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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 4:45am On Jul 29, 2020
komekn:


We are talking strikers not wingers.

And my point is very clear look at the pedigree of Aubmeyang over the past 4/5 seasons played in the Bundesliga.

He has NEVER been able to replicate that goal tally of 31 goals in the EPL.

Timo Werner is not better than Aubmeyang and why do you think he will come and become the numero 1 in Chelsea and dominate in the EPL.

Auba had a better supporting cast in Germany plus he was their point man, but arsenal don't even have creativity up front and for the past two seasons Auba have been playing from the left

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:56am On Jul 29, 2020
TOP NIGERIANS IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP (RANKED based on WhoScored Ratings)
Rank (Overall rank)

1. Eberechi Eze (#4)
2. Ovie Ejaria (#20)
3. Tosin Adarabioyo (#53)
4. Sammy Ameobi (#63)
5. Semi Ajayi (#96)
6. Bright Osayi Samuel (#100)
7. Dominic Iorfa (#113)
8. Josh Onomah (#158)
9. Luke Amos (#294)
10. Adedeji Oshilaja (#315)

Cc Komekn

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:21am On Jul 29, 2020
TOP TACKLERS (NIGERIANS) IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP
Rank (Overall rank) -- Total Successful Tackles
1. Dominic Iorfa (#19) -- 89
2. Josh Onomah (#57) -- 66

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:27am On Jul 29, 2020
TOP PLAYERS (NIGERIANS) BASED ON CLEARANCES IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP
Rank (Overall rank) -- Total Clearances
1. Tosin Adarabioyo (#26) -- 161
2. Dominic Iorfa (#29) -- 150
3. Semi Ajayi (#34) -- 139

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:36am On Jul 29, 2020
TOP PLAYERS (NIGERIANS) IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP BASED ON SHOTS BLOCKED
Rank (Overall rank) -- Total Blocked Shots
1. Semi Ajayi (#27) -- 26
2. Tosin Adarabioyo (#28) -- 26

*Appears to be a tie but Ajayi gets the edge with 10 passes blocked as opposed to Tosin's 9 blocked (Crosses + Passes blocked)

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:38am On Jul 29, 2020
jihday:
People like you forget that Mou did an amazing job with Porto, won the UEFA cup in 2003 then he went one better by winning the champions league the following year
Mourinho parked bus against Depotivo along the way and his players were very physical in that game. That was Porto.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:42am On Jul 29, 2020
TOP DRIBBLERS (NIGERIAN)
Rank (Overall rank) -- Total Successful Dribbles
1. Ebere Eze (#1) -- 136
2. Ovie Ejaria (#3) -- 112
3. Bright Osayi (#4) -- 106
4. Sammy Ameobi (#5) -- 99

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:48am On Jul 29, 2020
Danielnino00:

The season we almost won the league under him, we scored 101 goals and conceded 50 .

The following season,we scored 52 and conceded 48
Which kind mumu tactic be that??

Lol

Rodgers is a good coach for midtable teams ,he is not bad but calling him a genius is totally wrong and even comparing him to jose,Rodgers did well with Liverpool sha despite bottling the league ,I think Liverpool deserved better that season

Nuno of wolves might do better with big teams than Rodgers ,just saying ,I might be wrong thou

Just take a look at who Rodgers is battling top 4 with ,lampard and ole ,he should have more experience than those guys ,they will say Chelsea and man united are better than Leicester ,but it’s just a little difference if you compare the players

Some said Leicester overachieved by comming 5th but they forgot how Chelsea and united had been inconsistent almost all season

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:50am On Jul 29, 2020
TOP NIGERIAN ASSISTS
Rank (Overall Rank) -- Total Assists
1. Bright Osayi Samuel (#10) -- 8
2. Ebere Eze (#11) -- 8
3. Sammy Ameobi (#15) -- 8

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:57am On Jul 29, 2020
TOP NIGERIAN PLAYER IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP BASED ON KEY PASSES

1. Ebere Eze (#9) -- 82
2. Bright Osayi (#49) -- 43

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 5:58am On Jul 29, 2020
Edopesin:


He only came in as a substitute twice the season Leicester won the league

That's barely a season
he played for Swansea a whole season on loan
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 6:00am On Jul 29, 2020
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jihday:
Wait, people keep malice online? For people they don't and may never know their entire life?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 7:00am On Jul 29, 2020
komekn:


Which Chelsea player has recorded the highest number of goals in the EPL in the past three season grin grin its actually Tega Abraham.

Do you recall a certain Alfredo Morata that came to Chelsea highly recommended for £60 million pounds he left after failing to meet the standard after two seasons.

This is Tega Abraham first season in the EPL with Chelsea, I dont think it is registering, hate or like him, he scored 15 goals in the EPL , thats not dodo and ewah. In real terms that is outstanding. If Victor had scored 15 goals in the EPL a lot of you would be calling him the best young striker in the world. actually quite a lot of you already are. If the question was asked who is better Timo or Victor the resounding overwhelming answer would be Victor O.

Keeping that thought in mind and tell me one striker from the Bundesliga that has come to the EPL and been able to replicate his goal tally please.

Finally , look at players not able to make headway in the EPL but ripped the Bundesliga at the first time of asking, Batshuayi, Ghenabre, Sancho, Nelson, etc. It is apparent that the Bundesliga is not the same level as the EPL, so why presume a striker will jump from Bundesliga and start to rip the EPL apart, I cannot see it happening. I can actually see him struggling with Pulisic forget about Tega.

Oga sancho is yet to play in the epl before joining the bundesliga

So you go follow call gnabri flop ?

Reiss Nelson is not a regular at arsenal compared to when he was at hoffenheim

See dude when you want make this comparison at least this players should have game time in the epl then you will confirm that they flopped before you talk ,you are just speaking of guys who didn’t have game time

You are a very bad analyst
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:02am On Jul 29, 2020
komekn:


I have known Tega Onomah since he was 15, l have been at his training sessions when Ehiogu, Ramsey and Ferdinand were the U18 coaches at Tottenham.

RIP Ehiogu miss him sorely wonderful straightforward and honest guy.

I cannot count the games l watched him play youth and senior and other instances, so when l talk about him l talk from stand point of knowledge. Not just sentiment.

If you go back way back l talked about him being the best Nigerian origin midfielder in the UK.

However, he lost his way and so l stopped talking about him as a prospect. I could have talked about his knee injury and surgery, the mental pain and anguish of bias at Tottenham with Harry Winks being put ahead of him. A club he had spent the larger part of his life. There are many other situations.

But I did not. Because in football your personal circumstances are irrelevant, injury, whether you had hard start in life, abandoned by your parents, etc. Football clubs talk about the HERE and NOW. I did not talk about his past glories and there are many.

However, things have changed he has upped his game getting back to the levels expected. So much so Tottenham regret not putting a buy back clause on him.

You should know by now l talk about players in objectivity not in sentimentality. And to do that you have to have looked at a player in depth or at least to good degree. But not in isolation but in the context of comparison by expected standard.


So you should not expect me to have the same knowledge, understanding and or insight with all players. Energy is not the issue.
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I don't want the story of ur life. All I want is for u to maintain the same energy u used to rate said player with other guys.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:42am On Jul 29, 2020
benji93:
You are not wrong. I mentioned that. But when your team performs badly the null hypothesis is your stategy has been terrible. Ofcourse it would be wrong not the factor other things in our determination of howm uch blame you deserve.

I am talking perception and the cultural dynamics of management.

Management being subjective in its assessment in comparison to player assessment / measurement which is far less forgiving.

Again there are several variables, does the Chairman and or board like the Manager and is more inclined to over look failings and shortcomings.

That's my view and experience.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:51am On Jul 29, 2020
Joebie:
Josh Oghenetega Peter Onomah is named to the WhoScored Championship PlayOff XI (SF First-Leg)
The highest rated outfield player.

Meanwhile they will say one is biased.

Now compare the obsessive fixation and over hype associated with Nwakali, who has done absolutely nothing for 5 years beyond U17 football.

Then l will be accused of favoritism towards Nigerian origin players in the UK.

It's hypocritical double-standard as well as unguarded prejudiced and negative bias towards Nigerian players not considered to be "homegrown" in the context of Nigerian football.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:55am On Jul 29, 2020
Joebie:
TOP NIGERIANS IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP (RANKED based on WhoScored Ratings)
Rank (Overall rank)

1. Eberechi Eze (#4)
2. Ovie Ejaria (#20)
3. Tosin Adarabioyo (#53)
4. Sammy Ameobi (#63)
5. Semi Ajayi (#96)
6. Bright Osayi Samuel (#100)
7. Dominic Iorfa (#113)
8. Josh Onomah (#158)
9. Luke Amos (#294)
10. Adedeji Oshilaja (#315)

Cc Komekn

Where is Etebo.

If somebody asked that Sammy Ameobi should be considered, l am sure there will be outcry but there are players playing in the very dark backwaters of football Latvia, Albania that people will talk about without any opposition and or ridicule.

In reality statistics are indicative and not conclusive.

Nonetheless, we converge our knowledge of a player with what we have seen on the field of play to make a more holistic and objective appraisal of ability.

What the statistics do show, however is CONSISTENCY.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:02am On Jul 29, 2020
BascoVanVeli:



I don't want the story of ur life. All I want is for u to maintain the same energy u used to rate said player with other guys.

If you can not deduce rational from what l have presented, to explain your retort.

Then I have nothing to say, your mind is closed and your pre- conceived notions blind you to any other considerations.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:04am On Jul 29, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Oga sancho is yet to play in the epl before joining the bundesliga

So you go follow call gnabri flop ?

Reiss Nelson is not a regular at arsenal compared to when he was at hoffenheim

See dude when you want make this comparison at least this players should have game time in the epl then you will confirm that they flopped before you talk ,you are just speaking of guys who didn’t have game time

You are a very bad analyst

They did not game time in the EPL because they were not good enough.

But went to the Bundesliga and excelled immediately.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:10am On Jul 29, 2020
Joebie:
TOP DRIBBLERS (NIGERIAN)
Rank (Overall rank) -- Total Successful Dribbles
1. Ebere Eze (#1) -- 136
2. Ovie Ejaria (#3) -- 112
3. Bright Osayi (#4) -- 106
4. Sammy Ameobi (#5) -- 99

Wow !!! This shows the Nigerian DNA we like skill, showboating, Technical football, etc.

At times we forget about end product and emphasis on skills and dribbling. It's got to be focused with an end product.

But the players above l feel have got that understanding and as such have a good number of assists and key passes.

Something that players coming out of the Nigerian football system do not always appreciate.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:11am On Jul 29, 2020
komekn:


They did not game time in the EPL because they were not good enough.

But went to the Bundesliga and excelled immediately.

At least they where stars at mancity so you don’t expect sancho to break in

Solanke that’s playing in the epl is he good enough is he even better than sancho ?

Gnabry will start for almost all epl teams now ,you saw how he disgrace spurs

I rest my case
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:14am On Jul 29, 2020
benji93:
You are not wrong. I mentioned that. But when your team performs badly the null hypothesis is your stategy has been terrible. Ofcourse it would be wrong not the factor other things in our determination of howm uch blame you deserve.

Essentially irrespective of all excuses at the end of the day the BUCK STOPS WITH THE MANAGER.

If they win all the glory is taken by the Manager it's vice versa with failure too.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:18am On Jul 29, 2020
andrewbaba44:


At least they where stars at mancity so you don’t expect sancho to break in

Solanke that’s playing in the epl is he good enough is he even better than sancho ?

Gnabry will start for almost all epl teams now ,you saw how he disgrace spurs

I rest my case


I always time limit my deductions with the term AT THAT TIME.

Solanke has zero relevance to the discussion.

With regards to Gnabri l agree.

My deductions are very simple it's very difficult for young players to get opportunity to develop in the EPL. You have to be absolutely outstanding to get those opportunities.

It is much easier to get that opportunity to develop and improve in the Bundesliga comparative to the EPL.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:25am On Jul 29, 2020
Joebie:
TOP PLAYERS (NIGERIANS) BASED ON CLEARANCES IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP
Rank (Overall rank) -- Total Clearances
1. Tosin Adarabioyo (#26) -- 161
2. Dominic Iorfa (#29) -- 150
3. Semi Ajayi (#34) -- 139

These are amazing statistics.

Why because they prove what we have seen on the ground.

Tega l have described as the complete midfielder, an ability to tackle and attack which is very rare as well as control the game with his vision and passing range.

He also has stupendous stamina but also the physicality to deal with anything.

He can be a DM then he becomes a CM then he turns into AM all in the same game.

In his current form there are few players comparable in the context of Nigeria. If he gets to the EPL and he maintains this level of consistent perfomance. Then he will be in the top level.

Nigeria should cap him NOW no need to wait.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 10:36am On Jul 29, 2020
komekn:


These are amazing statistics.

Why because they prove what we have seen on the ground.

Tega l have described as the complete midfielder, an ability to tackle and attack which is very rare as well as control the game with his vision and passing range.

He also has stupendous stamina but also the physicality to deal with anything.

He can be a DM then he becomes a CM then he turns into AM all in the same game.

In his current form there are few players comparable in the context of Nigeria. If he gets to the EPL and he maintains this level of consistent perfomance. Then he will be in the top level.

Nigeria should cap him NOW no need to wait.

Go and invite him with ur own list undecided undecided
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 10:36am On Jul 29, 2020
Ok i get your point. Players and managers are definitely on different pedestals.
komekn:


I am talking perception and the cultural dynamics of management.

Management being subjective in its assessment in comparison to player assessment / measurement which is far less forgiving.

Again there are several variables, does the Chairman and or board like the Manager and is more inclined to over look failings and shortcomings.

That's my view and experience.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:22am On Jul 29, 2020
komekn:


Where is Etebo.


If somebody asked that Sammy Ameobi should be considered, l am sure there will be outcry but there are players playing in the very dark backwaters of football Latvia, Albania that people will talk about without any opposition and or ridicule.

In reality statistics are indicative and not conclusive.

Nonetheless, we converge our knowledge of a player with what we have seen on the field of play to make a more holistic and objective appraisal of ability.

What the statistics do show, however is CONSISTENCY.

Oga are you trying to say you are not aware that Etebo Left the Championship for Getafe in January this year?

Or what point are you trying to prove by that Question?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:25am On Jul 29, 2020
komekn:


If you can not deduce rational from what l have presented, to explain your retort.

Then I have nothing to say, your mind is closed and your pre- conceived notions blind you to any other considerations.

grin grin grin grin

See all these dictionary insults for nothing. I have no problem with anything u said. All I said was to maintain that same energy when you assess other players.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 11:31am On Jul 29, 2020
Joebie:
TOP PLAYERS (NIGERIANS) BASED ON CLEARANCES IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP
Rank (Overall rank) -- Total Clearances
1. Tosin Adarabioyo (#26) -- 161
2. Dominic Iorfa (#29) -- 150
3. Semi Ajayi (#34) -- 139
Eze who isn't a Nigerian player have the Nigerian flag against his name while Ajayi who is a Nigerian international have the British flag against his name, why is that?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 12:04pm On Jul 29, 2020
BascoVanVeli:


grin grin grin grin

See all these dictionary insults for nothing. I have no problem with anything u said. All I said was to maintain that same energy when you assess other players.

Bro it his choice many people here hype home breed players (awon komekn ibile) so you can't tell him to asses other players, to him he might see thoses players he assess as a prospect like I've said earlier it his choice
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 12:13pm On Jul 29, 2020
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