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Re: What Is Faith Really? by DrLiveLogic(m): 11:01am On Jul 27, 2020 |
Judas1X:I totally understand you, bro, but it also shows you've not been reading my posts and this is not a new understanding. Heb 11:1-3 ...and faith is the substrate of what we hope for, the object of proof not seen(immaterial like your emotions, conscience...) because in it, the elders became witnesses. Faith makes us understand that the ages were structured by the utterance of God, to that the visible things did not become from visible things (the Singularity is pointing towards this). Note these are only claims but can be validated. The quest begins from the questions and after introspection, a method will be proferred. All the elders were scientists, researching in the immaterial world while living in the material. The validity of that was determined in their personal search, not provided by another. Really? This is coming from the same boy who keeps riding Tamara for not presenting objective evidence for evolution? Do you know what the terms "objective" and "evidence" connote.The problem is you don't get the bane of logic. Understand axioms and self-evident truths. All logic derives from and builds on these not proving these. They are verified by consciousness, like virtually all matter, so with faith. The truth is nasty, my dear failed logician. And the truth here is you want to bait us into considering your position using questions that appeal to ignorance instead of persuading us through the objective evidence. We see through the bullshit you've drowned yourself in, and if you think we'll jump into that pool of shit to play with you, you must be off your meds Tamaratonye5:No you weren't Tantrum, denial can give us the same lens and truth isn't nasty, dear old man friend. It's denial that causes torture, misrepresenting it. Plus your problem is you really came with a prejudice from whatever previous encounters you may have had with 'theists'. If you'd simply try read my posts, I never claimed uncertainty of evolutionism validates creationism. I have all through only tried to invalidate the false security in it and suggest empirical validation of faith. It has not come to that nauVery well then, my senior old man friend and examiner, if repetitive use of boy, lad et al makes you feel more accomplished and superior. Just remember that I answered your questions for what they're worth(or not) and offered mine not to examine you actually but for self-examination. These questions don't validate faith, they can only lead you on the quest to resolve the unknown, like science. Faith will be validated only when contacted. You've been displaying unparalleled arrogance on this thread. Maybe Tamara is too chicken to give you what you're asking for. Me, I have no qualms when it comes to delivering verbal artillery. Answer my questions boy.Actually, you're yet to match Tamaratonye5's tirades. The reason they may look non-existent to you is because such are feckless in my world so I don't respond in kind. If you don't believe, give your best shot. And don't worry, this doesn't require logic, just mere experimentation, like faith. However, my demeanor is not arrogance but simply from a state of peace inside. Like I told her, I really wish her the best and on the quest of faith, I actually wish you all success from my heart of hearts but if you have no interest in researching faith matters the way I've suggested, let's not waste each other's time, I can plead no further or should I put a knife to your throat? One love bro. PS. I hope dragonflyy can see that Tantrum, doesn't want to drop it with her claims on evolutionism and she doesn't even know what we mean by code in DNA lol. Tantrum, ain't calling for help, you gave Daejoyoung a link, I offered him a refutation. That's how we arrive at a circumspect perspective but would you ever know that. LMAO. Dear Tantrum, faith cannot be derived etymologically and certainly not by a dictionary because it is immaterial in nature. Only those who have the experience know what it really is. Try Paul up there. |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by Judas1X: 11:13am On Jul 27, 2020 |
DrLiveLogic:All these Epistles and you'll still didn't answer my questions! There is problem ooo ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by Judas1X: 11:17am On Jul 27, 2020 |
Tamaratonye5:Issokay m'lady. Leave him to me. I know the method to his madness. Dude Is busy telling long tales but he doesn't know he started the insults ![]() ![]() DrLiveLogic, I actually feel sorry for you. I haven't even started to think of attacking you verbally. You seem to be uneasy all of a sudden. Today's a busy day for me. Please endeavour to answer my questions before I return. If you think you've got lip, then you thought very wrong State of peace indeed ![]() |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by DrLiveLogic(m): 12:00pm On Jul 27, 2020 |
Judas1X:Yawn!! Please provide proof of the insults I started or add one more trouble to your conscience. LMAO. It's funny how uneasy I seem to you or how you correlate peace and uneasiness. As for your questions, you know this is a public forum, you're being watched so quit clowning around. Reproduce your questions and I'll again reproduce the answers since you pretend you missed them. I will likely be free tomorrow, so come back later and either answer my questions or let be. 1 Like |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by Judas1X: 2:33pm On Jul 27, 2020 |
[s] DrLiveLogic:[/s] If you think I'll let you dictate the pace of this convo, you're sorely mistaken. You answered nothing. You only made bare claims without evidence. Even you can't deny this. So keep asking people to support evolution with evidence when you can't do the same for ID. You're too boring for me to waste scathing expletives on ![]() ![]() |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by Tamaratonye5(f): 3:19pm On Jul 27, 2020 |
DrLiveLogic:Nonsense, you were given every chance. And nothing you’ve posted indicates an honest desire to pursue the truth. There is no bias on my part, that’s a sad lie you told, I treat all claims the same. You have no valid objections to evolution, nor does any other creationist, that is axiomatic, otherwise they would falsify it and we would all know, as that is how the scientific method works. The idea your risible denials of evolution are not motivated by your belief in creationist myths is absurd, by all means can you list all the other scientific facts you deny, that don’t in any way contradict any part of your religious beliefs? While you’re at that, list ten beliefs you hold without any shred of objective evidence, but that form no part of your religious beliefs? You see this "stuff" you keep trotting out here, ad nauseum, may convince the gullible sheeple, but the atheists here are on the whole far too well informed to be taken in. ----------------------------- Cheers Tamaraton Tabascunus Tantrum 1 Like |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by dragonflyy(m): 3:32pm On Jul 27, 2020 |
[s] DrLiveLogic:[/s] guy how do you manage to say so much, and end up passing zero meaning accross ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by dragonflyy(m): 3:35pm On Jul 27, 2020 |
Judas1X:that guy is blabbing pure pseudoscience. none of what he's saying has ever been validated by science! honestly one of the cringiest apologists I've ever seen. Jeez!!! 3 Likes |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by Vic2Ree(m): 3:37pm On Jul 27, 2020 |
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Re: What Is Faith Really? by Tamaratonye5(f): 5:32pm On Jul 27, 2020 |
dragonflyy:It rattles me as well How are they not embarrassed to not know basic concepts you can Google in a few seconds. A law isn’t better than a theory , or vice versa. They’re just different, and in the end, all that matters is that they’re used correctly. … For example, evolution is a law — the law tells us that it happens but doesn’t describe how or why. A theory describes how and why something happens Only an ignorant creatard would think a scientific law is a linear progression from a scientific theory. Dear oh fucking dear Though scientific laws and theories are supported by a large body of empirical data, accepted by the majority of scientists within that area of scientific study and help to unify it, they are not the same thing. "Laws are descriptions — often mathematical descriptions — of natural phenomenon; for example, Newton’s Law of Gravity or Mendel’s Law of Independent Assortment. These laws simply describe the observation. Not how or why they work, said Coppinger. 1 Like |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by Tamaratonye5(f): 5:37pm On Jul 27, 2020 |
empirical Faith DrLiveLogic: suggests empirical validation of faithChrist on a bike but creatards are dumb. They'd rather suggest, but not provide empirical proof of faith. 1 Like |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by DrLiveLogic(m): 7:49pm On Jul 27, 2020 |
Vic2Ree: dragonflyy: dragonflyy: Nor will any of what I'm saying be validated by science. A simple reading my posts would have made that clear. An attempt at the Ten questions. would have helped you see that science only explains one domain of existence, our space-time universe, but points to a domain beyond it also. So if you believe science, you would believe there's a domain beyond science as it says of itself. Faith is only found in the same domain your conscience and emotions are beyond science's domain but is experiential nonetheless like your conscience and desire. You must answer the ten questions to begin researching faith is all I'm saying. That should be easy enough to understand. Ready when you are. Judas1X: The onus to research faith is on y'all. I can't do it for you. Only he who seeks will find, Jer 29:13, Mt 7:7. That is the rules of engagement. The only valid question is how to find. The answer begins with a simple touch on this. Ten questions. These will not validate faith but create an awareness for the journey to begin. When any is done, mention me again, we will discuss and I'll suggest a method to discover faith. Tamaratonye5: Tantrum, my dear, as I said before, no shame in learning. I learn everyday too. But if you keep attempting @ law Vs theory, you'll only keep revealing your lack of training in science. Evolutionism is a just a theory else every single scientist must be bound by it. Science is not politics and not about numbers but is objective. LMAO. Consider. Gravity, Upthrust, Thermodynamics, are laws, they don't get overturned. Evolutionism is a mere subjective attempt to make sense of objective findings. It is interpretation of facts. It's been revised over and over and will be revised many more times with new findings till we arrive at truth. Learn how theories are overturned with new theories, ma Theory Vs theory. Natural selection, adaptation, common descent are validated. It is such evolution that every scientist accepts as fact, even ID crew. They can be theorised under ID exclusive of trans-speciation. Trans-speciation from Darwinism is a theory and has never been validated and is the bone of contention with ID crew. As for faith, always learn to go to source when seeking true answers. Funny you quoted it first and now I expound on it, you shift goalposts to juxtapose from dictionary which can only explain material things. It's like checking an encyclopedia to know what heaven looks like. LMAO. Once again, faith, as defined by source viz. proven men of faith, Heb 11:1, will only be validated empirically, using a method I'll suggest to the one serious enough to answer all ten questions sincerely. I think it was Muttleylaff who once said something like when they all come for you recycling unnecessary questions but avoid yours, know it poked them real good. Well, it's all good seeing how you all stand up for each other and came to Tantrum's help. Something you only get to enjoy on this side of death, not in the afterlife. Perhaps you could all invite some more sincere atheists who might want to arrive at the experience of the substrate, faith, and aren't scared to look into these questions or you can keep going in your circles mentioning me if it makes you feel better. Wish you all the best nonetheless. |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by Tamaratonye5(f): 9:43pm On Jul 27, 2020 |
DrLiveLogic:[1] Gravity and thermodynamics have been revised many times as well. Which kind of lets the air out of the tires of your argument, in my opinion [2] If you think speciation hasn’t been observed in nature, let alone reproduced in the laboratory, then I could find numerous scientific papers waiting to disabuse you of this fatuous idea. -------------------------------- Cheers Tamaraton Tongomustin Tantrum 3 Likes |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by Judas1X: 7:40am On Jul 28, 2020 |
[s] DrLiveLogic:[/s] Gravity is a theory… We have two usable theories of gravity, Einstein’s Theory and Newtonian Theory. Thermodynamics? What is the theory of thermodynamics? Thermodynamics , science of the relationship between heat, work, temperature, and energy. In broad terms, thermodynamics deals with the transfer of energy from one place to another and from one form to another. The key concept is that heat is a form of energy corresponding to a definite amount of mechanical work. YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT THE Bleep YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. Not only that you cannot tell the difference between a theory and a ‘Law’ Why don’t you just GIVE IT UP. ALL SCIENCE IS WRONG. YOUR DIPFUCK ASSERTIONS ABOVE ARE ALL TRUE. THEORIES ARE LAWS AND LAWS ARE THEORIES AND ANY WAY YOU DEFINE THEM IS PERFECTLY CORRECT. NOW DEMONSTRATE YOUR GOD EXISTS. 2 Likes |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by 1000WaysToLive(m): 7:49am On Jul 28, 2020 |
Empirical validation of faith is easy. Just look at all the people who travel to places like Lourdes each year in the sure hope of divine intervention to cure their ailments. That’s evidence that those people have faith. But the fact is, there’s absolutely no evidence that faith actually affects anything. DrLiveLogic: 1 Like |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by 1000WaysToLive(m): 7:50am On Jul 28, 2020 |
Creationists and JWs, etc., love the laws of thermodynamics. They like to tell people that evolution violates the second law because it runs in the opposite direction to entropy, therefore god. They conveniently forget that the law applies to "isolated systems:, which fortunately the Earth is not. Judas1X: 2 Likes |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by Judas1X: 9:19pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
1000WaysToLive:I just love it. DrDeadLogic's creationist method played out to perfection ![]() 1. Spew ignorant creationist rant, evolution is a great subject to use. 2. Get called out and corrected. 3. Claim superior intellect and double-down on ignorance. 4. Get called out again, have it explained to you in detail. 5. Spew more ignorance and insults. 6. Have views rightfully mocked. 7. Spew more ignorance and insults, claim victory and leave. 8. Wash, rinse, repeat. |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by Judybash93(m): 10:50pm On Jul 28, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker: No, you're wrong sir. I know him personally and i can feel him in my heart 1 Like |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by DrLiveLogic(m): 6:08am On Aug 01, 2020 |
Tamaratonye5:The theories/explanations of the concept of gravity, yes, which is my point exactly. A theory which is an explanation of the dynamics of observed phenomena, can be revised, improved on or rescinded. Only when a theory is proven to be all encompassing and irrefutable, does it become established fact like the doc I showed you. Laws, like reported speech, merely report observed phenomenon, and are an objective given. [2] If you think speciation hasn’t been observed in nature, let alone reproduced in the laboratory, then I could find numerous scientific papers waiting to disabuse you of this fatuous idea.Trans-speciation, which has never been observed, is the least criterion. Not adaptation/subspeciation. 1000WaysToLive:Welcome to the table. I've gotten exhausted from engaging many on this thread because they are not very good in holding logical, constructive, progressive discourse. That guy for instance, talks like we're in a market square, in the name of presenting cogent arguments. But if you'd keep to the rules of engagement of constructive discourse, I wouldn't mind engaging. What do you say? @ the bolded is an illogical conclusion for many reasons. You have assumed those people have faith because they claim to. Since faith is immaterial, it would be dangerous to think anyone has it just cause they say so. I'll also assume you don't know the definition of faith by my book. Faith isn't blind belief or any belief at all, as usually claimed, though it creates beliefs. Faith is a substrate that can be realised by consciousness like a rock, water or matter in general. Science didn't determine these realities for us but consciousness. Science only went on to make sense and use of them. Rene Descartes said: "I think(am conscious), therefore I am". Goes without saying, whatever were conscious of is real. You are conscious of a moral meter/conscience, your emotions, desires and boredom, a will etc. and will never see any of these but you wouldn't say its blind to believe in them because they're undeniably real to your consciousness. Faith is only found in that same immaterial plane, hence illogical to demand scientific evidence of it. None of us is born with it, but the search brings about its materialisation. It can never happen without one being conscious of it. So if you've never been conscious of it, you've never had it. To begin the search, consider my Ten questions, after which when you answer all, I'll suggest a method for empirical validation of faith. Note also that contrary to your belief, empirical validation of faith isn't easy at all, else all would have had. It takes good investment. And as to how faith affects reality, that can't be overstated, but first you'll have to meet a man of genuine faith not just one of blind belief. 1000WaysToLive:Well, that's too bad for them. I don't see anyone who's presented such arguments here, do you? Judas1X:You just so love the usual method of trying to justify your unwholesome unbelief by discarding creationist arguments, don't you? ![]() Plus, my old man friend, experience has taught that your kind, if given the opportunity, always prove themselves. Just look at you messing up @law Vs theory all over the place. smh. Bet you didn't even know you almost made my point while also mixing everything up. LMAO. Tantrum, in addition to the first two theories I gave you, also research how Einstein's theory overruled Newton's, by its more encompassing reach, but in all, the law of gravity, is constant and maintained. It's why I said theories are subjective but laws are objective and constant in their domain. Plus, my old man, I'll also come demonstrate your conscience, will, emotions, desire etc. to you first before faith so you'll know you've got em. Keep on lazily transferring responsibility like a good couch potato, friend. Eternity's waiting for you. And yeah, one last thing. For your respect's sake, some caring friendly advice below: Judas1X:
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Re: What Is Faith Really? by Judas1X: 2:33pm On Aug 02, 2020 |
![]() ![]() ![]() [s] DrLiveLogic:[/s] Bwaaaaaaa haaaaaa haaaa ![]() Your quest for online recognition as a posterboy for Logic has made you stupider than an invalid. Kikikikiki ![]() If you don't know that speciation can and has been observed, not only in the fossil record, but also has been observed in real time in laboratory research, then you're not worth the sweat your quadriplegic uncle and deadbeat mother perspired to produce a diseased intellectual dwarf like you ![]() ![]() DrDeadLogic, the only thing you have achieved is troll again, and lie again. I mean if you really can’t see that sentence "empirical validation of faith" is an hilarious oxymoron then that is very sad for you, but I am extremely skeptical, even after you have claimed the most moronic creationist balderdash of all: that evolution is just a theory, and nor a law. Sadly you fail to know how misinformed those claims are. Your ten questions were desperate pieces of gibberish ![]() You came in here in your High horse acting all condescending, using sly ad hominems like "Tantrum" and now "Old man". Unfortunately, you had to reveal your antics in the presence of the most unapologetic TROLL you've ever known. I butcher insufferable pigs like you using incontrovertible facts and damning expletives at the same time. I'm now going to take you through a long torturous ride until every dead cell in your cranium lights up to my electrical stimulus ![]() ![]() ![]() I'm gobsmacked that a hollow, basket case as yourself keeps mentioning logic when it's obvious you're poorly read, ill-exposed and lethargic in theological affairs. As if that's not enough trouble for one individual, you display emotional imbalances in your responses to Tamara (one minute you're acting all cool and arrogant making sly comments, the other you're acting like a raped male, pulling out the victim card when you're taking back what you dish out). These inconsistencies have shrouded every fabric of your judgement in a blanket of sentiments and unrealistic old wives' tales. For a man as yourself, burdened with so much hormonal fluctuations, I wonder if any male genes from your father survived your epicene embodiment ![]() ![]() ![]() Kwakwakwakwakwakwaaaa!! 1 Like
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Re: What Is Faith Really? by Tamaratonye1(f): 10:10am On Aug 03, 2020 |
DrLiveLogic:Examples please? I don't know what you're talking about here DrLiveLogic:I apologize for my earlier laziness, I had thought you'd be diligent enough to do the fact-finding yourself, but since you keep repeating this blatant lie, I have decided to take the pains and do the heavy-lifting myself (credits to the due sources), so it’s finally time to break out the ordnance to demolish your bullshit. Given the post count limit enforced here, this will be a multi-part exposition. (Edit: Unfortunately, due to the Nairaland spambot removing my expose on the papers, I'll do well to shorten my rebuttal to a reasonable extent) However, before moving on to the heavy artillery, I’ll provide a brief exposition of the biological species concept, which is applicable here. The biological species concept is a population concept (as indeed are many other evolutionary concepts), and can be summarised as follows … A population comprises a species, when: [1] All members thereof (bar occasional mutants) are reproductively interfertile with other members of the population; [2] All members thereof (again, bar occasional mutants), when mating, produce offspring that satisfy [1] above. This provides the foundation for understanding speciation processes. I’ll describe a simple case thereof, while noting that more complex cases, such as ring species, also exist, which properly deserve their own complete post. The simplest case of speciation occurs when the population undergoes a split for some reason, resulting in two new populations, both sharing the same ancestors, but between which gene flow has ceased. That split can arise as a result of the emergence of a physical barrier, or a behavioural barrier, and instances of both are documented in the relevant literature (more on this later). Once that barrier exists, and gene flow between the two separated populations ceases, the populations start to diverge from each other genetically, and it’s possible for the astute to model this process by spending time writing the relevant code to simulate the process. Among the genes that exhibit divergence in this respect, are the genes belonging to the Major Histocompatibility Complex family. These genes are responsible for such processes as the immune response, tissue typing, and compatibility of egg and sperm (the fertillin genes governing this last process are part of the MHC family), and these genes have been documented as undergoing mutational change at a rapid rate compared to many other organismal genes. So, when a population is split into two, for whatever reason, the two populations begin diverging from each other, and that divergence encompasses the MHC gene family, including those all-important fertillin genes. The moment that divergence reaches the point where criterion [1] or [2] above fails to be met, a speciation event has occurred. While the fertillin genes are obvious candidates for this process, there exist other genes that are implicated in the speciation process, and have been documented in the literature as exerting the requisite effect. Having provided a simple exposition of one operating mechanism (covering some of the others would require me to write a book exceeding 1,000 pages in length), it’s now time to look at the literature, which includes the following papers I'll provide in the second part of my post.... 1 Like |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by IvoryWing(f): 11:15am On Aug 03, 2020 |
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Re: What Is Faith Really? by IvoryWing(f): 11:15am On Aug 03, 2020 |
DrLiveLogic, Here is just one of the papers I keep getting banned for. The authors were able to reproduce a wild speciation event in the laboratory, produce laboratory analogues of the new species that were interfertile with wild type members of that species, and demonstrate the existence of assortative mating preferences producing a reproductive isolation barrier between the new species and the parents once the new species existed. Furthermore, this mechanism of speciation has been erected as a probable model in other well-studied groups of organisms, including a particular favourite of mine among the vertebrates, African Cichlid fishes. Do well to go through it. I'll have to take a little break from this website before I lose this account as well. I will not return until my main is restored. -------------------- Cheers Tamaron Terminus Tantrum 1 Like |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by DrLiveLogic(m): 5:22pm On Aug 03, 2020 |
Tamaratonye1: Did you not get me, Tamaratonye5 Tantrum? Can't believe you just used up all this space to explain subspeciation (within a species without gene pool expansion, GPE) and nada on trans-speciation(like gorilla to man by GPE). Consider the difference in speciation types first. I want you to move beyond just gathering accurate info to the independent processing and determination of whats and what nots from that through logic because you have that ability, else much of what you read would inform you and deform your thinking. Here, move beyond nomenclature and understand flow and concept. If we call this process you describe, a formation of new 'species', that without GPE, can that account for mutation necessary for transforming a fish to a man, i.e. across species, from simpler to complex, which involves GPE, as in the evo rhetoric? Like I've told you already, there are no new discoveries to drive an evo rhetoric against creationism. There's nothing on evolution you're presenting here to discredit creationism that has not already been debunked in that light. Once again, and which, if only Judas1X was attentive in grammar classes, LMAO, would've gotten my point: evolution by adaptation and subspeciation is objective fact even IDers accept and can be theorised under ID. Anti-ID evolutionism as well has its theory from same, with many gaps, but neither can be directly extrapolated from present cases. It's therefore capital pointless to keep trying to present any evolution case to discard ID and opt for evolutionism. Rather ID has to be investigated exclusively while evolutionism seeks new findings to fill the gaps. More importantly, faith, our subject, can only be investigated empirically as I've said once and again. So we should quit with endless circles and if you wish begin with my ten questions especially since it's obvious your old-man, self-acclaimed 'protector' isn't bold enough to, hence resorting to prove his superiority by tryna beat you at girlie tirades. Sure he remembers, I don't respond in kind plus I consider such insecurity and diversionary for obvious inability to face the ten questions. Just to prove my point, watch him come back with another mudslinging rant, still without the nerve to face them. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to solve the puzzle, how it's condescending to Judas, that I jestingly call Tam, Tantrum and he, old man, consistent with his calling me young lad and boy. Ah, that's it! - old age. LMAO! Must also be why he's forgot that evolutionism is a theory and not a law. Smh. Judas1X:Detected - exceptional chitchatting diversionary tendency. 1 Like |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by Kobojunkie: 11:33pm On Mar 15, 2023 |
Tamaratonye5:First, contrary to what many may like to believe, Hebrews 11 vs 1 does not contain a definition of the word faith . Rather what the writer does in the context is attempts a figurative comparison of faith with the evidence/substance, the promises of God, that come as a result of ir. Faith itself is not defined in the context of that passage. For this reason, the word faith, in the context, is used in reference to efforts made by such a person as Abraham while pointing out the evidence/benefits that resulted from such effort. ![]() God Himself explained what the word faith means in Genesis 26 vs 5 when He pointed out that the reason why He made a promise to Abraham had to do with the fact that Abraham lived his life in submission and obedience of His, God's, teachings and commandments - Faith. God gave that as the one and the only reason why He made Abraham His friend. This offer we observe Jesus Christ makes with all those of His followers who will do as He says - John 15 vs 9 -14 — those who will submit to and obey His teachings and commandments in the Kingdom of God. So, there you have it. Faith refers to living one's life in continuous submission and obedience to God's commandments and teachings, and in our case, in Jesus Christ. This definition is observed as being used in the Old Testament as well as in the New Covenant by Jesus Christ Himself. ![]() |
Re: What Is Faith Really? by Kobojunkie: 4:14am On Mar 16, 2023 |
Tamaratonye5:Believing, as in mental assent? NO! Believing is in acceptance and obedience which is pretty much what faith is, yes. ![]() |
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