johnw47:


Pro_15:2b  but the mouth of fools poureth out foolishness.


lie lie rozz

you say you love my trouble
but not long ago you was having trouble and ran away

you came back with another username "zzor" laughing
and said it wasn't you and that you didn't even know rozz, ha ha ha

well rejoice most duh rozz, because a lying fool's trouble is never ending:


Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Zzor:
hmm,thats not so bad,safety measures is very important now.But wedding this time around saves money and stress,left for me ooo, I prefer a very quiet wedding with very few people

Maximus69:


Hmmmmmmmm you must be an Ibo girl o!

So you don't want to spend much, well you know JWs don't do much parties so when it's this one wey we dey do, nah everything as in orisirisi must sele!

Zzor:
hmm you seems a party man lol. I'm not igbo though, I just don't like crowds.

Maximus69:


You've forgotten i once played music!

It's noise that i hate because after the show i'll love everywhere to be silent so i can enjoy cool blues music, but as for crowds that's what every musician love o. In fact we love seeing them happy always!

Zzor:
hmmm,jw really did alot on you then.Give me some young maximus69 lol

Maximus69:

On DM, not Nairaland!

Zzor:
hehehe,i know my boundaries ooo.i respect the main and real owner of my sd

Ken4Christ:


This is exactly what God will do. He will transform our physical body into an immortal spiritual body. If God could transform dust to our physical body today, he can also transform our physical body to an imperishable spiritual body. This is what Apostle Paul wrote in the verses I quoted. Your problem is that you try to figure things out with your carnal mind. The things of God doesn't make sense to the carnal mind. You receive it with your spirit. And this is only possible when you are born again.

johnw47:




hey big mouth peacefullove, "peacefullove", laugh that's a funny username for you,
a person who shouts out liar all over the place, you should be called the opposite: "tormentedhate"

i said the truth about Jesus being raised bearing the looks of his beatings
to which you accused and shouted out: "liar"

and then you come out with the lie concerning Jesus that: "at ressurection, people are not raised with Defects"
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well Jesus Himself showed the apostles the holes in His hands and feet
and told thomas to feel the hole in His side:

Luk 24:39 See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.

Joh_20:27  Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.



see how you false jw's cannot stop lying like hell and falsely accusing
you are known by your fruit-lying, and are off your father the devil, the father of lies:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

your final destination:

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


Rev_12:10  And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

^^ you just like him, aren't you

johnw47:



God - Father and the Word come Jesus Christ, made all things:
gen 1:1 gen 1:26 john 1:3 heb 1:2

God - Father and the Word, raised Jesus dead body:

Act 13:30  But God raised him from the dead: 
Act 13:31  And he was seen many days of them which came up with him from Galilee to Jerusalem, who are his witnesses unto the people. 
Act 13:32  And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers, 
Act 13:33  God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again

God raised up Jesus again, God didn't raise another and put Jesus spirit in Him, laughing

Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.


lying pharisee false jw peacefullove, you say Jesus was raised in a borrowed body,
a borrowed body was raised instead of his own, laughing

and not only a borrowed body, but a borrowed body that had holes in the hands, and in the feet, and in the side

achorladey:


Perhaps make we tell am to go and read the PROCLAIMERS BOOK to see where all his CHERISHED TRUTH came from the WEEDS as clearly stated by the first person Jesus converted from WEEDS to WHEAT since CHRISTIANITY goes into extinction in +/-100 C.E

DappaD the picture below is for YOU. After reading you will see the WEEDS who taught RUSSELL before RuSSELL was converted to WHEAT when Jesus returned in 1919

Peacefullove:

Listen to yourself. U said God can transform dust to physical body . does that not make the physical body composed of dust ??


A spiritual body isn't composed of DUST! ... To say its transformed its to say the spiritual body is made up of Dust.


A spiritual body isn't a physical/human body. Its the body of angels and God himself.

Define Spiritual body first ? Is it flesh ? U mean God has a body composed of Dust ?


This is getting interesting.

rottennaija:


I never actually took time to read the screenshot. So Russel gathered doctrines from different religion and form a church or movements with these gathered doctrines. And today, WT will say that they sat down and search the bible. The more you look, the less you see.

rottennaija:


Can God not transform the physical body into a spiritual one? Does he not have the ability?

Zzor:
fake pastor johnw419 why are you such a night crawler

Maximus69:


The underlined is what we need in all these your lengthy epistle Sir!

The word TRINITY is not found written anywhere in the scriptures, so it's doesn't sound reasonable insisting that people must believe in it.
Moreover God's word says the evidence to know or IDENTIFY those worshiping God in spirit and truth is LOVE, JOY,PEACE,PATIENCE,GOODNESS, KINDNESS,FAITH,MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL will be permeating their gathering! Galatians 5:22-23

Since these qualities belongs to God there has never been any imperfect human who has been able to exhibit all these qualities, but in the gathering of God's people it must be evident because he's in their midst!

There is no group of Trinitarians where these qualities is operating, making TRINITY completely a fruitless fallacy! James 2:18-26

Peacefullove:


That body was borrowed . The real resurrection body has no defects or dishonor. Ignorant man.

Peacefullove:



The body Jesus was raised with is invisible to human eyes. Spiritual body ... ( 1Corinthians 15:44-46 )


Get sense . the one he appeared in was borrowed like angels in the past did.


Use your sense: Why didn't Mary recognize his face if its same body ? I wish you can process that

Zzor:
fake pastor johnw419 why are you such a night crawler

Zzor:
fake pastor johnw419 why are you such a night crawler

brocab:
And I suppose believing Jesus is the archangel Michael-that to is not written in the bible either, but it does'n't stop you from believing it.
The word trinity isn't found-but the meaning of it is.
The Father is God. (Matthew 6:8, 7:21, Galatians 1:1)
Jesus is God from the beginning (John 1: 1-18)
The Holy Spirit is God (John 15:26, Mark 3:29, 1 Corinthians 6:19).
And what more can anybody say: when you yourself deny all of the above scriptures. So really JW what do you believe, that makes you a Christian?

Zzor:
hmmm,jw really did alot on you then.Give me some young maximus69 lol

Maximus69: On DM, not Nairaland!

TATIME:
This is where Trinitarians are getting it all wrong!
JWs believe that Jesus must be an angel and precisely Michael in the spirit realms before he was transformed into the womb of a jewish virgin.
But we don't preach it publicly since it's not found written black and white in the Bible.
So it's a secret amongst those who studied God's word thoroughly not something to be used as the basis of our preaching for salvation.
We maintain the transparency of what is found in the scriptures. During all my study with JWs nobody ever preached Jesus is Michael to me! It's during the course of the Bible study that i myself told my Bible study conductor i found something that i'll like to share with him and when i told him he simply commended my effort.
This is totally different from Trinitarians, they just insist everyone must believe in Trinity even when it's not found written in God's word.
Please JWs never said you must believe Jesus is Michael, all what they're saying is Jesus differs from Jehovah and to please Jehovah you must do whatever the son (Jesus) ask you to do that's all! John 3:16

TATIME:


Hmmmmmmmm, i'm watching you both with the third eye!

Peacefullove:


When you transform raw materials into finish products, it simply means you used the raw materials as BASIS or COMPOSITION of the finished product.


Are you saying God and the angels are made from dust composition?


Answer that cos the scripture says Like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly. We need to know if those in heaven were transformed from dust materials.

rottennaija:


So God doesn't have the ability?

He is govern by natural laws or the law if physics?

johnw47post=92111095:





false jw tormentedhate

you have repeted your same confusion once again which i have explained to you very well before
but of course you satans mob have no understanding of truth

read my posts again fool and learn

very duh false jw, 1cor 15:44 is about man
he is made a natural body, he dies and his body corrupts
he is raised a spiritual body
the reason Jesus natural body did not see corruption is because it was to be resurrected


and of course you don't believe God's word-Jesus words:

Luk 24:41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
Luk 24:42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.

the first thing Jesus asked for after resurrection was for food
He hadn't eaten in over three days, of course a Spirit would not have need of food,

Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

Jesus(the Word) said he would raise up His destroyed body not a spirit one



Luk 24:39 See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have.

Joh_20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

Jesus Himself said that He was not a Spirit , He showed thomas the holes in His hands and feet and told him to feel the hole in the side of His body that was crucified

Act_2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Act_2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

Jesus soul-His body was not left in hell-the tomb, and it did not see corruption,
this is speaking of the resurrection of Christ, His soul-His body was not left in hell-the tomb, it was resurrected without corruption


peacefullove aka tormented hate

1Co_14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Mat_7:15  Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Mat_23:15  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

rottennaija:


So God doesn't have the ability? He is govern by natural laws or the law if physics?

Maximus69:

He is the Almighty nah, but he will not change his program after telling his loyal servants what they must do to stay safe within the circumference of his arrangements! Revelations 22:18-19



He is not a bully so he also subject himself to his own rules, that's why he had to sacrifice his only begotten son in other to redeem mankind {John 3:16} otherwise Jesus didn't need to come and die in the first place!
As the Almighty, God would have just forgiven the obedient ones amongst mankind without the stress of going through all his own laws that says "life for life" {Exodus 21:23} or perfect being (Jesus) to pay for the sin committed by perfect being (Adam) 1Corinthians 15:45 compare to Psalms 49:7-9

Peacefullove:

God can't lie ... Does that mean he doesn't have the ability ? Or there are principles guiding his actions ?

There are principles that guide his Actions. I earlier gave you. Like the heavenly one, so are those in heaven ... Someone just need to tell me if those in heaven , God and His angels are transformed from dust ? Is that too hard for you to answer ?

rottennaija:


So he has the ability to change things of different forms?