That should be directed to South Africa. South Africa should worry about Bill, Bob and Mary - they need to generate that kind of high tech brains - and keep them. Not have them relocating.

Kenya is at stage where we don't need that many university graduates. If you check - we have corrected that mistake - we instituted mass failures - and opened TIVET/Vocational colleges.We are trying to move from Lower Middle to Upper Middle Income - where basic manufacturing is required. So we are opening new 300 plus colleges..and open to enrol millions in there to learn basic stuff after high school. I think enrollment now is at 400,000.

Heck we are middle of changing education system - now in lower primary - to competence based model. Tanzania you're still doing monkey business of building stuff without any well thought out plan.

South Africa should be moving to the next stage of manufacturing. Manufacturing complicated stuff like chipsets control units; name it; Not posho mills.

Acadavah:

Spend money in education so the Kenyan graduates can sit their butts waiting for Bill, Bob and Mary from Europe and Us to establish startups.

rvp2018:
We spend money on education. That is why we beat you Tanzanian senseless always. Social investment is more important - human capital first- then infrastructure next.

Once Magufuli is done building stuff - he will realize that Tanzanian main problem is actually kids who graduate out of high school without the ability to construct a sentence in English.

South Africa has all the infrastructure many developed world can only dream about - but look the country has the worse educated populace - even by Sub Sahara standards - and now they are stuck.

Kenya has Africa best human capital - and you can see how we turn nothing into something - without any minerals or oil

Yet your graduates are running to Tanzania to find jobs,why didn't they create jobs in your own country or self employed themselves since you are nation of "opportunities" and the biggest economy in EA.

That indeed is a problem. We were nearly becoming Ghana and Nigerian. Generating white collar graduates instead of blue collar workers - whose only recourse is to relocate abroad.

But these Blue collar graduates need to at least understand English - otherwise if they are Tanzania - maybe you will ask Chinese to add translated manuals.

Our focus now is TIVET - vocational colleges and competence based education system.

Gov spend nearly 1/3 of the budget on education alone. We pay teachers well, offer nearly free education all the way to university, we have 100% enrollment...name it.

Acadavah:


Yet your graduates are running to Tanzania to find jobs,why didn't they create jobs in your own country or self employed themselves since you are nation of "opportunities" and the biggest economy in EA.

rvp2018:
That should be directed to South Africa. South Africa should worry about Bill, Bob and Mary - they need to generate that kind of high tech brains - and keep them. Not have them relocating.

Kenya is at stage where we don't need that many university graduates. If you check - we have corrected that mistake - we instituted mass failures - and opened TIVET/Vocational colleges.We are trying to move from Lower Middle to Middle Income - where basic manufacturing is required. So we are opening new 300 plus colleges..and open to enrol millions in there to learn basic stuff after high school. I think enrollment now is at 400,000.

Heck we are middle of changing education system - now in lower primary - to competence based model. Tanzania you're still doing monkey business of building stuff without any well thought out plan.

South Africa should be moving to the next stage of manufacturing. Manufacturing complicated stuff like chipsets control units; name it; Not posho mills.

That is good but it can't eliminate the main question why your Gov can't do a meaningful project without Loans. Look at Morocco a nation with less budget than you, look their projects and yours, Tell me how can you be in the level of South Africa.

We are working with chinese - chinese deliver on time and cost - and they don't want treasury delaying with money or etc - so they prefer debt financing. Tanzania you're working with jokers like Turkey, Egypt and even South Africa - you will end up with huge project delays. Chinese gave us NBO-Mombasa SGR complete with dry port in 3yrs. They work like bees. Day and Night. Weekends. No holidays. No sundays. This require money to be available always. Not for treasury to wait for taxes to be collected.

You're losing a golden opportunity that NEW China is offering. See what they had done in Ethiopia.

Yes our debt is at dangerous level now...and we need to be very careful.

Acadavah:

That is good but it can't eliminate the main question why your Gov can't do a meaningful project without Loans. Look at Morocco a nation with less budget than you, look their projects and yours, Tell me how can you be in the level of South Africa.

Saddamochieng00:


You and your silly lies. A blue flag only means that a beach is safe for the public

Diani has been ranked as the leading beach destination so many times. BTW this is the most prestigous travel award .The only other countries with beautiful beaches in Africa are Kenya, Egypt and Tanzania

"FEE's Blue Flag criteria include standards for quality, safety, environmental education and information, the provision of services and general environmental management criteria. The Blue Flag is sought for beaches, marinas, and sustainable boating tourism operators as an indication of their high environmental and quality standards."

samorobo:


They are not sleeping..the whole of Gauteng is a massive construction site...years back those areas where remote villages.

I agree with you, the whole of Gauteng is a massive construction site.

Western cape and Durban is also a construction site.

Kenyans must know their league.

samorobo:


All of this things you've posted in pictures a d we've seen it all...Kenya is no where near TZ,SA, Seychelles, Namibia in natural beauty...you are competing with Nigeria,Ethiopia and the rest...

should you debunk every kenyan thing.
All the countries you have mentioned except Tz, can't stand the magical natural beauty of kenya.
TZ are ahead because they have our kili .

rvp2018:
Is South Africa as geo-diverse as Kenya. Nope. Most of southern Africa is just Kalahari desert. Kenya lies in confluence of desert, mountains,great rift valleys,forests, lakes and oceans. The cradle of humanity for that reason.

Actually SA is more geo-diverse hence 8 Biomes vs 3 biomes

Also cradle of human kind is in SA

zhike:


I agree with you, the whole of Gauteng is a massive construction site.

Western cape and Durban is also a construction site.

Kenyans must know their league.

True.

jln115:


"FEE's Blue Flag criteria include standards for quality, safety, environmental education and information, the provision of services and general environmental management criteria. The Blue Flag is sought for beaches, marinas, and sustainable boating tourism operators as an indication of their high environmental and quality standards."

Now show me how many Travel awards your blue flag beaches have won over the years.

Saddamochieng00:


Now show me how many Travel awards your blue flag beaches have won over the years.

1 beach mate..... 1 beach

Maybe but not naturally beautiful. For me, it really btw Kenya and Tanzania. Kenya once it's developed it's insecure north - would beat Tanzania.

jln115:
Actually SA is more geo-diverse hence 8 Biomes vs 3 biomes

Also cradle of human kind is in SA

rvp2018:
Your biased opinion count for nothing.

It's not biased and it counts in everything...you must be stupid to think Kenya can compete with TZ or SA in natural beauty..have you lost your sight..?

rvp2018:
Maybe but not naturally beautiful.

which is more beautiful is just our opinions but the fact remains SA is more biodiverse and geo-diverse than Kenya

rvp2018:
We are working with chinese - chinese deliver on time and cost - and they don't want treasury delaying with money or etc - so they prefer debt financing. Tanzania you're working with jokers like Turkey, Egypt and even South Africa - you will end up with huge project delays. Chinese gave us NBO-Mombasa SGR complete with dry port in 3yrs. They work like bees. Day and Night. Weekends. No holidays. No sundays. This require money to be available always. Not for treasury to wait for taxes to be collected.

You're losing a golden opportunity that NEW China is offering. See what they had done in Ethiopia.

Yes our debt is at dangerous level now...and we need to be very careful.

The delays is due to your money/budget.

Saddamochieng00:


Now show me how many Travel awards your blue flag beaches have won over the years.

South Africa is an advanced country endowed with natural beauty.
As much as we're trying to boost ourselves, atleast doing so with Nigerians and Tz makes more sense. we can't stand S. A,. I don't see why we should argue with them.

jln115:

1 beach mate..... 1 beach

Watamu was also ranked as the second best beach destination by the CNN traveller.

You also do realise that we have a smaller shoreline than yours. Even with your big shoreline only one or two of your beaches have been voted as leading beach destinations.

I am not alone. Show me south africa here. In Africa I would rank either Kenya, Tanzania and South Africa in that order. Ethiopia would be there if they were not landlocked.

https://www.travelandleisure.com/trip-ideas/nature-travel/most-naturally-beautiful-countries-in-the-world

jln115:
which is more beautiful is just our opinions but the fact remains SA is more biodiverse and geo-diverse than Kenya

What has natural beauty got to do with human development. You're just a low self esteemed kid.
In terms of natural beauty - Kenya and Tanzania - are the most beautiful in Africa.
That is why tourist visit despite not being developed like South Africa.

Shma:
South Africa is an advanced country endowed with natural beauty.
As much as we're trying to boost ourselves, atleast doing so with Nigerians and Tz makes more sense. we can't stand S. A,. I don't see why we should argue with them.

rvp2018:
Maybe but not naturally beautiful. For me, it really btw Kenya and Tanzania. Kenya once it's developed it's insecure north - would beat Tanzania.

for natural beauty I don't even think Tanzania can stand kenya, mt.kili is a Gothic score for them, otherwise kenya is on top.

Shma:
South Africa is an advanced country endowed with natural beauty.
As much as we're trying to boost ourselves, atleast doing so with Nigerians and Tz makes more sense. we can't stand S. A,. I don't see why we should argue with them.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.... Kenya might be more beautiful to rvp2018 than to someone else... However I'm not arguing which is more beautiful but rather that SA is more biodiverse/geo-diverse

rvp2018:
What has natural beauty got to do with human development. You're just a low self esteemed kid.

I'm done.

Shma:
South Africa is an advanced country endowed with natural beauty.
As much as we're trying to boost ourselves, atleast doing so with Nigerians and Tz makes more sense. we can't stand S. A,. I don't see why we should argue with them.

They should go look for advanced countries thread . A BRICS thread will do them good.

They have nearly everything we have except for deserts. Zanzibar is beautiful. They are also twice large than Kenya. The problem of course is their size so it hard to see everything. Kenya is therefore great because it's relative small and you get nearly all these diversity in very short commute.

Shma:
for natural beauty I don't even think Tanzania can stand kenya, mt.kili is a Gothic score for them, otherwise kenya is on top.

rvp2018:
I am not alone. Show me south africa here. In Africa I would rank either Kenya, Tanzania and South Africa in that order. Ethiopia would be there if they were not landlocked.

https://www.travelandleisure.com/trip-ideas/nature-travel/most-naturally-beautiful-countries-in-the-world

Do you want me to post the countless articles that list SA instead of Kenya?

Geo diverse Nope. Biodiverse yes. Bring evidence of geo-diversity. Don't quote anything with BIO.

jln115:
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.... Kenya might be more beautiful to rvp2018 than to someone else... However I'm not arguing which is more beautiful but rather that SA is more biodiverse/geo-diverse

Kenya has Watamu and Diani at the very top of Africa...and that many others just about there. South Africa don't feature. You don't have a beach my friend.

jln115:

1 beach mate..... 1 beach

Saddamochieng00:


Watamu was also ranked as the second best beach destination by the CNN traveller.

You also do realise that we have a smaller shoreline than yours. Even with your big shoreline only one or two of your beaches have been voted as leading beach destinations.

Top 30 beaches in the world

https://www.cntraveller.com/gallery/best-beaches-in-the-world

Funny I don't see Kenya.... But I do see SA

As long as it's credible and is talking about natural beauty of SA. South Africa receive more tourism because of other stuff - but people really interested in natural beauty - the choice is btw Kenya and Tanzania. Kenya is you have short time. Tanzania if you have all the time.

jln115:

Do you want me to post the countless articles that list SA instead of Kenya?

Five of the country's beaches — Diani, Mombasa, Watamu, Chale Island and Shela — featured in the Top 50 African Beaches Category by Flightnetwork.com, an online travel publication.

Africa best beaches - Watamu is 2nd after-Sharm el-Sheikh, Egypt
https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/africa-best-beaches/index.html

jln115:

Top 30 beaches in the world

https://www.cntraveller.com/gallery/best-beaches-in-the-world

Funny I don't see Kenya.... But I do see SA

jln115:

Top 30 beaches in the world

https://www.cntraveller.com/gallery/best-beaches-in-the-world

Funny I don't see Kenya.... But I do see SA

Take a look at the top three. I don't understand why they ranked Watamu above Diani.

The World Travel Awards is the most prestigious though.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.cnn.com/travel/amp/africa-best-beaches/index.html&ved=2ahUKEwjtmL26-PfqAhURxoUKHbmHBtAQFjABegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3jfUa-GjkKemSdOtvu5xfW&ampcf=1