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Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by hammer8: 12:09pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
Igboid: U CLAIM THEY ARE NOT IGBO BUT THE ORGANISATION IS DESCRIBED WITH TWO IGBO WORDS. WE CANNOT ALL BE INSANE NOW. ![]() ![]() Igboid: 1 Like |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by kingzizzy: 12:12pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
Igboid: Dont speak for them, let them speak for themselves, via referendum. If anybody feels that people are being dragged into the concept of Biafra, let them start by addressing how we were all dragged into the concept of Nigeria without referendum I dont know how people who were made "Nigerians" without permission can be questioning IPOB who wants to make people "Biafrans" via the permission of a referendum 1 Like |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by kingzizzy: 12:13pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
Igboid: And which 90% called for the creation of Nigeria in 1914? |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by Igboid: 12:16pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
OfoIgbo: I read you post. Even your signature. Believe me, I'm a history lover too. There is hardly any colonial document on Igbo and Igboid groups and our neighbors that I have not read, including the one you posted. But all those are in the past. The future belongs to those who work in the present and not those living in the past. Eastern region, Ikwerre as proud Igbos, Ika as Igbos, Ukwuani as Igbos, were all irrefutable truths in the past. We all know that. There are hundreds of historical documentation to such. But all those are in the past. We can't continue living in the past. The present now is that Ikwerre is Bini and rapidly Igbophobic, even more Igbophobic than Yorubas some of you want to malign always or even the Ijaws you all blame for Ikwerre Igbophobic actions. This is the present we have to deal with. Can you and IPOB accept this present? Because ultimately every Igbo man MUST accept this present, because until we do, we will not be able to offer solutions that would enable us triumph over this present and ensure a brighter future for Ndiigbo. IPOB and all affiliated to it are living in the past, they are all deluded and they are all causing great harm to Ndiigbo by insisting on living in the past and not getting on with the present situation. I need you to accept the present, so that together we all can move Ndiigbo forward, can't you see that only the dynamic survives in nature? 5 Likes |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by Nobody: 12:16pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
OfoIgbo: You are totally Irredeemable. You move from here and swing to another unrealistic issue. No wonder I guys really achieve anything because you lots dream a lot. 1 Like |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by BigSarah(f): 12:18pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
IkwerrePikin: Your opinion that's what it is yours alone 2 Likes |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by Nobody: 12:19pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
kingzizzy: Did they ask you to help them agitate for referendum. Igbos are eternally useless |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by Igboid: 12:20pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
kingzizzy: How exactly does this question change the fact that majority of minorities want no referendum in their region? Are you trying to make yourself a Luggard and British who now decide for people where to belong? Can you not see how empty your argument is? Irrespective of how these people became Nigerians, they are now comfortable and happy with that tag and have not given you the mandate to give them another tag. You are playing Luggard (the same luggard you malign ) by trying to force referendum or your Biafra down their throat. They have rejected your Biafra. Show self dignity for crying out loud, move on! Are you this brain dead? What are you up-to when you keep forcing things on a people that have repeatedly rejected it? Stop making enemies for Ndiigbo. Stop clowning around already. 4 Likes |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by Blackking98(m): 12:26pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
proeast:Uchasa I was telling you this but you refused to listen ![]() Now even your Igbo cousins have confirmed it ![]() Nigeria is Igbo, hausa/fulani, Yoruba,ijaw,kanuri,ibibio/Efik, tiv then other groups follow ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by OfoIgbo: 12:29pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
MelesZenawi: I know you must be pained to realise how un-blackmailable, Igbos like me, are 2 Likes |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by Nobody: 12:34pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
OfoIgbo: No rather I am only pitying u because you are living in a world of fantasy.... Full of unrealistic dreams that can only be dismissed with a wave of hand. 1 Like |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by Ojiofor: 12:46pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
OfoIgbo: You are dragging Opobo town into this discussion did they tell you they are Igbos? Most of this guy in SS for whatever reasons are not comfortable with Igbo tag. 1 Like |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by OfoIgbo: 12:56pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
Igboid: Assume that I am a father to a son, who one day comes into my living quarters with a gun to shoot me, I will defend myself regardless of the fact that I am his father, just the same way I will defend myself if I wasn't his father. But it is also important that you base your decision-making on experience(past) and current reality(present). That being the case, I have since accepted the reality on ground, and adjusted accordingly. I am not the fly that will follow the corpse into the grave. According to me, if Ikwerre wishes to hang with our traducers, then they should expect total lack of brotherliness from us. It will even be unfair to totally blame the Ijaws or Bini people for the Ikwerre foolishness, afterall it's the Ikwerres that made themselves a willing tool in the hands of these people, for mind control |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by csamii: 1:01pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
Ikwerre are not igbos! As an igbo man, I will never see them as igbos. I don't trust them and I never will. Nnamdi Kanu is becoming a nuisance with this topic. 3 Likes |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by IkwerrePikin: 1:04pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
Igboid: My friend your biafra is nothing to write about that is why you people end up being migrants all over the world which shows you are no difference from Fulani. The only difference between fulani and igbo is the type of business they do. Claiming other peoples land. 2 Likes |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by kingzizzy: 1:05pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
Igboid: This a very simple to understand. We are all in a Nigeria that nobody agitated for, nobody consented to join and nobody was asked through plebiscite or referendum if they wanted to be part of in the first place. So anyone coming from the point of Nigeria is coming a point of inferiority. The Biafrans(IPOB), on the other hand, are coming from a position of superiority because they are agitating for Biafra, both in the SE and SS, and they want that Biafra to be created for only those who give their consent via a referendum. So as a Nigerian who is coming from a position of inferiority of an imposed country, you have no basis to argue with IPOB who are coming from the superior position of a Biafra created by democratic referendum If Nigerians feel that IPOB is dragging some areas into a referendum they never asked for, then Nigerians should agree to immediate dissolution of Nigeria that we were all dragged into with anyones consent. If Nigeria is dissolved, then we can start talking about who wants to drag who into what But to come from the position of an imposed country to question those who want a country created democratically is a non-starter. 2 Likes |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by Igboid: 1:07pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
OfoIgbo: The bold is my stance. It should have started long ago. Starting with expulsion of all parasitic Ikwerre persons in Ohanaeze Ndiigbo and all Igbo organizations outside Igboland. And then open hostility to counter their hate towards us instituted. But IPOB with their senseless Igweocha propaganda and Ohanaeze Ndiigbo who are going senile from age, are getting on the way of getting this project on track. At least you are now getting my point. The Igbo need a better leadership, Ohanaeze and IPOB are failed organizations who have bitter Igbophobes as members. They can't even identify Igbo interests let alone defending them. 2 Likes |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by IkwerrePikin: 1:08pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
proeast: You igbos mentality is so backward What do you understand by irrelevant? You leave your backward biafra to become migrants in other people’s land and you called that relevant?? You’re parasites and not relevant. We Ikwerre people are happy with our land, we prosper here, we don’t need igbo or any one to succeed. This is a general lifestyle of the Niger delta people that is why we rejected biafra and will continue to reject you migrants because we are happy living by ourselves and we do not need migrants to succeed. 3 Likes |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by Igboid: 1:13pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
IkwerrePikin: Igboland on the contrary is a beautiful place. Chinese are all over the world including remote villages in the North illegally mining earth solid minerals. Is Nigeria better than China.. Successful people are usually adventurous. Lazy people stay at home in squalor looking for lands to sell, cults to join, rents to collect, oil companies to invade and demand for settlement. I have been to interiors of Emohua, it's a poor area. Yet you all stay back home killing each other in the name of cultism. If you must be violent or commit crimes, at least monetize it. 2 Likes |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by OfoIgbo: 1:22pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
Igboid: That has always been my way of seeing things, and was not influenced by anybody. However, I am open to forgiveness, if they're to mend their ways and rejoin the greater Igbo family. But this must be an overwhelming action, rather than one or two people, making a statement, just like Amaechi and Okwukwu are doing. It has to be an overwhelming turnaround by all Ikwerres, possibly championed by their apex organisations, most especially OGBAKOR IKWERRE. |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by Igboid: 1:30pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
OfoIgbo: It will never happen. Forget it. They are playing long con game, and its about time we started doing same with them. Okwukwu claims Igbo yet his Elele town development union are members Of ogbakor Ikwerre. ![]() It's not us he should be telling he is Igbo. He should take up his case to his Umunna. If he loses, he should accept his non Igbo status. This is a very simple issue. But emotional Igbos are making it look complex than it is. 3 Likes |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by IkwerrePikin: 1:31pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
Igboid: Crime is everywhere Chinese move out because they want to explore But you igbos move because your land is nothing to write about. China have developed china before moving out to explore, how have you igbos developed your land? Red mud land beautiful? Is it Aba or Onitsha? You’re migrants 3 Likes |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by Igboid: 1:39pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
IkwerrePikin: Igboland is surely more developed than Ikwerre land. Ikwerre cannot boast of a single city. PH is a shared City between Ikwerre and Okrika. What other big Urban centre exist throughout Ikwerreland ? None! Despite our adventure nature. Igboland remain the area with biggest population density after Lagos in Nigeria. Showing you that many of us are still in Igboland because it's a land filled with opportunities too. 1 Like |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by Cosbyrich: 1:40pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
hammer8:Amaechi said Prof Dike confirmed that Igbos came as slaves and migrants to Delta and had the largest population... In the words of Dr. W B Baikie, who interviewed King William Dappa Pepple of Bonny in Fernando Po in 1854, “the King of New Calabar [Kalabari] and Pepple King of Bonny were of Ibo descent, of which also are the mass of the natives.” The influx of Igbo migrants and slaves into the Delta in the 19th century blurred the lines of earlier migrations and even though there were migrants and slaves from different places including Benis, Efik, Fulani’s etc but the Ibo migrants formed the bulk of the Delta population at that time. Prof Dike noted; that “they bequeathed their language to most of the city-states, Bonny, Okirika, Opobo and to a certain extent, influenced the language and institutions of old and new Calabar. But the population which evolved out of this mingling of peoples, was neither Benin nor Efik, Ibo nor Ibibio. They were a people apart, the product of the clashing cultures of the tribal hinterland and of the Atlantic community to both of which they belonged.” Let me place on record here that a lot of people from the areas described do not accept Igbo ancestry and that should be understood as part of what Isichei, as earlier mentioned, described as ‘constantly mutable reality’. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2018/03/igbo-politics-nigeria/amp/ |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by hammer8: 1:43pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
[s] Cosbyrich:[/s] SLAVERY HAPPENED IN WEST AFRICA TO ALL THE TRIBES AROUND THE COASTAL AREA. THAT IS HISTORY. IN THE FUTURE, WE DONT WANT SUBGROUPS CLAIMING SEPARATE ETHNICITY. THEY ARE CAUSING CONFUSION. |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by proeast(m): 1:44pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
IkwerrePikin: Lol, hardworking and prosperous can't be on the same sentence with Ikwerre. Igbos are hardworking, adventurous and prosperous, and that's why we are everywhere, making money and sending remmitances home. Sure, we are relevant and that's why Nigerians depend on Igbos in many areas of the economy, but same cannot be said of Ikwerre. You are insignificant and irrelevant in numbers and every other aspect, and to worsen it, you guys are naturally lazy. Even in P.H we run the show and own the oil servicing companies as well as big businesses while your people are only after selling lands and collecting levies from petty traders ![]() ![]() Who even wants you in Biafra to start with? Is there anything you can offer Biafra that we don't have already? The answer is a capital NO!! Lastly, it sulks to be minute minority, knowing that there is a glass ceiling you can never go beyond. Amaechi has suddenly realized that belonging to an irrelevant, inconsequential and unknown group like Ikwerre ethnic nationality will get him no where and that is why he is now claiming to be Igbo, but it's too late, he should join you guys and demand for Ikwerre presidency since we are mates ![]() ![]() 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by nsiba: 1:46pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
IPOB the most useless thing on earth 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by nsiba: 1:49pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
hammer8:. Records are there If you don't know anything like Cownu plz don't make NOISE We know who is who |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by Cosbyrich: 1:50pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
hammer8: You mean you will force them to be Igbos while history and their roots say otherwise? Prof Dike said Igbos are not indigenous to Delta. Igbos were slaves and migrants that had a large population. Are you debating what historians including Prof Dike said? This is the article... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2018/03/igbo-politics-nigeria/amp/ |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by proeast(m): 1:51pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
MelesZenawi: You've never made sense, not even once. What could be the problem, or don't you have grey matter in your skull? Tufiakwa!! |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by Igboid: 1:51pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
proeast: Naturally this is how we should react and communicate with Ikwerres. Speaking to them bluntly with no emotional attachments of non existent kinship. Good one! IPOBIANS, take note! ![]() I keep saying, I would Better call a Yoruba a brother or vote for Tinubu, than call an Ikwerre a brother or support an Ikwerre man like Wike or Amaechi. Ikwerres are opportunists. Naturally, we should be suing the Ikwerre opportunist called Ramaechi Rotimi and the likes of Okwukwu for trying to impersonate Igbos. But we lack the leadership to pull in One Direction. But we will eventually get there. 3 Likes |
Re: Ikwerre Are Not Igbos, BRACED Counters Amaechi's Claim That Ikwerres Are Igbos by OfoIgbo: 1:56pm On Jul 31, 2020 |
Igboid: Of course, I know what I am proposing is near impossible, if not impossible. But if they will ever want to be identified with Igbos again, that is what they will have to do. It is easy to destroy but more difficult to rebuild. That is the eye of the needle that they will have to go through, to be accepted again. You know how the world is. Today Igbos are the second-class citizens in Nigeria. Tomorrow they may be the first-class citizens. That is when they may start making moves to rejoin, but they will have to go through that process, otherwise they should be satisfied being a separate ethnic group. |
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