https://mobile.twitter.com/nomifooty/status/1287859725934239745
The best way to analyze a GK's shot stopping ability is to use 'Post Shot xGA'. Post Shot xGA takes into account the quality of the shot, the speed, placement and height to see if the GK has performed better or worse than an average GK.
Onana has been no.1 out of the 32 UCL GKs

Do follow the thread

NinjaMetahuman:
well those mistakes look like something kepa would make..


I have watched highlight of kepa mistakes too and it's almost similar..


Besides I don't think he faced more shots in Dutch league because ayax is very high pressing side unlike epl where he will face big big shots.




He seems more like mancity ederson.

Chelsea are now willing to meet Ajax’s €30m valuation for Andre Onana.

Obviously Oblak won't leave ATM, Henderson will continue his loan at sheff united. That leaves Pope, doubt Chelsea are even considering nick pope.

After dating your girlfriend for 37 months,then one Ifeanyi china came, engaged her in midweek and married her by the weekend.

This life no just balance. Stay strong shekpites.

Have you guys seen Swissh and eruditor yet?

Amoto94:
https://mobile.twitter.com/nomifooty/status/1287859725934239745
The best way to analyze a GK's shot stopping ability is to use 'Post Shot xGA'. Post Shot xGA takes into account the quality of the shot, the speed, placement and height to see if the GK has performed better or worse than an average GK.
Onana has been no.1 out of the 32 UCL GKs

Do follow the thread

Although I will take anything over kepa at this point but that's based on few champions league games.
Facing only few top clubs to semi final before crashing out.

Taaa.. not enough for overall assement.

I don't like being negative about players cos I like to give every player benefit of the doubt when they arrive cos anyone can improve and prove you wrong.

That onana seems like ederson at best and will only thrive in teams like mancity where he will face as few shots as possible. Where he can drop some occasional stinker that people won't notice cos the team is already winning by 4-0.
Unlike someone like oblak that all the team does is defend from morning till night.

If Chelsea can cough out the dough, they should go for oblak añd 1 defender and 1 lwb. If they can't, they should stick with onana, 2 defenders and 1 lwb.

MorataFC:
What am I seeing?
I don't think a right thinking man will compare greenwood to Pulisic.

You're right tho.

Greenwood >>>>>>>>> Pulisic

Ibime:


That was when you had relaxed mind

Griffon:


I didn't actually. Not after watching scummies trash us 4nil.

And repeated the beating in 2 quick successions, I don't think anyone would have had a relaxed mind

sylvalord:


[img]https://media1./images/528f8214935cce89847a5057e62328d6/tenor.gif[/img]

Scott Tenorman must die...back when South Park was still worth watching

NinjaMetahuman:
Although I will take anything over kepa at this point but that's based on few champions league games.
Facing only few top clubs to semi final before crashing out.

Taaa.. not enough for overall assement.

I don't like being negative about players cos I like to give every player benefit of the doubt when they arrive cos anyone can improve and prove you wrong.

That onana seems like ederson at best and will only thrive in teams like mancity where he will face as few shots as possible. Where he can drop some occasional stinker that people won't notice cos the team is already winning by 4-0.
Unlike someone like oblak that all the team does is defend from morning till night.

If Chelsea can cough out the dough, they should go for oblak añd 1 defender and 1 lwb. If they can't, they should stick with onana, 2 defenders and 1 lwb.

so if u now bring oblak to a team that attacks from morning till night how will he fare wen there's a counter against us or wen loop holes are in our defense due to our massive attack?

NinjaMetahuman:
Although I will take anything over kepa at this point but that's based on few champions league games.
Facing only few top clubs to semi final before crashing out.

Taaa.. not enough for overall assement.

I don't like being negative about players cos I like to give every player benefit of the doubt when they arrive cos anyone can improve and prove you wrong.

That onana seems like ederson at best and will only thrive in teams like mancity where he will face as few shots as possible. Where he can drop some occasional stinker that people won't notice cos the team is already winning by 4-0.
Unlike someone like oblak that all the team does is defend from morning till night.

If Chelsea can cough out the dough, they should go for oblak añd 1 defender and 1 lwb. If they can't, they should stick with onana, 2 defenders and 1 lwb.

UCL is a determinant because there you meet quality opposition most often than not and his performance in the competition is evident of his overall quality.
I'm not sold on Oblak because he remain untested in highline defensive setup being a goalkeeper in a team that plays low-block requires different skillset and the way ATM is set up has aided him. He's short for a goalkeeper and his passing is not that good, slow to come off his line. He is a good shotstopper but I'm skeptical of his suitability to our current style of play.

eph12:

Not like I support them, but there's a reason these awards are given yearly. Klopp is the best right now. If in 5 years time Zidane is, still doesn't change the fact that 5 years ago, someone else was

Two coaches that I currently cherished now are Zidane and Klopp. What Zidane is doing with Madrid is fantastic.

raumdeuter:


When Cuntay sent the budget of Mauritius on Bakayoko Morata Drinkwater Zappacosta and Berkley where did he finish in the league

Even if pep add this kind of players to Chelsea team he wouldn’t still win carling cup

Skimpledawg:
Have you guys seen Swissh and eruditor yet?

They're in an entanglement elsewhere

Amoto94:
Oga Ibime Adesina has been cleared of his 6-count charge by an investigative panel including former Ireland president.

I see am

macjireh:

so if u now bring oblak to a team that attacks from morning till night how will he fare wen there's a counter against us or wen loop holes are in our defense due to our massive attack?

I bet he will fare better than kepa and onana.

As Leicester have failed to make the UCL, seems Chilwell has now told Leicester he wants to complete Chelsea move.

Shekpeteries comparing Onana with Oblak

I pray you guys sign Andre Onana. Kepa 2.0

Amoto94:

UCL is a determinant because there you meet quality opposition most often than not and his performance in the competition is evident of his overall quality.
I'm not sold on Oblak because he remain untested in highline defensive setup being a goalkeeper in a team that plays low-block requires different skillset and the way ATM is set up has aided him. He's short for a goalkeeper and his passing is not that good, slow to come off his line. He is a good shotstopper but I'm skeptical of his suitability to our current style of play.

you just buttressed my point.

We need oblak for when we need to face a team where we can't go all out to attack. E.g when we face teams of equal play pattern and strength. Like Liverpool, mancity or in the ucl etc where we have to block low.

He won't face much stress when we have to dominate smaller team because attackers will take care of those.

Oblak might also flop, but right now, he is the best choice.

NinjaMetahuman:
you just buttressed my point.

We need oblak for when we need to face a team where we can't go all out to attack. E.g when we face teams of equal play pattern and strength. Like Liverpool, mancity or in the ucl etc where we have to block low.

He won't face much stress when we have to dominate smaller team because attackers will take care of those.

Oblak might also flop, but right now, he is the best choice.

ATM are not willing to let him go...

BlueMann:
As Leicester have failed to make the UCL, seems Chilwell has now told Leicester he wants to complete Chelsea move.

We dont want him. He should stay there. He is maddly overrated. He should just glue his ass to Leicester. He is just the English Alonso. There is no point buying a player that won't improve the team.

thorrvik55:


ATM are not willing to let him go...

ofcourse they are not


Who will let their best player go without doing shakara.


They will when they see money now.

thorrvik55:


ATM are not willing to let him go...

If we are being real, there is no way we are getting Oblak. Besides the fact that ATM won't let him go easy, his price tag is outrageous.

Chelsea will be breaking the transfer fee for goalkeeper back to back. No no no! That's bad publicity.

We need to buy a CB before even getting a goal keeper. I'm more concerned about getting a CB.

NinjaMetahuman:
ofcourse they are not


Who will let his best player go without doing shakara.


They will when they see money now.

So we should spend over £100M on a GK... Haba!
How much did we sign Cech?
That money should be rather spent on other pressing areas. £30M for Onana is a good deal. He is young and at least does not have "short arms" like Kepa.

Ajax as a team are not know for their defensive prowess as they are famous for "score me I score u football"

Bville02:


If we are being real, there is no way we are getting Oblak. Besides the fact that ATM won't let him go easy, his price tag is outrageous.

Chelsea will be breaking the transfer fee for goalkeeper back to back. No no no! That's bad publicity.

We need to buy a CB before even getting a goal keeper. I'm more concerned about getting a CB.

Yeah, any GK from smaller teams would be an upgrade on Kepa.

thorrvik55:


So we should spend over £100M on a GK... Haba!
How much did we sign Cech?

How much do players cost when we signed check?

Rid yourself of small club mentality o

That money should be rather spent on other pressing aread. £30M for Onana is a good deal. He is young at least those not have "short arms" like Kepa.

Ajax as a team are not know for their defensive prowess as they are famous for "score me I score u football"

I already addressed this.

NinjaMetahuman:

How much do players cost when we signed check?

Rid yourself of small club mentality o

I already addressed this.

How many big clubs are spending over £100M on GKs?

NinjaMetahuman:
Although I will take anything over kepa at this point but that's based on few champions league games.
Facing only few top clubs to semi final before crashing out.

Taaa.. not enough for overall assement.

I don't like being negative about players cos I like to give every player benefit of the doubt when they arrive cos anyone can improve and prove you wrong.

That onana seems like ederson at best and will only thrive in teams like mancity where he will face as few shots as possible. Where he can drop some occasional stinker that people won't notice cos the team is already winning by 4-0.
Unlike someone like oblak that all the team does is defend from morning till night.

If Chelsea can cough out the dough, they should go for oblak añd 1 defender and 1 lwb. If they can't, they should stick with onana, 2 defenders and 1 lwb.

you do know that GKs in defensive teams are better than those in attacking teams.

A GK in an attacking team will face one on one more often, especially on quick counters

macjireh:

so if u now bring oblak to a team that attacks from morning till night how will he fare wen there's a counter against us or wen loop holes are in our defense due to our massive attack?

exactly what I just pointed out to him.

Kepa was good when Laporte was there, when his team either retained possession, or the players we're compressed, leaving few spaces for shot or sat deep to defend.

Amoto94:

UCL is a determinant because there you meet quality opposition most often than not and his performance in the competition is evident of his overall quality.
I'm not sold on Oblak because he remain untested in highline defensive setup being a goalkeeper in a team that plays low-block requires different skillset and the way ATM is set up has aided him. He's short for a goalkeeper and his passing is not that good, slow to come off his line. He is a good shotstopper but I'm skeptical of his suitability to our current style of play.

wow must have been the reason Chelsea bought Kepa for 70m instead of Oblak for 80m+ that summer.

The kind of GK Lampard needs is one that suits an attacking team good in one on one and outside shot.

But Oblak isn't that short sha, but de gea is taller than him.

If Chelsea gets Onana, he is cheaper so it's worth the risk

Bville02:


If we are being real, there is no way we are getting Oblak. Besides the fact that ATM won't let him go easy, his price tag is outrageous.

Chelsea will be breaking the transfer fee for goalkeeper back to back. No no no! That's bad publicity.

We need to buy a CB before even getting a goal keeper. I'm more concerned about getting a CB.

GK is more important than CB.

The best solution will be to see if ATM are interested in a swap with Kepa plus cash. The clubs main consideration in any deal should be getting Kepa off the books and if ATM will take him, then Oblak deal makes sense. They can even structure the deal so there is no accounting loss on disposal of Kepa as they can price Kepas part of the deal at his carrying value in the books.

This is probably the best financial solution as we won't be able to shift Kepa if we buy another goalkeeper outright.

The only way we should be going for Oblak is in a swap deal, otherwise just buy another cheaper keeper and bleed out Kepas contract or loan him out indefinitely.

thorrvik55:


Yeah, any GK from smaller teams would be an upgrade on Kepa.

Nick pope or Dean, if United will let go of him.