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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by OgogoroFreak(m): 3:53pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
LandMann:Does your quote add money to my account? Who cares if you quote or not?? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 3:56pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Total bank loan as at March 2019 was over N15 Trillion.
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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by LandMann: 3:57pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Godbpraised: Sukuk is a bad deal. For example, if you buy gold now and keep with the money, you will earn more than you will earn from sukuk by the time sukuk of now matures. That's the only certain investment I know won't backfire. Others involve you doing your due diligence and starting or investing in a business that would pay you above 14% which is the official inflation rate... or above 20% which is the closer to the unofficial inflation rate. Alternatively, you can look for excellent financial advisors to advise you if you have a significant amount. The fee you will pay them, provided their advise is solid, is certainly going to be a fraction of what you stand to lose in sukuk. 1 Like |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:02pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
What some of us don't realize is that we also have a lot foreign Investors buying Nigerian fixed income Investments. 8 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by maishai: 4:04pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
LandMann:This would sound like music only to those who have never lost money 7 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by talk2tonie: 4:06pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
I have noticed that some persons whom I will refer to as “Real Economy Advocate” Usually come to this thread once in a while to advocate for investing in the real economy. While I some times enjoy the argument for and against because it is educating; please note that some of us here prefer to invest in fixed income, equity and real estate because we are salary earners; and do not have time for business since it requires our presence. There is a difference between business and investment. Obviously, investment does not require much of our time. Kindly let us invest in peace, we will go into the real economy for you when we have the time. 28 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:11pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
IyaTola: What do you have in your investment portfolio eg bonds, money market, Eurobonds, real estate, equity, small business etc. For now I am very bullish about the stock market. So I will advise selling half at N10 million. The remaining bond will generate an annual coupon of N1 million for the next 16 years Zenith bank, UBA, APR, United Capital will give you a dividend yield of 15% and above. Dangote cement, Lafarge, Dangote sugar, Julius Berger will give you a dividend yield of about 12%. If you are considering investments that are linked to forex, you can consider Seplat and Airtel. Seplat paid dividend 2 months ago at $1 to N350. Airtel paid yesterday at $1 to N430 23 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:13pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
maishai: We have been there before. Experience is the best teacher Smart people learn from the experience of others 1 Like |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by LandMann: 4:16pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
emmanuelewumi: If this was true then Nigeria won't have such a challenge with inflation. For an economy to balance, Money supply = value of goods and services available. If money supply > value of goods and services available then it results is inflation. Majority of funds put into financial securities come from money not earned by production of goods and services in the real sector. This money where not earned from producing any good or service, else the economy will continue to run fine with low inflation. Majority of the funds you see there come from kickbacks from inflated contracts... outrightly embezzled funds that could have been used to provide a service or infrastructure somewhere... money earned from yahoo, scams and other illegal activities that doesn't result in producing real goods or services. This money end up chasing few goods, resulting in rising inflation.... This money also end up chasing few tbills resulting in over subscription thus leading to low interest. So Nigeria now has an ugly situation of low interest and high inflation which beats rational thinking because low interest should result in low inflation... or high inflation should result in high interest. For me, the only way out is an aggressive stimulation of the real sector plus an aggressive, and 100% sincere and effective war against corruption Modified For those who choose to read A and understand B, when I say real sector, it includes real estate and stocks. 3 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by maishai: 4:22pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
emmanuelewumi: I seriously want to use this opportuinity to advise anyone living in a city like Lagos never to invest in Agriculture except such persons grew up in the village...............................Else Such persons would learn the true nature of Agriculture BRUTALLY, I laugh when people quote Agri-prices on Nairaland, Its not that People dont make it in Agriculture but when You see the Physical exhaustion prevalent in agriculture you will thank God for 11% SUKUK bond 7 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:23pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
LandMann: Block corruption, reduce cost of governance, reduce population growth rate, savings and Investments should be our way of life from the citizens to business organisations and governments. The investment community, Businesses and regulators should come up with Investment products, derivatives which Investors can invest in that will stimulate the economy. These products can be equity or debt based 1 Like |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by talk2tonie: 4:30pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
emmanuelewumi: Thank you very much for sharing this. Now, I will go ahead and update my equity portfolio with some of these stocks. 1 Like |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:41pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
talk2tonie: Please do your due diligence oooo 5 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by talk2tonie: 4:44pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by unite4real: 4:45pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
LandMann:I have read twice on your comments that official inflation is 14%. Are you referring to Nigeria or Ghana. The last I checked, inflation was 12.56%. Look at this scenario Mr. A invests 20M in sukuk at 11.3%. He gets rental payment of 2.26M annually paid twice in a year. He invests his coupon in buying GTB, Zenith, Dangote Cement or Nestle. Dividends paid go into Money market fund, waiting for opportunities to launch in. Has he not invested in the real sector? He mustn't go and open a business or a start up before he gets involved in the real sector and employ labour. His investment in the capital market keeps the business running as well. That's why he gets his dividend. I think there is a difference between entrepreneurship and real sector. One is a subset of the other. From this analysis, Mr A is doing fine. 9 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:47pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
talk2tonie: Part of the money from the Sukuk will come to Dangote cement, Lafarge and Julius Berger for the construction of roads, bridges and other infrastructures 6 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 4:50pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 4:54pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
unite4real: We invest in the real sector by 1. Starting a business 2. Investing in debts of players in the real sector 3. Becoming a part owner, through equity investment.. Most people talking about investing in the real sector only know about number 1 An investor who invested N1 million in Okomu Oil a company in the Agricultural sector about 15 years ago, has his Investments grown to over N36 million and received dividends of N10 million in the last 5 years. Can we say that person is not investing in the real sector. Some Investors have realized that there is no point reinventing the wheels 14 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by unite4real: 5:24pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
emmanuelewumi: That's the point. |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by yazga: 5:28pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Iyatola! WHAT'S YOUR INTENT FOR INVESTING. When you invest in the stock market, it's important you know why you're investing. Is it for, 1 Wealth building. 2 For off setting a future financial need. 3 Investing for retirement. For me this is the three major reason's most people are in the capital market. Have you found out your core reason for being in the market.? Understanding this will help you to know the kind of stock's to buy and how to go about it. Until you achieve your aim. Hence the process of attaining one's goal in either of them differs from the other. Infact most stocks in the nse right now, are at their low ebbs. No body knows lower lows anymore. If you have investable funds, keep buying fundamentally sound stock's. But to be on a safer side, buy in tranches, so you can maximize lower lows in prices, thereby reducing your lose exposure and increasing your chances of winning more in the medium to long term horizon. CHEERS. Emmanuel c Agubuo. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 5:35pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
yazga: Emma na you be this? 2 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Godbpraised: 5:39pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Great inputs and suggestions. However, one rule I always emphasize is invest in what you know to be honest I no sabi the gold market. Hence if I put my money I fit loose. So na him make me dey put my money for sukuk. Jejely. Call me a lazy investor ![]() Lastly i belive in d principle of do it urself., I do not believe in giving some one my hard earn money to invest for me mba nu. I don learn my lesson. LandMann: |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by heavenisreal18: 5:40pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Kindly suggest medium or low risk investment one can do with 1m pending the busines to do 1 Like |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ojesymsym: 5:42pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Emma wummi, Emmasoft and then another Emma, so once your name is Emma, you don be financial expert be that. emmanuelewumi: |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Godbpraised: 5:43pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
I dey igadun you pass sugar. Please don't off ur mic , Hopefully someone will not faint. emmanuelewumi: |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 6:19pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
I now have a clear underatanding ...the 5.2m naira burial .....over 2mhas been sprayed and donations to family...some envelop still un open.....not too bad ..... |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ojesymsym: 6:21pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Lol... na burial u go for abi na research u go do? Incase u non know, non be who bring the lionshare of the money go collect the lion share of the spray money ahiboilandgas: 2 Likes |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by yazga: 6:21pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
heavenisreal18:Money Market fund 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmasoft(m): 6:33pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
heavenisreal18: I have always suggested it. mutual fund is your best bet with VGIF recommended because the rate is better than mmf presently. it's a good way to keep funds pending when you are ready for business or other ventures. I have written extensively on it on this thread and mutual fund thread. My contact is also there if you want to chat or call me. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 6:36pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
ojesymsym:really? I luv exploring....i drove 10 hours to the location.....i don spray xxxx....amounts too it seem na the elder sister them do special spraying for her 3 times but my guy the main financier no too get people for Najia |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by talk2tonie: 6:37pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
heavenisreal18: United capital bond fund Investment one VGIF United capital MMF Fbnquest MMF 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 6:37pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
ojesymsym:will dey share the spraying money ...cos i go soon do another round....or put for evelop give my hommie |
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