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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:08pm On Jul 23, 2020 |
Zzor: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() If only you knew the many sleepless nights vigils it took Johnw TRIUNE IDOLS WORSHIPPER to fashion out his new ringtone 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:15pm On Jul 23, 2020 |
Ken4Christ: 1 Corinthians 15:44-50..... Still dey your Bible? |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:35pm On Jul 23, 2020 |
Janosky: mumu dimwit fraud jw janosky lies and nonsense like that and siding with other liars is all you have: Pro_26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly. 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:38pm On Jul 23, 2020 |
Maximus69: it is with me, not with you satan's mob: Luk 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. Luk 13:25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:46pm On Jul 23, 2020 |
Zzor: fatty lie lie rozz all of that your lies is tormenting you so much, laughing but don't worry it will never end, ha ha so deserving Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 5:04am On Jul 24, 2020 |
Life sucks man-you can't have everything you want-if you think the Watchtower will get you into wherever you believe you are going, then the Watchtower it is-but if you can't see beyond your mental state of mind-what more can anybody do for you. If I choose to believe in the trinity-then it's up to me. I believe only because I have studied to believe-I see the light in the trinity-where in your case-darkness have blinded you-I see the Father in Spirit working through His Son-visa versa-but if you can't see that-then your hell awaits you.. Maximus69: 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 7:20am On Jul 24, 2020 |
brocab: I believe in the Father ~ Jehovah I believe in the Son ~ Jesus I believe God's active force (Holy Spirit) works in God's servants. I know how to explain myself and what happened in the Bible account where the Jehovah and Jesus were mentioned and i know how to explain what will be the result if God's holy spirit is present in a gathering. But as for this your TRINITY it doesn't appear in any part of the scriptures so God can't and will never blame anyone for what is not found written in his word nor will he condemn anyone for what you can't prove by evidence! So if you're still bent on this your TRINITY it's OK, but i'm not interested in a concept that you can't point to any group of persons amongst whom it's working out something benefitial! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 7:22am On Jul 24, 2020 |
johnw47: It's OK! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 9:45am On Jul 24, 2020 |
Maximus69: it is with us christians but it's not with you false jw blinded habitual liars: 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:04am On Jul 24, 2020 |
johnw47: Na wa o! ![]() I said it's OK! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 10:12am On Jul 24, 2020 |
Maximus69: and i said: johnw47: |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:55am On Jul 24, 2020 |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 1:45pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Janosky:lol,dont mind the fake wealthy pastor johnw47 |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 1:50pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 1:54pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Maximus69:infact I enjoy looking for his troubles lol. Weldone sir |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Ken4Christ: 9:54pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Janosky: Sure and it confirms my point. Our natural bodies will be transformed into a spiritual body. Only God can do that. He won't throw away your natural body but will transform it in the same way the body of Jesus was not thrown way. It was transformed. Dry bones that no longer have flesh will receive new bodies. That is why he is God. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Ken4Christ: 9:55pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
DappaD: It is better experienced. Give your life to Christ and receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit and you will thank me later for showing you the way to experience the supernatural life in Christ Jesus. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:45pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Zzor: I will tell daddy and mommy that you're causing trouble on Nairaland so they should ban you from login on this forum! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:46pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Maximus69:They now know I'm here and doesn't see anything wrong with it.lol |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:47pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Ken4Christ: Someone is asking for result, you're telling him to go through your fallacious nonsense and ingredients! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:49pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Zzor:Yeeeeeee see this small girl! ![]() So you never sleep! ![]() I purposely responded late so that you can see it much later, but it's like you're expecting it! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:51pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Maximus69:yes,i wonder what's keeping my sd awake by this time too |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 11:00pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Zzor: Tomorrow is the party so everyone is around as if we shouldn't sleep till dawn, the bachelors are still here feasting on the asun (goat meat). They made my day today making me feel like becoming the young groom again! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 11:07pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Maximus69:lol,you had your time in full,its time for the young groom to have his own |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:12pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Zzor: most duh fatty lie lie rozz your opinion doesn't carry any weight but your skelton certainly does, laugh and as for your continual lying, don't worry you will meet your god soon enough: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 11:16pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Zzor:You can say that again my dear! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 11:26pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Ken4Christ: Capital NO! Can you please show me fruitage of this your ‘Holy Ghost’ ? Remember only good trees produce fine fruit, whereas rotten trees produce worthless fruits. (Matthew 7:17,18) So if you think you're in this ‘good trees’ category, then you shouldn't have a problem mentioning your religious group where this your ‘spirit’ is working among ALL its adherents and bringing them to one line of thought? 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:51pm On Jul 24, 2020 |
Zzor: Pro_15:2b but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness. lie lie rozz you say you love my trouble but not long ago you was having trouble and ran away you came back with another username "zzor" laughing and said it wasn't you and that you didn't even know rozz, ha ha ha well rejoice most duh rozz, because a lying fool's trouble is never ending: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 2:27am On Jul 25, 2020 |
When three bodies become one-we have a trinity- it's up to you-if you choose not to believe in the scriptures. In answer to your question we need to identify what parts of the Bible declares that there is one God, and where it states that the Father is God, the Son is God and the Holy Spirit is God. The Father is God. (Matthew 6:8, 7:21, Galatians 1:1) Jesus is God from the beginning (John 1: 1-18) The Holy Spirit is God (John 15:26, Mark 3:29, 1 Corinthians 6:19). This is a a hard concept to visualize. We discover more about who God is as we look at the whole Bible. We may not fully grasp everything God reveals about Himself, but nevertheless, our inabilities doesn’t limit the truth of who he is. And remember, we have to come to grips that the Bible does not contradict itself. 1) The Bible has always said there is one God: “Hear O’ Israel the Lord our God, the Lord is one.” (Deut 6:4) Jesus even confirms this in all that he says and teaches (Mark 12:29-30) There are occasions when God refers to himself in plural terms (Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7, Isaiah 6: ![]() The choice is your's, if you can't believe this-then your recognition of anything concerning the bible-is nil... We cannot conclude from this that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are independent Gods, because the Bible says there is ONE God. Additionally, if we conclude that they are three independent Gods then we have broken the first of the 10 commandments in the Bible - “You shall have no other gods besides me.” (Deut 5:7). So, it stands to reason that they cannot be independent. How do we know this? Jesus explains it in {John 14 - 17} To summarize Jesus says"I and the Father are one” (John 10:38, 17:11,21) “I am in the Father and the Father is in me” (John 14:11) . This means Jesus and the Father must be the same God but distinct. Now let’s consider what Jesus says about the Holy Spirit: “I will send the Spirit of truth” for he lives with and will be in you” I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you”. (John 14:17-18, 20) Now we have to solve this riddle: How can the Father and Son be within each other at once? How can the Son and the Holy Spirit be in me at once? The answer is: Only if they are one and the same yet distinct persons. And it stands to reason as we put together these facts that they are the same God, but different persons. Can I reassure with the following: it doesn’t matter if we can’t imagine how this works in our minds! It is perplexing because there is nothing we have seen physically in our lives that can accurately illustrate this mystery. However, it is important to realize it is an eternal truth which the Bible has revealed to us! It’s not man made. Maximus69: |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 6:17am On Jul 25, 2020 |
brocab: The underlined is what we need in all these your lengthy epistle Sir! The word TRINITY is not found written anywhere in the scriptures, so it's doesn't sound reasonable insisting that people must believe in it. Moreover God's word says the evidence to know or IDENTIFY those worshiping God in spirit and truth is LOVE, JOY,PEACE,PATIENCE,GOODNESS, KINDNESS,FAITH,MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL will be permeating their gathering! Galatians 5:22-23 Since these qualities belongs to God there has never been any imperfect human who has been able to exhibit all these qualities, but in the gathering of God's people it must be evident because he's in their midst! There is no group of Trinitarians where these qualities is operating, making TRINITY completely a fruitless fallacy! James 2:18-26 ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 2:07pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Omo, social distancing is wahala o! Thank God i got married when there is no such thing, even the couple had facemasks on each time they're outdoor until we are safely back home! |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 2:10pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Maximus69:hmm,thats not so bad,safety measures is very important now.But wedding this time around saves money and stress,left for me ooo, I prefer a very quiet wedding with very few people |
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