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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 2:11pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
johnw47:fake pastor johnw419 why are you such a night crawler |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 2:14pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Zzor: Hmmmmmmmm you must be an Ibo girl o! So you don't want to spend much, well you know JWs don't do much parties so when it's this one wey we dey do, nah everything as in orisirisi must sele! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 2:15pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Maximus69:hmm you seems a party man lol. I'm not igbo though, I just don't like crowds. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 2:19pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Zzor: You've forgotten i once played music! It's noise that i hate because after the show i'll love everywhere to be silent so i can enjoy cool blues music, but as for crowds that's what every musician love o. In fact we love seeing them happy always! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 2:22pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Maximus69:hmmm,jw really did alot on you then.Give me some young maximus69 lol |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 2:25pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Zzor:On DM, not Nairaland! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 2:28pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Maximus69:hehehe,i know my boundaries ooo.i respect the main and real owner of my sd 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 2:44pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
![]() Zzor: 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 5:46pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Ken4Christ:Listen to yourself. U said God can transform dust to physical body . does that not make the physical body composed of dust ?? A spiritual body isn't composed of DUST! ... To say its transformed its to say the spiritual body is made up of Dust. A spiritual body isn't a physical/human body. Its the body of angels and God himself. Define Spiritual body first ? Is it flesh ? U mean God has a body composed of Dust ? This is getting interesting. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 5:50pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
johnw47: That body was borrowed . The real resurrection body has no defects or dishonor. Ignorant man. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 5:52pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
johnw47: The body Jesus was raised with is invisible to human eyes. Spiritual body ... ( 1Corinthians 15:44-46 ) Get sense . the one he appeared in was borrowed like angels in the past did. Use your sense: Why didn't Mary recognize his face if its same body ? ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 9:03pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
achorladey: I never actually took time to read the screenshot. So Russel gathered doctrines from different religion and form a church or movements with these gathered doctrines. And today, WT will say that they sat down and search the bible. The more you look, the less you see. 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 9:09pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Peacefullove: Can God not transform the physical body into a spiritual one? Does he not have the ability? |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 10:59pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
rottennaija: The REALITY says its well documented in their HISTORY books but they will rather look elsewhere. I appreciate that they admit Christ turn WEEDS to WHEAT to restart and reorganize TRUE CHRISTIANITY. Like you told one the other day, when they SEE APOSTATE materials they will not KNOW. 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 11:27pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
rottennaija: When you transform raw materials into finish products, it simply means you used the raw materials as BASIS or COMPOSITION of the finished product. Are you saying God and the angels are made from dust composition? Answer that cos the scripture says Like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly. We need to know if those in heaven were transformed from dust materials. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:52pm On Jul 25, 2020 |
Zzor: poor tormented most duh lie lie rozz why are you so unintelligent why are you such a liar: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 12:21am On Jul 26, 2020 |
And I suppose believing Jesus is the archangel Michael-that to is not written in the bible either, but it does'n't stop you from believing it. The word trinity isn't found-but the meaning of it is. The Father is God. (Matthew 6:8, 7:21, Galatians 1:1) Jesus is God from the beginning (John 1: 1-18) The Holy Spirit is God (John 15:26, Mark 3:29, 1 Corinthians 6:19). And what more can anybody say: when you yourself deny all of the above scriptures. So really JW what do you believe, that makes you a Christian? Maximus69: |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 12:25am On Jul 26, 2020 |
Peacefullove: Peacefullove: false jw tormentedhate you have repeted your same confusion once again which i have explained to you very well before but of course you satans mob have no understanding of truth read my posts again fool and learn very duh false jw, 1cor 15:44 is about man he is made a natural body, he dies and his body corrupts he is raised a spiritual body the reason Jesus natural body did not see corruption is because it was to be resurrected and of course you don't believe God's word-Jesus words: Luk 24:41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat? Luk 24:42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. the first thing Jesus asked for after resurrection was for food He hadn't eaten in over three days, of course a Spirit would not have need of food, Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Jesus(the Word) said he would raise up His destroyed body not a spirit one Luk 24:39 See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me, and see. For a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have. Joh_20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing. Jesus Himself said that He was not a Spirit, He showed thomas the holes in His hands and feet and told him to feel the hole in the side of His body that was crucified Act_2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Act_2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. Jesus soul-His body was not left in hell-the tomb, and it did not see corruption, this is speaking of the resurrection of Christ, His soul-His body was not left in hell-the tomb, it was resurrected without corruption peacefullove aka tormented hate 1Co_14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. Mat_7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Mat_23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 2:05am On Jul 26, 2020 |
Zzor: most unintelligent duh in the world why did you change your username from rozz to zzor why did you say you are not rozz why did you say you don't know rozz why are you so psycho why do you lie like the devil: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 2:14am On Jul 26, 2020 |
Zzor: lie lie rozz i struck out the lies in your post and left the truth you r so pathetic, laughing Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 3:58am On Jul 26, 2020 |
This is where Trinitarians are getting it all wrong! ![]() ![]() ![]() JWs believe that Jesus must be an angel and precisely Michael in the spirit realms before he was transformed into the womb of a jewish virgin. But we don't preach it publicly since it's not found written black and white in the Bible. So it's a secret amongst those who studied God's word thoroughly not something to be used as the basis of our preaching for salvation. We maintain the transparency of what is found in the scriptures. During all my study with JWs nobody ever preached Jesus is Michael to me! It's during the course of the Bible study that i myself told my Bible study conductor i found something that i'll like to share with him and when i told him he simply commended my effort. This is totally different from Trinitarians, they just insist everyone must believe in Trinity even when it's not found written in God's word. Please JWs never said you must believe Jesus is Michael, all what they're saying is Jesus differs from Jehovah and to please Jehovah you must do whatever the son (Jesus) ask you to do that's all! John 3:16 ![]() ![]() ![]() brocab: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 4:06am On Jul 26, 2020 |
Zzor: Maximus69: On DM, not Nairaland! Hmmmmmmmm, i'm watching you both with the third eye! ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 5:41am On Jul 26, 2020 |
lie lie rozz you really in love with yourself how you can love that big fat baboon bum is anyones guess: www.nairaland.com/attachments/11859435_rozz_jpeg4652f9fb02b52a2e79419b1a78abee04 www.nairaland.com/attachments/12000947_baboonbum_jpeg091aefb3343d1a3b1668dd3210b3dd06 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 7:26am On Jul 26, 2020 |
TATIME: Please tell him o! JWs taught me but it was my curiosity that led to it, because i wanted to know the real identity of Jesus since he's not God Almighty as Churches of Christendom often irritates Muslims with the assertion. Yet the person who taught me asked me to pray fervently for more understanding on the real personality of Jesus. But what further need do i to continue bothering myself after discovering the one and only true peaceful group? Of course no one can know the true identity of Jesus whom the Bible calls Prince of Peace better than the group with whom i have found true PEACE! ![]() The military taught me how to ensue peace by the use of force, weapons and records of casualties, but JWs taught me that true PEACE is not achievable when both sides still hold grudges in their hearts. Now i know the true meaning of peace as people willingly surrendered all their deadly weapons in the name of Jesus to please our heavenly father Jehovah. Isaiah 9:6-7 So if JWs say Jesus is Archangel Michael, they've gotten all the evidence in the world with the Peace that reigns in their midst! James 2:18-26 ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 7:33am On Jul 26, 2020 |
TATIME: Go and report us at the police station or better still sue us to Court! ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 7:37am On Jul 26, 2020 |
Peacefullove: So God doesn't have the ability? He is govern by natural laws or the law if physics? ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:24am On Jul 26, 2020 |
rottennaija:He is the Almighty nah, but he will not change his program after telling his loyal servants what they must do to stay safe within the circumference of his arrangements! Revelations 22:18-19 ![]() He is govern by natural laws or the law if physics? He is not a bully so he also subject himself to his own rules, that's why he had to sacrifice his only begotten son in other to redeem mankind {John 3:16} otherwise Jesus didn't need to come and die in the first place! ![]() As the Almighty, God would have just forgiven the obedient ones amongst mankind without the stress of going through all his own laws that says "life for life" {Exodus 21:23} or perfect being (Jesus) to pay for the sin committed by perfect being (Adam) 1Corinthians 15:45 compare to Psalms 49:7-9 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 10:44am On Jul 26, 2020 |
johnw47post=92111095: Don't mock yourself, What passed through the stomach must be excreted, Do you agree ? If Jesus ate and he is human according to you ... Do you agree Jesus excreted that food in heaven after his resurrection ? U just fail to remember Angels also eat food when they visit Abraham in borrowed human body. When will you have sense ??
Just as an angel said he was a man. But we know better . 1Corinthinas 15:44-46 already expose you ... It was sown a physical body, raise a what ?? Physical body ? Spiritual body isn't flesh/physical Johnnw74 , grow up ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 10:54am On Jul 26, 2020 |
rottennaija:God can't lie ... Does that mean he doesn't have the ability ? Or there are principles guiding his actions ? There are principles that guide his Actions. I earlier gave you. Like the heavenly one, so are those in heaven ... Someone just need to tell me if those in heaven , God and His angels are transformed from dust ? Is that too hard for you to answer ? 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 10:55am On Jul 26, 2020 |
Maximus69: 100% |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 11:12am On Jul 26, 2020 |
Peacefullove: So he has the ability to change things of different forms? |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 11:18am On Jul 26, 2020 |
rottennaija: Tell me if God and his angels are transformed from dust ?? 1 Like 1 Share |
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