Put for envelope give ur guy. That his sister go colonize that money. Ideally they supposed share am or each person take his own share during the dance process

ahiboilandgas:
will dey share the spraying money ...cos i go soon do another round....or put for evelop give my hommie

ojesymsym:
Put for envelope give ur guy. That his sister go colonize that money. Ideally they supposed share am or each person take his own share during the dance process

thank u very much for the respond....i don spray the sister ooooh...i no know ..it seems 80 person of the spray is for her own dance.....no wonder she requested to dance alone ...then other ......nijia woman with sense....but she try ooh all the physical organization na she do am...

The person on ground tends to have the most crowd plus she go get many meetings people plus church members.

ahiboilandgas:
thank u very much for the respond....i don spray the sister ooooh...i no know ..it seems 80 person of the spray is for her own dance.....no wonder she requested to dance alone ...then other ......nijia woman with sense....but she try ooh all the physical organization na she do am...

ojesymsym:
The person on ground tends to have the most crowd plus she go get many meetings people plus church members.

yes she grew up there...while my friend in Abuja and went abroad...na only 5 of us come for him .....meanwhile he the main contributor......i luv the aspect of feeding a lots of village people with good food more than 3000 people ....my only issue na those undertaker dancing with the coffins endless to generate money...

They even held the coffins hostages untill we sprayed over 50k on them...

Leave undertaker, those guys invest for real sector of the economy. Lol

ahiboilandgas:
yes she grew up there...while my friend in Abuja and went abroad...na only 5 of us come for him .....meanwhile he the main contributor......i luv the aspect of feeding a lots of village people with good food more than 3000 people ....my only issue na those undertaker dancing with the coffins endless to generate money...

50k. They saw you guys as rich then. What of the dance band, they non use your name sing?

ahiboilandgas:
They even held the coffins hostages untill we sprayed over 50k on them...

ojesymsym:
Leave undertaker, those guys invest for real sector of the economy. Lol

am just not confortable to be shaking corspe up and down

ojesymsym:
50k. They saw you guys as rich then. What of the dance band, they non use your name sing?

sorry those band escorting the coffin with uniform na undertaker or dance band?for corspe

ahiboilandgas:
It own by a clan opp a Govt approve Gra ....there is the deal we have bought the local houses for 60m naira we will demolished and use caterpillar to grade and sell the broken blocks to pay for the grading.....and cave out 10 plots(100 by 50) and sell for 10m each ....we will sell all within a month God grace the going rate is 12-13m but we dont want to hold for long ...we spend another 5m to get state govt approval......i 5 year time those land will be sold for 15m each i ....told u ......u dont go about buying up meanless forest and waiting for luck........property business is a full time job on it own

Which area is this sir, we might be interested.

Musicians

ahiboilandgas:
sorry those band escorting the coffin with uniform na undertaker or dance band?for corspe

emmanuelewumi:



Part of the money from the Sukuk will come to Dangote cement, Lafarge and Julius Berger for the construction of roads, bridges and other infrastructures

See tips .....When you walk with the wise ...you will definitely be one.... well thats if you keep your mind open

Thanks @emmanuelwumi

abraolas1:


See tips .....When you walk with the wise ...you will definitely be one.... well thats if you keep your mind open

Thanks @emmanuelwumi

Upon the lock down, Dangote cement still made a profit after tax of N126 billion between January 1st be and June 31st 2020

unite4real:

I have read twice on your comments that official inflation is 14%. Are you referring to Nigeria or Ghana. The last I checked, inflation was 12.56%.

Look at this scenario

Mr. A invests 20M in sukuk at 11.3%.
He gets rental payment of 2.26M annually paid twice in a year.
He invests his coupon in buying GTB, Zenith, Dangote Cement or Nestle.

Dividends paid go into Money market fund, waiting for opportunities to launch in.

Has he not invested in the real sector?
He mustn't go and open a business or a start up before he gets involved in the real sector and employ labour. His investment in the capital market keeps the business running as well. That's why he gets his dividend.

I think there is a difference between entrepreneurship and real sector. One is a subset of the other.

From this analysis,

Mr A is doing fine.

Well said!

Phraences:
https://www.ccn.com/sec-chair-worried-amateurs-get-hurt-stock-bubbles-tesla/

We discussed Tesla about 2 weeks ago, and I queried why the valuation of Tesla was higher than that of companies like Microsoft, Amazon, Coca Cola, Shell etc.

Tesla is a bubble waiting to burst

emmanuelewumi:


We discussed Tesla about 2 weeks ago, and I queried why the valuation of Tesla was higher than that of companies like Microsoft, Amazon, Coca Cola, Shell etc.

Tesla is a bubble waiting to burst

There was one nigga disturbing everybody here then as if he knows more than Warren Buffet. I will always recommend $VOO over individual stocks. Lower rewards but lower uncertainty, since it's an index fund.

Just breezed through the Digital Agriculture thread and had a long laugh.

Do these investors know the location of these so called farms?

Some people can be desperate sha.

CsRockefeller:
Just breezed through the Digital Agriculture thread and had a long laugh.

Do these investors know the location of these so called farms?

Some people can be desperate sha.

please what digital about agriculture....if they want to run a firm like okumu oil plc...let them do ....give us audited reports ....

CsRockefeller:
Just breezed through the Digital Agriculture thread and had a long laugh.

Do these investors know the location of these so called farms?

Some people can be desperate sha.

Some of the farms tell their investors to come for visits

I still have strong doubts about them though

ahiboilandgas:
please what digital about agriculture....if they want to run a firm like okumu oil plc...let them do ....give us audited reports ....

Exactly!

Let them incorporate the business, go public then people can invest.

ahiboilandgas:
please what digital about agriculture....if they want to run a firm like okumu oil plc...let them do ....give us audited reports ....

I wonder too o.

Why would any reasonable person put their money in trash like that and call it "investment"? Now see what some of them are going through.

People who have never handled a cutlass much less cut a blade of grass will never understand why and how difficult agriculture is even cattle rearing. That is why they can easily believe the high returns.

ahiboilandgas:
please what digital about agriculture....if they want to run a firm like okumu oil plc...let them do ....give us audited reports ....

Rule number one, invest in what you know and understand end to end. If it is too juicy it certainly has some traps.

OgogoroFreak:
I wonder too o.

Why would any reasonable person put their money in trash like that and call it "investment"? Now see what some of them are going through.

CsRockefeller:


Exactly!

Let them incorporate the business, go public then people can invest.

If they go public, people won't invest in them. The target market of investors is not the type that would invest in long term equities. That's why these platforms have to offer a defined ROI that might be sometimes unrealistic.

It is actually cheaper for the businesses to raise funds from the public. As a public company, nobody would even query you if you make losses. See Oando and Japaul for details.

As long as people realize that these promised returns come with risks, then there is really no need to overlabor the point or laugh at the people in the agritech thread. That's why there is a difference between savings and investment. You save for a rainy day usually in cash instruments (time deposits, savings accounts, tbills) where your only risk is the risk of inflation while you invest money you can lose or at least excess funds.

It is the nature of Nigerians that make investment funds/platforms provide defined ROI whereas in the real world you are unlikely to get defined ROI.

From 1988-2019, Jim Simmon's Renaissance Technology Meddalion Fund returned 66% annual compounded returns (dollar is the currency) with over $100 billion dollars in cash profits made in those years. But not for once where investors promised a defined return. Instead, investors would get 56 percent of any profit. That's how the return structure should be, not promising high ROI that when the business is unable to meet it, it is forced to become a Ponzi scheme.

OgogoroFreak:
I wonder too o.

Why would any reasonable person put their money in trash like that and call it "investment"? Now see what some of them are going through.

Just because you don't believe in it doesn't mean its thrash.
So are you saying crowdyvest, farmsponsor or a company like thrive agric that has got international funding in dollars from FAO are thrash?
Or are you saying requid technologies whose trustee is united African capital are fools for keying into the agritech sector?
Please let's be guided on how we make comments that is condescending to other people's sensibilities.
Just because the sector is unregulated at the moment doesn't mean it's thrash. SEC has already designed a framework for regulation of the sector, what is being awaited now is implementation.
I can assure u that those investors on the thread who do proper diligence and invest in the genuine agrotech companies that offer sensible ROIs of between 20percent to 40 percent per annum are achieving more capital appreciation than you who is hell bent on dying in treasury bill investment of 5percent and below per annum even at above 18 percent unofficial inflation rate.

I advise you read about the laws of gold in the book the richest man in Babylon and understand how people decide among the laws to follow when creating wealth.

Pls don't insult people's income path just because you don't believe in it or you don't have the balls to take the risk inherent in that path. Just face your own Hustle.
Tnx

emmanuelewumi:



What do you have in your investment portfolio eg bonds, money market, Eurobonds, real estate, equity, small business etc.

For now I am very bullish about the stock market.

So I will advise selling half at N10 million. The remaining bond will generate an annual coupon of N1 million for the next 16 years

Zenith bank, UBA, APR, United Capital will give you a dividend yield of 15% and above.

Dangote cement, Lafarge, Dangote sugar, Julius Berger will give you a dividend yield of about 12%.

If you are considering investments that are linked to forex, you can consider Seplat and Airtel.

Seplat paid dividend 2 months ago at $1 to N350.

Airtel paid yesterday at $1 to N430

This is wonderful advice
Thanks for sharing

einsteine:
It is the nature of Nigerians that make investment funds/platforms provide defined ROI whereas in the real world you are unlikely to get defined ROI.

From 1988-2019, Jim Simmon's Renaissance Technology Meddalion Fund returned 66% annual compounded returns (dollar is the currency) with over $100 billion dollars in cash profits made in those years. But not for once where investors promised a defined return. Instead, investors would get 56 percent of any profit. That's how the return structure should be, not promising high ROI that when the business is unable to meet it, it is forced to become a Ponzi scheme.

Well said

talk2tonie:


Thank you very much for sharing this. Now, I will go ahead and update my equity portfolio with some of these stocks.

You should

Greenvaiper:


Just because you don't believe in it doesn't mean its thrash.
So are you saying crowdyvest, farmsponsor or a company like thrive agric that has got international funding in dollars from FAO are thrash?
Or are you saying requid technologies whose trustee is united African capital are fools for keying into the agritech sector?
Please let's be guided on how we make comments that is condescending to other people's sensibilities.
Just because the sector is unregulated at the moment doesn't mean it's thrash. SEC has already designed a framework for regulation of the sector, what is being awaited now is implementation.
I can assure u that those investors on the thread who do proper diligence and invest in the genuine agrotech companies that offer sensible ROIs of between 20percent to 40 percent per annum are achieving more capital appreciation than you who is hell bent on dying in treasury bill investment of 5percent and below per annum even at above 18 percent unofficial inflation rate.

I advise you read about the laws of gold in the book the richest man in Babylon and understand how people decide among the laws to follow when creating wealth.

Pls don't insult people's income path just because you don't believe in it or you don't have the balls to take the risk inherent in that path. Just face your own Hustle.
Tnx

What is the average returns from crowdyvest and farm sponsor.

Requid is a middleman who facilitates secondary market sales of these Investment, so they have minimal or no risk . The risks are passed to those they resell to

Eg buy in bulk at 20% and sell almost immediately to retail Investors at 18%.

Banks that are regulated by SEC, CBN and NSE fail at times, talkless of unregulated deposit seeking businesses in the Agricultural sector.

I always tell people to only invest what they can afford to lose in unregulated investment schemes. And should never invest their life savings in such investments

All the same, I think about 30% of them should be reliable and might be in operation for the next 5 years.

Government, SEC, Agricbusiness owners, Insurance companies, banks, farmers and the Investing community need to come up with the framework for the establishment of a viable Commodity exchange, when this happens the big money will come to that sector

emmanuelewumi:



What is the average returns from crowdyvest and farm sponsor.

Requid is a middleman who facilitates secondary market sales of these Investment, so they have minimal or no risk . The risks are passed to those they resell to

Eg buy in bulk at 20% and sell almost immediately to retail Investors at 18%.

Banks that are regulated by SEC, CBN and NSE fail at times, talkless of unregulated deposit seeking businesses in the Agricultural sector.

I always tell people to only invest what they can afford to lose in unregulated investment schemes. And should never invest their life savings in such investments

All the same, I think about 30% of them should be reliable and might be in operation for the next 5 years.

Government, SEC, Agricbusiness owners, Insurance companies, banks, farmers and the Investing community need to come up with the framework for the establishment of a viable Commodity exchange, when this happens the big money will come to that sector

We are saying the same thing. The guy I quoted just came and blacklisted the whole sector and made very condescending comments on people who invest there. If the sector is not a promising one, then I don't see why requid under the aegis of United African capital would want to get involved in it.

Farmsponsor gives an average returns of 30 to 45percent per annum while crowdy vest is between 15 to 20percent per annum