raumdeuter:


Do a search for "duduspace net spend" on nairaland and compare ibime net spend posts to it

This was what chic2pimp had to say about it in one of those threads

https://www.nairaland.com/400313/arsenal-fan-thread-gunners-only/87#5918684

I wonder if net spend of Liverpool will stop VVD from running away from striker.

Expert17:


Cc Ibime

And Fergie won with the Giroud and Llorente of his time, unlike Pep who would claim they are not fit for purpose and needs to spend £67m on Cancelo before we can see results

CapitalCee:


Messi was definitely destined to be absolute world generational with or without pep. Pep and barca just landed a gold mine.

Yes output increased, but Lius Aragones used Xavi and iniesta in particular to obliterate Europe, just before pep became manager, infact those 2 were so dominant that a commentator during a la liga game the following season said "with this 2 Spain are the European champions". Xavi was the Euro 2008 undisputed MVP. So by the time Pep took over his team was effectively the best team on the planet.
Mind you I am not undermining his achievements. He did well by bringing back Pique, promoting Pedro and Busquets, getting rid of proper deadwoods masquerading as world class players like Ronaldinho, Zambrotta, Thuram, Deco etc, while keeping useful ones like Etoo, that was very exceptional for a young manager like him at that time.

Xavi before Pep was going to be shipped out

Can we also say Ronaldo Rooney was already destined for greatness

Expert17:


Porn don suck your brain komot...

I was telling you that spending 17M is too much for an injury prone player........

Now you turn it to I said Owen was a marquee signing.

No wonder you can't come up with a simple Chelsea line up without atleast 5- 10 people correcting you

Dude your stupidity is premium. Just don't get excited seeing my mention. I only wanted to remind you that you have the intelligence of an unborn foetus.

Scram you lesion brianed bastard!

popizaino:





I wonder if net spend of Liverpool will stop VVD from running away from striker.

Aparisports member, when will your subscription expire?

hensben:
I nor hate pep, I Dey always talk for here say I like his pattern of play but I can not rate him ahead of mou, ancelotti and Klopp when it comes to achievement, citing the club and resources they achieved with.

go and rest . Nobi only resources.

Mourunho spent at Chelsea and won..

Klopp spent at Liverpool and won

To not spend and expect success is madness. That is why Chelsea is spending now

Ibime:


And Fergie with the Giroud and Llorente of his time, unlike Pep who would claim they are not fit for purpose and needs to spend £67m on Cancelo before we can see results

Bojan

Ibrahim Afellay

Griffon:


Dude your stupidity is premium. Just don't get excited seeing my mention. I only wanted to remind you that you have the intelligence of an unborn foetus.

Scram you lesion brianed bastard!

K

lordfalcao:
go and rest . Nobi only resources.

Mourunho spent at Chelsea and won..

Klopp spent at Liverpool and won

To not spend and expect success is madness. That is why Chelsea is spending now

Actually spent also

Morata Drinkwater Jorginho Kepa dem cost money only that they are not bringing results

But when its Pep, he has to win. Win all the time, win big, win without conceding, win without spending, win by playing a style that the poster likes or else he is a fraud

raumdeuter:


Actually spent also

Morata Drinkwater Jorginho Kepa dem cost money only that they are not bringing results

Conte spent this summer with world class pensioners....

If it's easy to spend and win trophies, club like Everton should be finishing above Arsenal and Wolves.

CapitalCee:


Have you ever seen me deride iniesta before? I don't do that kind of rubbish argument. Iniesta in his prime is the best in whatever he does at that time. No argument. Proper over world class

Not you bro, chelsea fans

They will tell you that Mourinho is point and kill and destroys players confidence.. when pep matter enters then mou is a great underdog manager...
Dem go tell you Iniesta has poverty stats so is not world class... but bring up hazard now then you start hearing things like "there is more to an attacker's football than goals and assists" or that hazard is a midfielder... they will shade Neymar and Dembele for getting injured at their respective clubs but use the same injury as an excuse for hazard

Some shekpites will tell you Messi is nothing without Iniesta and Xavi then later tell you those two are carry along depending on the agenda on ground
Today sir alex is God,tomorrow he is a referee bribing ,tactically inept, and transfer record breaking manager.

Today David Beckham is a one season wonder, tomorrow he is ......

AGENDA

raumdeuter:


Chelsea spent stupidly finished 5th
That's even worse

won the FA cup, then won the Europa league and finished 3rd. BOOM

So tell me what happened to £600m to City's first XI, apart from Ederson, Walker, Laporte, B.Silvia and Mahrez who else makes first XI, oh Gundagon.

So if Chelsea had hired pep when he said we needed 10new players. What happened in Barca, Man city (Bayern I think) where good players we're throw away for cheap would have occured, eve worse seeing as we finished 10th to Willian for 18m, Pedro for 10m, Courtious one loan, Cahill released, Fabregas, Matic, Oscar, (mehn forget the 60m we collected he might have been sold for 15m), Costa 20m to an italian club, the rest would be release to some third world club etc. So only Hazard and Cesar would survive. How much would he have spent, seeing the number that stayed in City and yet £600m spent no UCL and just a single EPL title more

raumdeuter:


Xavi before Pep was going to be shipped out

Can we also say Ronaldo Rooney was already destined for greatness

the shipping was it after euros or before euros?

BlueAngel444:
won the FA cup, then won the Europa league and finished 3rd. BOOM

So tell me what happened to £600m to City's first XI, apart from Ederson, Walker, Laporte, B.Silvia and Mahrez who else makes first XI, oh Gundagon.

So if Chelsea had hired pep when he said we needed 10new players. What happened in Barca, Man city (Bayern I think) where good players we're throw away for cheap would have occured, eve worse seeing as we finished 10th to Willian for 18m, Pedro for 10m, Courtious one loan, Cahill released, Fabregas, Matic, Oscar, (mehn forget the 60m we collected he might have been sold for 15m), Costa 20m to an italian club, the rest would be release to some third world club etc. So only Hazard and Cesar would survive. How much would he have spent, seeing the number that stayed in City and yet £600m spent no UCL and just a single EPL title more

This season

Ederson Laporte Walker Mendy Rodri Mahrez Gundogan Bernardo were all Pep buys

raumdeuter:


Ferguson time was between 1986 to 2013. So you mean EPL was that lowly rated in that time?

EPL was Banned for 5 year due to Heysel disaster, and Man United are not even dominant in England until 1993. as the team that Fergie met is hubris, EPL became competitive around 1999 when fergie won UCL, go and read why he was Knighted by the queen. "Due to his development of British football" Seria A, La liga and Bundesliga were far ahead of EPL, Even teams like Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord were effectively on the same level with Man united, Arsenal and Leeds United who were the best at that time. Before 1999, moreover, Fergie dont use his Best team in Champions league as he prioritizes the league. Teams like Galatasaary, Fenebache, Panaithinakos and Dynamo Kiev usually give English teams problem, not to talk of the established elites like Madrid, Bayern, Juve, AcMilan, Lazio, Barca and Inter.
EPL effectively took over when Abramovich came to Chelsea coinciding with the Mourinho, the league very competitive.

BlueAngel444:
won the FA cup, then won the Europa league and finished 3rd. BOOM

So tell me what happened to £600m to City's first XI, apart from Ederson, Walker, Laporte, B.Silvia and Mahrez who else makes first XI, oh Gundagon.

So if Chelsea had hired pep when he said we needed 10new players. What happened in Barca, Man city (Bayern I think) where good players we're throw away for cheap would have occured, eve worse seeing as we finished 10th to Willian for 18m, Pedro for 10m, Courtious one loan, Cahill released, Fabregas, Matic, Oscar, (mehn forget the 60m we collected he might have been sold for 15m), Costa 20m to an italian club, the rest would be release to some third world club etc. So only Hazard and Cesar would survive. How much would he have spent, seeing the number that stayed in City and yet £600m spent no UCL and just a single EPL title more

Leave story for Wale Adenuga

Tell us your NET SPEND and don't forget to include money wasted on Managers sacking...

raumdeuter:


That link i posted above the comments from chic2pimp in 2010


" guess this is what happens when your team has not won a meaningful Trophy in quite a while now.
Or when did teams start basing their sucess on Net spend and what not"

To add to this none of us here became a staunch supporter of our present club from net spend .it was solely based on winning trophies.I grew up watching the older generations boasting about Madrid and ac Milan trophies not money made from selling players .if it were about the later then westham fans in nigeria will competing with Chelsea fans in numbers.

Taguchi:

Not you bro, chelsea fans

They will tell you that Mourinho is point and kill and destroys players confidence.. when pep matter enters then mou is a great underdog manager...
Dem go tell you Iniesta has poverty stats so is not world class... but bring up hazard now then you start hearing things like "there is more to an attacker's football than goals and assists" or that hazard is a midfielder... they will shade Neymar and Dembele for getting injured at their respective clubs but use the same injury as an excuse for hazard

Some shekpites will tell you Messi is nothing without Iniesta and Xavi then later tell you those two are carry along depending on the agenda on ground
Today sir alex is God,tomorrow he is a referee bribing ,tactically inept, and transfer record breaking manager.

Today David Beckham is a one season wonder, tomorrow he is ......

AGENDA

It is a phucking disgrace.

Expert17:


Leave story for Wale Adenuga

Tell us your NET SPEND and don't forget to include money wasted on Managers sacking...

oh please scummyland sacks managers, barca does, Madrid, Bayern even EPL mid table and relegation threatened teams sack managers.

airmark:


Aparisports member, when will your subscription expire?

Leave me

I'm a football enthusiast.

raumdeuter:


Ferguson time was between 1986 to 2013. So you mean EPL was that lowly rated in that time?

He meant before EPL became a top rated league from around 2007. And from 2007 upwards, Ferguson did very well in the UCL. Between 2008 and 2012, SAF made 3 UCL finals. He could have won the three of them , he was just unlucky that he met a Barcelona team on steroids in two of those finals. But pre 2007, the best leagues then was Italian league followed by La liga

afrodoc:


It is a phucking disgrace.

Walahi doc

raumdeuter:


Xavi before Pep was going to be shipped out

Can we also say Ronaldo Rooney was already destined for greatness

No sane manager will offload Xavi after Euro 2008, yes I agree he wasnt that exceptional before then. He was just a squad player.

Ronaldo and Rooney were already beasting not only EPL but Europe around that time, so it was clear they will be great and they actually became just that. Let's not argue this Messi was already destined to be generational before pep took over

CapitalCee:


EPL was Banned for 5 year due to Heysel disaster, and Man United are not even dominant in England until 1993. as the team that Fergie met is hubris, EPL became competitive around 1999 when fergie won UCL, go and read why he was Knighted by the queen. "Due to his development of British football" Seria A, La liga and Bundesliga were far ahead of EPL, Even teams like Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord were effectively on the same level with Man united, Arsenal and Leeds United who were the best at that time. Before 1999, moreover, Fergie dont use his Best team in Champions league as he prioritizes the league. Teams like Galatasaary, Fenebache, Panaithinakos and Dynamo Kiev usually give English teams problem, not to talk of the established elites like Madrid, Bayern, Juve, AcMilan, Lazio, Barca and Inter.
EPL effectively took over when Abramovich came to Chelsea coinciding with the Mourinho, the league very competitive.

Most of these are not true.

Show me a competitive CL game that Ferguson did not use his best eleven

Man utd was spending top dollars on players even before Mourinho. Stam Rio Rooney Veron were all top dollar transfers on a global scale made by Ferguson before Mourinho

Ajax Porto etc were all strong pre Bosman when there was a limit on foreign players and you cannot take their players at will after that they all started going down cos they lose players

raumdeuter:


Actually spent also

Morata Drinkwater Jorginho Kepa dem cost money only that they are not bringing results

But when its Pep, he has to win. Win all the time, win big, win without conceding, win without spending, win by playing a style that the poster likes or else he is a fraud

whoever expects a coach not to spend is telling a self lie and should not be taken serious on this space..

timay:


He meant before EPL became a top rated league from around 2007. And from 2007 upwards, Ferguson did very well in the UCL. Between 2008 and 2012, SAF made 3 UCL finals. He could have won the three of them , he was just unlucky that he met a Barcelona team on steroids in two of those finals. But pre 2007, the best leagues then was Italian league followed by La liga

EPL has been a top rated league way before 2007

Taguchi:


The same Mourinho that coached top clubs and only won after spending mad money.. the same Mourinho that is the poster boy for cheque book managers.. the same guy that holds the title of highest spending manager since the beginning even though he started spending when 30m was big money.. the same guy that was sacked at Chelsea, Madrid and man u and currently struggling to make Europa

...Abi Na Carlo that also spent and won at top clubs.. that was sacked by Chelsea, Madrid and Bayern and currently languishing in an average club...

Funnily enough these two are sitted with pep as the highest spending manager, with mou at the zenith.but it is only fraudiola that is still at a top club, the same fraudiola has never experienced sacked.. the same fraudiola that has the most titles of the trio and has coached in significantly less time..
.. talk say you no like am nobody go flog.

Shun hypocrisy.

Pep always go to formidable teams and still spend, while mou go to struggling teams, he spend to rebuild and make the team formidable again so sacking is expected in this type of situation. Pep always run when there is little hit from the club board so as to avoid sacking.

raumdeuter:


I dont need to stalk when I can recall your line of argument on these issues and now amazed at how you easily do 180 degrees on almost everything.

I have asked you. If your position on football changes that much we don't even know what to expect from you in the next few months. Will those you are hailing today become frauds tomorrow and the frauds of today become your legends in a few month

What is childish is to change viewpoints like you change clothes. Anyway you have the right to it.

Your comments I quoted showed you claiming players will want to play for Arsenal over Chelsea because of their style of play and the happenings after that did not supprt your claim

When people make claims and miss, its common to call them out for it

Has my comment to you or posts to you gone past football talks? If there is any other thing beyond football talks you are free to spill it

No, the point here is you are a stalker, always childishly going back to 2007 to quote posts.

I said players will want to play attacking football more than for Mourinho (with wages being equal). I may be wrong or I may be right but I don't see the relevance of that conversation to today's conversation except that you have an infatuation with stalking. Infact, I have no problem with being wrong 10 or 13 years ago because they did not born me as God to know everything from birth.

Do you think I care what you may have said over a decade ago that I could use to drag you today? Are you not a human being whose opinions are constantly formed by experience, or should I expect you to be the same person from teenage years till 50? Worse still, you will constantly stalk me and take one argument from a different context eons ago, and try to apply it to another argument. And guess what, even if I was wrong without you quoting selectively, IDGAF cos I get new information every passing year and have the right to update my views.

What I do give a fück about is someone obsessed with me to be digging me constantly for shït over a decade ago, and if that's what it is, na wetin I go address be that, not no football talk.

Expert17:


Conte spent this summer with world class pensioners....

If it's easy to spend and win trophies, club like Everton should be finishing above Arsenal and Wolves.

the local champion has packed players this summer again like rice and beans.. he is finishing below the smoker..

Some told us he was going to dominate seria A

popizaino:



To add to this none of us here became a staunch supporter of our present club from net spend .it was solely based on winning trophies.I grew up watching the older generations boasting about Madrid and ac Milan trophies not money made from selling players .if it were about the later then westham fans in nigeria will competing with Chelsea fans in numbers.

100%

This one different from others oo.

raumdeuter:


This season

Ederson Laporte Walker Mendy Rodri Mahrez Gundogan Bernardo were all Pep buys

you give him credit for taking a top three team in EPL to top three and 2 EPL titles, not the first time a City manager won EPL with them with far less budget, ok a Bugatti is different from a Camry yet it geta you there.

But why scorn conte for taking Inter to top three a position they haven't been in for some time and that their were even in the discussion for a Series A upset shows the upturn of fortunes. Or doesn't he at least get the same excuse pep got for new players trying to settle in. Whereas Conte lost intern's best scorer icardi and brought to light Martinez. Yet Conte gets no credit from u. Bro you're definitely full of shit. If not, be honest.

raumdeuter:


EPL has been a top rated league way before 2007

This is not true. Except may be you are talking about the 70s during the Liverpool era in Europe.

But 90s to around 2004/05, EPL were toothless dogs in Europe. Things began changing in 2004/5 for EPL teams in Europe.

Before these periods, the best leagues then was the Italian league followed by La liga, the teams from those two leagues were the ones bossing Europe then.