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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by forgiveness: 7:13pm On Jul 28, 2020
Abohboy:
Already being sold in shoprite nationwide for 1.50 dollars for standard milk and white chocolate to 4.50 for the premium dark chocolate brand.

What is the name of the product?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 7:15pm On Jul 28, 2020
gallivant:


Hey, leave the fools wallow in stupidity. Since when was pasteurization limited to boiling milk? Smh
When will you go back to your history stuff and tribalism stories? Because I know you can't grasp anything which involves science!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 7:20pm On Jul 28, 2020
forgiveness:


What is the name of the product?

Loshes chocolate, bean to bar
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 7:21pm On Jul 28, 2020
Tanzania
Ordinary folks

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by ednited(f): 7:26pm On Jul 28, 2020
rvp20182:
Well said. Nigeria and Ghana are biggest disappointment because they have gold and oil. South Africa did well when they were the Saudi Arabia of minerals but know they are . fu..cked.

Tanzania will never get anywhere as long as they are obsessed with being better than Kenya.

Ethiopia is opening up - the trucks at Moyale are building up.



Anything heard about Ethiopia in Kenya?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:31pm On Jul 28, 2020
Market forces. Runda and westland is expensive because you can build a nice house and get rent as high as 5,000 dollars a month. That annually is 60,000usd. So if you buy 1/2 an acre (or 1/4 for a few places) - you can see ROI in 10-15yrs. And you can still sell it for more than you bought.So places like Runda, Muthaiga, Nyari, Gigiri, Rossyln, Lower Kabete, Kitusuru, entire westland and all the way to Karen - rent for apartment start at 1,000 usd - and goes as high as 8,000usd per month. - those are damn expensive - and rarely allow any highrise or even town houses. Place like Karen you needed 5 acres..now 2 acres min plot size. I think Muthaiga is 1 acre minimum. Each zone and each estate has their own strict requirements...and very well oiled associations...so you cannot just wake up and build anything.

Zones where gov has allowed to build high density houses - those are damn expensive. Kilimani is about to heat up - because soon they will allow more than 20 floors building...and like westland it will be another CBD.

It all down to zoning. If Nairobi was free for all mess like West Africa - our properties would be equally useless.

Look at Parklands. The first place I stayed when I came to Nairobi about 30yrs ago was Parklands - I was staying in my uncle - the place was low rise - and the day they allowed highrise - it something else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZE1Y-e21HM&t=71s

samorobo:


What lesson should I take from ridiculously increasing the price of your land for Kenyatta and sonko's selfish games..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:41pm On Jul 28, 2020
rvp2018:
Market forces. Runda and westland is expensive because you can build a nice house and get rent as high as 5,000 dollars a month. That annually is 60,000usd. So if you buy 1/2 an acre (or 1/4 for a few places) - you can see ROI in 10-15yrs. And you can still sell it for more than you bought.So places like Runda, Muthaiga, Nyari, Gigiri, Rossyln, Lower Kabete, Kitusuru, entire westland and all the way to Karen - rent for apartment start at 1,000 usd - and goes as high as 8,000usd per month. - those are damn expensive.

Zones where gov has allowed to build high density houses - those are damn expensive. Kilimani is about to hit up - because soon they will allow more than 20 floors building...and like westland it will be another CBD.

It all down to zoning. If Nairobi was free for all mess like West Africa - our properties would be equally useless.

Look at Parklands. The first place I stayed when I came to Nairobi about 30yrs ago was Parklands - I was staying in my uncle - the places was low rise - and the day they allowed highrise - it something else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZE1Y-e21HM&t=71s


No it's all goes down to strong penchant for stupidity...lands in the rest part of the world are not crazily expensive like you see in Kenya...this has created room for ordinary owing properties...you don't have to be Jeff Bezos before you can live and own your own house..wonder no more why you made the 91% of the lives of your citizens utterly and completely miserable..living in shacks,mud houses, Eastleigh kinda vertical slum apartment and all that.....
One would think that has expensive has you've made land properties the whole of Nairobi would be too notch but no even your best is shiit which ugly style of development...you have Eastleigh vertical slum replicated in every angle of nairobi with Westland, upperhill and CBD in the middle of it...tell me what is the difference between the rest of Nairobi (outside your three cbd's and few Karen like neighbourhood ) and Mombasa...yes that's what I thought... absolutely nothing..they looks thesame..

Sorry man there is no positive lesson to learn..like non

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:47pm On Jul 28, 2020
Yes Nairobi has slumscrappers. We call it Eastland. Eastlando. It start exactly from Eastleigh all the way to Pipeline and to Embakasi. Those places are crazily high denisty. Of 4.5m Nairobi residents - about 2/3 live in Eastlando. The houses are owned by kenya middle and upper class. I have apartment myself in there..

Basically because land is very expensive..you have to build up. Eastlando have rent starting from say 30-50 dollars to high of maybe 400-500usd. They are few low rise residences...but most places allow officially upto 10 floors.

I found myself recently in Pipeline ..like 2kms square of 10 floor houses packed like sardines. The clothes lines and power lines hang precariously. I bet nearly a million people live there. Single rooms smiley. Man you can disappear there. The houses in eastland are owned by "average" black kenyan...and nearly all are rental.

Eastland or Eastlando I think covers about 1/3 of Nairobi land mass including industrial area - although houses nearly 2/3 of Nairobi.
Westland-Karen-South - covers like 1/2 of Nairobi.
Nairobi NEP and forests - covers the remainder.
Slums covers 2-5% - and are illegally built in rivers valleys.

Note the Westland-Karen-South Nairobi would be as good as most estates in any developed world.
Eastlando or Eastland is mostly better than anything you have in Nigeria.
Our slums because they are transient - are built on anything - they will be demolished anytime - there is political will.

Now we do 3m Nairobeans who call home - Nairobi metro - Nairobi bedroom - that is Kiambu, Machakos and Kajiado county. That is anything from 20kms - from Nairobi city center.

Nairobi metro is where most average kenya middle class, buy their plot, build their homes and then commute to Nairobi.

Nairobi was filled up long time ago...and what remained is damn expensive.

samorobo:


No it's all goes down to string penchant for stupidity...lands in the rest part of the world are not crazily expensive like you see in Kenya...this has created room for ordinary owing properties...you don't have to be Jeff Bezos before you can live and own your own house..wonder no more why you made the 91% of the lives of your citizens utterly and completely miserable..luck in shacks,mud houses, Eastleigh kinda vertical slum apartment and all that.....
One would think that has expensive has you've made land properties the whole of Nairobi would be too notch but no even your best is shiit which ugly style of development...you have Eastleigh vertical slum replicated in every angle of nairobi with Westland, upperhill and CBD in the middle of it...tell me what is the difference between the rest of Nairobi (outside your three cbd's and few Karen like neighbourhood ) and Mombasa...yes that's what I thought... absolutely nothing..they looks thesame..

Sorry man there is no positive lesson to learn..like non

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:53pm On Jul 28, 2020
rvp2018:
Yes Nairobi has slumscrappers. We call it Eastland. Eastlando. It start exactly from Eastleigh all the way to Pipeline and to Embakasi. Those places are crazily high denisty. Of 4.5m Nairobi residents - about 2/3 live in Eastlando. The houses are owned by kenya middle and upper class. I have apartment myself in there..

Basically because land is very expensive..you have to build up. Eastlando have rent starting from say 30-50 dollars to high of maybe 400-500usd. They are few low rise residences...but most places allow officially upto 10 floors.

Eastland or Eastlando I think covers about 1/3 of Nairobi land mass including industrial area - although houses nearly 2/3 of Nairobi
Westland-Karen-South - covers like 1/2 of Nairobi.
Nairobi NEP and forests - covers the remainder.
Slums covers 2-5% - and are illegally built in rivers valleys.



Story for the gods..your slums rappers and slumpolis environ goes beyond just embkassi, pipeline ,eastlando...it also extend to Zimmerman, Roysambu,Athi river,,huruma gosh I can go and on...the percentage of of nairobians that live a decent live I bet is less than 15% a d they are tucked in your three cbd's amongst other few karen-like neighbourhood the rest find themselves in shacks,vertical slum,actual kibera-like slums,mud houses E.t.c....gisg look at Langata with all that pricy land and properties looks a low-life ghetto area..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:58pm On Jul 28, 2020
You cannot teach me Nairobi. Yes as you say it extend from Zimmerman all the way to Pipeline - just before the Airport. And those are slumscrappers. Nothing like you have in Nigeria. I am talking high rise after high rise apartments....like nearly 150 sq kms..about 15 by 10..of high rise apartments.

And yet Eastlando is generally better than what you have in West Africa.

In terms of land size - it nothing! If you start from say Garden Estate - and go all the way to Karen - keeping a mostly north of thika highway and mombasa road - you'll see the posh areas of Nairobi are huge - covers more than 1/2 of Nairobi.

Nairobi is not comparable to many SSA cities. Joburg will see dust soon.

samorobo:


Story for the gods..your slums rappers and slumpolis environ goes beyond just embkassi, pipeline ,eastlando...it also extend to Zimmerman, Roysambu,Athi river,,huruma gosh I can go and on...the percentage of of nairobians that live a decent live I bet is less than 15% a d they are tucked in your three cbd's amongst other few karen-like neighbourhood the rest find themselves in shacks,vertical slum,actual kibera-like slums,mud houses E.t.c....gisg look at Langata with all that pricy land and properties looks a low-life ghetto area..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Saddamochieng00(m): 8:01pm On Jul 28, 2020
ednited:



Anything heard about Ethiopia in Kenya?

Are you Ethiopian?? I just saw on the news that Egypt wants to set up a military base in Somaliland. It seems those motherfvckers really wanna f*ck you up.

Will you proceed with filling the dam
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:03pm On Jul 28, 2020
ednited:



Anything heard about Ethiopia in Kenya?
How are you beautiful?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:06pm On Jul 28, 2020
Saddamochieng00:


Are you Ethiopian?? I just saw on the news that Egypt wants to set up a military base in Somaliland. It seems those motherfvckers really wanna f*ck you up.

Will you proceed with filling the dam
Ethiopia will fill up the dam whether Egyptians agree or not.And if Egypt keep on forcing the impossible, they will loose big time.More nations support Ethiopia than those behind egypt

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 8:10pm On Jul 28, 2020
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You are over shaking the table grin grin grin

Saddamochieng00:


Let me just do it...these photos always make my day grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 8:13pm On Jul 28, 2020
grin angry angry angry grin grin
Since you were born you have known only one President so keep quiet over there grin grin grin

Saddamochieng00:
Oh my ribs grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 8:14pm On Jul 28, 2020
Abohboy:
The 200 bed hospital built by Nigeria in four months, Ghana is bragging Nigeria built double the capacity in less than double the time.

What is the bed capacity of this building?

Ghana's own was done within 6 weeks.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 8:14pm On Jul 28, 2020
rvp2018:
You cannot teach me Nairobi. Yes as you say it extend from Zimmerman all the way to Pipeline - just before the Airport. And those are slumscrappers. Nothing like you have in Nigeria. I am talking high rise after high rise apartments....like nearly 150 sq kms..about 15 by 10..of high rise apartments.

And yet Eastlando is generally better than what you have in West Africa.

In terms of land size - it nothing! If you start from say Garden Estate - and go all the way to Karen - keeping a mostly north of thika highway and mombasa road - you'll see the posh areas of Nairobi are huge - covers more than 1/2 of Nairobi.

Nairobi is not comparable to many SSA cities. Joburg will see dust soon.


Eastleigh is generally better what you see in Nigeria is another of your frail ego talking..you can heckle us with your integrated slumscrapper -slumpolis zoo..
Your deplorable living condition does not start and end in Nairobi they extend all the way to the metro...you have rongai,kitsuru,kitengle,Thika town Et.c...one or two tiny-cubicle sized estates in each of those location doesn't stop it from being trashy cos about 98% of those locations don't look like this gated Estates...now that why nairobi is mostly and Integrated slumpolis...one minute you are in a serene environment the next minute you are cruising in a Zimmerman-like kinda neighbourhood

Yes I agree with you properties around Thika highway is generally better...

In succinct term overpriced land which apparently is the costliest globally hasn't done shiit to the common lives of Kenyan...even Kenyans are crying day and night in every social platform about this issue...this false pretense of everything is rosy ,fine and progressive with the benefit is just a facade the rest Kenyans mostly especially those our ones voicing out online knows better....you made their lives miserable....with this situation it is hard to make it and become successful in Nairobi,Mombasa, Kisumu and Nakuru....you live like a rat in your tiny rented apartment till you relocate to the grave for a final rest.no progress made after relocating to the city

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:21pm On Jul 28, 2020
rvp2018:
Let me be clear, no SSA country outside Kenya and South Africa have REFINED PETROLEIUM PRODUCT pipeline. I am talking a line that takes petrol, diesel, kerosene, and Jet fuel. And maybe LPG.
Give me the total length of all your pipeline network,let's compare with your big brother TZ
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Saddamochieng00(m): 8:24pm On Jul 28, 2020
vankelvin:
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Since you were born you have known only one President so keep quiet over there grin grin grin


Ghana be village grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by zhike: 8:24pm On Jul 28, 2020
The reason why west African countries are not developing is because they are not united.
They hate each other and compete with each other.
Ghana is competing with Nigeria.

Same applies to east Africa, Kenya is competing with Tanzania.

You must learn from SADC countries, they are very united. Rand currency is used in all SADC currencies.
Their economy is linked and depend on South African economy.
Most SADC countries like Botswana, Namibia, Angola, Lesotho and Swaziland are well developed than all east and west Africa.
The reason they are developed they accepted South Africa to control their economy.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Saddamochieng00(m): 8:26pm On Jul 28, 2020
Kazikazi:
Ethiopia will fill up the dam whether Egyptians agree or not.And if Egypt keep on forcing the impossible, they will loose big time.More nations support Ethiopia than those behind egypt

Which side does Tanzania lie?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by JaceBlaze: 8:28pm On Jul 28, 2020
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 8:28pm On Jul 28, 2020
zhike:
The reason why west African countries are not developing is because they are not united.
They hate each other and compete with each other.
Ghana is competing with Nigeria.

Same applies to east Africa, Kenya is competing with Tanzania.

You must learn from SADC countries, they are very united. Rand currency is used in all SADC currencies.
Their economy is linked and depend on South African economy.
Most SADC countries like Botswana, Namibia, Angola, Lesotho and Swaziland are well developed than all east and west Africa.
The reason they are developed they accepted South Africa to control their economy.

So what's your point...unite or allow SA control.our economies..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:28pm On Jul 28, 2020
Tanzania tztztz
Random pictures

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:30pm On Jul 28, 2020
Just30:
Its so easy to bust his lies grin grin grin
He talks too much and mostly it's bullshit and lies. grin
If he is half as knowledgeable as he claims, then he really knows in the deepest part of his heart that Kenya is far behind Ghana. But he has to lie to be able to sleep a bit at night. cheesy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by zhike: 8:30pm On Jul 28, 2020
samorobo:


So what's your point...unite or allow SA control.our economies..
Allow SA to invest in your country, like they did to other SADC countries.
Your countries will be successful
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 8:32pm On Jul 28, 2020
cry a river

you will still lag behind us in all things developmental
Saddamochieng00:


Ghana be village grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 8:37pm On Jul 28, 2020
Saddamochieng00:


Ghana be village grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 8:37pm On Jul 28, 2020
zhike:

Allow SA to invest in your country, like they did to other SADC countries.
Your countries will be successful

Did SA says we restrict investment!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:38pm On Jul 28, 2020
zhike:
The reason why west African countries are not developing is because they are not united.
They hate each other and compete with each other.
Ghana is competing with Nigeria.

Same applies to east Africa, Kenya is competing with Tanzania.

You must learn from SADC countries, they are very united. Rand currency is used in all SADC currencies.
Their economy is linked and depend on South African economy.
Most SADC countries like Botswana, Namibia, Angola, Lesotho and Swaziland are well developed than all east and west Africa.
The reason they are developed they accepted South Africa to control their economy.
This is not true. Competition is good. Let Ghana compete with Nigeria and cotedvoire with Cameroon, and Tanzania with Kenya. That's what can lead to development. Nigeria did quite well when we had federalism, with the regions competing with each other.

I will recommend for you Neill Ferguson's book: The Six Killer Apps of Western Power
One of those killer apps is Competition. wink

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by JaceBlaze: 8:38pm On Jul 28, 2020
The Cape Wheel

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by zhike: 8:40pm On Jul 28, 2020
samorobo:


Did SA says we restrict investment!
Nigeria is mistreating SA companies, that is why most SA companies are pulling out of Nigeria.

Nigeria must start using Rand as their currency and their economy will be better.

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