Blackking98:

Seconded
I school in unical.
In my department we have aniomas and Rivers igbos. The aniomas when Asked if they're Igbo will tell u yes they're Delta Igbo. But the ikwerres and others can behead you for calling them igbos. My departmental experience tho

It might take a long time to change that mentality but I believe it will change one day.we all know the truth.
The similarity with Igbos is just too close almost 80%my question for my rivers brothers is simple though I don't support break up of Nigeria unlike the southeast igbos but if it eventually happens who will the rivers igboid people go with, the Igbos or the ijaws and ibibio to become minorities in the Niger delta

Oghene1st:


We Urhobos don't force people to be part of us. We have since given the Isokos their freedom from the Urhobo nation even though there is no difference between the Isokos and the Urhobos culturally. The Isoko and Urhobo language are 99.9 percent the same. We have the same customs, we eat the same food, bear the same name, the same dressing but the Isokos said they don't want to be part of the Urhobo nation and we have given them freedom. We don't force people to be part of us sir unlike what the Igbos are doing to the Ikwerres. For your information, Urhobo and Isoko are much more similar than Igbos and Ikwerres but the Urhobos are not saying the Isokos are Urhobos and we have since put it in our minds that they are Isokos and not Urhobos.

So this thing is everywhere I notice the itshekiris too deny yorubas even though the similarity is 90%.

kollinzgee:


It might take a long time to change that mentality but I believe it will change one day.we all know the truth.
The similarity with Igbos is just too close almost 80%my question for my rivers brothers is simple though I don't support break up of Nigeria unlike the southeast igbos but if it eventually happens who will the rivers igboid people go with, the Igbos or the ijaws and ibibio to become minorities in the Niger delta

Well we Niger Deltans would prefer aniomas and ikwerre join igbos in biafra republic than joining us in niger Delta

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Don't be a fool. There are three senatorial districts n Delta. Delta Central is purely for Urhobos, Delta North for the Igbo groups and Delta South for Ijaw (majority), Isoko, Itsekiri and Urhobo.

The Deputy Senate President is from Delta Central.

The population of Urhobos in Delta Central alone is 1.5m+ which is higher than the whole of Igbo groups in Delta North. If we are to include the Urhobos in Delta South, then .....[/quote][/s] Mister man in your Delta central we still have itsekiri and okpe kingdom people there or are you including okpe kingdom as Urhobo? Mr man Urhobo are not the majority in Delta state, they can only be majority when you count enuani,ika and ukwuani people differently but if you count them together they're the majority.

oyatz:
Is this paper which could have been written by anybody superior to the Ogbakor Ikwerre declaration of 1963 which defined their ethnic group?

I hope you know that Ikwerres were part of the Calabar-Ogoja-Rivers (COR) Movement of the 1950s agitating for the creation of a separate Region for the Minorities in the defunct Eastern Region?

They also presented Memos to the Willinks Commission of 1959 to look into the fears of the fears of Minorities.

Wawa people were at the forefront of the creation of Enugu state, it does not make then any less Igbo. Ngwa people want Aba state, Nsukka people want Adada state. The fact that people want a separate administrative area does not take away who they are

Oghene1st:


We Urhobos don't force people to be part of us. We have since given the Isokos their freedom from the Urhobo nation even though there is no difference between the Isokos and the Urhobos culturally. The Isoko and Urhobo language are 99.9 percent the same. We have the same customs, we eat the same food, bear the same name, the same dressing but the Isokos said they don't want to be part of the Urhobo nation and we have given them freedom. We don't force people to be part of us sir unlike what the Igbos are doing to the Ikwerres. For your information, Urhobo and Isoko are much more similar than Igbos and Ikwerres but the Urhobos are not saying the Isokos are Urhobos and we have since put it in our minds that they are Isokos and not Urhobos.

Exactly, you don't see we ibibios forcing efiks in Cross river or Annang or Oro or eket even though we're atleast 80% the same. Everyone should be free to choose his path

Oghene1st:


We Urhobos don't force people to be part of us. We have since given the Isokos their freedom from the Urhobo nation even though there is no difference between the Isokos and the Urhobos culturally. The Isoko and Urhobo language are 99.9 percent the same. We have the same customs, we eat the same food, bear the same name, the same dressing but the Isokos said they don't want to be part of the Urhobo nation and we have given them freedom. We don't force people to be part of us sir unlike what the Igbos are doing to the Ikwerres. For your information, Urhobo and Isoko are much more similar than Igbos and Ikwerres but the Urhobos are not saying the Isokos are Urhobos and we have since put it in our minds that they are Isokos and not Urhobos.

Oga isoko and okpe are not Urhobo please accept that.

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mrvitalis:

I'm Igbo , I'm from imo ...etche is just close to ngo okpala were I have my farm ....i can over look ikwerri
But ndoni , etche , oyigbo ? These are all pure Igbo na

Amadioha shrine is in etche ...for heaven's sake

At Ozuzu yet people from Ozuzu , Etche pay annual homage to Umuneoha in Mbaitolu, LGA as their ancestral home and the place where the deity originated.

I am Igbo from Anambra. I only got to know that there are tribes called Etche, Ikwerre and Ekpeye because I am schooling in Uniport. Here in Onitsha nobody knows what is Ikwerre or Etche.

Oghene1st:


Don't be a fool. There are three senatorial districts n Delta. Delta Central is purely for Urhobos, Delta North for the Igbo groups and Delta South for Ijaw (majority), Isoko, Itsekiri and Urhobo.

The Deputy Senate President is from Delta Central.

The population of Urhobos in Delta Central alone is 1.5m+ which is higher than the whole of Igbo groups in Delta North. If we are to include the Urhobos in Delta South, then .....

More reason other tribes don't want you close. You people have this inbuilt domineering spirit where it is not needed.

It just plain idiocy for people to use territorial delimitation for governmental purposes as a dictate of ethnicity.

MinorityOpinion:


Igbos elder know everything but intentionality hide the tribal mark stuff or that further prove they are not Igbos , at the bolded, you are very wrong.

Did you not hear of the Nigeria -India 99-1 nonsense was it not ignorant elders that told you that nonsense before you learnt it was a lie althrough .
Should I mention the hundreds of lies elders told you as fact where as there were lies.
Just keep shut if you don't have anything reasonable to say.

Blackking98:

Seconded
I school in unical.
In my department we have aniomas and Rivers igbos. The aniomas when Asked if they're Igbo will tell u yes they're Delta Igbo. But the ikwerres and others can behead you for calling them igbos. My departmental experience tho

You cannot expect a group of people who have changed their names from Umu to Rumu or Oma to easily accept to be Igbo. There was a post by selemempe on the eastern regional parliamentary secretaries in 1961. I saw one entry: J. O. Umolu [Igbo: Ikwerre]. In today's Ikwerre, the entry would have beeen J. O. Rumuolu or J. O. Omaolu. What a shame.

IkwerrePikin:


I doubt if you are Etche because as a Rivers man from Ikwerre, i know and have etchie friends who know their history which is not related to Igbo.

If you are truly etche then you’re a disgrace to etchie people. You went to the university in Lagos, instead of you to form your cultural group, you decided to join igbo cultural group. The etches in Rivers state universities do they have their own cultural group or join the igbos? Of course they have their own cultural group in Rivers state universities but yet you went to Lagos to betray your people that is why i doubt if you’re truly Etche.

Another thing is that, you lack true history. If you don’t know your history, then you don’t know where you come from, and that is your problem.

Ikwerre,Ekpeye, Ogba and Etche people are not Igbos and have never been Igbos.

The OP you quoted is Ipob from one of the five gully erosion ravaged states. He is not a Rivers man talk more of the ethnic group he claims. A frequent visitor to Nairaland should be able to discern their modus operandi by now. Their lifelong ambition has always been to steal the land and oil of Ikwere and other Rivers tribes which made 3 million of their ancestors perish as a result of their greed.

Blackking98:

Well we Niger Deltans would prefer aniomas and ikwerre join igbos in biafra republic than joining us in niger Delta

Niger Delta ethnic groups includes the Ijaws, Ishekiris, Isoko, Urhobo, Kalabari, Bini, Edo, Igbo, Efik, Ibibio, Annang and etcetera all having different interests.
Do you even know what you are saying ?

Blackking98:

Exactly, you don't see we ibibios forcing efiks in Cross river or Annang or Oro or eket even though we're atleast 80% the same. Everyone should be free to choose his path

Has there being any time in the silly history of Nigeria when Efik, Annang, or Oro passed as Ibibio? The problem with Nigerians is the high tendency to give wrong analogy due to pressure from ethnic bias.

Jakemedg:
Niger Delta ethnic groups includes the Ijaws, Ishekiris, Isoko, Urhobo, Kalabari, Bini, Edo, Igbo, Efik, Ibibio, Annang and etcetera all having different interests.
Do you even know what you are saying ?

Yes I'm an ibibio boy.
I've spent all my life in calabar, I speak Efik more than my native ibibio even though the languages are the same.
Why are you splintering the ethnicities into tinier groups. Kalabari u mentioned is just another ijaw tribe. Efik,ibibio and Annang are the different tribes of the same ethnic group although we don't have an umbrella name.
And finally when we say Niger Delta republic we refer to ibibio,ijaw, urhobo,bini,etc. Adding Igbo or Yoruba makes it Niger Delta ministry or Niger Delta commission like u have rn.

Niger Delta republic we dream of is devoid of Igbo or Yoruba element. Please be guided.

35824L:
The OP you quoted is Ipob from one of the five gully erosion ravaged states. He is not a Rivers man talk more of the ethnic group he claims. A frequent visitor to Nairaland should be able to discern their modus operandi by now. Their lifelong ambition has always been to steal the land and oil of Ikwere and other Rivers tribes which made 3 million of their ancestors perish as a result of their greed.

A day without mentioning irrelevant ipob is a wasted day for you .This is not a Yoruba Vs Igbo thread. It's obvious you know nothing about etches, ikwerres, delta igbos also known as aniomas and other igbo clans so why don't you calm down and research on that using google or historical materials instead of displaying your ignorance here .

Blackking98:

Well we Niger Deltans would prefer aniomas and ikwerre join igbos in biafra republic than joining us in niger Delta

I know it will not take long time for your true color to show up on this discuss. Only a fool will think the term Niger Delta is an exclusive domain of certain ethnicities in the shithole called Nigeria. Even certain goons who claim Niger Delta have little or nothing in relationship with the river.

Dedetwo:


Has there being any time in the silly history of Nigeria when Efik, Annang, or Oro passed as Ibibio? The problem with Nigerians is the high tendency to give wrong analogy due to pressure from ethnic bias.

No there hasn't. And you've never seen us force them even though we're basically the same. Can you say the same of your people?

Dedetwo:


I know it will not take long time for your true color to show up on this discuss. Only a fool will think the term Niger Delta is an exclusive domain of certain ethnicities in the shithole called Nigeria. Even certain goons who claim Niger Delta have little or nothing in relationship with the river.

Like who?
Why are you so dreamful of Biafra yet you get really uneasy when Niger Delta is mentioned? So me as an ibibio boy has nothing to do with the ocean or rivers? Or the ijaws? Or the ogonis? Or the urhobo?

Blackking98:

Yes I'm an ibibio boy.
I've spent all my life in calabar, I speak Efik more than my native ibibio even though the languages are the same.
Why are you splintering the ethnicities into tinier groups. Kalabari u mentioned is just another ijaw tribe. Efik,ibibio and Annang are the different tribes of the same ethnic group although we don't have an umbrella name.
And finally when we say Niger Delta republic we refer to ibibio,ijaw, urhobo,bini,etc. Adding Igbo or Yoruba makes it Niger Delta ministry or Niger Delta commission like u have rn.

Niger Delta republic we dream of is devoid of Igbo or Yoruba element. Please be guided.

Wait a minute please when you hear "Igbo " do you think it's South Easterners or igbos from the east side only ?
Do you think by mentioning "Igbo " I'm referring to people from the SE?
As for Yoruba well there's no single Yoruba clan in SS apart from the NC?

I've seen igbanke people that deny being Igbo even when dere name clearly state Igbo

Jakemedg:
Wait a minute please when you hear "Igbo " do you think it's South Easterners or igbos from the east side?
Do you think by mentioning "Igbo " I'm referring to people from the SE?

You're referring to your anioma brothers and igbos in the SS so I know what you're saying.
I'm now telling you that ijaws, ibibios, urhobo,etc if by chance we agree to form Niger Delta republic we'd love to form it without aniomas or other Igbo groups in the SS. Read and understand

Etinosa1234:
I've seen igbanke people that deny being Igbo even when dere name clearly state Igbo

Yes bro that's true though i have come across few Igbanke people who feel they're Igbos but like to be called "Bendel Igbos " .

Jakemedg:
Yes bro that's true though i have come across few Igbanke people who feel they're Igbos but like to be called "Bendel Igbos " .

Yeah..they clearly don't wanna be associated with the South east for reasons I don't know...

One was bearing a Benin surname and an Igbo Middle name...

I asked him weda he was Benin...No
what of Igbo....No

Wetin he come be.... Igbanke...

Omo...I Jus weak

OfoIgbo:


And the current Ohanaeze secretary general is an Ikwerre man.

I'm not trying to force the Ikwerres into the Igbo group though

No one is forcing anyone to be Igbo. You don't choose your ethnic origin. You can choose what group you identify with though. Today, the opportunities that come with identifying as Igbo is so enormous that any Igbo clan that does otherwise will be suffocating itself. The few Ikwerres that have left Rivers state will easily see this just like Amaechi. Even outside Nigeria, all these Igbo clans easily blend in and make things easier for themselves. Only local folks domiciled entirely in Rivers still revel in those post Biafran war tales of survival. Igbos have risen to success all over the world through sheer hardwork and the grace of God. It's obvious and audible to all. Therefore, our saying that Ikwerres are Igbos isn't borne out of anything apart from ancestry and language. For God sake, what do I gain from claiming Ikwerres are Igbos? Nothing. It doesn't put food on my table nor open doors for me. Why didn't I claim the same for Ogonis and Andonis? Simply because they're not Igbos. The Kalabaris despite the level of intermarriage are still not called Igbos because they're not.

Blackking98:

You're referring to your anioma brothers and igbos in the SS so I know what you're saying.
I'm now telling you that ijaws, ibibios, urhobo,etc if by chance we agree to form Niger Delta republic we'd love to form it without aniomas or other Igbo groups in the SS. Read and understand

That's why I'm asking why do you feel they aren't part of the SS?.
That you are an Ijaw in Ondo, Rivers and not Bayelsa (Predominantly Ijaw land) doesn't make you less Ijaw.

Blackking98:

You're referring to your anioma brothers and igbos in the SS so I know what you're saying.
I'm now telling you that ijaws, ibibios, urhobo,etc if by chance we agree to form Niger Delta republic we'd love to form it without aniomas or other Igbo groups in the SS. Read and understand

When did ijaw and ibibio agree?where was the meeting held? You guys will never seize to amaze me I don't support biafra neither do I support Niger delta.Niger delta is dead on arrival and can never work you think anyone want to live in country where ijaws will be majority with the land grabbing tendencies people who claim almost all the coastal lands and rivers in Nigeria. that what I said earlier people are not realistic with themselves.

Blackking98:

You're referring to your anioma brothers and igbos in the SS so I know what you're saying.
I'm now telling you that ijaws, ibibios, urhobo,etc if by chance we agree to form Niger Delta republic we'd love to form it without aniomas or other Igbo groups in the SS. Read and understand

Agreed 100%. My advice is to start pushing for it at present. Nigeria is dead already. Don't foot drag about it. Good luck on your Niger Delta republic.

Etinosa1234:


Yeah..they clearly don't wanna be associated with the South east for reasons I don't know...

One was bearing a Benin surname and an Igbo Middle name...

I asked him weda he was Benin...No
what of Igbo....No

Wetin he come be.... Igbanke...

Omo...I Jus weak

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Guy no be only you i swear.

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