantasize about having something, men use their intellectual property to bring dreams into reality because men naturally have the ability to handle complex tasks effectively. Only a god called man can do that.

The world would have been in shambles, if left in the hands of women because women are programmed not to handle complex tasks and are generally classified as a weak human specie.

Over the centuries, human race evolved to what it is today because men with pricks decided to make it super cool using their intellectuals, perseverance, loyalty, hardwork and the inbuilt agression in us. Even if there was some input by women, it is very very little...like 3%. Think about it.

And what form of thanks do we gods get... none. Just nagging and complaining but indirectly displaying their insecurities and inferiority complex while seeking for the attention of man.

I'm out.