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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 10:42pm On Jul 21, 2020
Fkhalifa:

Your health is Paramount baba, you are approaching 60, you need to enjoy soccer before old age comes finally.

Well, I don talk my own o

Elegbon Agba!!!! 60 lohun lohun? Baba we be young blood for here oh!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 11:10pm On Jul 21, 2020
Roland17:


Elegbo Agba!!!! 60 lohun lohun? Baba we be young blood for here oh!
Just teasing. tongue.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 11:13pm On Jul 21, 2020
Roland17:


Elegbo Agba!!!! 60 lohun lohun? Baba we be young blood for here oh!
who they teach you yoruba
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 11:25pm On Jul 21, 2020
iamoyindamola:
who they teach you yoruba

Haha...

Aburo, I was born in Lagos and speak Yoruba fluently. I used to write better than I do now but I have lost quite bit of that skill.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:37am On Jul 22, 2020
Roland17:


Baba you can't play a front 3 of CF! Arteta blew it with that player selection.
He has FA cup final. Besides there's zero creativity in the entire squad in the middle
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:44am On Jul 22, 2020
nani667:
Jus lookat AFC
Don't worry, we will give you water from Bravos, Las Las you go dey alright

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 12:42pm On Jul 22, 2020
Fkhalifa:

Abegi, Artrta has improved him, don't you see teams are scared to attack and defend against him undecided

Bro, you 3 like sarcasm sha...

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 12:45pm On Jul 22, 2020
kokaneprodigy:

He would have been a bouncer but football pays more

In all honesty a lot of deadwoods still in that team parading as a players where as they were tennis player underneath...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 1:59pm On Jul 22, 2020
Akinbahm:


Bro, you 3 like sarcasm sha...
Meanwhile, Are are 16th in the league in terms of chances created,and to think everyone thinks the entire problem is defence.This is the worst Arsenal have finished in 55yrs.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 2:21pm On Jul 22, 2020
Fkhalifa:

Meanwhile, Are are 16th in the league in terms of chances created,and to think everyone thinks the entire problem is defence.This is the worst Arsenal have finished in 55yrs.
I agree but kokaneprodigy won't grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 2:46pm On Jul 22, 2020
iamoyindamola:

I agree but kokaneprodigy won't grin
He is sifia pains, he won't just admit.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 2:52pm On Jul 22, 2020
Fkhalifa:

He is sifia pains, he won't just admit.
Serious pain
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 2:54pm On Jul 22, 2020
iamoyindamola:

I agree but kokaneprodigy won't grin
How?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 2:54pm On Jul 22, 2020
kokaneprodigy:

How?
Are you in sifia pain or not cheesy
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 3:00pm On Jul 22, 2020
Fkhalifa:

Meanwhile, Are are 16th in the league in terms of chances created,and to think everyone thinks the entire problem is defence.This is the worst Arsenal have finished in 55yrs.

Roland17 food is here for u...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 4:16pm On Jul 22, 2020
Akinbahm:


Roland17 food is here for u...

I no dey chop "Ebo Eje"!

We won the game against City and Liverpool because of our defense, not because we scored goals.

As I said, I no dey chop Ebo, pass am to others.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 4:24pm On Jul 22, 2020
This is what happens when your team set up with CFs and CMs to attack, also when you have no quality AM/LW/RW with balls,vision and ability to drive and open/break oppositions.

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 9:33pm On Jul 22, 2020
Fkhalifa:
This is what happens when your team set up with CFs and CMs to attack, also when you have no quality AM/LW/RW with balls,vision and ability to drive and open/break oppositions.
A weak defence will not allow creative players to act. They would often be forced to track back instead of pushing forward. A good case is Ceballos, despite having the nous to make defense splitting passes, he is often forced to stick to DM because once he leaves there the chances of conceding becomes high.

When you watch our match against City, Pep brought in Fernandinho even when he was searching for a goal. He knows that with F. covering the defensive line, KDB and Sterling wouldnt be looking backwards.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 6:15am On Jul 23, 2020
Spy360:

A weak defence will not allow creative players to act. They would often be forced to track back instead of pushing forward. A good case is Ceballos, despite having the nous to make defense splitting passes, he is often forced to stick to DM because once he leaves there the chances of conceding becomes high.

When you watch our match against City, Pep brought in Fernandinho even when he was searching for a goal. He knows that with F. covering the defensive line, KDB and Sterling wouldnt be looking backwards.
Wengay team over the years have weaker defence compare to present, I don't agree with your post.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 6:29am On Jul 23, 2020
iamoyindamola:

Wengay team over the years have weaker defence compare to present, I don't agree with your post.
Liverpool scored 5 yesterday, and I still dey read from a fan Complaining, Sallah was a flop in the game that he could have buried 4 chances.
I.e, Aside scoring 5 in a big game, they still create numerous goal scoring chances.

Now that's an attack covering for bad defensive performance of the day.

On the contrary, Arsenal will pass to the side,back,side,back to Luiz who will then play long ball to the opposition goalie, then struggle to score from Auba and Saka's creativity.

Then go back to passing for another long period of time, only for the opposition to mount pressures which our defenders would resist/combat, but eventually capitulate and concede from one/two errors of the defenders.

And gbam everyone makes the defenders as the scapegoat.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 6:35am On Jul 23, 2020
Fkhalifa:

Liverpool scored 5 yesterday, and I still dey read from a fan Complaining, Sallah was a flop in the game that he could have buried 4 chances.
I.e, Aside scoring 5 in a big game, they still create numerous goal scoring chances.

Now that's an attack covering for bad defensive performance of the day.

On the contrary, Arsenal will pass to the side,back,side,back to Luiz who will then play long ball to the opposition goalie, then struggle to score from Auba and Saka's creativity.

Then go back to passing for another long period of time, only for the opposition to mount pressures which our defenders would resist/combat, but eventually capitulate and concede from one/two errors of the defenders.

And gbam everyone makes the defenders as the scapegoat.
Don't mind him, Barcelona dominated with useless backline. They even had pinto(hairdresser) in goal, Chelsea defence is worse than arsenal this season with a stupid keeper yet they are scoring for fun
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 6:42am On Jul 23, 2020
Fkhalifa:

Liverpool scored 5 yesterday, and I still dey read from a fan Complaining, Sallah was a flop in the game that he could have buried 4 chances.
I.e, Aside scoring 5 in a big game, they still create numerous goal scoring chances.

Now that's an attack covering for bad defensive performance of the day.

On the contrary, Arsenal will pass to the side,back,side,back to Luiz who will then play long ball to the opposition goalie, then struggle to score from Auba and Saka's creativity.

Then go back to passing for another long period of time, only for the opposition to mount pressures which our defenders would resist/combat, but eventually capitulate and concede from one/two errors of the defenders.

And gbam everyone makes the defenders as the scapegoat.
This have been my point since that's making me say our defence isn't as bad as it's been painted. All these things is just media. I hardly see us create and fluff numerous chances, we feed on scraps, yet it's the defence that concedes 1-2 goals per match that's the issue. Everybody will love Liverpool's game ystdy saying they scored 5 goals neglecting that they conceded 3. The day we start creating chances and scoring goals then we start committing errors consistently in defence is the day I'll join the "we need new CBs urgently" bandwagon
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 6:49am On Jul 23, 2020
Spy360:

A weak defence will not allow creative players to act. They would often be forced to track back instead of pushing forward. A good case is Ceballos, despite having the nous to make defense splitting passes, he is often forced to stick to DM because once he leaves there the chances of conceding becomes high.

When you watch our match against City, Pep brought in Fernandinho even when he was searching for a goal. He knows that with F. covering the defensive line, KDB and Sterling wouldnt be looking backwards.
Ceballos is a deep lying playmaker for arsenal. He isn't an Am. In fact, I think he's more of a cm than Am as a player. That's why I said we need an Am. To be fair, on the bolded, I think it's the reverse. It's a good midfield and attack that make an average defence look good, cos defence won't be under unnecessary pressure. The creative players will do their work cos they know they'll see more of the ball, so they'll be focused on attacking.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:19am On Jul 23, 2020
wman:
Chelsea has conceded 54 goals this season. That's more than Brighton and Hove who are 16th on the table.
See this??.
There's a difference why we're 10th and they're 4th on the log and I don't think it's due to defence
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Akinbahm(m): 9:22am On Jul 23, 2020
Jodera:
See this??.
There's a difference why we're 10th and they're 4th on the log and I don't think it's due to defence

They are on 4th because their attackers are deadly upfront...

If Chelsea need to compete for the league next season all they just needed is to get a decent defence who will support the work of the attackers from being capitulated...

In conclusion good attackers would earn u Top4 and ur defense wins the league for u so easy.


Jodera:
The day we start creating chances and scoring goals then we start committing errors consistently in defence is the day I'll join the "we need new CBs urgently" bandwagon

I seconded you with this...
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:33am On Jul 23, 2020
Akinbahm:


They are on 4th because their attackers are deadly upfront...

If Chelsea need to compete for the league next season all they just needed is to get a decent defence who will support the work of the attackers from being capitulated...

In conclusion good attackers would earn u Top4 and ur defense wins the league for u so easy.




I seconded you with this...
The bolded have been my thoughts right from beginning. That's what I've been telling Spy and Roland.
Good midfield + Good attack + average defence will get you top 4.

Good midfield + Good attack + Good defence will get you league or a title contender

Average midfield + Average attack + Good defence will get you top 6-10
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 5:02pm On Jul 23, 2020
Jodera:
The bolded have been my thoughts right from beginning. That's what I've been telling Spy and Roland.
Good midfield + Good attack + average defence will get you top 4.

Good midfield + Good attack + Good defence will get you league or a title contender

Average midfield + Average attack + Good defence will get you top 6-10
The bolded is everything in thi discussion.

Meanwhile, Arsenal's is Average attack+Average+Midfield+Average defence =
6-10.
So Arsenal still need a top class AM and LW, I don't and can't trust/risk them Saka,Martinelli and Willock for a whole season, they should rather be eased in.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:28pm On Jul 23, 2020
Jodera:
Ceballos is a deep lying playmaker for arsenal. He isn't an Am. In fact, I think he's more of a cm than Am as a player. That's why I said we need an Am. To be fair, on the bolded, I think it's the reverse. It's a good midfield and attack that make an average defence look good, cos defence won't be under unnecessary pressure. The creative players will do their work cos they know they'll see more of the ball, so they'll be focused on attacking.
Chelsea lost to Liverpool despite scoring 3 at Anfield.

We beat City because Luiz was MOTM. Our tight defensive structure ensured that the attack was potent.

You see, I love good attackers but football is not about scoring it's really about not conceding. Because when you don't concede, you will never lose a game.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:29pm On Jul 23, 2020
iamoyindamola:

Wengay team over the years have weaker defence compare to present, I don't agree with your post.
The 'Wengay' teams that won titles have great defence. You should agree to this one.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:31pm On Jul 23, 2020
Fkhalifa:

Liverpool scored 5 yesterday, and I still dey read from a fan Complaining, Sallah was a flop in the game that he could have buried 4 chances.
I.e, Aside scoring 5 in a big game, they still create numerous goal scoring chances.

Now that's an attack covering for bad defensive performance of the day.

On the contrary, Arsenal will pass to the side,back,side,back to Luiz who will then play long ball to the opposition goalie, then struggle to score from Auba and Saka's creativity.

Then go back to passing for another long period of time, only for the opposition to mount pressures which our defenders would resist/combat, but eventually capitulate and concede from one/two errors of the defenders.

And gbam everyone makes the defenders as the scapegoat.
The best attack won. But if Chelsea had a solid defence, they probably would have won 3-0. #fact
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 5:32pm On Jul 23, 2020
Spy360:

The 'Wengay' teams that won titles have great defence. You should agree to this one.
I quoted you for saying arsenal midfielders were helping the defence that's why they don't help in attack whereas they are the one exposing the defence in the first place.
Opponents don't have business with arsenal defence if the midfield was good like wengay trophy less days
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:34pm On Jul 23, 2020
iamoyindamola:

Don't mind him, Barcelona dominated with umyseless backline. They even had pinto(hairdresser) in goal, Chelsea defence is worse than arsenal this season with a stupid keeper yet they are scoring for fun
Refer to the post above.

Don't even mention Barcelona. angry

They've had Pique, Abidal, Puyol, Alves, some of the best defenders in Spain.

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